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Good move for Yanks?

Yea	12 votes
Nay	5 votes

Edgy DC Dec 15 2005 03:38 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 15 2005 04:14 PM

There's a lot of buzz out there that the Yankees are about to announce a one-year dealie for five or six mills to Nomar Garciaparra. The idea is for him to mostly play first and back up at just about every other position. Putting aside the fact that the Yankees are clearly name-chasing clowns suspiciously seeming to be looking for the coup of getting all the original super-shortstops on their roster (and with Jeter retaining his position, somehow "proving" that he was the superior one all along), I think this would be a good move for them. I just hope that competition for Garciaparra forces them to outbid the field by two million.

metirish Dec 15 2005 03:45 PM

It might be a good PR move for the MFY's but I think it would be a bad move for Nomar, he should go to a team where he will play every day assuming he's healthy and not be a back-up player in the Bronx with the constant reminders of what he once was, a great SS.

Willets Point Dec 15 2005 03:46 PM

The Red Sox should admit they were wrong and sign Nomar.

Johnny Dickshot Dec 15 2005 03:48 PM

What are we yaying or naying in this thread. I hadn't thought about the 3 SSs thing. I think it would be cool if Nomar and $-rod beat Jeter up.

MFS62 Dec 15 2005 03:50 PM

He's had two injry plagued seasons. (Or was it just a ploy to stay at home with Mia Hamm?) I think he will take a one year contract just to prove that he is again healthy at age 32 then go for the gold after that. A part time role will serve him better than having to play every day and showcase (or expose) his ability toplay positions other than short. From his POV, I'd say its a yea. Later

sharpie Dec 15 2005 03:51 PM

What Willets said. It would be great to see Nomar back in Boston. Or anywhere else other than the Bronx.

Elster88 Dec 15 2005 03:53 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 15 2005 04:22 PM

I'd like to see the Yankees waste some money on Damon and Nomar. Their new team motto could be "All the Guys Who Used to Be Good When They Were on the Red Sox."

Frayed Knot Dec 15 2005 03:55 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 15 2005 04:10 PM

What exactly were the Red Sox wrong about? They offered - and he rejected - several contracts that, in retrospect, were millions more than he deserved. If anything, they were wrong about going as far as they did to keep him. The Indians, Dodgers & Astros are rumored to be the other Nomar suitors. In this case I can see Mr. Hamm making the same mistake as Todd Zeile did in his stint there, as well as Kenny Lofton and more recently Tony Womack; choosing the "honor" of playing in the pinstripes and not realizing until too late that they really don't have a position for you and those vague promises of playing time don't amount to anything unless and until at least 2 players require emergency appendectomies in the same week. You're there to "steal" some aura from the Sox, to play the part of a trophy, to complete the "big three" SS group from the late '90s, and as insurance. Do yourself a favor dude, go somewhere where they actually want you as a ballplayer.

Edgy DC Dec 15 2005 04:06 PM

Yea or Nay that it's a good move for the Yankees. I'm intrigued by the possibility of SuperUtilitymen. The greatest SuperUtility guy in history was Honus Wagner the first part of his career. The greatest in Met history was obviously Kevin Mitchell in 1986. It goes without saying that it's unusual for a player in this stage of Garciaparra's career to assume such a role.

seawolf17 Dec 15 2005 04:11 PM

Edgy DC wrote: It goes without saying that it's unusual for a player in this stage of Garciaparra's career to assume such a role. Largely because he sucks.

Edgy DC Dec 15 2005 04:15 PM

Take it easy.

seawolf17 Dec 15 2005 04:18 PM

Sorry. Forgot to run that one by the Funny Police first. I don't see how it's a bad move by the Yanks. They get a guy who has a good bat when healthy; they can afford it even if he gets hit by a bus tomorrow; and it decreases the average age of the players on the roster to 38.

Edgy DC Dec 15 2005 04:21 PM

Yeah, they tend to lack versatility. Assuming that he can actually move arround with some success (and retains some meaningful portion of his once proud batsmanship), he can be a better version of what the Mets are looking for Valentin to be --- a multi-positional slugger. But he may be Dickie Thon at this stage in his career.

MFS62 Dec 15 2005 04:36 PM

Edgy DC wrote: But he may be Dickie Thon at this stage in his career. You mean HIM? http://www.dickiethon.com/thonstuff/ Later

Centerfield Dec 15 2005 05:18 PM

The move makes a lot of sense for the MFY's since the most they stand to lose would be his salary. The upside would be tremendous. Once Castillo was traded to the Twins, I have been secretly hoping that if the Mets can move Matsui, Nomar will be our second baseman on Opening Day.

KC Dec 15 2005 05:54 PM

Yay for the Yanks - that's hard to say. I root for stuff like this 'cause it's fun to root for it to fail.

Zvon Dec 15 2005 07:23 PM

it would be a smart move public relations wise.....gatewise. As far as getting to the big show next year? Nomar can still hit but him being there or not wont make that much of a difference.Its not a hitting utility guy the Skanks need. They need pitching and to settle the centerfield question mark. I say yay.

Nymr83 Dec 16 2005 12:30 AM

his worst year (this past one) was a 99 OPS+, the year before was a 112. if you get back to the 112 level (but not back to his previous standards) isn't that a great guy to have who is also capable of multiple positions?

Rockin' Doc Dec 16 2005 06:31 AM

Signing Nomar for a short term deal to serve as a first baseman/DH/super sub would be a great deal for the Yankees. Most any team out there could use Nomar's bat. I'm not sure that it would be a wise move for Nomar. He could likely get a better offer and a bettter shot at regular playing time from other clubs. Nomar and his agent shouldn't be too quick to sign on for a one year deal to play first base until they pursue other offers from other clubs. If he ends up in the Bronx, I hope he milks every possible penny out of George's coffers. Of course, it has probably been Nomar's life long dream to don the fabled pinstripes of the Yankees so that he could experience the mystique of the organization first hand. Or at least that the way it seems with everyone else that signs with the MFYs.

Rotblatt Dec 16 2005 09:43 AM

A good move for any team, but especially a high-revenue one. He'd be a super utility infield guy who, when healthy, is likely to be at least average offensively. What they should probably do is move Jeter to CF, move A-Rod to short, and slot Nomar in at third. Replacing Crosby's bat with Nomar's is a huge upgrade, and I suspect it'd be a slight upgrade defensively as well.

Edgy DC Dec 16 2005 10:55 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 16 2005 11:19 AM

Barely alluded to in this thread is that signing Nomah and Jahnny and perhaps announcing the two signings on one day would --- in Steinbrenner's mind if nowhere elbus --- would be a futher demoralizing statement of hostile annexation of the recent Red Sox legacy. Heck, they could get both of them and a return of Clemens.

Bret Sabermetric Dec 16 2005 11:02 AM

They can overpay for all three of them. Demoralize me, Mr. Steinbrenner, please. Now. This minute.

MFS62 Dec 16 2005 01:02 PM

According to Perer Gammons on ESPN radio this morning, the Yanks are losing confidence in their ability to sign him since he and his agent had a long meeting yesterday with LA. Gammons went on to say that ginen the nature of his recent injuries, it would be better for him to sign with a team that wasn't counting on him to play much first base because of the reaching/ stretching involved. RAther, he should go to a team where he could play second or, preferrably, the outfield. Later

Nymr83 Dec 16 2005 01:04 PM

playing MI will help keep him healthier? i'm not seeing that...

MFS62 Dec 16 2005 01:16 PM

Nymr83 wrote: playing MI will help keep him healthier? i'm not seeing that... Sometimes many people have a hard time seeing what Peter Gammons sees. I agree with you, but don't shoot the messenger. I just reported what I heard. :) LAter

Edgy DC Dec 16 2005 01:21 PM

Don't recall a lot of injuries stretching for throws at first. Stretching in the on-deck circle, sure.

MFS62 Dec 16 2005 01:41 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Don't recall a lot of injuries stretching for throws at first. Stretching in the on-deck circle, sure. Harmon Killebrew so badly injured himself (groin) while stretching for a throw at first that he had to DH for most of the rest of his career. Later

Frayed Knot Dec 16 2005 01:46 PM

And that was during an All-Star Game!!

Edgy DC Dec 16 2005 03:42 PM

Sure, but we're going back decades for an anecdote. Likely just as much of a freak injury as Mientkiewiczz injuring his bad self in the on-deck circle

MFS62 Dec 16 2005 03:46 PM

It was the first one that immediately came to mind for FK and me. Let me think about it to see if I can come up with any more. That darn Gammons, putting me in the position of defending his stuff. I hate it when that happens. Later

Frayed Knot Dec 16 2005 04:33 PM

Remember seeing that play MFS? You don't usually see guys built like 'ol Harmon doing full splits.

Zvon Dec 16 2005 04:55 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Likely just as much of a freak injury as Mientkiewiczz injuring his bad self in the on-deck circle After what he has been reported saying about Mets management on his way out the door, I could see Mientkie suffering an injury in either on-deck circle at Shea. Or any part of the field from which the fans can reach him.

Edgy DC Dec 16 2005 05:03 PM

Well, this was what he did well before he went out the door.

MFS62 Dec 16 2005 09:40 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: Remember seeing that play MFS? You don't usually see guys built like 'ol Harmon doing full splits. Yes, I saw it, and it was just as painful remembering it just now as it was seeing it when it happened. Yechhhh. Edgy, ya' got me. Still can't think of any other first basemen injured doing splits. Fie on you, Peter Gammons, fie! Later

Willets Point Dec 19 2005 07:51 AM

Nomar votes Nay.