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Guess who died in 2013

Benjamin Grimm Jan 01 2013 06:26 AM

Cricket commentator Christopher Martin-Jenkins, 67.

The Second Spitter Jan 01 2013 04:35 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Cricket commentator Christopher Martin-Jenkins, 67. His most famous commentary: [youtube]PvGOBS99LNM[/youtube] It must be cricket commentator season or something cos Tony Greig, 66, died two days before CMJ.

G-Fafif Jan 02 2013 01:22 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Patti Page, 85. Doggies in windows everywhere paws for a moment of silence. [youtube]2AkLE4X-bbU[/youtube]

Swan Swan H Jan 02 2013 01:24 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Doggies in windows everywhere paws for a moment of silence. Arf.

Edgy MD Jan 02 2013 01:25 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

The Singin' Rage, forever crooning up a storm on WHLI.

G-Fafif Jan 02 2013 01:31 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

[youtube:33j3l8sj]HT2ao0rcxoA[/youtube:33j3l8sj] "Beautiful music" doesn't get all that much more beautiful.

Swan Swan H Jan 02 2013 01:50 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Even the cool kids love Patti Page. [youtube:bcc5ugxq]FaTmqPjPqvM[/youtube:bcc5ugxq] [youtube:bcc5ugxq]0L7FuA8Rry8[/youtube:bcc5ugxq]

G-Fafif Jan 05 2013 09:36 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Died in 2012, reported in 2013: Bob Jones, 70, WNEW-AM DJ who hosted the Milkman's Matinee and the Make Believe Ballroom, charming relics of the pre-rock era that I caught more of than I chose between my father and my sister growing up. [youtube]jQgqkGKPDuc[/youtube]

MFS62 Jan 06 2013 08:59 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

He must taken over Make Believe Ballroom from William B. Williams, the host when I listened to the program many years ago. RIP. Later

G-Fafif Jan 08 2013 07:47 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

The great -- great -- writer Richard Ben Cramer, 62, reportedly from lung cancer. What It Takes, his 1992 psychobiograpic hexagon of those who ran for president in 1988 is breathtaking in its scope and depth. 2000's Joe DiMaggio: The Hero's Life explains why your father and your grandfather revered Joltin' Joe (and why you shouldn't feel so bad about not doing so yourself). Retrospective on the chilly reception for and enduring influence of What It Takes here, by Ben Smith. And, oh by the way, that epic volume begins its story at the Astrodome, October 8, 1986, Game One of the NLCS. Tonight, George Bush will shine for the nation as a whole -- ABC, coast to coast, and it's perfect: the Astros against the Mets, Scott v. Gooden, the K kings, the best against the best, the showdown America's been waiting for, and to cut the ribbon, to Let the Games Begin...George Bush. Spectacular! Reagan's guys couldn't have done better. It's Houston, Bush's hometown. They love him. Guaranteed standing O. Meanwhile, ABC will have to mention he was captain of the Yale team, the College World Series -- maybe show the picture of him meeting Babe Ruth. You couldn't buy better airtime. Just wave to the crowd, throw the ball. A no-brainer. There he'll be, his trim form bisecting every TV screen in the blessed Western Hemisphere, for a few telegenic moments, the brightest star in this grand tableau: the red carpet on the Astroturf; the electronic light-board shooting patterns of stars and smoke from a bull's nose, like it does when an Astro hits a home run; the Diamond Vision in riveting close-up, his image to the tenth power for the fans in the cheap seats; and then the languorous walk to the mound, the wave to the grandstand, the cheers of the throng, the windup...that gorgeous one-minute nexus with the national anthem, the national pastime, the national past, and better still...with the honest manly combat of the diamond, a thousand freeze-frames, a million wordsworth, of George Bush at play in the world of spikes and dirt, all scalded into the beery brainpans of fifty million prime-time fans...mostly men. God knows, he needs help with men. So George Bush is coming to the Astrodome. Disaster in the making.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 08 2013 08:47 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

What it Takes is a fantastic book.

G-Fafif Jan 08 2013 09:21 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Remembering this story from the height of Ripkenmania in 1995. Captured Cal, Camden Yards and Baltimore in one memorable swoop. It's a stinkin'-hot night at the ballpark—near 100°, the air is code red—and the Orioles are playing the cellar-dwelling Blue Jays. Still, it's got to be a big night: It's Coca-Cola/Burger King Cal Ripken Fotoball Night. That is, it's the sort of ersatz event that is a staple of baseball now that payrolls are fat, attendance is slim, and the game—well, no one trusts the game to be enough. These new Orioles yield to no club in the promotional pennant race. There's Floppy Hat Night, Squeeze Bottle Night, Cooler Bag Night. There's an item called the NationsBank Orioles Batting Helmet Bank, and there's the highly prized Mid-Atlantic Milk Marketing Cal Ripken Growth Poster. They are all a stylistic match for the graphics on the scoreboard that tell you when to clap or the shlub whose bodily fluids are draining into his fake-fur Bird Suit while he dances on the dugouts for reasons known only to him. Still, as a celebration of the Hardest-Workin' Man in Baseball, the hero of this Old-Fashioned Hardworkin' Town, the Cal Ripken Fotoball is my personal favorite, perfect in every detail. There is the F in the name—gives it klass, and it's korrect, because there's no photo on the ball. There's a line drawing of Cal's face, with a signature across the neck. The signature is of the artist who made this genuine-original line drawing from a genuine-official photo of Cal. And then there's the plastic wrapper—says it's all Made in China. I like that in a baseball. And one key word: NONPLAYABLE. In other words, don't throw or hit it, or this fotobooger will come apart. Hours before game time, I wanted to ask Cal about his Fotoball. I wanted to ask how it feels to be the icon for baseball and Baltimore. But he's hard to catch in the locker room. He has his locker way off in the corner, where his dad used to dress as a coach. The official-and-genuine Oriole explanation is that the corner affords him room for two lockers—one extra to pile up all the stuff fans send him. But it's also unofficially helpful that there's an exit door in that corner, and anyway it makes Cal plain hard to get to. (One day early in the season I was blocked entirely by the richly misshapen and tattooed flesh of Sid Fernandez.) And if you're lucky enough to catch Cal, you're still not home free: Even local writers—guys Cal knows—find that out. "Angle your story," he might say, without looking at the writer, his eyes still on the socks in his hand. "Yeah...but what's the angle?" So the writer must explain what he means to write. "Cal, it's just about all the second basemen you've had to play with—you know, 30 different guys to get used to." "No," Cal says to his socks. "Doesn't do me any good to answer that." See, these days, just a handful of games from Lou Gehrig's record of 2,130 consecutive starts, he's playing writers like he always plays defense, on the balls of his feet, cutting down the angles: How is this gonna come at me? Where should I play it? Positioning (forethought, control) has always been his game. And streak or no streak, Cal still has to play the game his way—that is, correctly: He's got to click with his second baseman.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 08 2013 09:41 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

My famous Wolf Pack story stole from Cramer's first graf in that Ripken piece, the part where naming the sponsor along with the giveaway makes the giveaway look that much more absurd.

G-Fafif Jan 08 2013 10:02 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Fotoball 1995 ------> Collector's Cup 2010, at least subconsciously.

G-Fafif Jan 08 2013 10:25 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Terrific appreciation from Dick Polman... Cramer broke all the political coverage rules because he was never beholden to them in the first place. He had never been a journalistic grunt on the campaign trail. He had previously worked as a foreign correspondent for The Philadelphia Inquirer (back when the paper had money for such things), and as a general-assignment magazine freelancer with an abiding interest in sports figures. Indeed, shortly before embarking on his political book, he profiled baseball great Ted Williams for Esquire magazine, capturing the ornery guy as nobody else ever had or would. (I teach the Williams profile at the University of Pennsylvania.) So when he turned his attention to politics, he was able to approach the topic as an outsider, freed of its journalistic conventions. Nobody today would be able to write about politics the way he did. The contemporary news cycle spins too quickly, and it's too hooked on buzz and heat. Cramer, back in the pre-Internet days of 1987 and 1988, didn't care a whit about speed - an editor once joked that Cramer took a year and a half just to write his name - and he wasn't interested in that era's buzz and heat. He wanted to know what the '88 candidates were really like deep down - where they came from, what their families were like, what drove them to believe they should be president, "what it takes" to pursue the dream. And he wasn't cynical about the candidates. He had empathy for all of them - just as a novelist has empathy for his characters, warts and all. In 2010, I decided that Cramer should visit Penn to talk about his unusual process, and about how the book had risen from dud to classic. He was tough to reach. He lived quietly in rural Maryland. He didn't have a cellphone, and he didn't have an email account. But with the help of his wife Joan, and a year's effort on my part, he finally came. During his hour-long talk, in Novermber '11, he told listeners that he didn't even hit the 1988 campaign trail until he had first exhausted every possible source in the candidates' home towns. That process alone took nearly a year. He wanted to know the candidates as people, not as news-coverage caricatures. And when he finally met the candidates, they were stunned - and appreciative - of his efforts. "I wasn't just another guy with a notebook that gets his 15-minute interview," he said at Penn. "I was the guy that their Aunt Sarah was calling them about. In fact, I was their only link to Aunt Sarah anymore....I knew more about their lives than they did at that point. Which led me to an important truth of the book - which is that, when you run for president, your life is gone. (Your previous life) is completely wiped out by the process of getting that job." Cramer had disdain for conventional reporters who never try to humanize the candidates. In a forum at New York University a decade ago, he said that his stints in the home towns had been "incredibly valuable. What amazes me is that most journalists won't bother talking to the people who love these guys. They only want to talk to the critics, or at the very least, people who have political reservations about him. Journalists think, 'What the hell is his sister going to say? She's going to say that he's wonderful. Big deal!' But they are missing the point. The important question is how is he wonderful! If you want to understand how someone got to the point where he is a credible candidate for president of a nation of 250 million people, you'd better damn well know how he is wonderful. But most journalists don't care about that."

Swan Swan H Jan 16 2013 11:22 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Conrad Bain, 89. I thought he'd outlive all three Diff'rent Strokes kids, but Todd Bridges hangs in there.

Edgy MD Jan 16 2013 11:30 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Survived by Mrs. Garrett and his identical twin Bonar Bain. Funny guy, in his own way, even if his Drummond character was a dry straight man for Arnold's wacky shtick.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 17 2013 12:26 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Abigail Van Buren (Dear Abby), 94.

Edgy MD Jan 17 2013 12:30 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Abby was twice the the advisor her daughter-successor turned out to be, but I'm a Landers man and always will be.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 17 2013 12:32 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Me too.

Swan Swan H Jan 17 2013 12:35 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I always struck me as pretty amazing how the Friedman twins grew up to become the most well-read advice columnists in the country. I can't really think of another case where siblings, let alone twins, achieved similar fame in a similarly narrow niche.

Edgy MD Jan 17 2013 12:49 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Conrad and Bonar Bain, not quite.

SteveJRogers Jan 17 2013 01:02 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Swan Swan H wrote: I always struck me as pretty amazing how the Friedman twins grew up to become the most well-read advice columnists in the country. I can't really think of another case where siblings, let alone twins, achieved similar fame in a similarly narrow niche. Knuckleballing Niekros? Pro Wrestling Harts (Bret & Owen)?

Benjamin Grimm Jan 17 2013 01:05 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

How about Chang and Eng in the very narrow field of cojoined sideshow attractions?

Swan Swan H Jan 17 2013 05:12 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Excellent call on the Niekro Bros, Steve. I don't know wrestling much, but it seems the Harts were two among many famous names. Chang and Eng - of course.

Edgy MD Jan 17 2013 05:24 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Well, I would think that we'd be looking for twins with separate acts in the same field. It's easy for Mary-Kate and Ashley Olson or Maurice and Robin Gibb or Gary and Martin Kemp advance to the same level in the same industry when they come as a package.

Swan Swan H Jan 17 2013 05:34 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

My thinking was more that when Abby and Ann were at their most popular they were two of maybe five to ten nationally syndicated advice columnists who were household names. I think they Niekros are comparable as they were knuckleballers, not simply pitchers. Jack Narz and Tom Kennedy were brothers who were brand-name TV game show hosts, two of maybe a dozen or so who were on the air at the time - that's what I was thinking. Contrarily, Warren Beatty and Shirley MacLaine are sibs, but they are two among a great number of movie actors.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 17 2013 05:46 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

When Abby and Ann were at their most popular, they were more like 1-2 in the advice-column game... and feuding/estranged.

TheOldMole Jan 17 2013 06:26 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

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DocTee Jan 18 2013 06:56 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

R.I.P. Proposition Joe.

TheOldMole Jan 19 2013 02:28 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

RIP Gorgeous Gussie Moran, best known for causing a scandal by wearing lace panties at Wimbledon in the 40s. Best known to Brooklyn Dodger fans of a certain age for appearing as a regular on Sports Extra with Marty Glickman, Bert Lee Jr., and Ward Wilson.

Ashie62 Jan 30 2013 09:14 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Patty Andrews, 94..last surviving Andrews sister... [url]http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dailyrecord/obituary.aspx?n=patty-andrews&pid=162748817#fbLoggedOut

MFS62 Jan 30 2013 09:54 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Ashie62 wrote: Patty Andrews, 94..last surviving Andrews sister... [url]http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dailyrecord/obituary.aspx?n=patty-andrews&pid=162748817#fbLoggedOut A Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy should play Taps at her funeral. Later

Benjamin Grimm Feb 01 2013 04:45 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 01 2013 05:13 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Oh man. A great New Yorker.

Frayed Knot Feb 01 2013 06:02 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

So I guess the answer to his favorite question now is: Not good at all

themetfairy Feb 01 2013 06:08 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

The quintessential New Yorker. RIP Mayor Koch!

Edgy MD Feb 01 2013 06:12 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Amazin' that there's only been three NYC mayors since him. Only six during my lifetime.

metirish Feb 01 2013 06:18 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Sad news, even though you knew it was coming. His visits to Gaelic Park back in the day to help legalize the Irish are legendary in the Irish community. A true champion of all people.

Frayed Knot Feb 01 2013 06:23 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Amazin' that there's only been three NYC mayors since him. Only six during my lifetime. And that's all with a term limits measure passed during that span. True that it's an ignored term limits statute, but it's still one that didn't exist previously. Still not as bad as some towns though. I lived for a while in Albany during the time Erasmus Corning Jr. (yes, that was his real name) was running for his 11th 4-year term. He won. There were bumper stickers at the time which carried the simple message: KEEP THE MAYOR, MAYOR No name was even mention. None were needed.

Frayed Knot Feb 01 2013 07:23 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

And opening today in selected Manhattan theaters: KOCH; a 95 documentary about the former mayor. Geez, even dead that guy has great timing and promotional skills!

MFS62 Feb 01 2013 07:46 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

When he left office, his Law Firm was in the same building as Company for which I worked. I met him and spoke with him several times on a variety of subjects. Once, I told him that I had met and shaken hands with several other famous politicians and asked if I could shake his hand. After we shook hands, he asked me an "Ed Koch question" - "How was my handshake compared to theirs?". I said, "Yours was the best!" Olevai Shalom, Mr. Mayor. You will be missed. Later

Mets – Willets Point Feb 01 2013 08:07 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

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d'Kong76 Feb 01 2013 08:09 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Shook hands with him years ago at Shea of all places. Much larger man than I expected. Usually it's the other way around with people you see on TV. RIP, Mr. Mayorextraordinaire.

G-Fafif Feb 01 2013 08:12 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

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Mets – Willets Point Feb 01 2013 08:34 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Koch presided over 1 Mets World Series championship and 1 Yankees championship (1978), bested only by John Lindsay who presided over one Mets championship and 2 Mets pennants and zero post-season appearances by the Yankees.

Frayed Knot Feb 01 2013 10:57 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Koch was a total [u:vlqal64l]NON[/u:vlqal64l] sports fan, but he sure didn't let that stop him from weaseling his way into the dugout and related celebrations of those '86 Mets.

metirish Feb 01 2013 11:39 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

And a total non Irish man too, although he gave it a good blast Edward I. Koch trying to play a bagpipe before the St. Patrick's Day parade on New York's Fifth Avenue, March 17th, 1983. Photograph: Fred R. Conrad/The New York Times http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/bre ... ing50.html

Chad Ochoseis Feb 01 2013 11:50 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I haven't been able to get Edgy's Ed Koch Bridge/They Might Be Giants song parody out of my head. All. Freaking. Day.

d'Kong76 Feb 01 2013 11:57 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

That bagpipe picture is classikc!

themetfairy Feb 01 2013 12:11 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Frayed Knot wrote: Koch was a total NON sports fan, but he sure didn't let that stop him from weaseling his way into the dugout and related celebrations of those '86 Mets. Cut from the same cloth as Fred Lebow - the man knew a promotional opportunity when he saw it!

Edgy MD Feb 01 2013 03:30 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I haven't been able to get Edgy's Ed Koch Bridge/They Might Be Giants song parody out of my head. All. Freaking. Day. Sorry about that. Blame TMBG. Or the Four Lads. Good thread, too: "The Bridge with Three Names."

Edgy MD Feb 01 2013 03:44 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Who knew Teddy Kennedy sang with The Four Lads? [youtube:wxv2mjkn]lG7xMTMdaLA[/youtube:wxv2mjkn]

G-Fafif Feb 01 2013 03:55 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Ashie62 Feb 01 2013 03:55 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Amazin' that there's only been three NYC mayors since him. Only six during my lifetime. And that's all with a term limits measure passed during that span. True that it's an ignored term limits statute, but it's still one that didn't exist previously. Still not as bad as some towns though. I lived for a while in Albany during the time Erasmus Corning Jr. (yes, that was his real name) was running for his 11th 4-year term. He won. There were bumper stickers at the time which carried the simple message: KEEP THE MAYOR, MAYOR No name was even mention. None were needed. You had Mayor Lindsey in the Mets locker room in 69..Koch in 86 and with term limits Bloomberg in 2016 R.I.P Ed

Edgy MD Feb 05 2013 05:37 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Reg Presley, Troglodyte. [youtube:1pag8aiy]z9DVJE_bhVU[/youtube:1pag8aiy] [youtube:1pag8aiy]3WOdnA3TMGU[/youtube:1pag8aiy] And their greatest moment: [youtube:1pag8aiy]En4ase-1-FA[/youtube:1pag8aiy]

Edgy MD Feb 06 2013 08:56 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Also worth remembering, the Troggs brief merger with REM: [youtube]bUJU2MVIOWI[/youtube] In later years, Mr. Presley developed an obsession with alien abductions and crop circles and used his song royalties to pursue UFO research. In 2004, he published a book on the subject, “Wild Things They Don’t Tell Us.” “I looked at my first crop formation in 1990 and after that I was hooked,” he told the Independent newspaper. “When I was young and studying to be a bricklayer, with all the arches and things that we had to draw at college, that gave me an insight to know that this was no ordinary wind damage. I knew there was something more technical there.” He was renowned in Andover for his 12-hour vigils to watch the local cornfields for crop circles. He was once questioned by the police after he attempted to build an antenna on a hilltop to purportedly communicate with aliens. The singer believed the crop circles were warning Earthlings of an impending disaster, or perhaps served as refueling sites for spacecraft. “For them, it’s like going from Southampton to Wick, in Scotland,” he told the Observer newspaper. “You have to fill up at Glasgow, else you ain’t going to make it.”

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 06 2013 12:26 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Great track of the day. Paul Tanner, guy who played theramin on Good Vibrations, dead at 95.

Edgy MD Feb 06 2013 12:46 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

So, a Stipeless REM backed Zevon and joined with the Troggs. Were there any other such side acts?

MFS62 Feb 07 2013 07:29 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

The iron: http://news.yahoo.com/monopoly-gets-tok ... style.html Later

G-Fafif Feb 09 2013 02:04 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Jazz legend Donald Byrd, 80.

TheOldMole Feb 10 2013 01:17 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

And another music great -- James DePriest, a brilliant jazz drummer, his career cut short by polio, which confined him to a wheelchair, but he didn't let it stop him. Drom a wheelchair, he became one of the great symphony conductors.

TheOldMole Feb 17 2013 05:44 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Keiko Fukuda, who learned judo from its inventor and went on to become the sport’s highest-ranked woman, died on Feb. 9 at her home in San Francisco. She was 99. In the early 1930s Kano, as he was known, invited Ms. Fukuda, then 21 and standing less than five feet tall, to join a new judo class for women at the school he founded in In the early 1930s Kano, as he was known, invited Ms. Fukuda, then 21 and standing less than five feet tall, to join a new judo class for women at the school he founded in Tokyo, called the Kodokan. It was rare for women to learn judo at the time. “At first, all I could think of was how aggressive the maneuvers were and how unusual it was to see women spreading their legs,” Ms. Fukuda told The San Francisco Chronicle in 2011. She grew to love the sport. When she learned she would have to give it up as part of the arranged marriage planned for her, she refused to be married. By the late ’30s, she had become an instructor and developed an expertise in ju-no-kata, a gentler form of judo.

themetfairy Feb 17 2013 07:37 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

RIP Mindy McCready

Edgy MD Feb 17 2013 07:58 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Hateful things in this thread.

Ashie62 Feb 17 2013 08:23 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

themetfairy wrote: RIP Mindy McCready She did alot of dope. It hurts..r.i.p

Swan Swan H Feb 17 2013 08:26 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Ashie62 wrote: themetfairy wrote: RIP Mindy McCready She did alot of dope. One in particular.

Frayed Knot Feb 18 2013 03:05 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Longtime owner (since 1979) of the LA Lakers Jerry Buss - 80 Almost always referred to as Doctor Jerry Buss leading me to wonder what the doctor thing was all about. Turns out he had a doctorate in Physical Chemistry and initially worked for the government's bureau of mines before eventually making his money in real estate after first investing a small amount as a way to supplement his income from teaching in the Chem dept at USC. Lakers have made the playoffs in 32 of the 34 years he's been the owner, although this season isn't looking so good.

Ashie62 Feb 18 2013 08:45 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Dr. Buss' cousin..

Ashie62 Feb 18 2013 08:46 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Swan Swan H wrote: Ashie62 wrote: themetfairy wrote: RIP Mindy McCready She did alot of dope. One in particular. Its the CPF not the NY Times..

Swan Swan H Feb 18 2013 09:29 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Let me know if that was too obscure or just not funny, Ashie. Not that I really care.

d'Kong76 Feb 19 2013 06:29 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Frayed Knot wrote: Longtime owner (since 1979) of the LA Lakers Jerry BussLakers have made the playoffs in 32 of the 34 years he's been the owner, although this season isn't looking so good. I knew the playoff rate was high but didn't realize it was that high. That's really quite remarkable.

Frayed Knot Feb 19 2013 06:44 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Kong76 wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Longtime owner (since 1979) of the LA Lakers Jerry BussLakers have made the playoffs in 32 of the 34 years he's been the owner, although this season isn't looking so good. I knew the playoff rate was high but didn't realize it was that high. That's really quite remarkable. And while it's easy to dismiss the "accomplishment" of making the playoffs in the NBA as something akin to making the phone book, his Lakers also rang up 10 championships and 16 finals appearances in those 30+ seasons. (not that the NBA will ever get criticized for having a huge gulf between the haves and the have-nots while just a few teams dominate their league year after year ... only baseball gets that kind of treatment)

Edgy MD Feb 19 2013 07:27 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Hard to find a picture of the guy where the chicks aren't throwing their cleavage his way. Did Magic Johnson give off that much reflected light? It's like the key to making it in LA was (1) get a boob job, and (2) throw yourself at Jerry Buss. You suckers should have gone to work with the bureau of mines.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 19 2013 08:30 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

He must have put a LOT of women through college.

MFS62 Feb 19 2013 08:37 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

He also had a collection of rare, very expensive, coins. He had asked one of our reps to search some out for him. It was good to be Jerry Buss. RIP Lter

Benjamin Grimm Feb 19 2013 08:47 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Yeah! The hell with the buxom babes... he had a coin collection!

Edgy MD Feb 19 2013 08:51 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

In LA, boobs are the coin of the realm. Even moreso in the eighties, I would imagine.

Ashie62 Feb 19 2013 12:02 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Swan Swan H wrote: Let me know if that was too obscure or just not funny, Ashie. Not that I really care. Rip Taylor. Mindy McCready will mosty be remembered by the public for her troubles. As a longstanding 12 step friend of Bill myself I should have known better than to word it that way. I apologize to those I offended..especially Mindy.

Swan Swan H Feb 19 2013 12:17 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Mindy McCready will best be remembered by baseball fans for an affair with Roger Clemens.

cooby Feb 19 2013 12:25 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Honestly I'm glad you mentioned that Swannie, because aside from that I never heard of her. And I couldn't have told you who that person was either.

cooby Feb 19 2013 12:28 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I also never heard of that Buss guy either, which goes to prove I haven't had a boob job

Benjamin Grimm Feb 19 2013 12:32 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

cooby wrote: I also never heard of that Buss guy either, which goes to prove I haven't had a boob job I guess that applies to me too.

RealityChuck Feb 19 2013 07:47 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

British Actor Richard Briers, best known in the US for "The Good Neighbors." He also appeared in several of Kennth Branagh's Shakespeare adaptations, most notably as Polonius in Hamlet Briers with his Good Neighbors co-star, Felicity Kendall

themetfairy Feb 25 2013 03:34 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

RIP C. Everett Koop

Edgy MD Feb 26 2013 07:35 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Was hoping for 100 years from C. Everett.

RealityChuck Feb 26 2013 10:00 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

jan howard finder. You probably don't know the name, but in science fiction circles, jan (aka The Wombat) was a big name fan and Fan Guest of Honor at the 1993 Worldcon. I've known jan for 30 years. He was a presence at science fiction conventions for years, and I worked with him to establish Albacon up here. He was always the center of attention, filled with enthusiasm. As his nickname implies, he loved all things Australian and visited there several times, once taking several months a buying a motor home to travel where he wanted (he took a course in auto repair in preparation, just in case). He also was involved in The Hobbit; I believe he flew down to New Zealand to be an extra. He organized academic symposia on Tolkien and wrote this nationally syndicated quiz on Tolkien. In fandom, he was a judge or participant in many a masquerade (sometimes appearing in his Fuzzy Pink Niven costume*), as well as an art auctioneer (he trained in auction techniques, too). He always ran "How to Survive Your First Con" and gave backrubs to anyone who asked. Oh, there's also a baseball connection: jan actually attended a World Series game at Wrigley Field. :) Few people got more joy out of life. *An in-joke. Larry Niven's wife had that nickname; finder wore a suit of pink faux fur, looking like Ralph in his rabbit pajamas from A Christmas Story

Mets – Willets Point Feb 26 2013 12:04 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Fung Wah Bus.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 27 2013 12:36 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Van Cliburn, rock star of classical pianists. Really interesting obit:[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/28/arts/music/van-cliburn-pianist-dies-at-78.html

Edgy MD Feb 27 2013 12:39 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Would've guessed he was twenty years older. And already dead.

themetfairy Mar 01 2013 11:26 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

No more days for Bonnie Franklin. RIP Ms. Romano.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 01 2013 11:29 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Gah, I hated that show. That doesn't, however, mean that I'm glad she's dead. How's Schneider doing?

G-Fafif Mar 01 2013 12:28 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

[youtube:1ppddnoo]anFUcuBt3hk[/youtube:1ppddnoo] Applause for Bonnie Franklin.

Edgy MD Mar 01 2013 12:40 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I thought for sure the next post in this thread would be for Alan Alda. Not far off.

Frayed Knot Mar 01 2013 02:50 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Gah, I hated that show. That doesn't, however, mean that I'm glad she's dead. How's Schneider doing? I think I watched one season, or maybe just part of one season, and that was entirely due to young Valerie Bertanelli. But, yeah, other than that, not a particularly good series. When George & Jerry of SEINFELD were sitting at the diner discussing possible plots for Jerry's TV series, George's suggestion of making Jerry into an antiques dealer who subsequently gets involved in the lives of the people who come into his store immediately struck me as a mocking of shows like ONE DAY AT a TIME where the aforementioned Schneider seemed to go everywhere with the main family even though he was nothing more than their apartment Super.

Mets – Willets Point Mar 01 2013 03:28 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

That has to be the only tv series set in Indianapolis. I like when tv shows get away from the tv hubs of New York City and Southern California.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 01 2013 03:33 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Mets – Willets Point wrote: That has to be the only tv series set in Indianapolis. I like when tv shows get away from the tv hubs of New York City and Southern California. The fictional Indy exurb Pawnee is home to Parks and Rec. Benjamin Grimm wrote: How's Schneider doing? Alive and kicking and at televised work, as late as late last year... approaching 84.

Edgy MD Mar 01 2013 05:13 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

It always was to me the first of the situation comedies that seemed to be built on a generic set with generic stylists and generic haircuts. Happy Days and Welcome Back, Kotter and Brady Bunch and What's happening and Gilligan's Island seemed to have a look and feel and color, even if they were all, to one degree or another, terminally stupid. One Day at a Time, Family Ties, Too Close for Comfort, I Married Dora (that's right, I said it), The Facts of Life, and Three's Company all seemed to be set in the bland neverworld of eggshell white walls, arched doorways, countertop bars, and fake ferns, with all the moppet kids in Supercuts hairdos and freshly creased acid washed jeans. I don't know how else to describe the difference. Throw a ratty afgan in there or something.

G-Fafif Mar 02 2013 02:13 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Mets – Willets Point wrote: That has to be the only tv series set in Indianapolis. I like when tv shows get away from the tv hubs of New York City and Southern California. The fictional Indy exurb Pawnee is home to Parks and Rec. The Middle, this reporter's choice for best contemporary sitcom, takes place in equally fictional Orson, Ind. It's a golden age for the fake Hoosier State.

Edgy MD Mar 02 2013 07:51 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Sitcom setting quiz.

Frayed Knot Mar 02 2013 08:23 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I remember that after last year's 'World Series of Sit-Coms' we threw in an attempt to "locate" each of the included series. Not sure that we ever completed the project. On 'One Day at a Time' - I had no idea it lasted ten seasons and over 200 shows!! I would have guessed maybe half that at most. I'm not even sure if we included it in our World Series project. Not that I think it would have gone anywhere if we did but, at that length, it shirley deserved to be thrown into the mix. - Bonnie Franklin was just 15 & 16 years older than her "daughters" Phillips & Bertanelli, Not that that sort of thing is all that uncommon in sit-com land although, in this case, I guess it was at least within shouting distance with the back-story of the characters

themetfairy Mar 02 2013 08:37 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Frayed Knot wrote: - Bonnie Franklin was just 15 & 16 years older than her "daughters" Phillips & Bertanelli, Not that that sort of thing is all that uncommon in sit-com land although, in this case, I guess it was at least within shouting distance with the back-story of the characters Yes, she was supposed to have gotten married very young, and divorced while in her early 30's. This isn't nearly as bad as other sitcom casting. There are a lot of shows from this era that don't stand the test of time but that nonetheless served a purpose in their day. One Day at a Time did a lot to change perceptions about divorcees and single parents. From what I'm reading in my Facebook feed, a lot of my friends who were raised by single parents related to this show and are feeling a deep loss from Ms. Franklin's passing. Whether you enjoyed One Day at a Time or not, it was certainly a game changer.

Frayed Knot Mar 05 2013 03:08 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Hugo Chavez - 58

Edgy MD Mar 05 2013 03:16 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Whoah!

Vic Sage Mar 05 2013 03:26 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Frayed Knot wrote: I remember that after last year's 'World Series of Sit-Coms' we threw in an attempt to "locate" each of the included series. Not sure that we ever completed the project. On 'One Day at a Time' - I had no idea it lasted ten seasons and over 200 shows!! I would have guessed maybe half that at most. I'm not even sure if we included it in our World Series project. Not that I think it would have gone anywhere if we did but, at that length, it shirley deserved to be thrown into the mix. - Bonnie Franklin was just 15 & 16 years older than her "daughters" Phillips & Bertanelli, Not that that sort of thing is all that uncommon in sit-com land although, in this case, I guess it was at least within shouting distance with the back-story of the characters i find it hard to believe i didn't include it. but i guess there could have been an oversight. where is that thread?

Vic Sage Mar 05 2013 03:26 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Frayed Knot wrote: Hugo Chavez - 58 Didn't he play shortstop for the white sox?

metirish Mar 05 2013 03:46 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

where will Joe Kennedy get his oil now?

Ashie62 Mar 05 2013 04:03 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Hugo Chavez is still dead.

metirish Mar 05 2013 04:17 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Somewhere Sean Penn and Oliver Stone are crying.

Frayed Knot Mar 05 2013 04:42 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

metirish wrote: Somewhere Sean Penn and Oliver Stone are crying. Don't cry for me Venezuela

metirish Mar 05 2013 04:47 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

From the excellent Matthew Callen on Twitter Matthew Callan ?@scratchbomb Hugo Chavez throwing out first pitch at Shea Stadium, 6/9/1999 (same night of Bobby Valentine's Groucho disguise)

Edgy MD Mar 05 2013 05:08 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Proudly Venezuelan in his Concepción/Afonzo #13.

Frayed Knot Mar 05 2013 05:14 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Vic Sage wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: I remember that after last year's 'World Series of Sit-Coms' we threw in an attempt to "locate" each of the included series. Not sure that we ever completed the project. On 'One Day at a Time' - I had no idea it lasted ten seasons and over 200 shows!! I would have guessed maybe half that at most. I'm not even sure if we included it in our World Series project. Not that I think it would have gone anywhere if we did but, at that length, it shirley deserved to be thrown into the mix. - Bonnie Franklin was just 15 & 16 years older than her "daughters" Phillips & Bertanelli, Not that that sort of thing is all that uncommon in sit-com land although, in this case, I guess it was at least within shouting distance with the back-story of the characters i find it hard to believe i didn't include it. but i guess there could have been an oversight. where is that thread? It was included as it turns out and those threads can be found in the Jan & Feb '11 archives. Between being surprised at the length the show ran I simply didn't remember if we even included it - hell, I didn't even realize that that contest was TWO years ago, not one. Turns out that 'One Day at a Time' got ousted in the 1st round in the 1970s groupings face-off.

Frayed Knot Mar 05 2013 05:14 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

metirish wrote: From the excellent Matthew Callen on Twitter Matthew Callan ?@scratchbomb Hugo Chavez throwing out first pitch at Shea Stadium, 6/9/1999 (same night of Bobby Valentine's Groucho disguise) Naturally he's a lefty. I remember that Fonzie wasn't too happy about him being there.

Edgy MD Mar 05 2013 05:43 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Best picture I found in the Chavez restrospective. A member of the National Revolutionary Militia holds her rifle on Militia Day in Caracas on April 13, 2010, marking the eighth anniversary of Chavez's return to power after the failed coup. (AP file photo by Ana Cubilos.)

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 06 2013 09:53 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Alvin Lee of Ten Years After, 68.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 06 2013 11:17 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Alvin Lee and Ten Years After are invited to play at Woodstock and emerge as international superstars on the heels of this incredible show-stopping performance. [youtube:1y0svx76]bW5M5xljdCI[/youtube:1y0svx76]

metirish Mar 06 2013 12:53 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Paul Bearer remember he used to come out with the Undertaker(wrestler)?, he would bring an urn with him.... my first exposure to WWF was when we first got Sky TV back in probably 91/92....used to watch with my younger brothers.....fond memories of this guy.

Vic Sage Mar 06 2013 01:26 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Alvin Lee and Ten Years After are invited to play at Woodstock and emerge as international superstars on the heels of this incredible show-stopping performance. so did they play at Woodstock in 1969 or 1979? As far as "international superstars" go, i don't know. I plead ignorance of most music recorded after the mid-80s, but i'm fairly aware of at least the more popular recordings of the 60s and 70s. And all i ever knew about "ten years after" is that they were a Brit blues band that played at Woodstock. I remember listening to that soundtrack album in college in the late 70s, on which they had some overlong blues number with showy guitar work, and somebody popped their head in from the hall and asked "is that TEN YEARS AFTER"? And all i remember thinking is "it may be ten years after, but its still not long enough." And that's the last i ever heard about them. Now I'm sure they were great, and may have been fairly popular for a short while, but i think i'd likely have heard their stuff a little more often over the past 45 years if they had ever achieved the status of "international superstars".

sharpie Mar 06 2013 01:54 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I remember "I'd Love to Change the World" being a pretty big radio hit. In the early 70's TYA had their adherents. I remember one friend of mine going on about the "Cricklewood Green" album but, other than their appearance in Woodstock, their legend has not surived.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 06 2013 02:06 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Vic Sage wrote: Alvin Lee and Ten Years After are invited to play at Woodstock and emerge as international superstars on the heels of this incredible show-stopping performance. so did they play at Woodstock in 1969 or 1979? As far as "international superstars" go, i don't know. I plead ignorance of most music recorded after the mid-80s, but i'm fairly aware of at least the more popular recordings of the 60s and 70s. And all i ever knew about "ten years after" is that they were a Brit blues band that played at Woodstock. I remember listening to that soundtrack album in college in the late 70s, on which they had some overlong blues number with showy guitar work, and somebody popped their head in from the hall and asked "is that TEN YEARS AFTER"? And all i remember thinking is "it may be ten years after, but its still not long enough." And that's the last i ever heard about them. Now I'm sure they were great, and may have been fairly popular for a short while, but i think i'd likely have heard their stuff a little more often over the past 45 years if they had ever achieved the status of "international superstars". I'd say we're both right. Woodstock elevated TYA (and some other acts --notably, Santana) to international fame, but TYA's super star petered out soon enough. I owned just about the entire TYA catalogue on vinyl records before CD's even existed and to tell you the truth, I thought that Lee was a boring, unimaginative and repetitive guitarist, a one-trick pony essentially. Most of the TYA songs sound alike, especially Lee's solo riffing, which was supposed to be the band's appeal. I got the impresssion that Lee was repeating the same solo on half the band's songs. Lee was all speed-freak but with little virtuosity. Thumbs up though, on I'd Love to Change the World, the band's biggest hit. [youtube]jzrUqAtUcpU[/youtube]

seawolf17 Mar 06 2013 02:33 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

metirish wrote: Paul Bearer remember he used to come out with the Undertaker(wrestler)?, he would bring an urn with him.... Of course I remember Paul Bearer! Not exactly a spring chicken at 58, but all these wrestling guys die too young.

metirish Mar 06 2013 03:00 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I would have swore he was older.....guy looked 58 back in the day....58 is old for this game I suppose.

Edgy MD Mar 06 2013 04:17 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

TYA didn't even show up for the Woodstock 1979 reunion concert, one of the great promotional failures in rock history. They would have been the first guys I called!

Ashie62 Mar 06 2013 04:42 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

metirish wrote: From the excellent Matthew Callen on Twitter Matthew Callan ?@scratchbomb Hugo Chavez throwing out first pitch at Shea Stadium, 6/9/1999 (same night of Bobby Valentine's Groucho disguise) Shit..thats Fausto Carmona!

Benjamin Grimm Mar 06 2013 05:11 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I seem to remember that Murray and his wife Marie adopted a little boy named Lee Chin. Is Lee Chin still alive?

Edgy MD Mar 06 2013 05:37 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

If he is, he's still looking for a second credit.

Fman99 Mar 06 2013 08:03 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Thumbs up though, on I'd Love to Change the World, the band's biggest hit. [youtube]jzrUqAtUcpU[/youtube] Tremendous song.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 07 2013 04:58 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Stompin Tom Connors, Canadian country legend who refused to "sell out" and chase US $$. [youtube:kkkdcpc7]3QtQy_xHdDo[/youtube:kkkdcpc7]

metirish Mar 07 2013 06:17 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Stompin Tom Connors, Canadian country legend who refused to "sell out" and chase US $$. [youtube]3QtQy_xHdDo[/youtube] died poor.

Nymr83 Mar 07 2013 05:51 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

"We have decided to prepare the body of our 'Comandante President,' to embalm it so that it remains open for all time for the people. Just like Ho Chi Minh. Just like Lenin. Just like Mao Zedong," Maduro said. This is who your friends compare you to? ouch.

G-Fafif Mar 18 2013 05:22 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

The great Bobbie Smith, 76, one of the silky voices who defined the sound of the mighty, mighty Spinners for 57 soulful years.

G-Fafif Mar 19 2013 05:59 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Putting face to voice in three of Mr. Smith's finest minutes. [youtube:212u0qyp]NfG47NsWVYA[/youtube:212u0qyp]

TransMonk Mar 19 2013 07:37 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

One of my favorite indie musicians, Jason Molina, 39, "natural causes". http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2013 ... s-has-died I had seen Jason Molina several times both as a solo artist and with his bands Songs:Ohia and Magnolia Electric Company. He will also has a connection to my Mets fandom...I went to see his live show after Game 7 of the 2006 NLCS. [youtube:2rwm2w5a]qvbncUCyTxE[/youtube:2rwm2w5a]

MFS62 Mar 21 2013 12:30 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Harry Reems: http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/20/showbiz/p ... ostpopular No punchlines, please. RIP. Later

TheOldMole Mar 21 2013 02:12 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I actually met him a couple of times.

sharpie Mar 22 2013 08:09 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Nigerian author, Chinua Achebe, 82. Things Fall Apart, A Man of the People, Anthills of the Savannah, all great books.

Vic Sage Mar 22 2013 10:19 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

MFS62 wrote: Harry Reems: http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/20/showbiz/p ... ostpopular No punchlines, please. RIP. Later I met him, too. when i was in college (early 1980's; maybe `82), i was on the student activities board (i programmed the film series), and Board's speakers series booked Harry to come to campus to have a debate with a woman from WOMEN AGAINST PORNOGRAPHY (It may have been Dorchen Leidholdt, then prez of that anti-sex/anti-First Amendment splinter group of radical feminism. But they may have sent some other uptight, strident, humorless bitch; i don't remember.) To promote the event, the speakers group booked DEVIL IN MISS JONES (1973) Gerard Damiano's porn classic that featured Reems opposite Georgina Spelvin. They had such a huge turnout, they were overwhelmed by the crowd and panicking. Since i was experienced in showing films at that space, they called me in to help them out. We went from 3 showings to 6, to accommodate the crowds, and got the horny buggers into orderly lines to wait their turn to get in or to buy tickets for later showings, using another door for clearing the exiting crowds. They ended up making more money on the movie than on the debate. In return, i got to go to the debate and hang out a bit with Mr. Reems. He was smarter than you'd think and well versed in First Amendment issues. And he had a sense of humor about himself. And he kicked that uptight, strident, humorless bitch's ass in the debate. S'long Harry, and thanks for all the... well, thanks.

TheOldMole Mar 22 2013 11:27 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

With me it was when I was working with Margaret Whiting in the 70s, and she got involved with the First Amendment defense following Harry's conviction. I, too, found him pleasant, humorous and intelligent. Later, of course, Margaret would enter into a longstanding relationship with another porn star, Jck Wrangler, who was a very decent guy and took good care of her.

Edgy MD Mar 22 2013 12:20 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Ray Williams, gorgeously streaky shooter (who I referenced in a post last week about big-scoring/high-shooting-percentage days) and a two-way revelation as a backcourt partner with Michael Ray Richardson, is dead at 58. Narrative that's so perfect it should be on VH-1: http://deadspin.com/ray-williams-the-ul ... -458390431

Edgy MD Mar 26 2013 10:23 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

The remarkable Rabbi Herschel Schachter, 95. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/27/nyreg ... share&_r=0

MFS62 Mar 27 2013 08:17 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Edgy MD wrote: The remarkable Rabbi Herschel Schachter, 95. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/27/nyreg ... share&_r=0 Olavai Sholom, Rabbi Schachter. May you always have Peace. Later

G-Fafif Mar 29 2013 03:01 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Bob Teague, Channel 4 news, 84.

TransMonk Mar 29 2013 08:15 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Robert Zildjian, Founder of Sabian Cymbal Company, Dies at 89

sharpie Mar 29 2013 09:12 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Richard Griffiths, 65. Loved in "The History Boys." http://www.salon.com/2013/03/29/actor_r ... _at_65_ap/

Mets – Willets Point Mar 29 2013 09:34 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

You've got a picture of Zildjian cymbal there, TM. Here is a Sabian cymbal:

TransMonk Mar 29 2013 10:49 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

My apologies...confusing.

G-Fafif Mar 31 2013 09:58 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Phil Ramone, top record producer, most notably for Billy Joel and Paul Simon, 79.

G-Fafif Mar 31 2013 10:00 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Tom Boerwinkle, Bulls center whose name got my attention when I was a kid for its similarity to Bullwinkle, 67. Was namechecked in an episode of the The White Shadow as a former teammate of fictional ex-Bull Kenny Reeves.

G-Fafif Mar 31 2013 10:03 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Helen Kutsher, 89, as in Kutsher's in the Catskills, where I unknowingly shared an elevator ride with Lee Mazzilli when I was 14, Lee was 22 and Helen was greeting guests with a hearty "Welcome home!" though I don't remember if she said that me or Lee.

Mets – Willets Point Apr 03 2013 08:09 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

G-Fafif wrote: Phil Ramone, top record producer, most notably for Billy Joel and Paul Simon, 79. I heard this interview with Ramone on Fresh Air. Fascinating insights into working as an engineer and producer in the recording studios of the 60s & 70s.

Edgy MD Apr 03 2013 08:28 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

He ran the sound when Marilyn Monroe cooed “Happy Birthday” to President John F. Kennedy at Madison Square Garden in 1962... . There's one for the ages.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 03 2013 08:29 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Author/historian Robert Remini, 91. I read his one-volume biography of Andrew Jackson as well as his bio of Daniel Webster.

Vic Sage Apr 03 2013 09:29 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Phil Ramone, top record producer, most notably for Billy Joel and Paul Simon, 79. I worked with him about 15 years ago, on the cast album for BIG: THE MUSICAL. Watching him in the studio, keeping his head while the clock was ticking and composers, arrangers, engineers, musicians and singers scurried about, was really impressive. Plus, he was a kind gentleman.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 03 2013 09:53 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Billy Joel talks about Ramone, disses all of his other producers. Good stuff! [url]http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/billy-joel-pays-tribute-to-phil-ramone-he-was-the-king-20130403

Mets – Willets Point Apr 03 2013 10:01 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I was surprised to learn that Quincy Jones was the producer for the Lesley Gore songs, mostly because I'd expect the racial attitudes of 1963 wouldn't allow a black man to work with a white teenager.

G-Fafif Apr 03 2013 01:02 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Mark Herrmann of Newsday tweets former colleague and longtime columnist Stan Isaacs, one of the original reporters on the Mets beat, has just passed away. Stan told great Casey Stengel stories at the Hofstra conference just about a year ago.

G-Fafif Apr 03 2013 01:10 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Newsday reprinted Isaacs's coverage of the Mets' first game ever last year. There is no Santa Claus, the meek shall not inherit the earth and the Mets will not win all their games. The brutality of their own limitations was so evident in the Mets' 11-4 opening game loss to the Cardinals last night that the weak-hearted might fear for their losing all their games. But that's only because first impressions are so damning. Things became so painful in the late stages of this long-awaited debut of New York's new team that it was hard to remember that the Mets actually made a fight of it for five innings. There were noble blows in the form of Gil Hodges' home run -- a most fitting of the Mets' first -- in the fourth inning and Charley Neal's homer in the fifth. That put them at a deficit of only 5-4, but then their limitations started showing. In addition to the little mistakes that don't show up in the boxscores, there were the big mistakes: three errors, three stolen bases for the Cards and 16 hits off four Mets' pitchers. Cardinals manager Johnny Keane tried to think of a nice word to say for the famous old man in the other dugout. "Actually, I was too busy thinking about my own team to feel sorry for Stengel," Keane said. Casey Stengel agreed that Stan Musial's three hits were "Pretty good but weren't the only thing." He said the Mets' hitting was encouraging. The closest thing he came to recognizing the disappointment of losing the first game was, "We didn't have a good day out there." Stengel wasn't shocked: So someone asked, "Were you shocked that it was so bad?" He didn't blink. "Shocked? No, I could tell it was going haywire in the first innings when the ground balls went through [a grounder past Hodges that the first baseman thought he should have caught) and the other one fell in left,'' the manager said, referring to a soft fly by Musial that leftfielder Frank Thomas vainly pursued like a man running in a quagmire. "Damn," Mets centerfielder Richie Ashburn said. "The thing was that we'll probably never see Larry Jackson pitch so badly again." After they fell behind, 2-0, in the first inning, the Mets got second-inning hits by Gus Bell (the Mets' first) and Don Zimmer, but they went to waste. The Mets tied it in the third. After Ashburn hit a one-out single and Felix Mantilla walked Neal knocked in Ashburn and moved Mantilla to third with the first of his three hits. Mantilla scored on a sacrifice fly by Thomas, tying the score at 2. The next time the Mets came to bat they were behind 5-2 as the Cardinals scored three more runs off Mets starter Roger Craig. Hodges hit his 362nd homer, moving him ahead of Joe DiMaggio into 11th place in the all-time standings, and Neal's homer brought the Mets withoin one before the Cards put the game out of reach with a run in the fifth and four in the sixth. The thing took on a bloody carnage aspect in the eighth. . . As it turned out, Clem Labine got out of it with only one run. If he hadn't the brutality might have set those with weak stomachs to forget boxing and cry for the abolishment of baseball -- at least the kind the Mets may be involved in too often this year.

Edgy MD Apr 03 2013 01:51 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Isaacs was a prince to me. Met him when he did a talk on the Olympics, which disappointed his blue-haired public library audience when he declared how empty the ideals of the Olympics really were --- an this was a talk billed by the library as a, you know, great build-up to Olympic fun! Sensing the way the evening was going, I asked him what his favorite Olympic story was, and he simply had the audience spellbound telling not one, but two of the most inspiration stories not a one of us had never heard. I don't know if his Newsday column covering the way TV covered sports was a first of it's kind, but it really was enlightening for me, and underscored for me how lucky we were to have Bill Webb and Tim McCarver, and that even though I was too young to realize it had never been done this well before, I had this veteran reporter to assure me that it hadn't.

metirish Apr 03 2013 02:03 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Irish actor Milo O'Shea passed away in NY after a short illness. Aged 86.

Edgy MD Apr 03 2013 02:28 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Oh, man! A giant. Thing about O'Shea was that, to me, the O'Shea who did comedy was a very different animal from the O'Shea who did heavier fare. Brought very different tools depending on the game. The guy was Leopold Bloom. The guy was Duran Duran!

Vic Sage Apr 03 2013 02:37 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Actually, he was DURAND DURAND - "I'll do things to you that are beyond all known philosophies!"

metirish Apr 03 2013 02:55 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Very versatile , had some of the most distinctive eyebrows ever. He played the begorrah bog Irish man wonderfully in a few movies and TV shows.

G-Fafif Apr 03 2013 02:59 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Edgy MD wrote: Isaacs was a prince to me. Met him when he did a talk on the Olympics, which disappointed his blue-haired public library audience when he declared how empty the ideals of the Olympics really were --- an this was a talk billed by the library as a, you know, great build-up to Olympic fun! Sensing the way the evening was going, I asked him what his favorite Olympic story was, and he simply had the audience spellbound telling not one, but two of the most inspiration stories not a one of us had never heard. I don't know if his Newsday column covering the way TV covered sports was a first of it's kind, but it really was enlightening for me, and underscored for me how lucky we were to have Bill Webb and Tim McCarver, and that even though I was too young to realize it had never been done this well before, I had this veteran reporter to assure me that it hadn't. I do believe Isaac was the first to take on Sports on TV in New York, at least for fun if not quite as intently as Phil Mushnick. I remember he crafted a quiz about New York for the Mets and MFY announcers circa 1985 to see how well they knew the city where they worked. None of them could identify which subway lines ran to Shea and MFYS II, respectively.

G-Fafif Apr 03 2013 03:18 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Billy Joel talks about Ramone, disses all of his other producers. Good stuff! [url]http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/billy-joel-pays-tribute-to-phil-ramone-he-was-the-king-20130403 Terrific tribute. Thanks for the link.

Edgy MD Apr 03 2013 07:40 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Billy Joel ever work with Ruth Prawer Jhabvala?

metirish Apr 03 2013 07:48 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

G-Fafif wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Billy Joel talks about Ramone, disses all of his other producers. Good stuff! [url]http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/billy-joel-pays-tribute-to-phil-ramone-he-was-the-king-20130403 Terrific tribute. Thanks for the link. printing this out to read on the crapper......long read

G-Fafif Apr 03 2013 10:11 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Stan Isaacs, remembered in Newsday. Stan Isaacs took pride in being known for something he had taken. He swiped the Brooklyn Dodgers 1955 world championship pennant from Los Angeles and brought it back to what he considered its home. For generations of readers and colleagues at Newsday, though, he is known for what he gave: a whole new way to view and appreciate sports and reporting. Isaacs, once one of a group of industry-changing young reporters known as Chipmunks and later a pioneer as a columnist writing about televised sports, died in his sleep at home in Haverford, Pa., Tuesday night, his daughter Ellen said. He was 83. In his final column for Newsday in 1992, Isaacs wrote that he subscribed to Joseph Pulitzer's ideal that newspapers should "inform and enlighten." That would explain his famous question to Yankees pitcher Ralph Terry, who said his wife listened to a World Series game while feeding her baby: "Breast or bottle?" "He saw humor in things, lightness in things that very few guys did. A lot of us at Newsday learned to do that from him," said Steve Jacobson, a fellow Chipmunk in the 1960s and then a longtime Newsday columnist. The Brooklyn native and longtime Roslyn Heights resident balanced a sense of hearty irreverence and a deep social conscience in a career that saw him cover Bobby Thomson's famous home run in 1951, Roger Maris' record home run chase in 1961, the birth of the Mets, the Muhammad Ali-Joe Frazier fights and the Islanders' Stanley Cup run. His daughter said the two things he was most proud of were taking that Dodgers banner, which he always saw as having been earned by the sweat of players in Brooklyn and which now is at the Brooklyn Historical Society on Pierrepoint Street, and pushing to have a statue built that depicted Pee Wee Reese with his arm around Dodgers teammate Jackie Robinson, the player who integrated the major leagues. The statue stands outside the minor league ballpark at Coney Island. It was no accident that his column for many years was called "Out of Left Field" because it took a different tack than most sports reporting at the time. He would use phrases such as, "To quote William Shakespeare, 'Oy vey.' " Having heard many ballplayers say during spring training that they would be ready "when the bell rings," he once clanged a cowbell in the press box on Opening Day. "He had a perpetual smile on his face," said Tony Kornheiser, a popular commentator on ESPN who grew up on Long Island reading Isaacs, then considered it the highest honor to join his favorite writer on the Newsday staff. "I adored Stan Isaacs, I idolized Stan Isaacs, I revered Stan Isaacs." When Kornheiser began in the sports department, Isaacs had just started a tenure as a news columnist. "I found Stan's desk, I found his typewriter. I just felt some of his humor, some of his talent would rub off on me," Kornheiser said. "I think of his acerbic humor, his intellect, his drive to demystify sports. When I think of the Chipmunks, I remember that I not only wanted to be like them, I wanted them to like me." Stanley Isaacs was born -- without a middle name -- on April 22, 1929 in Williamsburg, Brooklyn (his daughter joked that the wedding license might list "Plain" as his name because he told officials that he was "just Stanley plain Isaacs"). He attended Eastern District High School and Brooklyn College before going to work for the Daily Compass and moving to Newsday in 1954. His diverse career included a short term as sports editor. But it was reporting and writing that were his strength and his passion. When he began the TV sports column in 1978, The Boston Globe was the only other paper that had one. Long before the Internet, he had an interactive relationship with his readers, holding an annual Grab Bag contest at Christmas and sending out various items of memorabilia. Every April 1, he wrote his Isaacs Ratings of Esoteric Distinction in which he ranked everything from the world's best chocolate ice creams to the top Giants (Carl Hubbell was No. 1, Goliath was No. 3). Ellen Isaacs said her father never was the same after the death of Bobbie, his wife of 58 years, in January, 2012. Still, he remained interested in sports and writing. A chapter is devoted to him in Dennis D'Agostino's new book on baseball writers. On the final day of his life, Isaacs emailed D'Agostino, asking if there would be a sequel because he had more stories to tell. Along with Ellen of San Jose, he is survived by his daughters Nancy of Philadelphia and Ann Isaacs Basch of Melrose Park, Pa. and four grandchildren. A memorial service will be held Saturday at the Quadrangle Senior Living Facility in Haverford, Pa.

Edgy MD Apr 04 2013 07:35 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

How appropriate hear that he influenced Jacobson. How maddening to hear that he influenced Kornheiser.

Vic Sage Apr 04 2013 07:49 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Edgy MD wrote: Billy Joel ever work with Ruth Prawer Jhabvala? i don't know about Billy, but i sort of did. I worked for the distributor of THE BOSTONIANS back in the mid-80s, and the producer Ishmael Merchant, took the whole sales staff out for lunch. We didn't meet Ms. Jhabvala or James Ivory, but Merchant gave us their best wishes. Regardless of his good tidings and nice lunch, it didn't make me like the movie which, like all the Merchant/Ivory (and Jhabvala) films, was pretentious twaddle akin to watching paint dry. As a team, Merchant/Ivory/Jhabvala were the leading exporters of what i refer to as "coffee table movies"... movies that upper- and upper-middle class folk go to see (or at least CLAIM to see) and mention in passing to their brethren to display their sophistication and good taste, like a book of fine art sitting on their coffee table that they've never bothered to open but serves as a signifier of class to anyone entering their home. I think only people with a lot of money have the time to waste staring at a sequence of pretty pictures flipping by at 24 frames per second, about other wealthy people who feel so constrained by society that they spend two hours of YOUR life doing... nothing.

seawolf17 Apr 04 2013 01:37 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Roger Ebert, who just retired two days ago. http://www.suntimes.com/17320958-761/ro ... ancer.html http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2013/04 ... sense.html

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 04 2013 01:49 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Thumbs down.

Edgy MD Apr 04 2013 03:02 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Just reading Will Leitch's remembrances of him, not realizing it was an obit of sorts.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 04 2013 04:47 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Good writer. More than good dude. His passing still bugs me more than I care to admit.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 04 2013 05:25 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Even if he hadn't become an inspirational mouthless cancer fighter, he was a huge figure. Probably the most famous movie reviewer ever, and I agreed with him way more often than I did with Siskel.

Mets – Willets Point Apr 04 2013 06:38 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

The Fat Guy and the Other One reunited at the celestial movie theater.

Fman99 Apr 04 2013 07:21 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Thumbs down.

Edgy MD Apr 05 2013 07:31 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Even if he hadn't become an inspirational mouthless cancer fighter, he was a huge figure. Probably the most famous movie reviewer ever, and I agreed with him way more often than I did with Siskel. The fact that they always remained somewhat enignmatic to each other added a lot to the dynamic, though. Ebert, interviewed seperately, could never understand how Siskel could care so much about something as pointless as a basketball team. Siskel, who clearly loved his movies, couldn't understand how Ebert could seemingly care about nothing else.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 05 2013 07:39 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I happened to have met Siskel's youngest daughter recently, she was working PR for a work related event. Looked like she was just out college, and must not have known her dad for long.

Vic Sage Apr 05 2013 07:53 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Siskel & Ebert were a conundrum. They both had newsprint running through their veins, the last of a dying breed of print critics whose success was based on their solid understanding of their subject and their felicity of expression, not their telegenic looks. And here they were on TV, succeeding because of ... personality. There have been other review shows, before and since, and none of them captured the lightning like these 2 did, becoming cultural icons over their time together. They were like a vaudeville comedy team... 2 mismatched fellows, hitting each other with cream pies. The short fat one, having once written a screenplay for Russ Meyers, had an affection for genre films. The tall bald one had a more ivy-league persona and championed esoteric art films. Not only physically opposite, and aesthetically at odds, they both kept their regular columns for their rival newspapers, so they were in regular head-to-head direct competition for readers. And though they claimed to be friends, you could always see the tension, whether it was Siskel rolling his eyes over Ebert's over-enthusiastic support of some crass action film, or Ebert's interrupting zingers in response to Siskel's pedantic props to Merchant/Ivory, their was always some friction in the air. But some grudging respect, too, and when they agreed on a film (often for different reasons), they would enthuse together, riffing off each others excitement, and for a brief moment you could see their shared fraternal affection. Roger was never the same after Gene died. He continued the show with an idiot (something Roeper) who he clearly did not much respect. He was jousting with a mannequin, and it didn't bring out the best in him. S'long Roger, thanks for all the fish.

RealityChuck Apr 05 2013 01:45 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Carmine Infantino, comic book artist best known for his work on the silver age Flash, Batman (in the 60s), Deadman (though Neil Adams is more associated with the character; Infantino created him, though), and many other DC comics of the 60s. He was publisher at DC in the late 60s and 70s. Infantino created many of the Flash's memorable villains and created a new style to show his speed. He revamped Batman and dropped the sillier aspects of the 50s strip. Among characters created by him were Grodd, Mirror Master, Wally West/Kid Flash, Barbara Gordon and many more. With Gardner F. Fox, he created the "Earth-2" concept that allowed golden age heroes to coexist with those of the silver age.

Edgy MD Apr 05 2013 02:19 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Worked with Frank Springer in the nineties on The Adventures of Ford Fairlane.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 06 2013 05:56 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

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Gwreck Apr 08 2013 06:19 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Margaret Thatcher, 87

The Second Spitter Apr 08 2013 06:32 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

My entire High School alma meter will be in mourning. In fact, quotes are already coming in: She was like a mother to me.

metirish Apr 08 2013 06:41 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Fucking trollop

Frayed Knot Apr 08 2013 07:02 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Somewhere Mikhail Gorbachev is saying; "Ha ... Thatcher, Reagan, John-Paul II, I out-lasted you all!!"

The Second Spitter Apr 08 2013 07:15 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

metirish wrote: Fucking trollop Have to say: It's been a long-time since I laughed this hard on Crane Pool.

Edgy MD Apr 08 2013 07:39 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Elvis Costello wrote: Well, I hope I don't die too soon I pray the Lord my soul to save Oh I'll be a good boy, Im trying so hard to behave Because there's one thing I know, I'd like to live Long enough to savour That's when they finally put you in the ground I'll stand on your grave and tramp the dirt down Your move, Declan.

smg58 Apr 08 2013 07:42 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I was wondering who would bring that song up.

Mets – Willets Point Apr 08 2013 08:53 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

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Chad Ochoseis Apr 08 2013 09:20 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

...and I was wondering who would bring that song up. There's a Twitter campaign and an e-petition opposing a state funeral, on the grounds that, well, she would have believed that the private sector would bury her more efficiently.

Vic Sage Apr 08 2013 09:49 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

"Merry Christmas Maggie Thatcher" (Music by Elton John, Lyrics by Lee Hall, from BILLY ELLIOT) Can you hear it in the distance Can you sense it far away Is it old Rudolph the reindeer Is it Santa on his sleigh It's heading up to Easington It's coming down the Tyne Oh it's bloody Maggie Thatcher And Michael Heseltine Chorus: So merry Christmas Maggie Thatcher May God's love be with you We all sing together in one breath Merry Christmas Maggie Thatcher We all celebrate today 'Cause it's one day closer to your death They've come to raid your stockings And to steal your Christmas pud But don't be too downhearted It's all for your own good The economic infrastructure Must be swept away To make way for call centers And lower rates of pay [Chorus] And they've brought their fascist boot boys And they've brought the boys in blue And the whole Trade Union Congress Will be at the party too And they'll all hold hands together All standing in a line 'Cause they're privatizing Santa This merry Christmas time [Chorus 2x] Oh my darling, oh my darling, oh my darling Heseltine You're a tosser, you're a tosser And you're just a Tory Swine

batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2013 10:20 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Sinead O'Connor Black Boys on Mopeds Margaret Thatcher on TV Shocked by the deaths that took place in Beijing It seems strange that she should be offended The same orders are given by her I've said this before now You said I was childish and you'll say it now "Remember what I told you If they hated me they will hate you" England's not the mythical land of Madame George and roses It's the home of police who kill black boys on mopeds And I love my boy and that's why I'm leaving I don't want him to be aware that there's Any such thing as grieving Young mother down at Smithfield 5 am, looking for food for her kids In her arms she holds three cold babies And the first word that they learned was "please" These are dangerous days To say what you feel is to dig your own grave "Remember what I told you If you were of the world they would love you" England's not the mythical land of Madame George and roses It's the home of police who kill blacks boys on mopeds And I love my boy and that's why I'm leaving I don't want him to be aware that there's Any such thing as grieving. [youtube]zqHvAC-mDQg[/youtube] The Iron Lady as Anti-Muse By A.O. SCOTT Published: September 23, 2011 In the endlessly popular musical “Billy Elliot,” the villain is played not by an actor but by a larger-than-life puppet with a gigantic head, an effigy of the kind that sometimes still appears at European protest rallies. This one has a beaked nose, a pronounced overbite and upswept blond hair, a visage immediately familiar to anyone who remembers the 1980s, and one that theatergoers — paying $100 a ticket for a dose of solidarity with the beleaguered British proletariat in the age of late capitalism — are eager to boo. “Who was that lady?” one of my children asked as we departed a recent matinee performance, not having recognized the Iron Lady. Kids these days! How could they not know Margaret Thatcher? But then again, why would they? The common knowledge of one generation becomes esoterica in the next, to be dug out of history textbooks, Wikipedia or Dad’s overloaded brain. “Well, she was prime minister of Britain in the ’80s,” I began, and as I rambled through an impromptu lecture — watching their eyes glaze over as I botched the chronology of the Falklands War and triumphantly retrieved the names Arthur Scargill and Michael Heseltine from the memory hole — I was startled to discover how much I seemed to know about Mrs. Thatcher, and how much, in an odd way, she meant to me. Her influence asserted itself when I was in my teens and left a permanent stamp on the person I would become. I should clarify that I am not British, and that my interest in the party politics of the United Kingdom is almost as meager as my enthusiasm for its royal weddings. And though I was a college student during part of Thatcher’s tenure at 10 Downing Street (including the years of the bitter coal-miners’ strike that is the backdrop of both the film and the stage versions of “Billy Elliot”), I was not one of those proud undergraduate conservatives with a picture of Ronald Reagan on the dorm-room wall, a marked-up copy of Friedrich von Hayek’s “Road to Serfdom” on the nightstand and a think-tank internship lined up after graduation. I was, instead, an earnest poseur who combed the import bins of record stores and sought out movies about unhappy people with bad teeth and impenetrable accents — in short, an aesthetic Anglophile particularly drawn to the art and literature of frustration and self-loathing that flourished in the Thatcher years. She seemed to be the negative inspiration for everything that inspired me: the romantic anger of the Clash, the analytical fury of Gang of Four, the apocalyptic wit of Martin Amis, the decadent, multiculturalist ardor of “My Beautiful Laundrette” and “Sammy and Rosie Get Laid.” And also, more directly, she was the funniest, most belligerent puppet on “Spitting Image,” that brilliant lost link between “The Muppet Show” and “The Daily Show.” When she finally stepped — or as they say in Britain, stood — down as prime minister, “Spitting Image” gave her a fitting send-off, with her puppet double singing a version of “My Way” that remains both horrifying and weirdly touching. The actual Margaret Thatcher, reportedly suffering from Alzheimer’s disease, has retired from public life. But like Reagan, her great friend and ideological soul mate, she has had a robust political afterlife, her legacy a perpetual subject of revision and debate. Much of the American right is now vocally if not avowedly Thatcherite in its glorification of the market, its demonization of the welfare state and its hostility to public-sector unions. When Thatcher declined to meet with Sarah Palin last spring, she denied Palin a publicity coup and robbed countless hacks and headline writers of a chance to drag out the only morsel of Karl Marx anyone bothers to cite anymore: the bit from “The 18th Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte” about history repeating itself first as tragedy, then as farce. This summer’s riots in England brought a similar sense of dreary déjà vu, coming as they did almost exactly 30 years after the disturbances (in London, Leeds, Liverpool and Birmingham) that marked the first major domestic crisis of Thatcher’s rule. The soundtrack was missing this time around — the postpunk and reggae that gave that earlier rebellion, at least as witnessed from afar, a touch of romance. Now we had a spectacle of nihilism without aspiration, rage without righteousness, and the official response was almost as dispiriting as the riots themselves. David Cameron calling for law and order looked like a petulant boarding-school prefect, when what was needed was a stern and uncompromising headmistress. Cameron, fairly or not, is likely to be dogged by the slogan “hug a hoodie” and by the spectacle of his notional “big society” shrunk by austerity and dented by anarchy. Thatcher famously dismissed the very idea of society as a nanny-state fantasy — “there is no such thing” — and no offer of a hug could be inferred from her signature phrase, uttered during an early wave of popular discontent with her policies: “The lady’s not for turning.” In a few months, movie audiences will be able to hear those words in the voice of Meryl Streep, as Lady Thatcher receives the bio-pic treatment in “The Iron Lady.” Directed by Phyllida Lloyd (“Mamma Mia!”) and distributed in North America by the Weinstein Company — which brilliantly exploited the American fascination with British power when it turned “The King’s Speech” into an unlikely blockbuster — “The Iron Lady” is sure to spark a fresh round of argument about its heroine’s personal life and political career. Was she a feminist heroine or a reactionary monster? Apostle of liberty or avatar of selfishness? Or all of the above? The Streepified Thatcher may well become, like the letter-perfect Julia Child of “Julie & Julia” and the plausibly deniable Anna Wintour of “The Devil Wears Prada,” a more vivid and accessible version of the real thing. But however truthfully “The Iron Lady” represents Thatcher’s personal life and political career, it is quite unlikely that any film could properly register her impact as a cultural figure. And this is partly because those seismic readings were taken in real time, recorded on records and in movies and the pages of novels. The Thatcher years were a time of remarkable cultural ferment, in which the energies of an extraordinarily diverse roster of musicians, novelists, playwrights, critics and filmmakers — to say nothing of television comedians and puppeteers — were unleashed in opposition, glum and passionate, explicit and overt, to the prime minister herself. You may say that this kind of thing is not unusual. In Western democracies in the 20th century, the creative class has tended to lean to the left and to find its outraged voice when conservatives are in power. (It discovers its capacity for disappointment as soon as the other side wins.) The presidencies of Reagan, George W. Bush and especially Richard Nixon provide plentiful evidence of this counterpoint. It is also true that, in the modern age of general celebrity and media-dominated politics, heads of state have a way of becoming fixtures of popular culture, shorthand embodiments of their time. So John F. Kennedy, in spite of his narrow margin of victory and slim record of accomplishment, continues to symbolize the glamour and promise of the early 1960s, much as he did at the time, even before his death gave this association a tragic and permanent stamp. Thatcher is different, and not only by virtue of her domineering personality. Her ascendancy was a result of tensions and contradictions within British society that also produced a singularly vibrant culture of opposition. Those forces predated her 1979 election: punk rock, realist television dramas, agitprop theater and caustically satirical fiction were all features of the earlier ’70s, when the country was governed by Edward Heath and James Callaghan, two of the least charismatic statesmen in modern European history. But Thatcher deepened and sharpened the contradictions. Her impatient, confrontational populism can be seen as a reaction against the disorder amplified and travestied by punk, but her impatience with decorum and hypocrisy, her assault on customs and institutions, was itself a form of punk. Punk was dead by the time she took office. Its iconoclastic fury mutated into the Manchester melancholy later popularized by Joy Division and the Smiths and into the abrasive dialectics of Gang of Four, whose 1979 album “Entertainment!” remains the most incisive expression of the political impotence and creative ingenuity that Thatcher provoked. The band’s name, the cover art (comic-strip panels turning a scene from a western into a tableau of imperialism) and the lyrics bespoke a clever brand of Marxism, which the record’s title and the infectious, jagged beats only partly undermined. The album was a trenchant critique of the commodity form in the form of an irresistible commodity. It told a story of alienation and empty consumerism that you couldn’t get out of your head: “this heaven gives me migraine.” This was not protest music. There was some of that around, but much of it tended to be either overwrought or halfhearted. Or both: the signature anti-Thatcher ballad of the 1980s is probably Elvis Costello’s “Tramp the Dirt Down,” released in the last year of her term and in no small part a hymn to its own ineffectuality. The best the speaker can manage is to look forward to her death and to assess her legacy with the help of some dubious rhymes: “When England was the whore of the world, Margaret was her madam/And the future was as bright and as clear as the black tar macadam.” More characteristic, including of Costello himself at his best, was a critical intensity, a ruthless and creative anatomy of problems, individual and collective, coupled with skepticism about the possibility of solutions. This kind of passionate, brainy almost-nihilism has held up rather well, at least to my aging ears and sensibility. The tensions and contradictions that propelled Thatcher’s rise and fueled the eloquent, impotent resistance to her rule have not gone away. You can see them in “Billy Elliot,” which, for all its bitterness at Thatcher’s war against the working class, also celebrates the individualism, the melting away of class distinctions, that even Martin Amis eventually admitted was a large part of her legacy. Billy, the coal miner’s son from County Durham, may have some kinship with Maggie, the grocer’s daughter from Grantham, who also insisted on going where British society told her she did not belong. Once she arrived, she was ruthless, combative and divisive. As Margaret Thatcher recedes into history, perhaps her image will soften, as happens to even the most consequential and controversial political leaders. That would be a shame. She was both admired and hated, and it was the people who hated her — and whose contempt she was happy to cultivate — who built her best and most durable monument. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/25/magaz ... d=all&_r=0

Mets – Willets Point Apr 08 2013 10:28 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

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Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2013 11:07 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Annette Funicello, 70.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2013 11:57 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Damn Skippy!

Mets – Willets Point Apr 08 2013 12:11 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

She's someone I'd thought had already departed. I suppose there will be a big beach party in the sky.

Edgy MD Apr 08 2013 12:14 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Annette Funicello is no anti-muse. It's funny to look at now, as it seemed more innocent, but she was the model for the Disney machine's process decades later to develop spunky youth girl protagonists, only to set them up for the real cash killing as young adult sexpots, whose appeal is only amplified by the wholesome image of a few years before. Fortunately, they seemingly did it without turning her into a monster and leaving human wreckage in their wake like they do now.

G-Fafif Apr 08 2013 12:31 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

[youtube:3des5b01]f8sKlyJVtxM[/youtube:3des5b01] Annette parodying herself 25 years later: Way better a movie than it had a right to be.

MFS62 Apr 08 2013 09:13 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Meryl Streep did Thatcher as well as Thatcher, maybe better. But to guys who used to watch her, there was only one Annette. RIP to both of them. Later

metirish Apr 09 2013 06:27 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

People all over Britain "mourn" the loss http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... reets.html http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013 ... th-parties

Edgy MD Apr 09 2013 08:02 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

How embarrassing.

Frayed Knot Apr 09 2013 09:09 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Not to mention how it's been such a long time to remain so bitter.

Edgy MD Apr 09 2013 09:32 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I'll guess Gorbachev Head-Wound Guy and his cutieslice have lived their whole lives in the post-Thatcher era.

Mets – Willets Point Apr 09 2013 10:23 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Reminiscent of the response to the death of Osama Bin Laden in the US.

metirish Apr 09 2013 11:38 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Mets – Willets Point wrote: Reminiscent of the response to the death of Osama Bin Laden in the US. The response in her own country is telling when compared to the glowing fawning of the likes of the NY Times....you have sworn she were an ex president with the nytimes.com coverage yesterday when news broke. Of course she is well regarded over here what with the "special relationship" and all. A gallery of front pages in the UK. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/gall ... 48&index=0 I won't celebrate her death nor will I mourn it....she was a hateful person.

Mets – Willets Point Apr 11 2013 12:35 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Here's a more positive response from Thatcher opponents to put their money where their mouth is: Margaret Thatcher has died. We want to take the moment when our country is remembering her legacy, to remember the people her government hurt - people who don’t get pull-out supplements in national newspapers. People who don’t get ceremonial funerals in St Paul's Cathedral. The people her apologists forget, or want to forget. Margaret Thatcher's last years were spent coping with dementia, a terrible illness. If, like us, you were disgusted by how she treated the least well off in Britain and around the world, the old line about not wishing something on your worst enemies still applies. We can’t help but think it’s pretty lousy to celebrate or gloat over anyone’s suffering and death and we don’t want anyone else to do it either. We just want to place front and centre people who had no place in the Thatcherite worldview. And we want to do that in a way that can actually do some good. You can help us by donating to the excellent charities we have chosen to represent a fraction of them – the homeless, miners’ families, gay teenagers, Hillsborough survivors and South African victims of the Apartheid regime. Nothing is stopping you doing more or taking the spirit of the Don’t Hate, Donate campaign in your own direction. Thank you so much for your support!

Edgy MD Apr 12 2013 09:19 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Is death great or what?

sharpie Apr 12 2013 11:14 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Jonathan Winters, 87.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 12 2013 11:30 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Edgy MD wrote: Is death great or what? That was funny. RIP, Jonathan

Edgy MD Apr 12 2013 11:30 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Well, wow. That's a long time to be that crazy.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 12 2013 11:31 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Perennial winner of my brain's annual He's Not Dead Already? Award. RIP, you goofy, goofy bastard.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 12 2013 11:35 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

The cast of It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World is a little less alive than it had been. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19053

Edgy MD Apr 12 2013 03:52 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

MFS62 Apr 12 2013 08:48 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

John's role that I most enjoyed was as the "Beloved Reverend" in the movie "The Loved One". It was about the funeral industry in L.A. There were some parts ot the movie where is is very obvious that his lines had to be dubbed in post production. I wish I knew lip reading. RIP. Later

seawolf17 Apr 13 2013 02:49 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

From the "still alive thread": seawolf17 wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: Jonathan Winters (87) Much like the late Phyllis Diller, the late Jerry Reed, and the not-late Globetrotters, all best known for their work on "The New Scooby Doo Movies."

Edgy MD Apr 16 2013 02:58 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Did Pat Summerall ever appear in Scooby-Doo?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 18 2013 08:11 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Scott Miller of Game Theory and the Loud Family. This is a good song from 1985, I don't recall if it made the Edgy 300 that year. [youtube:mqhv6vj8]oJ2Cdw8THX8[/youtube:mqhv6vj8]

seawolf17 Apr 18 2013 08:36 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Had to click through their Wikipedia page, but I definitely remembered one Loud Family song: http://www.amazon.com/Take-Me-Down/dp/B000TPTY0S And incredibly, it's the only song in the history of music that's not on YouTube.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 18 2013 08:42 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I'm streaming the Loud Family's PLANTS AND BIRDS AND ROCKS AND THINGS right now, and I have to say, it's pretty great. Miller also wrote about music, little capsule reviews of songs: [url]http://books.google.com/books?id=Aduy1H1mUx0C&pg=PA102#v=onepage&q&f=false

Edgy MD Apr 18 2013 08:49 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Hadn't even heard of them until later, probably from you.

seawolf17 Apr 18 2013 08:53 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

[youtube:xxu84696]LdWns34lbaA[/youtube:xxu84696]

seawolf17 Apr 19 2013 08:41 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Storm Thorgerson, who made some of the most iconic album covers of all time. (Plus, I'm told, a few records by Pink Floyd.)

TransMonk Apr 19 2013 08:57 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

RealityChuck Apr 19 2013 02:13 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 22 2013 05:11 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Chrissie "I Touch Myself" Amphlett. Had MS and cancer. How hard did the Divinyls rock? This hard. [youtube:29uhwkdy]q2yKbcyJGWE[/youtube:29uhwkdy]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 22 2013 06:44 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

/Sad devil horns, while masturbating

Edgy MD Apr 22 2013 07:01 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Yeah, I was just gonna post that, but got scooped as usual. Divynils were so much more than one-hit wonders lazy historians (you know who you are, Douglas Brinkley) have remembered them as. They were nu wave/power pop vets of eleven years by the time they scored stateside with that song about touching. By then, they had shrunk to two full-time members. Neither were they quite as plastic and disposable as their name implied. Aussie invasion classick from the Easybeats that was a staple of the Divynils' set. [youtube:q8sldpwx]OBG5wCIu-6I[/youtube:q8sldpwx]

G-Fafif Apr 22 2013 10:32 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Al Neuharth, who told "us" what "we" in the "USA" were thinking when he founded USA Today in 1982, 89.

Mets – Willets Point Apr 22 2013 02:56 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

This thread seems enormously long for April. And it gets longer as folk musician Richie Havens has died at the age of 72.

Edgy MD Apr 22 2013 03:00 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

News not to like in this thread.

Chad Ochoseis Apr 22 2013 03:19 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

This one makes me sad. He played a free concert at my (urban, heavily low-income) elementary school in 1975. None of us kids had any idea who he was, but he brought the place down. I'd always meant to send him a note of thanks as an adult to the effect of "yeah, kids don't forget these things, and you did good". And, of course, I never did.

sharpie Apr 22 2013 03:21 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Yes, this one is sad. Saw him about three years ago at Celebrate Brooklyn. An engaging, timeless performer. With Alvin Lee having passed recently, two memorable Woodstock performers are now gone. RIP, Richie.

Edgy MD Apr 22 2013 03:29 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Chad Ochoseis wrote: This one makes me sad. He played a free concert at my (urban, heavily low-income) elementary school in 1975. None of us kids had any idea who he was, but he brought the place down. I'd always meant to send him a note of thanks as an adult to the effect of "yeah, kids don't forget these things, and you did good". And, of course, I never did. Send it to his family. It's worth it. Must've been among the most-booked artist at My Father's Place. Either him or The David Bromberg Band. Also a regular on a folk/rock show hosted by Fr. Bill Ayres (a different Bill Ayres) that was sort of the genesis of the relationships that started the rock-against-hunger movement. He seemed to ascribe to the Harry Chapin 50-50 ethic of playing one show for himself, and the next show "for the other guy."

Frayed Knot Apr 22 2013 05:05 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Something from 'Havens' 'MIXED BAG' album (or maybe the whole thing) was reportedly the first thing played on WNEW-FM when they reformatted themselves to a rock format in 1967 Check out the varied song list from that record: "High Flyin' Bird" (Billy Edd Wheeler) – Wheeler was an appalachian-based country writer/singer; I mean this guy wrote coal mining songs and stuff "I Can't Make It Anymore" (Gordon Lightfoot) "Morning, Morning" (Tuli Kupferberg) "Adam" (Havens) – Havens didn't write a lot of stuff but he did occasionally "Follow" (Jerry Merrick) "Three Day Eternity" (Havens) "Sandy" (Jean Pierre Cousineau) "Handsome Johnny" (Lou Gossett, Havens) – Yes, THAT Lou Gossett "San Francisco Bay Blues" (Jesse Fuller) "Just Like a Woman" (Bob Dylan) "Eleanor Rigby" (John Lennon, Paul McCartney) Within ten years or so no radio station would play music written by such a diverse cast of characters much less have an artist cover the likes of Dylan, Lightfoot, Lennon/McC, Wheeler, etc all in one album. And then of course there was his unique sound and the dynamic performances (live and recorded) of these and other songs. Also a regular on a folk/rock show hosted by Fr. Bill Ayres (a different Bill Ayres) that was sort of the genesis of the relationships that started the rock-against-hunger movement. He seemed to ascribe to the Harry Chapin 50-50 ethic of playing one show for himself, and the next show "for the other guy." And the late Pete Fornatale, who worked with Ayres on the hunger campaign and numerous other projects, was a big fan and compatriot who named his folk-rock show 'Mixed Bag' in tribute to that Havens album.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 22 2013 05:11 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Great voice.

Edgy MD Apr 22 2013 06:21 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Great? Next to him, great is crap! Voice of Amtrak. I doubt I'll ever be able to ride the Metroliner without hearing his voice in my head.

Mets – Willets Point Apr 23 2013 05:13 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Allan Arbus, best known as a recurring character on M*A*S*, the psychiatrist Dr. Sidney Freedman, 95.

Frayed Knot Apr 23 2013 07:08 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Mets – Willets Point wrote: Allan Arbus, best known as a recurring character on M*A*S*, the psychiatrist Dr. Sidney Freedman, 95. Ninety-Five!?! - that makes him a full 15 - 20 years older than most of the rest of the cast (except for Harry Morgan). I wouldn't have guessed that large a gap.

Mets – Willets Point Apr 23 2013 07:21 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Frayed Knot wrote: Mets – Willets Point wrote: Allan Arbus, best known as a recurring character on M*A*S*H, the psychiatrist Dr. Sidney Freedman, 95. Ninety-Five!?! - that makes him a full 15 - 20 years older than most of the rest of the cast (except for Harry Morgan). I wouldn't have guessed that large a gap. I was surprised too. He would have been around 55-65 during his M*A*S*H years. I think he looked more like he was in his 40s-early 50s.

Fman99 Apr 23 2013 07:35 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: /Sad devil horns, while masturbating You're a complicated man.

Edgy MD Apr 23 2013 08:23 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

His was a fine characterization, but man, you knew when Sidney was appearing, you were in for a squishy Alan Alda M*A*S*H* episode.

Frayed Knot Apr 23 2013 09:00 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Edgy MD wrote: His was a fine characterization, but man, you knew when Sidney was appearing, you were in for a squishy Alan Alda M*A*S*H* episode. In the latter half of the series certainly.

SteveJRogers Apr 24 2013 01:41 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Edgy MD wrote: His was a fine characterization, but man, you knew when Sidney was a appearing, you were in for a squishy Alan Alda M*A*S*H* episode. Hmmmmm...considering his look, I wonder if that character was perhaps the basis for Frank Miller's celebrity quack in The Dark Knight Returns series that was trying to prove that Batman created his rouges gallery. He would then be killed by his patient, The Joker. Most likely a con-inky-dink, but considering Miller's political leanings...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 24 2013 02:20 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Fman99 wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: /Sad devil horns, while masturbating You're a complicated man. Friend, I contain multitudes. Which, y'know, is part of the reason I make so many "bathroom" visits.

SteveJRogers Apr 26 2013 08:33 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Country Music icon George Jones, has stopped loving her today... [youtube:2xdd0rzp]CYQViYm92hg[/youtube:2xdd0rzp]

Edgy MD Apr 26 2013 08:55 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I just tuned in on FaceBook and one in three people are making the same joke. It's a headline writing exercise: write a lede about a famous singer's death referencing one of their well-known hits. Harder than it seems, and usually you end up with lame forced stuff like "Sammy Hagar can no longer drive 55 or any other speed!" Old Lunchbucket report on the death of Robert Palmer: "Simply Unrevivable."

Mets – Willets Point Apr 26 2013 08:57 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I did something like that upon the death of Ray Charles ("He hit the road an won't come back no more").

MFS62 Apr 26 2013 09:30 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Or the (later proved a joke) story about when Willie Nelson's tour bus was involved in an accident and overturned, they were saying Wilie was found "On the road again". Later

Frayed Knot Apr 26 2013 09:54 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

It's a headline writing exercise: write a lede about a famous singer's death referencing one of their well-known hits. He stopped breathing air today ? George Jones is one of those, 'surprised he lasted this long' type of fellows.

TransMonk May 02 2013 07:34 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Chris "Mac Daddy" Kelly of an apparent drug overdose. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/0 ... 97360.html [youtube:1wfvop32]010KyIQjkTk[/youtube:1wfvop32]

Frayed Knot May 02 2013 07:36 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

No truth to the rumor that his death was hastened by the hospital putting the oxygen mask on backwards during emergency procedures.

metirish May 02 2013 07:43 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Frayed Knot wrote: No truth to the rumor that his death was hastened by the hospital putting the oxygen mask on backwards during emergency procedures. lol

Edgy MD May 02 2013 08:10 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Whoah. May starts nasty with a too-young-to-go guy. I've been listening to a chunk of Richie Havens recently. That guy never sold a song short, did he?

cooby May 02 2013 10:24 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Loved Kriss/Kross. That's too bad.

MFS62 May 02 2013 12:01 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Frayed Knot wrote: No truth to the rumor that his death was hastened by the hospital putting the oxygen mask on backwards during emergency procedures. BAM! Later

metsmarathon May 02 2013 01:11 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Frayed Knot wrote: No truth to the rumor that his death was hastened by the hospital putting the oxygen mask on backwards during emergency procedures. no, but his hospital gown was reversed.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 02 2013 01:15 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Coroner said he was diggity-diggity-dead.

MFS62 May 05 2013 01:30 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

The Nets. And PJ has been fired. Later

d'Kong76 May 05 2013 02:00 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

MFS62 wrote: And PJ has been fired. And sentenced to 20 years at The Gulag Archipelago ... this new owner don't fool around.

Edgy MD May 07 2013 11:54 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Ray Harryhausen, who hopefully won't be headed to an afterlife filled with creatures from his own imagination.

seawolf17 May 07 2013 12:15 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

And namesake of the restaurant from Monsters, Inc.

Mets – Willets Point May 07 2013 12:23 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Animated GIFs, the stop-motion of our time, pay tribute.

Vic Sage May 07 2013 01:41 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

i met him at I-Con once. A true gentleman, and one of the greatest artists in his field. (1949) Mighty Joe Young - George Willis's film, but Harryhausen was the tech that did most of the work (1953) The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms - invented new techniques on a low budget to put a dinosaur in NYC... (1955) It Came from Beneath the Sea - ...and a giant octopus on the west coast... (1957) 20 Million Miles to Earth -... and a giant Venusian lizard in Rome. (1958) The 7th Voyage of Sinbad - His first film in Technicolor, creating mythic creatures; and his first as a co-producer (1960) The 3 Worlds of Gulliver - matinee juvenalia (1961) Mysterious Island - Verne adaptation; Captain Nemo + Harryhausen = classic (1963) Jason and the Argonauts - his most popular film; mythology once again giving him his most dynamic palette (1964) First Men in the Moon - HG Wells adaptation; 1st time he used anamorphic (wide screen) lenses. only 1 monster... Boo! (1966) One Million Years B.C. - Raquel Welch in a fur bikini, and you want to know about the dinosaurs? (1969) The Valley of Gwangi - Best Cowboys v Dinosaurs movie ever! The only thing it needed was Raquel Welch in a fur bikini (or out of one). (1973) The Golden Voyage of Sinbad - his 2nd Sinbad movie, this time as full producer, and the best Sinbad ever! (1977) Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger - His least good Sinbad, with Patrick Wayne a swirling whirlpool of suck (1981) Clash of the Titans - His return to Greek mythology was a fitting farewell to feature films

Edgy MD May 07 2013 01:52 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Vic Sage wrote: (1977) Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger - His least good Sinbad, with Patrick Wayne a swirling whirlpool of suck Yeah, but Survivor rawked! Harryhausen was close friends with fellow electric imagination Ray Bradbury, and Bradbury uses fictionalizations of their younger selves as lead characters in a series of detective novels (Death Is a Lonely Business, A Graveyard for Lunatics, and Let's All Kill Constance) set in mid-century Hollywood. An elderly Bradbury reduced to assembly serial genre fiction would seem to be a sad turn, but I really dug them. (Well, I never read the third.)

Farmer Ted May 08 2013 01:11 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Jeanne Cooper, aka Katherine Chancellor on Y&R, age 82. Also known as Corbin Bernson's real-life momma. Mrs. Ted is devastated.

themetfairy May 08 2013 01:45 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Ms. Cooper was a great grande dame of daytime television. I can remember her going through a facelift in real life and on The Young and the Restless, which was pretty revolutionary stuff in the 70's. RIP to a larger than life personality.

G-Fafif May 08 2013 04:31 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Here's to you, Katherine Chancellor. Genoa City turns its lonely eyes to you.

Zvon May 08 2013 05:18 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

i met him at I-Con once. A true gentleman, and one of the greatest artists in his field. (1949) Mighty Joe Young - George Willis's film, but Harryhausen was the tech that did most of the work (1953) The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms - invented new techniques on a low budget to put a dinosaur in NYC... (1955) It Came from Beneath the Sea - ...and a giant octopus on the west coast... (1957) 20 Million Miles to Earth -... and a giant Venusian lizard in Rome. (1958) The 7th Voyage of Sinbad - His first film in Technicolor, creating mythic creatures; and his first as a co-producer (1960) The 3 Worlds of Gulliver - matinee juvenalia (1961) Mysterious Island - Verne adaptation; Captain Nemo + Harryhausen = classic (1963) Jason and the Argonauts - his most popular film; mythology once again giving him his most dynamic palette (1964) First Men in the Moon - HG Wells adaptation; 1st time he used anamorphic (wide screen) lenses. only 1 monster... Boo! (1966) One Million Years B.C. - Raquel Welch in a fur bikini, and you want to know about the dinosaurs? (1969) The Valley of Gwangi - Best Cowboys v Dinosaurs movie ever! The only thing it needed was Raquel Welch in a fur bikini (or out of one). (1973) The Golden Voyage of Sinbad - his 2nd Sinbad movie, this time as full producer, and the best Sinbad ever! (1977) Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger - His least good Sinbad, with Patrick Wayne a swirling whirlpool of suck (1981) Clash of the Titans - His return to Greek mythology was a fitting farewell to feature films I was a HUGE fan. Huge influence. The Valley Of The Gwangi: First of his I saw first run and in a theater. Eleven year old me thought this was gonna win koolestbestest picture at the Academy Awards. My brothers and I played Gwangi for months. The movie poster alone was classic! I was drawing dinos for a while after that.

Edgy MD May 11 2013 07:33 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

George Sauer, patron saint of those who grind on in an industry they've come to hate. Of course he had early-onset Alzheimer's. Of course he did. George Sauer, Jets Receiver and Rebel, Is Dead at 69 By FRANK LITSKY Published: May 10, 2013 George Sauer, who as a wide receiver for the Jets played a pivotal role in the team’s stunning victory in Super Bowl III, and who later quit professional football because he considered it dehumanizing, died on Tuesday in Westerville, Ohio. He was 69. Sauer catching a pass over the Raiders’ Willie Brown in 1969, the season he helped the Jets win Super Bowl III. His sister, Dana Keifer, confirmed the death, saying the cause was congestive heart failure. She said he had been struggling with Alzheimer’s disease for some time. The Baltimore Colts were three-touchdown favorites when they faced the Jets in the 1969 Super Bowl, in Miami, but they lost, 16-7, in one of the great upsets in pro football history. A big factor was the stellar play of Jets quarterback Joe Namath, who had brashly guaranteed a victory. Sauer was another. The Jets were not only underdogs to a powerful Baltimore team, but they were also hobbled when Don Maynard, their speedy flanker and favorite Namath target, pulled a hamstring muscle. Maynard caught no passes that day. But Sauer, a split end who lacked great speed but ran textbook pass patterns, caught eight. Sauer was a four-time All-Star in the American Football League. He played for the Jets in the A.F.L. and then the N.F.L. from 1965 through 1970, appearing in 84 games and catching 309 passes for 4,965 yards and 28 touchdowns. He retired from the N.F.L. at the end of the 1970 season at 27, at the peak of his career (though he would return briefly to the game with short-lived rival leagues). He had grown to hate the life of a pro football player, he said. “When you get to the college and professional levels, the coaches still treat you as an adolescent,” he said in an interview in 1971 with the Institute for the Study of Sport and Society. “They know damn well that you were never given a chance to become responsible or self-disciplined. Even in the pros, you were told when to go to bed, when to turn your lights off, when to wake up, when to eat and what to eat. You even have to live and eat together like you were in a boys’ camp.” Ten years later, he remained just as disillusioned. In an interview with The New York Times, he called professional football “a grotesque business” designed to “mold you into someone easy to manipulate.” His attitude did not surprise his father, George H. Sauer Sr., a former college coach and later a pro football executive. “He definitely does not like to be regimented,” he said of his son. George Henry Sauer Jr. was born to George and Lillian Sauer on Nov. 10, 1943, in Sheboygan, Wis., and raised in Waco, Tex. At 6 feet 2 inches and 195 pounds, he was an outstanding receiver at the University of Texas, where he gave up premedical studies because he did not have time for both that and football. He was a member of Texas teams that went undefeated in 1963-64, winning the Cotton Bowl, and that defeated Alabama in the 1965 Orange Bowl. He skipped his last year of college eligibility and signed with the Jets, where his father was the player personnel director. Sauer was married and divorced several times. His sister, Ms. Keifer, is his only immediate survivor. After leaving the Jets, Sauer played for the New York Stars and the Charlotte Hornets of the short-lived World Football League in 1974. In 1979, he was an assistant coach with the Carolina Chargers of the American Football Association. He also furthered an interest in writing, turning out novels, poetry and book reviews. “He didn’t want to be anything but a poet and a writer,” John Dockery, a former Jets teammate and roommate during road games, recalled in a 2008 interview, “but he was given skills he didn’t want. He wanted something else. He walked away from the money, from everything, because it was too painful for him.” Sauer expressed his misgivings about the football life in an article in The Times in 1983. “My passion for the game was not sufficient,” he wrote. “Football is an ambiguous sport, depending both on grace and violence. It both glorifies and destroys bodies. At the time, I could not reconcile the apparent inconsistency. I care even less about being a public person. You stick out too much, the world enlarges around you to dangerous proportions, and you are too evident to too many others. There is a vulnerability in this and, oddly enough, some guilt involved in standing out.” Daniel E. Slotnik contributed reporting.

Swan Swan H May 11 2013 08:39 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Actress, singer and activist Lena Horne, 92.

Frayed Knot May 11 2013 09:11 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Swan Swan H wrote: Actress, singer and activist Lena Horne, 92. So that's why there's no sun up in the sky today. No wonder.

sharpie May 11 2013 01:40 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Yes, that was sad about Lena Horne...two years ago. http://www.inquisitr.com/657419/lena-ho ... -92-again/

Swan Swan H May 11 2013 03:21 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Mea culpa. If you can't trust the Sacramento Bee, who can you trust?

Edgy MD May 11 2013 05:35 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Social media has accidentally started celebrity death hoaxes in the past (sometimes based on errant or false reports), “killing off” Cher, Tony Yayo, Denzel Washington, Morgan Freeman, and many more. But as Tracy Clayton notes, this might be the first time a celebrity has been killed off on social media after death. How soon they forget Bob Denver, who you just know has a third death in him.

Ashie62 May 11 2013 08:25 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

George Sauer ran great routes and handsss...Saved Namath even more Ints...He will be missed...

G-Fafif May 13 2013 05:44 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Dr. Joyce Brothers, who played a psychologist on TV, 85.

themetfairy May 13 2013 05:55 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

She came into the limelight because of her knowledge of boxing on the 64,000 question. A woman who knew about boxing was even more of an oddity at that time than a woman with a Ph.D. RIP Dr. Brothers. You changed people's perceptions, which was a hard thing to do at the time.

Edgy MD May 13 2013 06:11 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Bring peace to our fathers, good health to our mothers And please don't make me sweat like Dr. Joyce Brothers!

Swan Swan H May 16 2013 03:03 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

NASCAR racer and perennial punchline Dick Trickle, suicide.

MFS62 May 16 2013 03:35 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Swan Swan H wrote: NASCAR racer and perennial punchline Dick Trickle, suicide. He asked someone how to get to the local 7-11. They told him he'd have to make two right turns, and he couldn't handle the stress. LAter

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 17 2013 08:45 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Gunshot. Huh. Would have guessed "overdose of tetracycline."

metirish May 17 2013 08:37 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Ken Venturi : dead at 82. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Venturi there was plenty I din't know about a man i associate with CBS golf.

sharpie May 20 2013 07:43 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Doors keyboardist, Ray Manzarek, 74. http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/ ... -at-74/?hp

Frayed Knot May 20 2013 07:52 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I wish that that would be untrue.

G-Fafif May 22 2013 06:53 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Alan O'Day, 72. A hitmaker on both sides of the groove, writing and recording. [youtube]G-xRMw0NyW0[/youtube] [youtube]UQKyGt_I5L4[/youtube] [youtube]9IEemZ6-LZc[/youtube]

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 22 2013 07:27 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Whoa, the guy who wrote rock n' roll heaven is dead. Mind blown! PS: Always liked the cheesy "Undercover Angel"

Edgy MD May 22 2013 07:38 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Cheesy "Undercover Angel." Like. "Rock 'n' Roll Heaven." Not summuch. [list:3bfwogk4]Remember "Bad, Bad Leroy Brown"? Hey Jimmy touched us with that song[/list:u:3bfwogk4] One of the all-time great forced lyrics. That's all you can say about that guy? That song's a lot of things, but "touching" ain't really one of 'em. Still, now I want to write an alternative-lyric version that just about Alan O'Day. Hope he meets his undercover angel on the other side.

G-Fafif May 22 2013 07:51 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

"Rock 'N' Roll Heaven '13" would run a lot longer, given time and demographics. I wonder when the deaths of stars of the "rock era," per Casey Kasem, stopped seeming automatically tragic for the "too young" aspect and began feeling inevitable. Not the Amy Winehouses but the, well, Ray Manzareks. In any event, I remember being impressed at how up to date it seemed. Bobby Darin wasn't gone all that long by the summer of '74. "Undercover Angel" and the similarly wonderful "WTF?" "Lonely Boy" by Andrew Gold rode the charts together and are forever conflated with each other as well as the Wednesday Night Massacre. "Angel In Your Arms" by Hot, "Ariel" by Dean Friedman and "Couldn't Get It Right" by the Climax Blues Band also carry June 15, 1977, implications for me. "Angie Baby" was spooky then, spooky now.

batmagadanleadoff May 22 2013 09:03 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I bought the Angie Baby 45 RPM, along with the Ohio Players' Fire 45 one day at Sam Goody. Those were, likely, the only 45 RPM's I ever purchased in my life. Odd purchases in hindsight, because those songs were not representative of the pop music I would soon begin listening to with great interest.

G-Fafif May 23 2013 11:12 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Leonard Marsh, last surviving co-founder of Snapple, 80. Interviewed him long ago; shockingly found a quote from that story in the Wall Street Journal today: "We built a better mousetrap, nothing more," Mr. Marsh told Beverage World in 1993. "Tea was around for many years. We made it better." Snapple was a sensation and Marsh was a mensch.

metirish May 23 2013 11:26 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

When I first came to NY in 1994 I had never heard of snapple but around that time I remember Howard Stern(had never heard of him either) was pushing the product relentlessly. anyway Henri Dutilleux, Modernist Composer, Dies at 97 looks like our Jeff photoshopped.

Benjamin Grimm May 23 2013 11:31 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

It looks like he's being portrayed by a middle-aged Dustin Hoffman.

Edgy MD May 23 2013 11:41 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Just gave a listen to "Angie, Baby." Creepy, deepy.

Mets – Willets Point May 23 2013 11:45 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

metirish wrote: looks like our Jeff photoshopped. Jeff is everywhere.

Mets – Willets Point May 23 2013 12:10 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

It appears that Bettie Page is getting the Lena Horne treatment on some corners of the internet today.

Edgy MD May 23 2013 12:14 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Henri Dutilleux I learned that guy's notation system in college. One mook in my class heard the teacher perform work composed by Dutilleux in his notation scheme --- harmonic clashes and rhythmic variance --- and made a snorting, "Jeez, that's music?" comment. The teacher raised an eyebrow, and said, "Well, yeah, but that's just one interpretation of what's on the paper." He played the same piece again, and made it sound like Beethoven.

Edgy MD May 23 2013 12:16 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

It appears that Bettie Page is getting the Lena Horne treatment on some corners of the internet today. Any excuse to post Bettie Page shots, I imagine. Tracy Lords will probably die six or eight times.

G-Fafif May 25 2013 09:24 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Pulitzer Prize winner and forever political reporter Haynes Johnson, 81.

Edgy MD May 25 2013 03:09 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Listened to Casey's countdown from this date in 1977 this afternoon. Got a nice dose of "Undercover Angel" with a side dose of "Lonely Boy." Something funny in retrospect listening to "UA." There's a quality in the guitars and backup vocals that could come off of a Nashville record. Sort of a cousin of the country-disco crossbreeding of "Convoy." Was there a Nashville disco hybrid scene?

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 25 2013 03:36 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Edgy MD wrote: Listened to Casey's countdown from this date in 1977 this afternoon. how?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 25 2013 07:50 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

It was in here. [Taps head] And in here. [Taps heart] That's the beauty of music. They can't get that from you. That's yours.

G-Fafif May 25 2013 11:19 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Listened to Casey's countdown from this date in 1977 this afternoon. how? Sirius XM 7, its '70s channel, plays an intact AT 40 (minus commercials) every weekend. It is a glorious time machine. The '80s channel (8) tried running the Caseys, but it wasn't quite the same, so now they have the surviving MTV VJs count down the Billboard Top 40 from this week in 198X. Still fun, but Martha, Nina, Mark and Alan will never be mistaken for radio personalities (no matter Goodman's background).

Mets – Willets Point May 26 2013 08:15 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I listened to America's Top 40 regularly ca. 1980-1983. I can still do a good Kasem impersonation if I say so myself.

MFS62 May 26 2013 09:28 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

There's a similar syndicated radio show polluting the airwaves these days. Its hosted by someone named Delilah. But, unlike Casey's show, hers tends to attract slightly older listeners telling their sad stories. Its like "Casey visits the trailer park". Later

Edgy MD May 27 2013 08:20 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I can't recommend the Casey rewind enough. The best part is him telling behind-the-music stories with some frankly awful details, with that fantastically engaging voice. Second best thing is his delivery of statistics.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 27 2013 10:17 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I didn't know you were so Sirius. I'm glad to know those tapes exist.

Edgy MD May 27 2013 03:29 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Got a Mazda with the Sirius hookup last year. Casey is the best bit and I always find a reason to be in the car every Saturday at noon. The things you learn. Led Zeppelin released "Trampled Under Foot" as a single? And it charted? Right in the middle of the disco backlash, the Zepp fans didn't know they were listening to disco and nobody played it like John Bonham. In 1977, Warner Brothers decided to create a mini-label for composers who performed --- probably not because they were into that singer/songwriter sound, but more because it was a good way to keep their favorite house writers happy. If we release O'Day's records, then he'll keep giving us music for The Spinners or Tavares or something. But O'Day was the first guy they signed, and "Undercover Angel" was his first release. Ka-ching!

RealityChuck May 30 2013 10:54 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Science fiction grand master Jack Vance. Vance is by far the most obscure of the great science fiction writers. He's been a major influence on the field (and even on gaming), but never had any one novel that could be pointed at as an entry point, and he often wrote multibook works that are daunting to anyone who didn't know how good he was. His big strength was his ability to create complex societies (usually slightly decadent) and worlds that were strange and wonderful. I actually haven't read much Vance, but read one of his earlier novels The Blue World recently. I was amazed at how he managed to take a basic concept -- a world without land -- and did far more with it than most authors can today, let alone back in 1966, when it was written. I also read his novel Emphyrio in high school. It was serialized in Galaxy, and I happened to finish it the week I was preparing for the English Regents. So I wrote an essay on the book, confident that the teacher had never read the book. :)

Vic Sage May 30 2013 01:03 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

i never read any of his work, but i always meant to.

Edgy MD May 30 2013 09:18 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Andrew Greeley, priest, sociologist, and racy pulp novelist, passes at 85. I never read his work, and never meant to. At least, I never read his fiction. I passingly followed his work as a social critic, as he seemed to have a broad following, but he seemed wrong as often is right.

Vic Sage May 31 2013 08:12 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

except when he told that young man to go west and grow with the nation... that was pretty good advice i think.

Edgy MD May 31 2013 11:55 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Yeah, but all the people in Seattle drowned.

G-Fafif Jun 01 2013 02:41 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Jean Stapleton, 90. Beloved Edith Bunker, plus a small role in Damn Yankees.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 01 2013 02:59 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Sad. She was the best dingbat ever.

Edgy MD Jun 01 2013 07:46 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

On the one hand, she was in Damn Yankees. On the other, she made Archie miss the Mets.

seawolf17 Jun 02 2013 07:40 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Harvey Korman, dead of a broken heart over today's Matt Harvey performance.

Chad Ochoseis Jun 03 2013 08:19 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Sen. Frank Lautenberg, 89

Edgy MD Jun 03 2013 12:35 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Boy the way that Alice played...

Edgy MD Jun 04 2013 02:26 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

"If singing was sissy stuff, we'd be missing a lot of good men in sports." Put it on the tombstone of the great Deacon Jones. [youtube:zmppmvg7]D9eB7-oLcMc[/youtube:zmppmvg7]

Zvon Jun 04 2013 02:45 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Edgy MD wrote: Boy the way that Alice played... She was great. When I read about her death I thought: didn't she die long ago? She didn't, but Edith did, and she was so good in that role that when Edith died on the show, it felt like someone I really knew died.

Valadius Jun 04 2013 08:23 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

So I'm watching The Odd Couple on TV, and the recently deceased Deacon Jones is guest-starring. Hell of a coincidence.

Frayed Knot Jun 04 2013 08:36 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Yeah, that's the TV show I remember him from. Turns out his name was David. I don't think it ever occurred to me that it wasn't actually Deacon.

MFS62 Jun 04 2013 09:32 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

My favorite Deacon Jones story. Bobby Mitchell was a fast running back for Washington. In a game against the Rams, he broke loose and was running downfield. Jones came across the field and ran stride for stride next to him for about 40 yards before tackling him. When asked about it after the game, Jones said, "I heard that cat was fast, and I wanted to see if ol' Deac could keep up with him". Later

G-Fafif Jun 06 2013 11:38 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Esther Williams, 91, swimmer, movie star and Joan Payson prototype of sorts in Take Me Out To The Ballgame.

Vic Sage Jun 06 2013 02:27 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

my dad loved her. He was a swimmer, too, and he always admired her... talent.

Mets – Willets Point Jun 07 2013 08:11 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Joe Marotta, 39, drowned while swimming in the ocean by the Outer Banks in North Carolina. We went to The College of William & Mary at the same time and when he sent me a Facebook friend request a few years back, I only vaguely remembered him. But I came to like him through his posts about his family, about his deep Catholic faith, memories of W&M, and just interesting observations he'd share. He was ordained as a deacons last fall and was beloved in his community. The worst part is that he leaves behind his wife and five children.

smg58 Jun 07 2013 11:51 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Sorry for your loss.

metirish Jun 07 2013 01:52 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

One we missed Jefferson Airplane drummer Joey Covington dies(car crash Tuesday) http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/musi ... s/2397233/

G-Fafif Jun 10 2013 05:48 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Doug Bailey, 79, founder of The Hotline, which used to be quoted like crazy by Beltway types pre-Twitter, Politco and all that. Remember him from Jerry Ford's election (not re-election) campaign via We Almost Made It, a book describing the incumbent's incredible surge from way back in summertime to almost catch Jimmy Carter. His firm was responsible for this ditty. If nothing else, a helluva year for campaign jingles on both sides. [youtube]Ue407RWDgl8[/youtube] Before founding The Hotline, Bailey handled a roster of clients right up Henry Francis's alley: Bailey's roster of clients included some of the best-known moderate Republicans elected in the 1960s and 1970s, including New York Gov. Nelson Rockefeller, then-Tennessee Gov. Lamar Alexander, New York City Mayor John Lindsay, Sens. Charles Percy of Illinois, John Danforth of Missouri, Howard Baker of Tennessee and Richard Lugar of Indiana. He met Deardourff, his long-time business partner, while working for Rockefeller's 1964 presidential campaign, according to a New York Times story on Deardourff's death in 2004.

Edgy MD Jun 10 2013 05:59 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Sorry to hear about Marotta, Willets. Father of five drowning is lousy.

cooby Jun 10 2013 06:48 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Mets – Willets Point wrote: Joe Marotta, 39, drowned while swimming in the ocean by the Outer Banks in North Carolina. We went to The College of William & Mary at the same time and when he sent me a Facebook friend request a few years back, I only vaguely remembered him. But I came to like him through his posts about his family, about his deep Catholic faith, memories of W&M, and just interesting observations he'd share. He was ordained as a deacons last fall and was beloved in his community. The worst part is that he leaves behind his wife and five children. Very sad. Makes you wonder why.

Mets – Willets Point Jun 11 2013 08:11 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Yeah, like I said I didn't know him very well, but this is really weighing heavy on my mind. Can't imagine what those kids are going through.

G-Fafif Jun 19 2013 01:24 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Dave Jennings, an all-time great punter for both the Giants and Jets and then an unsurpassed radio analyst on each of their broadcasts, 61, from Parkinson's Disease.

Swan Swan H Jun 19 2013 01:37 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I went out at lunchtime today, and Vin Scelsa reported that Slim Whitman had died at age 90. I had the video below open in another tab, and, I kid you not, when I went back to grab the URL there was a Google ad in the video window for gaymaturedating.com. Talk about focused marketing. [youtube]0FhQxZnSqc0[/youtube]

Edgy MD Jun 19 2013 02:32 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Nothing says gay mature dating like your avatar. This is my friend Mario, who faded so fast that I didn't get in to see him, and it's been tearing me up all week. Don't let that happen to you.

Frayed Knot Jun 19 2013 03:18 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

G-Fafif wrote: Dave Jennings, an all-time great punter for both the Giants and Jets and then an unsurpassed radio analyst on each of their broadcasts, 61, from Parkinson's Disease. The thing I remember about Jennings' announcing career is that he's probably the only guy I've heard doing football that seemed to actually know the rules of the game, as in all of them, not just the ones that every twelve year old knows or only the ones that affected his particular position back when he played. With P-b-P guys being hired for their voices and perceived 'Q' ratings, and jock/analysts for their name and their fame, the idea that either brand should put some study time into learning the rules probably never enters the network's viewpoint. Jennings so obviously did and that he, armed with both a decent voice and a jock pedigree, was never snatched up by a network for more national exposure (prior to the Parkinsons) was both shocking and thoroughly predictable.

G-Fafif Jun 19 2013 05:33 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

James Gandolfini, 51. Reportedly a heart attack. Geez. What an indelible character he created in Tony Soprano.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 19 2013 05:56 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Just 51. Getting out of the shadow of Tony Soprano wouldn't have been easy, but I'd imagine there was a LOT left in that bag of tricks.

Frayed Knot Jun 19 2013 06:40 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I bet most people would have guessed Gandolfini to be the better part of a decade older than 51. Being large & heavy & bald will tend to do that. 2nd person today younger than me that I've heard as having a fatal heart attack. Former HS classmate was the first. I think this all makes me officially old.

Fman99 Jun 19 2013 07:35 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Edgy MD wrote: Nothing says gay mature dating like your avatar. This is my friend Mario, who faded so fast that I didn't get in to see him, and it's been tearing me up all week. Don't let that happen to you. Sorry for the loss of your friend. You honor him with your words.

d'Kong76 Jun 19 2013 07:52 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Nicely written piece, Edge ... sorry about your friend.

Zvon Jun 19 2013 08:48 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Edgy MD wrote: Nothing says gay mature dating like your avatar. This is my friend Mario, who faded so fast that I didn't get in to see him, and it's been tearing me up all week. Don't let that happen to you. A beautiful salute and I feel your loss.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 19 2013 08:56 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Nice piece about Mario. Shocking to hear about Gandolfini, did anyone ever bring a TV character any more to life?

themetfairy Jun 19 2013 09:24 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Sorry about your friend.

metirish Jun 20 2013 06:36 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Zvon wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Nothing says gay mature dating like your avatar. This is my friend Mario, who faded so fast that I didn't get in to see him, and it's been tearing me up all week. Don't let that happen to you. A beautiful salute and I feel your loss. Very beautiful and touching.

metirish Jun 20 2013 06:46 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Absolutely shocking about Gandolfini , when my wife said to me the "guy" from the Soprano's died he was not the one that popped in to my mind first. Only 51,that was a surprise too.

Edgy MD Jun 20 2013 07:45 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I just gave Not Fade Away a shot. (Didn't make it.) Guessing he was ten years older would've felt generous.

smg58 Jun 20 2013 07:47 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Fman99 wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Nothing says gay mature dating like your avatar. This is my friend Mario, who faded so fast that I didn't get in to see him, and it's been tearing me up all week. Don't let that happen to you. Sorry for the loss of your friend. You honor him with your words. Agreed. I'm very sorry.

Edgy MD Jun 20 2013 07:54 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Thanks. Having trouble finding his (supposedly wealthy) family while his remains stay on ice.

MFS62 Jun 20 2013 08:10 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

G-Fafif wrote: James Gandolfini, 51. Reportedly a heart attack. Geez. What an indelible character he created in Tony Soprano. Not for nothin', the guy was a pretty good actor. Later

Ashie62 Jun 20 2013 04:28 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Dang good actor and RU football fanatic..

d'Kong76 Jun 20 2013 07:09 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Francessa said today the he told him he wasn't into sports. A caller told Mike he was the Gandolfini of sports talk radio. I nearly spit up in amusement.

Frayed Knot Jun 20 2013 07:28 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 21 2013 06:38 AM

ABC must have done 10 minutes of their half-hour (really more like 23 minutes) of national news tonight on Gandolfini. It was like a head of state had died or something. Not surprising to hear that Francesa was spending time on it seeing as how he pronounced himself to be the 'Sopranos' authority back when it was running. Plus the whole "he told me" line reinforces the idea that Mike knew him.

metirish Jun 21 2013 06:20 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Vince Flynn http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/book ... 7/2437951/

Ashie62 Jun 21 2013 12:04 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Kong76 wrote: Francessa said today the he told him he wasn't into sports. A caller told Mike he was the Gandolfini of sports talk radio. I nearly spit up in amusement. He was a significant donor to RU football and attended most home and road games. He was close to Schiano This sux..

TransMonk Jun 22 2013 08:16 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I missed Michael Hastings last week. Big loss.

G-Fafif Jun 23 2013 11:02 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Gary David Goldberg, TV impresario who made Michael J. Fox a star, from brain cancer, two days shy of 69. UBU sits.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 24 2013 07:18 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Bobby "Blue" Bland, soul-blues singer.

Edgy MD Jun 24 2013 07:51 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Good clip posted by Dave Alvin, but the sound isn't so hot, and it's kind of disappointing because it doesn't capture Bland in the environment Alvin describes. I imagine no existing clip does. Dave Alvin wrote: I saw the now sadly late Bobby Bland for the first time in 1971. The club was way over sold out and I was a kid shoved against a back wall. Women were pushing themselves through the windows (no exaggeration) to get in and screaming to be near him and reaching frantically to touch him. An amazing evening I'll never forget but he had thousands of nights like that. Like all my musical heroes, Mr Bland embraced the chitlin' circuit highway and the tough one nighters all the way until the end. Always classy, soulful and in touch with his audience, there were few like him then and there's less now. Rest In Peace Mr Blue. [youtube]Pn1lZP5uPXw[/youtube]

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 24 2013 08:06 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

He can sound like Sam Cooke and Ray Charles in the same song.

MFS62 Jun 24 2013 08:16 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Could. Later

G-Fafif Jun 26 2013 12:46 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Ken Levine with divine remembrance of Gary David Goldberg here.

TransMonk Jun 26 2013 07:39 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Alan Myers, Devo Drummer, Dies Cancer sucks.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 26 2013 08:39 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

bummer for the drummer.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 11 2013 01:17 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Peppi Marchello, singer of the Good Rats. Nobody mixed proto hair metal with jazz like these guys.

Vic Sage Jul 11 2013 02:30 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Ah, the GOOD RATS. They were a great Long Island-based blues-rock band, and they played Stony Brook often. I really liked them, particularly the album TASTY and its follow up, RAT CITY IN BLUE (i still have this one on vinyl). I remember them playing at FallFest on campus in 1982, and Peppi prowled the stage menacingly, playing air guitar on a baseball bat. Then he'd throw rubber rats into the crowd. WRITING THE PAGES ...You were power and strength A born leader of men Now you've come to the end of the end... S'long, Peppi, and thanks for all the fish.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 11 2013 05:00 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Good Rats were a fun band. They played my high school -- Alfred G. Berner in Massapequa -- and we thought it was the greatest thing ever. I always liked their live album, and was thrilled to hunt it down on CD years later. It seemed like the Good Rats, Zebra and Twisted Sister were kings of the Long Island bar band scene when I was in high school. Good times.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 11 2013 05:31 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

It's striking to hear how much like Marchello Dee Snider sounds, I'm sure he was influenced. I believe the name "Twisted Sister" came from a Good Rats song ("Don't Hate the Ones Who Bring You Rock & Roll") and they had at least one drummer in common. ... not sure if the band or the lyric came first ...

Frayed Knot Jul 12 2013 08:07 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Right Hand, Dead

TransMonk Jul 12 2013 08:08 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

BOC!!!

Frayed Knot Jul 20 2013 10:57 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Political reporter Helen Thomas - 92

Swan Swan H Jul 22 2013 12:18 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Actor Dennis Farina, 69 from a blood clot in his lung, not from being stabbed through the heart with a fucking pencil.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 23 2013 12:13 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

One of my favorites. I'm gonna feel bad about this, I'm going to feel sad, and then I'm going to get over it, get past it, y'know, do some things, fucking eat a sandwich.

G-Fafif Jul 23 2013 01:56 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Emile Griffith, 75, world champion middleweight. Earned one of his titles at Shea in 1967.

G-Fafif Jul 30 2013 05:59 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Eileen Brennan, 80, of Private Benjamin fame.

RealityChuck Jul 31 2013 09:20 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Poncie Ponce. If you're of a certain generation, you may remember him as a supporting actor in Hawaiian Eye back in the 60s. He also recorded an album. He also was well versed in the martial arts (though he didn't show it on TV) and ran a chain of Karate studios in LA.

G-Fafif Jul 31 2013 12:54 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Bill Scranton, 96, governor of Pennsylvania in the mid-1960s (that last name is no coincidence) and for a few shining moments presidential timber. He was going to be the Henry Francis Republican who reversed the Goldwater tide in 1964. (It didn't work.) Rick Perlstein on what Scranton represented: The dinosaurs are nearly extinct. One of the last of the liberal Republican giants, William Warren Scranton of Pennsylvania, died this week at the age of 96. Let us not so much eulogize the man. Let us eulogize the species. His aristocratic identity was announced by his name. William Warren Scranton: his ancestors founded the Pennsylvania town. William Warren Scranton: his mother was from the Warren family that sailed over on the Mayflower. From that Mayflower side, the liberal convictions came at the knee of his mother, who began picking for women's suffrage at the age of sixteen; she had her son gathering precinct returns by telephone at the age of nine, and the next year took him to the 1928 Republican convention. Why the Republican convention? Well, for one thing, the Democrats were the party of low-bred louts: people like Senator Theodore Bilbo of Mississippi who would go on to write the segregationist masterpiece Take Your Choice: Separation or Mongrelization. And the bosses who gathered the teeming urban immigrant masses into a block vote that tried to turn the Democratic Party "wet." So there was snobbishness. But there were also liberal heroes in the Republican Party of the early twentieth century—people like Robert La Follette Sr., who before he founded his own Progressive Party in 1924, invented the direct primary, installed the first workers' compensation legislation, and championed the vote for women. That was part of the Republican living tradition Bill Scranton, in was born and bred to. Another liberal tributary came from his father's side: the Biblical notion that to those whom much is given, much is expected. Taking care of people: dismiss it as noblesse oblige if you want, but at least rich people back then felt the obligation. Done right, it very well can become the seedbed of progressive change. As I wrote in Before the Storm: Barry Goldwater and the Unmaking of the American Consensus, "A Pennsylvania squire who said that the free market brought only blessings would be run out of town on a rail. Scranton, the city, had been the anthracite coal capital of the world before the market for the fuel collapsed in mid-century, the nation’s industrial center began sliding southwest, and radical new automation technology began sluicing off some 40,000 industrial jobs a month nationwide. In Pennsylvania, unemployment was 50 percent above the national average and fifty-six of fifty-seven counties were federally designed as depressed areas; in the same years that Phoenix grew from 50,000 residents to 500,000, Scranton shrunk. It was a quiet, underlying dread in the 1960s that these economic forces, as Rhode Island's liberal Republican governor John Chafee"—dad of Lincoln, who of course ran screaming from a Republican Party that no longer had a place for the likes of him in it—"put it, would 'dump the unskilled and semi-skilled worker into the human slag heap.'" And back in the day, there were crazy kooky Republicans who actually believed enlightened, activist government could do something about it.

G-Fafif Aug 04 2013 08:21 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Hall of Fame Baltimore Colts defensive tackle and David Letterman guest Art Donovan, 89. Ten times, Donovan appeared on "Late Night with David Letterman," where he spun yarns about his youth in the Bronx, his hitch in the Marines during World War II and his experiences during the sanguinary years of the National Football League, when the game was played by "oversized coal miners and West Texas psychopaths." Often, his stories were laced with self-deprecating humor and some choice four-letter words. Like beer, Spam and junk food. "Dunnie had all of his stories numbered," said Alex Sandusky, a Colts teammate. "Going to games, he'd sit in the last seat on the bus, the widest one. That was our 'story room.' Then he'd say, 'This is number 46 coming up.' "He was a classic — a great, fun-loving human being. If they can laugh in heaven, he'll get them going."

G-Fafif Aug 04 2013 08:25 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Lindy Boggs, longtime congresswoman from Louisiana, 97. She was appointed to fill her husband Hale's seat when his plane disappeared somewhere over Alaska in 1972, which always sounded like one of the worst fates for both the victim and those he left behind. Between them, the Boggses served their district for 46 years. Mrs. Boggs hated offending anyone, she wrote in her memoir, and so taking strong stands did not come easily. But “maybe” was not a voting option, she added; only “aye” or “nay.” Mrs. Boggs championed racial justice at a time when doing so invited the resentment if not hostility of most Southern whites. She saw the growing civil rights movement as necessary to the political reform movement of the 1940s and ’50s. “You couldn’t want to reverse the injustices of the political system and not include the blacks and the poor; it was just obvious,” she said in 1990. While her husband was in office, she supported civil rights legislation as well as Head Start and antipoverty programs. As the president of two organizations of Congressional wives, she saw to it that each group was racially integrated. After her district was redrawn in 1983, giving blacks a majority, Mrs. Boggs was re-elected three times. In the first of these victories, in 1984, she captured more than a third of the black vote in defeating a popular black politician, Israel M. Augustine Jr., a former state judge, who was backed by black political organizations. When she announced her retirement from Congress in 1990, she was the only white member of Congress representing a black-majority district. Their daughter: Cokie Roberts.

G-Fafif Aug 05 2013 01:18 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Peter Richmond remembers Art Donovan. When Artie dominated at defensive tackle, before '58, the sport was one step ahead of pro wrestling in the public's perception. That championship game in the Stadium, just down the street from where Artie grew up, changed everything. It was pretty cool for Artie, and not just because, behind Artie and Gino Marchetti and Lipscomb and Raymond Berry and Johnny Unitas, they beat the Giants in overtime, so that Californians could catch the dramatic Unitas mastery at the end and the first hook had been planted. No, because the Colts spent the night -- along with the Giants -- in the once-grand Grand Concourse Hotel on the once-grand Grand Concourse, an avenue modeled on the Champs d'Elysee, where half the Giants lived (management saved Charlie Conerly's wife's silver for her during the offseason). Artie in the Grand Concourse Hotel. As a kid in the Bronx, he and his buddies would hang outside the ballroom, and when everyone was dancing, they'd dart in and steal the pitchers of beer off the tables, then dart out to the Grand Concourse. It wasn't all that risky, actually: The maître d' was named Jerry, from Artie's neighborhood, and happily turned a blind eye. The big-shot lawyers at the bar -- the place was a block from the stolid Deco courthouse, three blocks from the stadium -- weren't to Jerry's taste. Artie wanted to be a cop, then a teacher. He applied to Columbia to see if he could get some teaching credits; the Ivy bastion, after reviewing the application, advised him to stick with professional football. So he did. And took another ring in '59 when they routed the Giants. Marchetti was the leader of the defense; the man his teammates called Fatso was the court jester -- until the opening kickoff. He was good. He's in the Hall of Fame. He was All-Pro four times. Then after the final whistle, he'd be Fatso again, when he'd bitch about how the strongest refreshment in the locker room was orange soda. By the '80s, Artie knew he had a good thing, this gift of storytelling. So natural were his chops that he would become a Letterman regular. But he knew it was shtick. He was a Bronx guy at heart. And when he was running the country club down in Maryland, you could always find him -- not at the bar, in that basement kitchen.

Edgy MD Aug 05 2013 01:33 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Man, Art Donvan. There was a time around 1990 where you couldn't turn the dial after midnight without seeing Art Donovan's big Irish face telling self-effacing stories like he invented the craft, be it on NFL Films or David Letterman. "So, me and Squirrely are pulling Fatty uphill on a sled, and Weeb hears us, and leans his head out the window and says, "Hey you animals, feeding time at the zoo isn't for another three hours." [youtube]MMNvBtQw3os[/youtube]

Frayed Knot Aug 05 2013 01:58 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Donovan was the exact type of guy the NFL loved to trumpet as the foundation of the monster league they were becoming ... as long as they didn't have to acknowledge his contributions and the problems he accrued from playing in that era financially.

sharpie Aug 06 2013 10:08 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Keyboard player George Duke, 67. Saw him a couple of times with Frank Zappa. One of the good guys. RIP.

RealityChuck Aug 07 2013 02:09 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Stan Lynde, creator of the "Rick O' Shay" comic strip.

metsguyinmichigan Aug 07 2013 09:41 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Cosmo Allegretti, who gave life to many characters on Captain Kangaroo, including Bunny Rabbit, Mister Moose -- and my favorite, Dancing Bear. [url]http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/entertainment/20130807/US--Obit-Cosmo.Allegretti/

sharpie Aug 08 2013 07:20 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

An old boss of mine used to work for the agents for the Captain Kangaroo gang. I'm told that Mr. Green Jeans was a very conservative guy but that Keeshan and Allegretti were pretty heavy-duty partiers. She spoke of being chased around the office by the Captain.

G-Fafif Aug 09 2013 12:53 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Karen Black, ubiquitous '70s movie actress, 74. “Black brings to all her roles a freewheeling combination of raunch and winsomeness,” Time magazine wrote about her in 1975. “Sometimes she is kittenish. At other times she has an overripe quality that makes her look like the kind of woman who gets her name tattooed on sailors.”

soupcan Aug 09 2013 01:57 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

G-Fafif wrote: Karen Black, ubiquitous '70s movie actress, 74. “Black brings to all her roles a freewheeling combination of raunch and winsomeness,” Time magazine wrote about her in 1975. “Sometimes she is kittenish. At other times she has an overripe quality that makes her look like the kind of woman who gets her name tattooed on sailors.”

Benjamin Grimm Aug 09 2013 01:58 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I can't exactly picture her (I'm getting mixed up with Karen Valentine) but I'm pretty sure she was prettier than she is in that photo that soupcan posted.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2013 02:38 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

She was a semi-leading lady, albeit in some countercultural movies (Five Easy Pieces and such), but in the late seventies, starting with the Trilogy of Terror, she started getting schlockier roles offered. But rather than reject them and lobby her agent for high-profile work), she embraced them, and became the new queen of the B's --- or, what passed for B-movie fare, which was straight-to-video and late-nite cable. When her contemporaries disappeared, she worked and worked and worked. Look for her in Killer Fish and Zapped Again! and House of 1000 Corpses. Films that might night have gotten financed hadn't Karen Black been attached to them. Eat your heart out, Troy McClure.

G-Fafif Aug 10 2013 11:39 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Molly Lambert recalls the 194 characters of Karen Black. She was incredibly beautiful and very interesting looking; slightly cross-eyed with large features that made her resemble a lioness. She has an unforgettable face that makes her instantly recognizable in her hundreds of credits. But she also displayed a chameleonic screen presence, fully inhabiting her characters, often women living on the fringes of society. Her good looks could be exaggerated into grotesquerie. She wasn't afraid to play women who were weird and occasionally frightening. It was an ability she played up as she transitioned into horror films during the latter half of her career.

MFS62 Aug 10 2013 07:11 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Eydie Gorme - 84 http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-207_162-575 ... ies-at-84/ Olevai Sholom. Later

Frayed Knot Aug 11 2013 08:36 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

MFS62 wrote: Eydie Gorme - 84 http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-207_162-575 ... ies-at-84/ Authorities blame the cause of death on the Bossa Nova.

G-Fafif Aug 12 2013 01:07 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

[youtube]PaRlW-jz1QQ[/youtube] Ken Levine remembers Eydie fondly: She was a singer, very popular in the ‘50s and ‘60s, and a concert performer well into this century. She wasn’t Barbra and she wasn’t Judy so she never received that level of adoration, but boy could the lady sing. As a pop vocalist she could hold her own with anybody – including Streisand and Garland. She had a big voice, crystal clear enunciation (imagine, being able to make out the words), could belt with the best of them, but above all really sold the emotion of every song. And the emotion was always genuine. She never became Liza With a C for cheese. She sang from the heart and you felt it. Ironically, her one smash number one song was a trifle called “Blame It On The Bossa Nova”. That’s like the great Judy Dench, for all her magnificent work in the theater, being best known as M in James Bond movies. [...] My parents had a friend who went to high school with her. Every Jewish parent had a friend who went to high school with her. Or was her neighbor. Or they were in camp together. There was something relatable about her. She could have been my aunt. Had she showed at family Thanksgivings she would have fit right in. I can’t imagine Barbra Streisand sitting at our Thanksgiving table. I can’t picture Barbra Streisand arriving with her homemade carrot compote. Aunt Eydie I could.

G-Fafif Aug 12 2013 04:38 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Oh, and Eddie Gome also died, as did another remaining shred of local newscast dignity. WABC’s Carolina Leid Reports on Death of Singing Great Eydie Gorme as ‘Eddie Gome’ One-half of the famed nightclub team “Steve and Eydie” died over the weekend. But Eydie Gorme, who was 84, was apparently not well-known to WABC weekend anchor Carolina Leid. Filling in for Michelle Charlesworth yesterday morning, she called the Bronx native “Eddie Gome.” The embarrassing moment was caught on cell phone video. While the Channel 7 graphic behind and below was accurate, Leid, known for accentuating her first name with the Latino pronunciation, didn’t just make the error once. She also referred to the songstress as “Gome” in the second reference. One station insider understands the scrutiny. “It’s unfortunate, but I could easily make the same kind of mistake on a story about a reality TV star.” Clearly, there’s an age gap between Leid, and the generation that knew Gorme. Perhaps Leid misread the teleprompter. Still, it is no excuse, especially in New York. Obviously, if you aren’t familiar with a name, ask someone in the newsroom. If that fails to yield results, check the Internet. There are plenty of entries for Steve Lawrence and Eydie Gorme performing together, or from her solo career. Despite the faux pas, the insider says, this far from tarnishes her at WABC. “I think she is well-regarded here. Carolina works hard.”

G-Fafif Aug 14 2013 07:13 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Ace political reporter Jack Germond, 85. Covered every campaign from 1964 until 2000, when he just couldn't take it (as personified by Bush vs. Gore) anymore. Also, the business had changed. "Journalism was a great way to make a living. It was fun," Germond told People magazine in 2001. "Nowadays, reporters drink white wine and eat salads. They go to their rooms, transcribe their notes and go to the gym. We never did that." His memoir, Fat Man in a Middle Seat, is engaging and enlightening if you're interested in the intersection of journalism and politics before the white-wine drinking, salad-eaters took over.

Edgy MD Aug 14 2013 08:33 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

He was on a lot of Sunday news review shows, particularly The McLaughlin Group, and when he'd open his mouth you'd realize just how stupid crazy the ideologues he was surrounded with were. Spent a good chunk of his career with the once-great Baltimore Sun. I'd've thought he was gone already. It's a tribute to medical science that he made it to 85 and Art Donovan reached 88. Did they have the same doctor Keith Richards uses?

Mets – Willets Point Aug 14 2013 08:39 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Kongor-ol Ondar, 51, famed throatsinger of Tuva. Genghis Blues is a must-see documentary.

G-Fafif Aug 14 2013 08:53 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Edgy MD wrote: It's a tribute to medical science that he made it to 85 and Art Donovan reached 88. Perhaps it's something in the water in your adopted city. Or the french fries and gravy that they served in Diner.

smg58 Aug 14 2013 09:19 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Mets – Willets Point wrote: Kongor-ol Ondar, 51, famed throatsinger of Tuva. Genghis Blues is a must-see documentary. Absolutely.

sharpie Aug 14 2013 09:35 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Saw those throat singers with Laurie Anderson a few years back. Amazing.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 15 2013 07:49 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Allen Lanier feared not the Reaper. The original Blue Öyster Cult keyboardist dead of lung disease at 67.

metsguyinmichigan Aug 15 2013 09:26 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Allen Lanier feared not the Reaper. The original Blue Öyster Cult keyboardist dead of lung disease at 67. A Long Islander, too? I only saw them once, on the "Black and Blue" tour with Black Sabbath. They were really popular when I was in high school, but I never got into them much. The symbol kind of creeped me out, but I'm not sure why. Also kind of frightening that the rockers of my youth are all pushing 70!

Benjamin Grimm Aug 15 2013 09:32 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I'd never heard of Gia Allemand until this morning, but I'm haunted by her pretty face on the cover of the Daily News today.

G-Fafif Aug 16 2013 04:14 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Comic actress Lisa Robin Kelly, 43, in a rehab facility. Played Laurie Forman to a ditzy, conniving tee on That '70s Show.

G-Fafif Aug 18 2013 11:39 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Roy Rubin, 87, NBA coaching's answer to (or precedent for) Anthony Young. Led the 1972-73 76ers to a 4-47 record before being asked to depart Philadelphia. Under Kevin Loughery, the Sixers finished an all-time worst 9-73. By the following year, Loughery was leading the Nets to the ABA championship. Rubin would never coach again. But he is fondly -- or at least respectfully -- remembered by Ed Hershey, his student-manager (and future newspaper reporter) for what he did before coaching in the pros. Rubin first gained wide attention when Columbus met the strongly favored Boys High in the 1960 Public Schools Athletic League tournament semifinals at Madison Square Garden. His two inside players, Ronnie Miller and Albie Grant, were no match for the great Connie Hawkins, but Rubin had two guards, Larry Kessler and Warren Lifschutz, who could dribble rings around anyone. So Rubin froze the ball. Columbus trailed in the final minute, 17-15, but lost by 6. The tactic was criticized but praised, too, and eight years later, North Carolina State’s Norm Sloan used it to upset Duke, 12-10, in an Atlantic Coast Conference tournament semifinal. In 1961, Rubin was recruited to coach at L.I.U. in Brooklyn, which had revived its program after a point-shaving scandal. His first season was also my freshman year at L.I.U. We had been introduced by mutual friends at Stark’s coffee shop on Madison Avenue, where a basketball equivalent of the Algonquin Round Table assembled to dissect games played at the Garden. I remember Rubin as a commanding presence at Stark’s who could turn the conversation with a word or a nod. There was no shortage of second-guessing, but one thing Rubin refused to countenance was questioning a coach’s decision to bench a player. “You don’t know what he might be dealing with,” he would say. “You’re not at practice or in the locker room.” L.I.U. had no court of its own in 1961. The team played home games at an armory in Bedford-Stuyvesant or the Power Memorial Academy gym in Manhattan. Practices were a good distance from the campus at the armory or in a tiny gym atop the university’s pharmacy college, where Rubin set a tone from Day 1. He came upon a senior forward smoking in the locker room and dismissed him on the spot. I didn’t last much longer as a student manager. A canvas bag of basketballs wound up at the wrong site, delaying a shoot-around. Rubin seethed. While boarding the team bus for a game the next day, he snapped: “Hershey, get off. I like basketballs when I practice. You’re fired.” When I covered the team for the L.I.U. newspaper, I analyzed which players were most likely to survive preseason tryouts. The day that article was published, I walked into the new gym L.I.U. had carved into Brooklyn’s old Paramount Theatre only to hear a familiar voice. “Hershey, get out the gym!” Rubin shouted. “I don’t need your help. I can cut my own team!” Another time, I spotted Rubin shooting baskets by himself. He made eight successive free throws and two from the top of the key before realizing he had an audience. “You never saw that,” he said, explaining that he never took a shot in front of his players because even one miss risked diminishing him in their eyes. When he wasn’t plotting the X’s and O’s of offense and defense, he was dealing with his players in a personal way. He knew every class they took and even tracked their social lives to make sure they did not run with the wrong crowd. I once saw him trade hugs with a hulk of a man in the gym lobby. “I’ll tell you who that was, but you have to promise not to write about it,” Rubin told me later. It was Dolph Bigos, a star forward who served time for point shaving and was back more than a decade later to finish his degree. They had been teammates before Rubin transferred to Louisville because L.I.U. Coach Clair Bee did not play him.

sharpie Aug 20 2013 07:37 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Elmore Leonard, 87. Read a bunch of books in the 80's and 90's. Seemed like a great guy.

Frayed Knot Aug 20 2013 07:45 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Published his first novel [u:32ok3gzx]SIXTY[/u:32ok3gzx] years ago (THE BOUNTY HUNTERS - 1953) and his final one (RAYLAN) just last year.

Edgy MD Aug 20 2013 08:39 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I suspect he'll live on as a zombi author.

Vic Sage Aug 20 2013 08:46 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Never read his books but I feel like I have, since Hollywood adapted many of them over the years, some with Leonard’s screenplays and some without. His earliest adaptations in the late 50’s were the westerns THE TALL T (1957) and 3:10 TO YUMA (1958), both classics of the genre. A decade later came another good pair of westerns: HOMBRE (1967) and VALDEZ IS COMING (1971). But these were followed by an unsuccessful Clint Eastwood western, JOE KIDD (1972) and one of the lesser Charles Bronson movies of the period, MR. MAJESTYK (1972). After that followed 20+ years in the wilderness, with many mediocre and some downright crappy films and TV movies, some of which he adapted himself, including the Burt Reynolds flop STICK (1985) (when your work has been the basis for flops by Eastwood, Bronson and Reynolds, you've really done something). The only decent film in this period is the underrated 52 PICK-UP (1986), for which he also wrote the screenplay. I suspect the quality of this one was due largely to director John Frankenheimer. Leonard's last screenplay ever produced was for the lame DESPERADO (1987). Then came the final burst of Leonard love in Hollywood with a trio of stylish, amusing, tough-minded but romantic action/crime comic dramas, in GET SHORTY (1995), JACKIE BROWN (1997) and OUT OF SIGHT (1998), all of which are recommended. But what followed was dross until the end, including an inept remake of 3:10 and a forgettable sequel to GET SHORTY called BE COOL. Planned for release shortly is a less than anticipated adaptation of LIFE OF CRIME (2013), with Jennifer Aniston and Tim Robbins in a crime comedy. Like most writers, he has had his ups and downs in Hollywood, but the peaks were worth the valleys, with tension-filled western morality plays and stylishly amoral crime comedies left in his considerable wake.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 20 2013 08:53 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I never read his stuff either, but he inspired the tv show Justified, which I really like a lot. Mike Lupica must be beside himself right now.

Vic Sage Aug 20 2013 08:55 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

i hope not... one Lupica is more than enough.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 20 2013 10:03 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I'm not a huge crime or western fella, and I loved his stuff. And like Vic said, the hash Hollywood made of it was often pretty sharp and tasty. R.I.P.

Frayed Knot Aug 20 2013 10:32 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Never read his books but I feel like I have, since Hollywood adapted many of them over the years, some with Leonard’s screenplays and some without. His earliest adaptations in the late 50’s were the westerns THE TALL T (1957) and 3:10 TO YUMA (1958), both classics of the genre. By coincidence I was flipping channels last night and it was Randolph Scott night on TCM; kicking it off at 8PM was 'THE TALL T' I didn't stay for the movie, but when host guy doing the intros (I always forget his name) mentioned that this was from an Elmore Leonard story my reaction was; Elmore Leonard was publishing stuff as early as 1957!!!!! Well, earlier than that as it turns out.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 20 2013 10:48 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Also from the Leonard files-- I'd almost forgotten how much I liked this. The line of dialogue belongs to the character; the verb is the writer sticking his nose in. But said is far less intrusive than grumbled, gasped, cautioned, lied. I once noticed Mary McCarthy ending a line of dialogue with ''she asseverated,'' and had to stop reading to get the dictionary.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 20 2013 11:34 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I remember reading A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court and was surprised how often Mark Twain used the verb "ejaculated" as a synonym for "said." The characters in that book were ejaculating all over the place!

G-Fafif Aug 22 2013 01:49 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Sid Bernstein, who thought to bring the Beatles to Shea Stadium, 95. Saw him 10 years ago at a Beatles tribute performance (1964) at Carnegie Hall reminiscing on stage at how exciting it all was.

Edgy MD Aug 22 2013 02:26 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

My rock-chick friend Jana, big Beatle nut from our pre-teen years, had a long relationship with him, often acting as escort and ambassador bringing him to latter day rock 'n' roll events/Beatle fan events.

Frayed Knot Aug 24 2013 07:20 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Former NY Knick Dean Meminger - 65, possible drug overdose.

Edgy MD Aug 30 2013 08:07 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

[list]Digging Between my finger and my thumb The squat pen rests; snug as a gun. Under my window, a clean rasping sound When the spade sinks into gravelly ground: My father, digging. I look down Till his straining rump among the flowerbeds Bends low, comes up twenty years away Stooping in rhythm through potato drills Where he was digging. The coarse boot nestled on the lug, the shaft Against the inside knee was levered firmly. He rooted out tall tops, buried the bright edge deep To scatter new potatoes that we picked, Loving their cool hardness in our hands. By God, the old man could handle a spade. Just like his old man. My grandfather cut more turf in a day Than any other man on Toner’s bog. Once I carried him milk in a bottle Corked sloppily with paper. He straightened up To drink it, then fell to right away Nicking and slicing neatly, heaving sods Over his shoulder, going down and down For the good turf. Digging. The cold smell of potato mould, the squelch and slap Of soggy peat, the curt cuts of an edge Through living roots awaken in my head. But I’ve no spade to follow men like them. Between my finger and my thumb The squat pen rests. I’ll dig with it. --- Seamus F. Heaney, 1939-2013[/list:u] [youtube]dIzJgbNANzk[/youtube]

G-Fafif Sep 01 2013 05:07 AM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Chat show presenter and Nixon interrogator David Frost, 74.

G-Fafif Sep 01 2013 03:19 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Tribute from Ben Brantley to the recently passed Julie Harris, 87. So among the great American stage actresses of the 20th century, it was Ms. Harris who most held my imagination. I didn’t make it to New York, even as a tourist, until I was 16, so I was forced to be content with her appearances on the screen — a television version of “A Doll’s House” that I must have seen before I could read, and the movies “The Member of the Wedding” and “East of Eden.” She had a heightened, almost feverish presence that seemed tantalizingly at odds with the naturalism of film. Ms. Harris was unabashedly ardent in a way that most movie stars were not. Her tremulousness suggested she experienced life more intensely than those around her. This made her ideal for the self-dramatizing heroines she had originated onstage and then recreated on film: the madcap Sally Bowles in “I Am a Camera” and the anguished 12-year-old Frankie of “Wedding,” characters who long to be somehow exceptional; who were, by nature and by faith, theatrical. I mean it as a compliment when I say that when I watched her in a film, I could imagine her onstage in the theater — for me, as a kid, the more exalted art. And when I finally did see Ms. Harris on a Broadway stage, in “Lucifer’s Child,” a one-woman show about Isak Dinesen, the glow was only brighter, and she seemed larger than she had in cinematic close-up.

Frayed Knot Sep 02 2013 01:02 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Boxer/actor/John Wayne descendent Tommy Morrison - 44 Apparently he was actually the Heavyweight Champion of the world at one point according to some group. I had no idea.

TransMonk Sep 02 2013 02:42 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

Didn't he fight Tyson at some point?

Frayed Knot Sep 02 2013 02:50 PM Re: Guess who died in 2013

I don't remember. I think he fought Foreman at some point but it's been a lot of years since I followed boxing even a little.