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Lyle Overbay Traded to Toronto

Valadius Dec 08 2005 12:52 AM

Brewers send Overbay to Toronto December 8, 2005 DALLAS (AP) -- The Toronto Blue Jays turned their attention to offense on Wednesday night, acquiring first baseman Lyle Overbay from the Milwaukee Brewers for right-hander Dave Bush, pitching prospect Zach Jackson and a player to be named. The Blue Jays, who are expanding their payroll from $45 million to $75 million this season, have been one of the most active teams at the winter meetings. They already added starter A.J. Burnett and gave closer B.J. Ryan a five-year, $47 million contract that is the richest ever for a reliever. Overbay, a left-handed hitter who is eligible for arbitration, batted .276 with 19 homers and 72 RBIs last year. His departure clears the way for top prospect Prince Fielder to take over at first base in Milwaukee. Bush was 5-11 with a 4.49 ERA in 25 games (24 starts) for Toronto this year. Jackson, a left-hander, was the 32nd pick overall out of Texas A&M in the 2004 draft. He moved through three levels of the minors and had a combined 16-8 record with a 3.92 ERA.

metirish Dec 08 2005 09:59 AM

I know nothing about what Toronto gave up to get Overbay but they sure are spending that money, expanding payroll by $30 million is a hell of a lot.So Overbay basically replaces Delgado.

OlerudOwned Dec 08 2005 10:00 AM

And Milwaukee just wanted to move him so Prince Fielder could take over 1st.

Yancy Street Gang Dec 08 2005 10:02 AM

It's looking like I'm going to be rooting for the Blue Jays in the AL this year. (The more competitive the AL East is, the better.) It would be nice if Piazza went there. Mets-Blue Jays in October. You heard it here first. (Disclaimer: that's more of a wish than a prediction.)

Edgy DC Dec 08 2005 10:23 AM

The Blue Jays have never had a uniform I could dig on. Why it matters to me that Piazza goes to a team who has a uniform I like, I have no idea.

Elster88 Dec 08 2005 10:28 AM

Probably because you intend to buy it. At least that's what I plan to do. Even though I'll never wear it. I like having Piazza stuff.

Johnny Dickshot Dec 08 2005 10:37 AM

I kinda liked the old-school "original" Jays uni's, which had numerals looking like they were torn off the backs of a defunct NASL team. Classic blue & white, with the red maple leaf (which I think was added later) providing a nice splash of color. I'm definitely against the footballish looking colors and logo of the "new" Jays. Certainly undignified for Piazza.

Yancy Street Gang Dec 08 2005 10:40 AM

Maybe they can have Piazza, metrosexual that he is, redesign the uniforms.

Edgy DC Dec 08 2005 10:40 AM

The soccer jerseys were just so soccer. Youth soccer.

seawolf17 Dec 08 2005 10:46 AM

smg58 Dec 08 2005 10:52 AM

Overbay has always intrigued me. He hasn't fulfilled his potential, but there's still a chance that he could. Last year he got off to a great start, but then got hurt and wasn't the same afterwards. He could simply level off or turn into John Olerud, and right now it's not clear which way he'll go. Dave Bush has done respectably in two half-seasons pitching in the AL East, so he could turn into a good back-of-the-rotation guy in Milwaukee. The third player is an outfielder, but I thought the Brewers' outfield had already gotten crowded with Corey Hart joining Lee, Clark, and Jenkins. I'm guessing the Brewers aren't done dealing.

sharpie Dec 08 2005 10:57 AM

He seems more Mark Grace than John Olerud to me.

Elster88 Dec 08 2005 12:03 PM

I am shocked by this trade. Milwaukee was building a solid club. Trading Overbay is a huge step in the wrong direction. Sucks for Brewers fans. Thank God I was born in the New York area.

Willets Point Dec 08 2005 12:07 PM

="seawolf17"] Good ... good ... omigod why is there a giant bird head on his belly, who the hell designed that?

OlerudOwned Dec 08 2005 12:22 PM

Elster88 wrote: I am shocked by this trade. Milwaukee was building a solid club. Trading Overbay is a huge step in the wrong direction. Sucks for Brewers fans. Thank God I was born in the New York area. Are you joking? Prince Fielder is a monster hitter and ready to step in at 1st. They had to move Overbay.

Elster88 Dec 08 2005 12:23 PM

I didn't realize it was a guarantee. In that case, couldn't they have gotten a lot more in return?

OlerudOwned Dec 08 2005 12:27 PM

Elster88 wrote: I didn't realize it was a guarantee. In that case, couldn't they have gotten a lot more in return? I guess there just isnt a desire for all-contact 1st basemen. I think he's worth more than they got too, but maybe some teams think that 2004 was a fluke.

abogdan Dec 08 2005 12:39 PM

]Trading Overbay is a huge step in the wrong direction. You do know they have Prince Fielder waiting to take over, right? Trading a player who is blocking your best prospect and who is ready for a big payday in arbitration is a step in the right direction. The Brewers added depth in OF and in their starting rotation with Gross, who had back to back .380 OBP seasons in AAA and Bush, who had a league average ERA in Toronto last season and should be a perfectly adequate back of the rotation starter making the league minimum. So, Milwaukee saved probably around $5 million, while maybe losing some offense at 1B and adding OF and pitching depth. I like the deal for both sides.

Elster88 Dec 08 2005 12:40 PM

Piling on, piling on. RMPL boss. My apologies to all for not realizing Fielder was going to win the Triple Crown next year.

metirish Dec 08 2005 12:52 PM

I'm sure Fielder is a great prospect but he's had 59 AB's in MLB so lets not go touting him as a great hitter

Edgy DC Dec 08 2005 12:54 PM

My original read of RMPL is never "Read More Post Less," but "Ruined My Pants Laughing." Elster, there's this Prince Fielder cat you should know about.

Frayed Knot Dec 08 2005 02:39 PM

I think we need to calm down about Overbay too. Nice player, but he's a 1st baseman who's yet to hit 20 HRs (39 lifetime)and will turn 29 before next season starts. I think Grace is a good comparison but more as a ceiling than as something he's already attained.

Elster88 Dec 08 2005 02:42 PM

I think Overbay is a very good hitter, and that he just doesn't get recognition because first basemen are supposed to hit 35 home runs a year. He would've been a nice guy to get on the Mets, except I heard we got this other guy.

Valadius Dec 08 2005 02:43 PM

Overbay kind of reminds me of Olerud, actually.

heep Dec 08 2005 03:00 PM

Toronto has had the 2nd best off-season thus far....

Elster88 Dec 08 2005 03:00 PM

]2nd best :-) _______________ This was Elster88's last post with the designation 103) Tom Glavine. I'll expect to see you higher up in the ranks soon, Tom.