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Same Desert Island Syne

Part of the Plan

0 votes

The Power of Gold (with Tim Weisberg)

2 votes

Longer

4 votes

Heart Hotels

0 votes

Same Old Lang Syne

0 votes

Hard to Say

0 votes

Leader of the Band

1 votes

Run For the Roses

0 votes

Missing You

0 votes

Make Love Stay

0 votes

The Language of Love

1 votes

Mets – Willets Point Jan 01 2013 10:00 AM

Since this is unofficially the day after Dan Fogleberg Day (according to commercial radio), time to pick a Peoria Dan track for your desert island mix tape. Part of the Plan [youtube:3c9wlgrp]WE9W6XxXkiQ[/youtube:3c9wlgrp] The Power of Gold (with Tim Weisberg) [youtube:3c9wlgrp]8bxiI47Q12s[/youtube:3c9wlgrp] Longer [youtube:3c9wlgrp]5Go6I2_PpBU[/youtube:3c9wlgrp] Heart Hotels [youtube:3c9wlgrp]Ht0fwnwNKxM[/youtube:3c9wlgrp] Same Old Lang Syne [youtube:3c9wlgrp]wg4VJZTq8vU[/youtube:3c9wlgrp] Hard to Say [youtube:3c9wlgrp]vAhzT_cPbTE[/youtube:3c9wlgrp] Leader of the Band [youtube:3c9wlgrp]NAH-HyIpneA[/youtube:3c9wlgrp] Run For the Roses [youtube:3c9wlgrp]ZdDwm3QIwfg[/youtube:3c9wlgrp] Missing You [youtube:3c9wlgrp]j9ICCCfK5Rk[/youtube:3c9wlgrp] Make Love Stay [youtube:3c9wlgrp]-DsnCjI4RmA[/youtube:3c9wlgrp] The Language of Love [youtube:3c9wlgrp]_QX7sT_ZL4o[/youtube:3c9wlgrp]

Swan Swan H Jan 01 2013 10:14 AM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

I voted for 'Power of Gold,' but 'Tell Me To My Face' from the Twin Sons of Different Mothers album is my favorite Fogeltrack. That album is first gift I ever gave my wife, for her birthday before we were a couple. 'Longer' was actually our wedding song, which was neither the first nor the last decision in our thirty-three years together that did not go my way.

metsguyinmichigan Jan 01 2013 11:51 AM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

I voted for "Heart Hotel" because I really like the piano work there, but "Missing You" is close. Probably has hard as he rocks out.

Edgy MD Jan 01 2013 12:25 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

This is good. We went down this road once before, but I screwed it up by leaving out "Longer Than."

Mets – Willets Point Jan 01 2013 02:11 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

Edgy MD wrote: This is good. We went down this road once before, but I screwed it up by leaving out "Longer Than." Well, shit, is there any artist we haven't done one of these for yet? I was certain this was virgin territory.

Edgy MD Jan 01 2013 05:40 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

By adding to the poll, I think I erased a buncha votes. It's good to revisit. Something makes me think Rockin Doc was a Fogleberger. Somebody get Doc back. Cooby, how 'bout you? We haven't done Whitney Houston. Or Thelma Houston. Or Jim Croce. Or the Young Rascals. Or Dinah Shore. Or The Damned. Or The Dead Boys. Or The Bullet Boys. Or the Backstreet Boys. Or the Dum Dum Girls. Or the Spice Girls. We haven't done David Cassady, David Soul, or David Archuleta. We haven't done Janis Ian, Janis Joplin, or Janis the Muppet. We haven't done Phoebe Snow or B.B. King or Kiki Dee. We haven't done Cher, Lulu, or Twiggy. We haven't done the Black Crows, the Counting Crows or the Cheryl Crows. We haven't done the Animals, the Byrds, or the Screaming Trees. We haven't done KMFDM, UTFO, EPMD, or BotDF.

cooby Jan 01 2013 06:04 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

Power of Gold. Speaks to me. Wait, no, Run for the Roses. Or Hearts Hotel. Or Same Old Lang Syne. This is a toughy.

cooby Jan 01 2013 06:11 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

cooby wrote: Power of Gold. Speaks to me. Wait, no, Run for the Roses. Or Hearts Hotel. Or Same Old Lang Syne. This is a toughy. Edit II: I wrote to Doc just last week, I am working on him....

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 01 2013 09:07 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

"Same Old Lang Syne" always struck me as an oddly passive story song. "Hey. Remember that lover of mine? I ran into her the other day at the store, and we went out for a drink afterward. Absolutely nothing happened, and nothing of emotional or actual consequence was said. Still, I will remember that frozen food aisle forever." I've tried on a lot of different artists, and have listened to a lot of things that one may characterize as "embarrassing," but Fogelberg's one of a very few artists whose stuff embarrasses me even when there's nobody else in the room. "Longer" reminds me of the old barber shop where I used to get clipper-cut in middle-school, and I used to mistake it for Gordon Lightfoot. So... that?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 01 2013 09:44 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: "Same Old Lang Syne" always struck me as an oddly passive story song. "Hey. Remember that lover of mine? I ran into her the other day at the store, and we went out for a drink afterward. Absolutely nothing happened, and nothing of emotional or actual consequence was said. Still, I will remember that frozen food aisle forever." I've tried on a lot of different artists, and have listened to a lot of things that one may characterize as "embarrassing," but Fogelberg's one of a very few artists whose stuff embarrasses me even when there's nobody else in the room. It's the power of Gold, Jerry! Lotta cowbell action in that last one.

Mets – Willets Point Jan 01 2013 09:45 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

I voted for "Leader of the Band" because I remember really liking it at the time (I was eight) and it's nice to write a tribute to your dad. Maybe the radio stations should play this song every year on Father's Day?

Mets – Willets Point Jan 01 2013 09:49 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: "Same Old Lang Syne" always struck me as an oddly passive story song. "Hey. Remember that lover of mine? I ran into her the other day at the store, and we went out for a drink afterward. Absolutely nothing happened, and nothing of emotional or actual consequence was said. Still, I will remember that frozen food aisle forever." It's basically the same plot as Harry Chapin's "Taxi" from a decade earlier, right on down to the assumption that the woman is only pretending to be happy with her husband.

Edgy MD Jan 02 2013 07:30 AM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

Yeah, that's not a bad takeaway. "I lost the girl, but she's unhappily sheltered in a loveless marriage, so I've got that going for me, which is nice."

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 02 2013 07:42 AM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

Mets – Willets Point wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: "Same Old Lang Syne" always struck me as an oddly passive story song. "Hey. Remember that lover of mine? I ran into her the other day at the store, and we went out for a drink afterward. Absolutely nothing happened, and nothing of emotional or actual consequence was said. Still, I will remember that frozen food aisle forever." It's basically the same plot as Harry Chapin's "Taxi" from a decade earlier, right on down to the assumption that the woman is only pretending to be happy with her husband. Yes, except "'Cause I've been letting my outside tide me over 'till my time runs out." wears a hell of a lot better than "We tried to reach past the emptiness" and "We drank a toast to innocence." I mean, holy shit, Dan-- the architect may just be a roof over her head, but if she'd stayed with you, she'd have shot herself years ago.

Edgy MD Jan 02 2013 08:12 AM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

[list]We tried to reach beyond the emptiness But neither one knew how.[/list:u] Give him credit. The man knew scansion. He also briefly channels Jackson Brown and for a moment turns it into another existential-rigors-of-the-road song. [list]She said she saw me in the record stores And that I must be doing well I said the audience was heavenly But the traveling was hell.[/list:u] The dream is a lie, kids! How many ways do you need to hear it!

metsguyinmichigan Jan 02 2013 09:33 AM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

Ok, there are a couple problems with this song: "She went to hug me and she spilled her purse And we laughed until we cried." Fogelberg's bar for comedy is pretty low if purse-spilling moves him to tears.

seawolf17 Jan 02 2013 09:49 AM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

Who the hell is Dan Fogelberg?

G-Fafif Jan 02 2013 12:47 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

Ok, there are a couple problems with this song: "She went to hug me and she spilled her purse And we laughed until we cried." Fogelberg's bar for comedy is pretty low if purse-spilling moves him to tears. One wonders what was in the purse.

Mets – Willets Point Jan 02 2013 01:05 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

seawolf17 wrote: Who the hell is Dan Fogelberg? I don't even know who Dan Fogerburp is!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 02 2013 01:10 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

Ok, there are a couple problems with this song: "She went to hug me and she spilled her purse And we laughed until we cried." Fogelberg's bar for comedy is pretty low if purse-spilling moves him to tears. One wonders what was in the purse. TOP FIVE LIKELIEST ITEMS IN PURSE OF 'SOLS' "OLD LOVER": 5) Magnum condoms 4) Mace, purchased after she sensed someone following her into the supermarket 3) Mad magazine pullout poster of "Jonathan Livingpoor OceanRat" 2) Fart-in-a-bag 1) Polaroids of him, taken as she followed him in the drugstore the previous week

Edgy MD Jan 02 2013 01:15 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

Nice date, by the way. Buy a six at the liquor store, drink it in her car, and then watch her swerve off into the wintry mix with three beers in her belly, a lifetime of regret of in her heart, and a sad sax solo on the radio. How irresponsible is that? Dan, if you can't find an open bar, that's God talking to you right there.

Swan Swan H Jan 02 2013 01:21 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

Mets – Willets Point wrote: seawolf17 wrote: Who the hell is Dan Fogelberg? I don't even know who Dan Fogerburp is! They had a huge poster for the Fogelberg/Weisberg duo album on the bullpen wall at WKRP. I guess the set designer thought that passed for cool in 1978.

seawolf17 Jan 02 2013 01:31 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

Swan Swan H wrote: Mets – Willets Point wrote: seawolf17 wrote: Who the hell is Dan Fogelberg? I don't even know who Dan Fogerburp is! They had a huge poster for the Fogelberg/Weisberg duo album on the bullpen wall at WKRP. I guess the set designer thought that passed for cool in 1978. Looking at the other poll, at least I'm consistent.

metsguyinmichigan Jan 02 2013 01:32 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

Nice date, by the way. Buy a six at the liquor store, drink it in her car, and then watch her swerve off into the wintry mix with three beers in her belly, a lifetime of regret of in her heart, and a sad sax solo on the radio. How irresponsible is that? Dan, if you can't find an open bar, that's God talking to you right there. Good point! Should have gone to Mickey D's for shakes and fries. And why is she abandoning her husband on Christmas Eve for drinks with an old flame in the car? Can you imagine what that conversation was like when she got home? "Honey, where have you been? I've had "The Grinch" in the DVD player and eggnog ready to go for an hour." A: Oh, I was at Pathmark and ran into a friend. "You smell like Miller Light. Who was the friend?" A: We had some beer in the car. It was Dan Fogelburp. "Who the hell is that? Oh, wait, the guy you dated? Isn't he like some singer or something?" A: He's a troubadour. "Oh, excuse me! You're pounding beer in the car with an ex-boyfriend while I'm sitting here wrapping presents?" A: Sort of. "Oh, man. Hey, wait a minute. Isn't he the guy who sings that wimpy "Longer" song? Never mind. he's not a threat."

Vic Sage Jan 02 2013 01:54 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

seawolf17 wrote: seawolf17 wrote: Who the hell is Dan Fogelberg? I don't even know who Dan Fogerburp is! They had a huge poster for the Fogelberg/Weisberg duo album on the bullpen wall at WKRP. I guess the set designer thought that passed for cool in 1978. Looking at the other poll, at least I'm consistent. i voted for "gold" last time, but "longer than" this time. A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.

cooby Jan 03 2013 03:45 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

Edgy MD wrote: Nice date, by the way. Buy a six at the liquor store, drink it in her car, and then watch her swerve off into the wintry mix with three beers in her belly, a lifetime of regret of in her heart, and a sad sax solo on the radio. How irresponsible is that? Dan, if you can't find an open bar, that's God talking to you right there. The drinking/driving part always rankled me too. Lotsa laughs in this thread, btw

Edgy MD Jan 08 2013 02:03 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

Just getting my computer updated. Our IT guy is sitting at my desk talking music. IT: "When I was young I was in a Motown cover band." EMD: "Must've been fun." IT: "Mostly. Got to open for The Who." EMD: "Wow. Awesome." IT: "Yeah, they were mostly unknown back then. Coming through town. Townsend came by the music store where I worked and bought a $29 guitar. Had no idea why he bought such a shitty guitar until later." EMD: "And you played Motown covers?" IT: "Yeah, we played a more-or-less tight set. Our singer --- I don't know if you ever heard of him --- was a guy named Dan Fogelberg." EMD: [bigpurple:3qeq0jlc]"Dan Fogelburp?!"[/bigpurple:3qeq0jlc]

Mets – Willets Point Jan 08 2013 02:30 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

You have to wonder if Fogelberg ever wrote a song about the IT guy.

cooby Jan 08 2013 02:35 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

Dan Fogelberg sang Motown covers?

Edgy MD Jan 08 2013 02:36 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

That's what the man says.

cooby Jan 08 2013 02:47 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

Run For the Roses really is a sweet song. Someone should vote for it .

Frayed Knot Jan 08 2013 02:57 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

'Bloom County' didn't have a real long peak, but while it was good it was a freakin' riot.

Vic Sage Jan 09 2013 08:37 AM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

I actually preferred it to its most direct antecedent, DOONESBURY, with its emphasis on character over politics. And despite its success, Breathed ended BLOOM COUNTY when he felt he was done with it. He later incorporated some of the characters into his sequel strip, OUTLAND, but it was never on the same level.

Frayed Knot Jan 09 2013 10:26 AM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

Vic Sage wrote: I actually preferred it to its most direct antecedent, DOONESBURY, with its emphasis on character over politics Oh I did also and by a huge margin, although I was never the biggest Doonesbury fan in the world so maybe that doesn't mean as much in my case. And despite its success, Breathed ended BLOOM COUNTY when he felt he was done with it. He later incorporated some of the characters into his sequel strip, OUTLAND, but it was never on the same level. I remember when he ended the strip he did so while denouncing cartooning as a "moribund art form" although that wasn't all that long after he had applied for membership in the National Cartoonist Society. Not quite sure what caused the rather abrupt turn-around there but it seemed like maybe something ticked him off to the entire process rather than just deciding that his characters had run their course. That he later came back with some of them for the, as you mention, lesser version of OUTLAND muddies up the water even more.

Edgy MD Jan 09 2013 10:37 AM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

The funny thing is the even more inferior Opus demonstrated how he used his pull to make the art form far less moribund --- using painting and matting techniques I can't begin to explain to give his strip a presentation that shamed those adjacent to it on the Sunday page. As much as it took arm twisting at the syndicate, and probably meant that there were many papers the strip couldn't effectively run in, the result was meh --- something akin to the newer Star Wars trilogy or the recent Hobbit, where the artist re-emerges having found new techniques to advance the art form, but not the art itself.

Mets – Willets Point Jan 09 2013 01:24 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

The 1980s was the last golden age of newspaper comics with Bloom County, Calvin & Hobbes, and The Far Side. It's too bad that new comic artists haven't been able to step into their place and the newspapers are filled with legacy comics.

Swan Swan H Jan 09 2013 01:40 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

I like Frazz, Pearls Before Swine and Get Fuzzy. I think their creators try to bring something fresh to their strip.

Edgy MD Jan 09 2013 03:02 PM Re: Same Desert Island Syne

Waterson, Larson, and Breathed all got out while the getting was good, too. At least initially. The writing generally isn't particularly funny, but I'll push the artwork on Mutts anytime I'm asked.