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Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

TransMonk Feb 08 2013 08:43 AM

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/p ... may-return Lefty Herrera eyes May return PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. -- Left-handed reliever Daniel Herrera, who made 16 appearances for the Mets in 2011, expects to be ready to pitch in games in May. The 28-year-old Herrera, an early arrival to Port St. Lucie, is about to step on a mound for the first time since undergoing Tommy John surgery last May. He will not be in major league camp. Herrera was not a free agent this past offseason. He remained under the Mets' control after making three early season relief appearances for Triple-A Buffalo last year. *After a quick search, I didn't see a 2013 Injury Thread. If there is, feel free to merge and delete.

A Boy Named Seo Feb 08 2013 08:48 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Great thread title.

metirish Feb 09 2013 11:48 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Red Sox prospect shoots self in leg while chasing cleaning his gun. By all means do not take away his gun. http://deadspin.com/5983030/the-second- ... socialflow

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 12 2013 11:45 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

DoubleFrank shut down with elbow woes. Asked where he was on a scale of 100 he said "zero."

smg58 Feb 12 2013 12:12 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Should I feel guilty about looking at this as a blessing in disguise?

Benjamin Grimm Feb 12 2013 12:22 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Yeah, I'm not too worked up about it either.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 18 2013 01:06 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

The New York Times wrote: Murphy to Miss Time With Midsection Discomfort By ANDREW KEH PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. — The Mets’ first injury concern of the year was revealed after the team’s first full squad workout of spring training Monday afternoon. After practicing with the team, second baseman Daniel Murphy prepared to head back to New York for an examination because of discomfort in his right midsection. General Manager Sandy Alderson said that the concern centered on Murphy’s intercostal muscles and that he might receive a cortisone shot. The Mets hope Murphy can be back on the field within a week. About this time last year, David Wright and Scott Hairston dealt with the same issue. Hairston’s problem lingered longer than Wright’s, but both players were ready for opening day. “I think we just want to be proactive, get me up to New York, especially with all the success they had with David and Scotty last year,” Murphy said. “The best-case scenario would be if I take a couple of days off, and it’s fine.” Murphy said he thought the tightness was related to some mechanical tweaks he was trying to make in his swing. Manager Terry Collins said the examination was a precautionary one. He said he did not envision Murphy missing too much time. Murphy has gone through a fair share of physical issues in his career, but he has generally been more accident-prone than injury-prone. In the last few years he has injured both knees, twice during plays at second base and once during a rundown on the bases.

Edgy MD Feb 18 2013 02:32 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Maddening that teams still send these guys home.

Ceetar Feb 18 2013 04:31 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Edgy MD wrote: Maddening that teams still send these guys home. I think that speaks more to the heathcare field than baseball.

Edgy MD Feb 18 2013 04:36 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

I would think that 20 teams down there, each with 200 or more players to look after, would pool their resources, buy an MRI machine, and set up a central clinic or two to share.

Ceetar Feb 18 2013 04:42 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

people get sick in Florida and need MRIs too. But they like _their_ doctors. gotta stay "in-network" right?

Lefty Specialist Feb 18 2013 06:17 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Something tells me I'm going to have a lot of mid-section discomfort watching this team this year.

Frayed Knot Feb 18 2013 07:13 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Brewer Mat* Gamel, who missed almost all of 2012 with a knee injury, heard a pop in that same knee during BP this past weekend and will now miss all of 2013 as well. Drafted in the 4th round out of HS in 2005, Gamel tore through the AA Southern League in 2008 and reached AAA by the end of that year. By 2009 he was Baseball America's #34 prospect heading into the year and saw his first ML call-up that September where he racked up 128 ABs. His biggest problem, prior to the injuries anyway, was that although he came up as a 3rd baseman he really wasn't one which, in Milwaukee, meant he was in a waiting line behind Prince Fielder for the other side of the diamond to open up. So he wound up spending almost all of 2010 in the minors (just 15 ML ABs) and most of 2011 as well (26 ML ABs); not the usual timeline or path for a top prospect, especially one putting up a AAA stat line of .301/.374/.512 in over 1,200 PAs across three seasons. Gamel then finally gets his chance when the Princely one skips out to Detroit, only to go on the shelf after May 1st last year and now it looks like it'll be at least April of 2014 before he plays again. At that point it'll be nearly nine years after he was drafted and more than five after reaching AAA in what seemed like just a procedural step into a regular big league job. * he spells his nickname Mat (with one T) because he spells his full name as Mathew - also with just the one T

MFS62 Feb 19 2013 08:31 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

At lest Daniel wasn't looking for his own treatment in Miami. Later

Ashie62 Feb 19 2013 04:36 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Why do you have to have a guy sent back to NY for a cortisone shot...The team must have an M.D. on site for the simple stuff..

Fman99 Feb 19 2013 07:30 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Frayed Knot wrote: Brewer Mat* Gamel, who missed almost all of 2012 with a knee injury, heard a pop in that same knee during BP this past weekend and will now miss all of 2013 as well. Drafted in the 4th round out of HS in 2005, Gamel tore through the AA Southern League in 2008 and reached AAA by the end of that year. By 2009 he was Baseball America's #34 prospect heading into the year and saw his first ML call-up that September where he racked up 128 ABs. His biggest problem, prior to the injuries anyway, was that although he came up as a 3rd baseman he really wasn't one which, in Milwaukee, meant he was in a waiting line behind Prince Fielder for the other side of the diamond to open up. So he wound up spending almost all of 2010 in the minors (just 15 ML ABs) and most of 2011 as well (26 ML ABs); not the usual timeline or path for a top prospect, especially one putting up a AAA stat line of .301/.374/.512 in over 1,200 PAs across three seasons. Gamel then finally gets his chance when the Princely one skips out to Detroit, only to go on the shelf after May 1st last year and now it looks like it'll be at least April of 2014 before he plays again. At that point it'll be nearly nine years after he was drafted and more than five after reaching AAA in what seemed like just a procedural step into a regular big league job. * he spells his nickname Mat (with one T) because he spells his full name as Mathew - also with just the one T I actually had a coworker at my last gig who also was named Mathew and went by Mat as a nickname. And had his name misspelled an average of 10 times per week.

Edgy MD Feb 22 2013 11:06 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

So, hints that Johan won't be ready to open the season. Insinuations that it's a conditioning issue. Sfwhat? Jon Niese, step up and start picturing yourself as an Opening Day dude.

Edgy MD Feb 22 2013 02:16 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

John Harper ?@NYDNHarper Going on Daily News Live to talk about Santana's now-delayed spring training. Probably more to it than Mets are saying.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 22 2013 02:47 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

So much for 215 innings. Omar, you're a genius!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 23 2013 07:36 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Pedro Feliciano shut down with irregular heartbeat.

Edgy MD Feb 23 2013 07:51 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Jamie Hoffman just came back from New York cleared to play after being dinged for an irregular EKG. I'm sure Feliciano will be OK. He just needs to get the zombie virus he picked up in Tampa last year out of his system.

Ceetar Feb 23 2013 08:17 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Edgy MD wrote: John Harper ?@NYDNHarper Going on Daily News Live to talk about Santana's now-delayed spring training. Probably more to it than Mets are saying. did any of these supposed reporters down there figure to ASK any of the questions or just feel like insinuating there's more to it and he's basically got one foot in the grave? i.e. was he supposed to have started throwing earlier, and didn't? Was this planned: is he behind schedule or did he not throw because he's feel this fatigue? If not, is he behind schedule or was he never really intended to have a 'normal' Spring Training routine? Is his revised routine formed from what's the bare minimum he needs to pitch Opening Day or based on his current arm strength/fitness level? Or you know, we could just run wild with rampant speculation and insinuation.

Edgy MD Feb 23 2013 02:23 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Jamie Hoffman just came back from New York cleared to play after being dinged for an irregular EKG. I'm sure Feliciano will be OK. He just needs to get the zombie virus he picked up in Tampa last year out of his system. Or... I could be wrong. Been known to happen. Pedro Feliciano OK, awaits clearance Updated: February 23, 2013, 4:15 PM ET By Adam Rubin | ESPNNewYork.com PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. -- New York Mets left-handed reliever Pedro Feliciano has been diagnosed with a small "hole" in the exterior of his heart, the southpaw said Saturday morning upon returning to camp. Feliciano said he feels fine, the issue is not life-threatening and surgery was not brought up as an option. Feliciano, who said he had an irregular heartbeart, will wear a heart monitor for a few days. He has yet to be cleared to resume baseball activities. Feliciano had been dispatched to New York for further testing after his initial physical was flagged. He underwent an MRI. "They said they found out some little hole in my heart," Feliciano said. "I've never felt nothing in my heart, so it's surprising to me." Feliciano, who is in camp on a minor league deal, said he was not alarmed. He said he had never previously been diagnosed with anything similar. "No, no, no," he said. "They said everything was right, fine -- just there was a little hole outside the heart." Manager Terry Collins said there is concern about the heart issue being serious. "My understanding is he has a heart condition that could possibly be very serious. So that's why we're being very, very careful with him," Collins said. "Until we get further results on some of the tests he took in New York, he's not to be on the field."

Swan Swan H Feb 23 2013 02:37 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Pedro's new warm-up music [youtube:6h40qvvj]I-h4A7bF8wQ[/youtube:6h40qvvj]

RealityChuck Feb 23 2013 03:24 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

It was probably caused when his heart grew three sizes in one day.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 23 2013 03:49 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

I couldn't help thinking of this.

Ashie62 Feb 23 2013 04:16 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

No WBC for Johan..so why rush him..Santana is adamant he feels fine and just needs to build him arm up. He's no kid and has had surgery.. He will be ok

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 26 2013 08:30 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Mets farmhand Erik Goeddel will require surgical repair after taking a [crossout]Mack truck[/crossout] batted ball in the face. Pic here.

TheOldMole Feb 27 2013 10:07 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Are we worried about Zach's oblique?

Frayed Knot Mar 01 2013 06:53 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Rangers SS Elvis Andrus was forced to miss yesterday's ST game due to soreness from a recent tattoo.

Ceetar Mar 01 2013 06:54 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

TheOldMole wrote: Are we worried about Zach's oblique? No. (and it's Zack not Zach, because he's a pitcher and striKes a lot of guys out. )

Ashie62 Mar 02 2013 04:38 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Johan took the wnter off..so says Heyman [url]http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/jon-heyman/21798836/mets-santana-wasnt-in-pitching-shape-when-he-got-to-camp

Edgy MD Mar 02 2013 07:51 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Damn shame if true --- and it sure seems to be, with the agent more or less copping on his behalf. Always seemed to be pretty attentive to his condition to me.

Ceetar Mar 03 2013 06:58 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Edgy MD wrote: Damn shame if true --- and it sure seems to be, with the agent more or less copping on his behalf. Always seemed to be pretty attentive to his condition to me. Well, the rest was always supposed to be important, but I wonder if Johan thought that with the long Spring Training his arm would respond quicker, faster, perhaps like it did when he was younger before all this. It surprised me too that he wouldn't have started throwing in January like normal though, I wonder what his reasoning was for not.

Edgy MD Mar 03 2013 01:31 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

No IGT today, but I fell asleep with a 4-0 lead and awoke to a 5-4 deficit (now 6-4). More importantly to this thread, Kirk Nieuwenhuis just got carted off after hurting his knee stealing second.

Edgy MD Mar 03 2013 01:36 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Reported as a "bruised left knee."

Benjamin Grimm Mar 03 2013 01:41 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Good thing the team is deep in outfielders...

Edgy MD Mar 03 2013 01:49 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Oh, the depth is there. Just not the, um, height.

vtmet Mar 03 2013 02:14 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Ashie62 wrote: No WBC for Johan..so why rush him..Santana is adamant he feels fine and just needs to build him arm up. He's no kid and has had surgery.. He will be ok how did Santana even think that he might be ready for the WBC? Was his "interest" just a publicity gimmick so that he'd look like he really "wanted" to play, but figured that the Mets were going to say no anyhow to get him off the hook?

Ceetar Mar 03 2013 02:52 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

vtmet wrote: Ashie62 wrote: No WBC for Johan..so why rush him..Santana is adamant he feels fine and just needs to build him arm up. He's no kid and has had surgery.. He will be ok how did Santana even think that he might be ready for the WBC? Was his "interest" just a publicity gimmick so that he'd look like he really "wanted" to play, but figured that the Mets were going to say no anyhow to get him off the hook? my guess is he just assumed he was 'healed' and his arm would respond like it always used to. He'd already have made two starts and be ready to go for the limited first round.

Ashie62 Mar 03 2013 04:14 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Did Johan let the Mets know the only thing he rehabbed off season was his mind?

Ceetar Mar 03 2013 04:15 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Ashie62 wrote: Did Johan let the Mets know the only thing he rehabbed off season was his mind? I'd put my money on Johan out-pitching half the league with just his mind anyway. He wasn't rehabbing anyway, no injury to recover from behind the simple rest and recovery for a sore back/ankle.

TransMonk Mar 04 2013 07:26 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/p ... iling-knee PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. -- Kirk Nieuwenhuis, who suffered a left-knee injury on a steal Sunday, will undergo an MRI this morning to help gauge the severity of the injury. A day after the issue arose, Nieuwenhuis said the knee felt similar. Nieuwenhuis will be examined in Florida and will not need to travel to New York. "I mean, I can put weight on it and stuff like that," Nieuwenhuis said. I thought that Florida was an MRI-free zone?

Benjamin Grimm Mar 04 2013 07:33 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

The only conclusion I can draw from this is that the cheapass Wilpons don't want to spend the money to send him to New York. Am I right people?

Ceetar Mar 04 2013 08:29 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

TransMonk wrote: I thought that Florida was an MRI-free zone? my guess, and just a random one at that, is that it's not deemed to be serious or complicated, and therefore the Mets don't think it's important to make sure their own doctors take care of it first hand. If it comes back less than 100% conclusive though, you can be sure he'll be headed to NY for a second opinion.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 04 2013 10:24 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Johan Santana gets the Reyes treatment By Howard Megdal 10:42 am Mar. 4, 2013 You could field a really good baseball team made up exclusively of players the Mets have criticized in the media for not returning fast enough from injury. There was Jose Reyes, who the Mets decided should come back late in 2009 to play in a meaningless final weekend series. When he objected, a whisper campaign from management led to a teary Reyes news conference. Oh, and a ramped-up comeback attempt followed, complete with tear that then required surgery. When the Mets were unhappy with Carlos Beltran's decision to follow a third doctor opinion recommending surgery, they held a conference call to blast Beltran for the decision. (Beltran's post-surgery production only reinforces it was the right move for him.) When they didn't like David Wright's concern about playing with an injured thumb, they leaked to the Daily News, as he made his decision, a reluctance to offer Wright a long-term deal because he might be "injury-prone." Now it is Johan Santana's turn. On Saturday, general manager Sandy Alderson described it as "self-evident" that Santana, the team's highest-paid player from a contract signed in the era just before ownership's involvement with Bernie Madoff was discovered, hadn't arrived in camp in pitching shape. And those nameless "club officials" that always seem to be around when the Mets might get blamed for something "have wondered aloud why Santana did not do more before spring training to strengthen his shoulder." There's so much that is strange about this story. By going quasi-public with intimations that Santana was somehow to blame for following the very plan recommended by doctors, according to Alderson himself last August, the Mets took what should have been an anodyne story about a 34-year-old pitcher with multiple recent surgeries attempting to come back, and turned it into a story with a villain. Santana has responded by largely boyotting reporter questions, which is the equivalent of receiving an upsetting text message and getting angry at Verizon. Most disquieting is the suspicion, shared by both a friend of Santana and the Mets themselves, that the stories about Santana motivated him to return to the mound and throw earlier than he'd planned to. A pitcher trying to do right by his body, who'd previously been more committed to the significant objectives of pitching well for the 2013 season, not just making a symbolic opening day start, and resurrecting a career, was exactly what the Mets should have supported. Instead, those criticisms are all it took to get the same Santana who threw an ill-advised bullpen session in an attempt to pitch through a torn anterior capsule in his shoulder in 2010, the way he pitched with bone chips in his elbow in 2009 and a torn meniscus in his knee in 2008. He tried to do the same thing with an ankle injury in 2012, with disastrous consequences on the field. In all cases, the Mets failed to protect Santana from himself, and much of their six-year, $137.5 million investment was the ultimate casualty, with Santana missing all of 2011, while 2012 ended early. Why exactly the Mets haven't learned from both their mistakes and the wisdom of many (not all, but most) other teams, who protect their star players with both public media cover and are more concerned with long-term recoveries than quick comebacks, is impossible to know. But there's nothing new about it; this phenomenon goes back to Mike Piazza, who wrote in his new book that Jeff Wilpon once asked him to play, injured, in a spring training game because it was a sellout. According to Newsday's David Lennon, just writing this in his book could be enough to keep Piazza out of the Mets Hall of Fame. http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/s ... -treatment Here's the Piazza story: Mike Piazza's chances at Mets' Hall of Fame a 'Long Shot'? March 3, 2013 9:16 PM By DAVID LENNON david.lennon@newsday.com When John Buck changed out of his uniform and into workout clothes after Saturday's game at Tradition Field, he put on a blue T-shirt with the No. 31 across the chest. The circle emblem, with a pinstriped background, was designed by a fan-run company as part of a movement to get Mike Piazza's number retired by the Mets. But when Buck was asked by a teammate about the shirt's meaning, the catcher shrugged. "I don't know," Buck said. "It was just in my locker." Piazza's No. 31 has not been seen on a Mets' jersey since 2005, his last season in Flushing before signing with the Padres. It was an amicable parting back then -- Piazza even said so in his newly released autobiography, "Long Shot" -- but his relationship with the Mets has cooled some over time, according to people familiar with the situation. What that means for the fate of the No. 31, as well as Piazza's candidacy for the Mets' Hall of Fame, is uncertain. If everything had followed the fairy-tale script, Piazza would have been elected in January to Cooperstown, which then could have paved the way for the Mets to honor him at Citi Field a few months from now -- and possibly retiring his number during that ceremony, as well. Instead, Piazza received only 57.8 percent of the vote, appearing on 329 of 569 ballots, and landed far short of the 75 percent needed for induction. Though Piazza's hitting resume made him a no-brainer for Cooperstown, the cloud of PED suspicion apparently was enough to deter a large segment of BBWAA voters. As for the Mets, the jury is still out. The committee for the franchise's own Hall of Fame has yet to meet on any of this year's candidates, including Piazza, but the Mets weren't thrilled by some of the catcher's comments about the club in "Long Shot." COO Jeff Wilpon, who has the last word on both the Hall of Fame's recommendations and the retired numbers, was criticized in the book as Piazza claimed Wilpon urged him to play with an injury in a spring training game because it was a sellout. Piazza also ripped longtime media relations director Jay Horwitz, who happens to be a member of the Mets' HOF committee, for not doing a better job of shielding the team's players. "I felt he was more loyal to the writers and the broadcasters than he was to the players," Piazza wrote. Are a few stinging sentences enough for one of the Mets' most popular stars of the past two decades to be alienated? That depends. Piazza also declined an invitation to attend SNY's unveiling of the team's 50 greatest players last year (he was No. 6) and team officials buzzed about that dis for months. There is little -- if any -- communication these days between Piazza and the Mets, who are confused as to why he's pulled away to this degree. In the meantime, the No. 31 stays on the shelf. The Mets have only four retired numbers: Tom Seaver (41), Gil Hodges (14), Casey Stengel (37) and Jackie Robinson (42). In addition to Piazza, they have two other numbers in limbo, as in not retired but out of circulation: Gary Carter's No. 8 and the No. 24, famously worn by Willie Mays in Flushing but last donned by Rickey Henderson as both a player (2000) and coach (2007). As one Mets person explained, the team's Hall of Fame does not have to be tied to what transpired this winter in relation to Cooperstown. In fact, Piazza failing on the first ballot might actually nudge the Mets to induct him into the Flushing Hall, which currently has 26 members. John Franco was admitted last season. Back in 2010, the Mets inducted Darryl Strawberry, Dwight Gooden, Davey Johnson and Frank Cashen. The odds are that Piazza's percentage for Cooperstown will climb in the coming years, perhaps helped by a more lax attitude toward the so-called Steroid Era over time. If he ever does get in, Piazza likely would be fitted with a Mets cap based on the length of his tenure in New York and the impact he made there. But how his former club chooses to treat Piazza's legacy in the coming months will be interesting to see. Other than a few stray T-shirts, Piazza has been mostly ignored in these parts recently, like a distant relative. And that's not a good thing for him or the Mets. http://www.newsday.com/sports/columnist ... -1.4744940

Edgy MD Mar 04 2013 10:34 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

How is the 7 Line getting it's stuff into players' lockers and onto their backs without them knowing how they got there?

Ceetar Mar 04 2013 12:10 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Edgy MD wrote: How is the 7 Line getting it's stuff into players' lockers and onto their backs without them knowing how they got there? Clearly one of the other players put it there. I believe he sends some of them a bunch of stuff, so one of them probably figured the catcher should have the catcher shirt, or it wasn't his size, or something.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 04 2013 02:24 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

MRI indicates that Nieuwenhuis has a bone bruise in his knee. He's expected to be out for a week.

Frayed Knot Mar 04 2013 02:27 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Benjamin Grimm wrote: MRI indicates that Nieuwenhuis has a bone bruise in his knee. He's expected to be out for a week. Wasn't that the original diagnosis for Ike too?

Edgy MD Mar 04 2013 02:30 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Well, that was the ankle, but I hear that's connected to the shin bone which is connected to the knee bone, so... . I guess this benefits Jordany Valdespin the most.

Ceetar Mar 04 2013 02:38 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Frayed Knot wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: MRI indicates that Nieuwenhuis has a bone bruise in his knee. He's expected to be out for a week. Wasn't that the original diagnosis for Ike too? Ike's was the ankle, and it turned out he had cartilidge damage. While I supposed that's still possible with Nieuwenhuis, it's probably just the week.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 04 2013 04:45 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Edgy MD wrote: Well, that was the ankle, but I hear that's connected to the shin bone which is connected to the knee bone, so... . I guess this benefits Jordany Valdespin the most. Not Den Dekker, y'think? Might not be bad to bring on a guy who can be of some use caddying for Duda AND Byrd (presumably), along with splitting time with Cowgill against righties.

Ceetar Mar 04 2013 06:51 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Well, that was the ankle, but I hear that's connected to the shin bone which is connected to the knee bone, so... . I guess this benefits Jordany Valdespin the most. Not Den Dekker, y'think? Might not be bad to bring on a guy who can be of some use caddying for Duda AND Byrd (presumably), along with splitting time with Cowgill against righties. den Dekker isn't presumed to be able (if ever) to hit Major League pitching. Valdespin has at least shown some ability to do that, plus Alderson said "Don't rule Valdespin out". Also, 40 man roster. But I think it benefits no one, because Kirk will be ready.

Edgy MD Mar 04 2013 07:53 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

dD needs to hit a least a little in AAA before he gets a chance at New Shea, I think, but sure, his prospects are looking better today than yesterday. Cowgill had the team made either way, I think.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 05 2013 11:20 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Kejia has "problems with his physical" and is headed back to NY. Drugs? Heart condition? Ulnar collateral gone missing?

Edgy MD Mar 05 2013 11:33 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

That's too bad about Kejia. Who's Kejia? Oh, wait... Mejia?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 05 2013 11:37 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

My typing is only getting worse.

Edgy MD Mar 05 2013 11:55 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

I was hoping it was a new dude I didn't know about.

Ashie62 Mar 05 2013 04:02 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

The only prescription for the OF is more Cowgill.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 05 2013 06:36 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Andy Martino saying that the Mets expect Santana to open the season on the DL.

Ceetar Mar 06 2013 06:12 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Andy Martino saying that the Mets expect Santana to open the season on the DL. Martino's a troll. And of course, that could simply mean he'll be the fifth guy to pitch and the DL means nothing.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 06 2013 07:23 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Do you mean that Martino lives under a bridge and threatens billy goats?

MFS62 Mar 06 2013 09:38 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

According to ESPN New York, Mejia is being examined for a "thyroid problem". I wonder if Jose Reyes left Thyroid problems in the clubhouse as his legacy. Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 06 2013 12:52 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

That' s what happens when you neglect to wash the inside of your Adam's apple, kids.

Frayed Knot Mar 07 2013 10:11 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

TJ surgery for Cardinal SS Raphael Furcal - out for season

Edgy MD Mar 07 2013 10:21 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

TJ surgery for non-pitchers is weird.

Ashie62 Mar 10 2013 05:06 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Terry says hes ok with Santana on the DL 4/1 but they are not planning it... uh..no disrespect but a Santana DL stint here is a lock.

Ceetar Mar 10 2013 08:22 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Ashie62 wrote: Terry says hes ok with Santana on the DL 4/1 but they are not planning it... uh..no disrespect but a Santana DL stint here is a lock. hardly.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 10 2013 08:52 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Ashie62 wrote: Terry says hes ok with Santana on the DL 4/1 but they are not planning it... uh..no disrespect but a Santana DL stint here is a lock. [Places call to the Palms' "That's Kinda Fucked Up" Sports Book]

Frayed Knot Mar 11 2013 06:29 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Pujols gets "courtesy" runners. The Angels have asked, and opposing managers so far have agreed, to allow Albert Pujols to stay in the game even after being replaced by a runner if and when he reaches base. The tactic, well known to those who play in weekend softball leagues, has been in effect in each of the three games AP has appeared in to date this spring although only was put into use in the 3rd game due to Albert's lone hit in the first two being an HR (I presume he was made to jog out the tater although the article doesn't specifically mention that).

Edgy MD Mar 11 2013 07:13 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

The rule, I believe, is still available to major league managers during actual games. Hasn't happened in over sixty years, though, so maybe not. http://retrosheet.org/courtesy.htm

Frayed Knot Mar 11 2013 07:21 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

I had no idea that this practice was legal at one time - and am particularly surprised it ran to as late as 1950. One could only imagine the "injuries" or other circumstances that would occur today which would warrant a courtesy runner if still legal; every slow guy who ever got on base during a game within five runs would suddenly require medical and/or equipment attention.

Edgy MD Mar 11 2013 07:26 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Well, yeah, that's why the opponent manager has to agree, and why (if it's still on the books), it hasn't been used in decades. If there's a sniff of a competitive advantage, the opposing manager has to walk away.

Edgy MD Mar 11 2013 07:28 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

6/8/1887 Louisville at Baltimore (AA) – In the third inning, Hub Collins tripled and sprained his leg. Chicken Wolf took his place on the base and scored on a hit by Pete Browning." Wolf then hit in his own spot in the batting order, immediately after Browning, and flew out to RF. At the beginning of the fourth, there was controversy as to who would replace Collins. Louisville's manager Kick Kelly wanted to substitute Guy Hecker, thus giving Louisville a potential fresh pitching arm, but Baltimore captain Oyster Burns protested this move and as a result, Lave Cross was placed in RF and Wolf moved to left. It's like we don't care about names anymore.

Frayed Knot Mar 11 2013 07:56 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Well, yeah, that's why the opponent manager has to agree, and why (if it's still on the books), it hasn't been used in decades. If there's a sniff of a competitive advantage, the opposing manager has to walk away. That link of yours states that it hasn't been allowed since 1950 and specifically say that the umps shouldn't have allowed it in 1952 the one time it was used since then (presumably opposing manager approved or not). The general softball rule is "last batted out" is the sub runner, based on the idea that he is the least likely player to come up anytime soon so you hopefully avoid the situation where his time at bat comes around while he's still on base CR-ing for his teammate. Some squads try to circumvent the rule where they try to get the youngest/fastest guy to CR each time one is needed in effect dividing their roster into three categories: guys who need runners, those who serve as C-runners, and then those who don't need CRs but they don't want them to be CRs if they should happen to be the last batted out when an injured (see also: fat, lame, old, lazy, hung-over) guy gets on base. Such practices are both frowned upon and not legal but, since few teams generally keep the book on the other side, sometimes you can get away with it. Definitely need more guys named 'Oyster' in MLB.

Ceetar Mar 11 2013 08:09 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

6/8/1887 Louisville at Baltimore (AA) – In the third inning, Hub Collins tripled and sprained his leg. Chicken Wolf took his place on the base and scored on a hit by Pete Browning." Wolf then hit in his own spot in the batting order, immediately after Browning, and flew out to RF. At the beginning of the fourth, there was controversy as to who would replace Collins. Louisville's manager Kick Kelly wanted to substitute Guy Hecker, thus giving Louisville a potential fresh pitching arm, but Baltimore captain Oyster Burns protested this move and as a result, Lave Cross was placed in RF and Wolf moved to left. It's like we don't care about names anymore. Takes time. I think in 50 years or so, we're gonna be looking back at some of these weird names with the same.."names were cooler back then" or something. Here are a few of the highlights from Baby Center's very strange list: Girls: Fashion-conscious: Couture, Fedora Rolling Stones fans: Jagger Altered names: Joshitha J-names: J'adore, Jazzy, Jeevika, Juju, Jury Aspirational: Ace, Admire, Excel, Monalisa, Oasis, Queenie Places: Americus, California, Zealand Just plain weird: Inny, Yoga Boys: Aspirational: Bond, Casanova, Jedi, Legacy, Popeye, Rogue, Elite Nirvana fans: Cobain Altered names: Devid, Donathan, Villem, Xenon, Zaniel Religious: Exodus, Savior Dad picked this: Espn, Burger, Ball Just plain weird: Cello, Drifter, Four, Goodluck, Google, Haven'T, Hippo, HToo, Pate

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 11 2013 08:23 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Edgy MD wrote: 6/8/1887 Louisville at Baltimore (AA) – In the third inning, Hub Collins tripled and sprained his leg. Chicken Wolf took his place on the base and scored on a hit by Pete Browning." Wolf then hit in his own spot in the batting order, immediately after Browning, and flew out to RF. At the beginning of the fourth, there was controversy as to who would replace Collins. Louisville's manager Kick Kelly wanted to substitute Guy Hecker, thus giving Louisville a potential fresh pitching arm, but Baltimore captain Oyster Burns protested this move and as a result, Lave Cross was placed in RF and Wolf moved to left. It's like we don't care about names anymore. Oyster Burns protested everything. He was a mean bastard who once stabbed his own teammate in the leg with a pen knife. PS, it's believed he was only called "Oyster" after his career to distinguish him from another player who was also known by his given name Tommy Burns. Kick Kelly is a hell of a name though.

Edgy MD Mar 11 2013 08:26 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Aspirational: Bond, Casanova, Jedi, Legacy, Popeye, Rogue, Elite Nirvana fans: Cobain Altered names: Devid, Donathan, Villem, Xenon, Zaniel Religious: Exodus, Savior Dad picked this: Espn, Burger, Ball Just plain weird: Cello, Drifter, Four, Goodluck, Google, Haven'T, Hippo, HToo, Pate Well, "Goodluck" is the first name of Nigeria's president. Once a name gets attached to a president, it's in the zeitgeist and it's not going away any time soon.

Ceetar Mar 11 2013 08:27 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Kick Kelly is a hell of a name though. a little misogynistic though.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 16 2013 01:47 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Associated Press wrote: Mets' Justin Turner sprains right ankle PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. (AP) -- Justin Turner, the leading candidate to replace injured David Wright at third base for the Mets, left New York's game against the Miami Marlins on Saturday after spraining his right ankle. The Mets said Turner was taken to a hospital for precautionary X-rays. Turner made a nice play on a hard-hit grounder by Justin Ruggiano, and his left leg buckled and his right foot turned awkwardly when he tried to throw to first. Turner was limping badly and was replaced by Brandon Hicks. ''I think just getting up, going to make the throw, I caught my front spike on the lip of the grass and then in order to try to catch my balance, all my weight went on my right foot and I turned it over,'' Turner said. ''I don't think it's too bad, though. I was able to walk off on my own, and it's not too swollen so, hopefully, as long as it doesn't blow up overnight and get too bad, it will just be a couple days.'' Turner said he has sprained both ankles several times in the past. ''That's one reason I don't feel like this one's too bad because I've had some pretty bad ones,'' he said. Wright has a left intercostal muscle strain and is expected to rest for up to four days before he is reevaluated.

Frayed Knot Mar 16 2013 02:19 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Now that damn WBC is injuring people who aren't even in it!!

vtmet Mar 16 2013 05:57 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Frayed Knot wrote: Now that damn WBC is injuring people who aren't even in it!! lol...I was just thinking that...if it wasn't for Mr Horse getting injured at the WBC, DW wouldn't have felt compelled to play through his soreness, and we wouldn't have had Turner boning up on his 3B play in case DW's injury is longer term than they initially state...so therefore, Turner's injury can indirectly be attributed to the WBC, Torre and Texieria....

Ashie62 Mar 16 2013 06:42 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Come on down Zach Lutz.....SHOWCASE YOURSELF BITCH!!!!

Edgy MD Mar 16 2013 06:45 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Turner's a big admirer of Jeter.

vtmet Mar 18 2013 06:08 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

vtmet wrote: Now that damn WBC is injuring people who aren't even in it!! lol...I was just thinking that...if it wasn't for Mr Horse getting injured at the WBC, DW wouldn't have felt compelled to play through his soreness, and we wouldn't have had Turner boning up on his 3B play in case DW's injury is longer term than they initially state...so therefore, Turner's injury can indirectly be attributed to the WBC, Torre and Texieria.... Apparently, the WBC claimed another player (that didn't play in the WBC): http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/mar ... y-injured/ The curse of Team USA By Dennis Lin11:02 A.M.MARCH 18, 2013 Chase Headley shouldn't be back in San Diego today, seeing a thumb specialist. He shouldn't have even been in Tempe on Sunday, playing in a game against the Angels. The Padres' best player jammed his left thumb in that game, an injury sustained in a meaningless exhibition. Well, not completely meaningless -- there is, after all, a regular season to prep for -- but when you consider that Headley should have been playing for pride and his country, not making an ill-fated slide thousands of miles away, an already bleak picture becomes a whole lot bleaker. He can thank his own countrymen for that. Another early exit by Team USA in the World Baseball Classic kept Headley in Arizona. Had the Americans not been eliminated by Puerto Rico on Friday, Headley would have boarded a plane, ready to join Padres teammate Luke Gregerson and replace the injured David Wright on the roster. Today, he was on a plane, all right, bracing himself for a visit to the doctor's. Like Wright, he's injured too, and he didn't even get a chance to represent his country. And now he might not be ready for Opening Day. Thanks, Team USA.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 20 2013 04:55 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Marcum to miss another st start, getting cortisone shot for shoulder etc etc etc

Ashie62 Mar 20 2013 05:30 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

That doesnt sound good... I am behind..Is Murphy coming around? Thanks

Ashie62 Mar 21 2013 11:57 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

I guess this is the official on Marcum.. We start with Niese Harvey Gee and need to find two... Hefner would be one most likely.. McHugh over Laffey I hope.. or start the clock on Wheeler now... [url]http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/21918704/mets-shaun-marcum-out-after-receiving-cortisone-shot-in-shoulder

Edgy MD Mar 21 2013 12:01 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Consensus reports have Laughey ahead of McHugh at this point.

TransMonk Mar 21 2013 12:08 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Guys and Ronnie are saying on the broadcast that Terry still expects Marcum to make his next ST start and not miss time. We'll see.

Ashie62 Mar 21 2013 01:19 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Edgy MD wrote: Consensus reports have Laughey ahead of McHugh at this point. That they do...just my personal preforance if Marcum can't go..

Edgy MD Mar 24 2013 03:18 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Den Dekker. Wrist X-Rays. Say what you want about Jordany, but if he's the last man standing, he's the last man standing. Bean him in the balls, and he's back at it the next day. No small thing.

Swan Swan H Mar 24 2013 03:58 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

X-rays are positive. Broken wrist, surgery possible.

MFS62 Mar 24 2013 05:36 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Swan Swan H wrote: X-rays are positive. Broken wrist, surgery possible. Crap! Later

Ashie62 Mar 24 2013 05:40 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

There is a bone that typically goes in your wrsit when you break your fall..That is the schaphoid...12 weeks in a cast after surgery should that be the case.

themetfairy Mar 24 2013 06:04 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

I wonder whether he'll opt for a cast like this - Heal quickly Matt!

bmfc1 Mar 24 2013 06:39 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Swan Swan H wrote: X-rays are positive. Broken wrist, surgery possible. Awful. One of the few reasons I had a modicum of hope for the Mets. Now we get more of Sandy's AAAA Crap.

Edgy MD Mar 24 2013 06:53 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Sizzlin' hate. Come on. He was hardly a lock to make the roster. Or that he was any more likely to appear as AAAA crap after a few weeks than Nieuwenhuis, neither of who were brought the organization by Alderson. Somebody got hurt. It happens everywhere.

bmfc1 Mar 24 2013 07:09 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

He wasn't going to "go north" next week but I wanted him to. He is a Gold Glove fielder on a team with very few positive attributes. We now get more of the players that Standpat Sandy cultivates. Yeah, shit happens but it didn't happen to Brian Bixler, it happened to someone that I liked.

Edgy MD Mar 24 2013 07:19 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

I guess I'll just let that logic stand or fall on its own.

bmfc1 Mar 24 2013 07:29 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

I'm sorry if it was too emotional a response. I'll be more dispassionate and laissez faire whenever a half-decent Met gets hurt. "C'est La Vie!"

Ashie62 Mar 24 2013 07:36 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

bmfc1 wrote: He wasn't going to "go north" next week but I wanted him to. He is a Gold Glove fielder on a team with very few positive attributes. We now get more of the players that Standpat Sandy cultivates. Yeah, shit happens but it didn't happen to Brian Bixler, it happened to someone that I liked. Gold Glove fielder...at what level...His loss will not make or break the team...

bmfc1 Mar 24 2013 07:48 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Ashie62 wrote: Gold Glove fielder...at what level...His loss will not make or break the team... You're right! C'est La Vie!

Swan Swan H Mar 25 2013 01:09 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

themetfairy wrote: I wonder whether he'll opt for a cast like this - Heal quickly Matt! Close. No surgery, four weeks in a Metly barber pole of a cast.

Ashie62 Mar 25 2013 01:20 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Heck, he might be up before Captain Kirk..

Zvon Mar 25 2013 04:33 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Swan Swan H wrote: X-rays are positive. Broken wrist, surgery possible. Holy shite! I had this game on TV but only watched little bits of it. Missed that. Did see his fine catch in the 1st. Found this out when I picked up todays paper. I'm not sure why but I've always been okay with players who have great gloves but not great bats. I always felt at certain positions a team could afford that. On the other hand a good hitting player who can't field on the MLB level really bugs me, no matter what position. Don't know what that's all about, haven't giving it much thought.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 26 2013 10:48 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Shaun Marcum faces possible DL trip http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_ ... ing-injury Riveting. Yawn.

TransMonk Mar 26 2013 12:13 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Hefner just took a ground ball off his elbow in the top of the 4th and came out of the game against the Cards. Somewhere, Chris Young is smiling.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 26 2013 12:15 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Throwing elbow or glove elbow?

Zvon Mar 26 2013 12:18 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Throwing elbow or glove elbow? Throwing. Beltran hit it.

Zvon Mar 26 2013 02:19 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

X-rays on Hef are negative.

Ashie62 Mar 26 2013 03:57 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Sandy attended Young's outing today.

Frayed Knot Mar 26 2013 04:07 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Reportedly the Mets have had a scout or two at all of Young's recent outings. He is refusing the option of the Nats sending him down to AAA and is thus free to try and strike his own deal elsewhere. Between Santana maybe not being close to ready and Hefner getting hit around today it wouldn't surprise me to see him back. He's had a good spring for whatever that's worth.

Ashie62 Mar 26 2013 04:11 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

I've liked Chris Young since that game where he tripled and such..

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 02 2013 05:45 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Shawn "It's Nothing, I Know My Own Body" Marcum unable to answer the bell for a simulated game, won't start Sunday after all.

Edgy MD Apr 02 2013 07:11 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

I'll be honest. My ability to distinguish among Jeremy Hefner, Justin Hampson, and Chris Schwinden has been compromised all along. If not for the Wifey Watch thread, they'd be one big AAAA shuttle-riding swingman abstract concept in my head. Maybe Jay Horwitz's ass needs to call Nelson Figueroa.

Fman99 Apr 02 2013 07:47 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Shawn "It's Nothing, I Know My Own Body" Marcum unable to answer the bell for a simulated game, won't start Sunday after all.

Frayed Knot Apr 05 2013 12:44 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

O's 2nd baseman Brian Robers can't seem to catch a break. A two-time All Star and regularly a 150+ game/year player earlier in his career, the last four seasons have seen him total ~450 ABs total (and just 76 over the last two seasons). He was carried off the field yesterday in his 3rd game after a 5-for-12 start with what is now being diagnosed as a ruptured tendon in his knee - although at the moment they're saying no surgery and he'll be out just 3-4 weeks.

Zvon Apr 09 2013 12:25 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Not sure where to post this so I'll post it here. Maine Speaks Out Re: Mets Training Staff. [url]http://mets360.com/?p=15839

Edgy MD Apr 09 2013 12:36 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

There's some crazy misreporting in that blog. For one, it makes Warthan's statement seem like it comes in response to Maine's recent Times comments, when it was said after Maine's fate-sealing start about Maine's insisting that he was OK to pitch when he wasn't. It's also a little incomplete. The full comment was, "John is a habitual liar, in a lot of ways, as far as his own health." (The Times link has the full quote and the correct timeline.) It also unfairly conflates the team's training staff, diagnostic physicians and rehabilitation team.

Ceetar Apr 09 2013 12:45 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Not sure where to post this so I'll post it here. Maine Speaks Out Re: Mets Training Staff. [url]http://mets360.com/?p=15839 I can't believe Warthen gets a pass for that (not to mention he basically indicts himself in the same statement, saying it was on them to realize Maine wasn't 100% and you know, not put him out there and second guess yourself 5 pitches in). and Manuel making jokes about pitching lefty and on off-days in response to Maine trying to work through pain.. But media blow back and what not, it has nothing to do with the training staff as much as doctors. Maybe they should've diagnosed it earlier, or shut him down earlier, but he's admitting he fought to pitch anyway. “At the time I had M.R.I.’s, and they didn’t know I had tears in my capsule,” Maine said. “You get a cortisone shot here, a cortisone shot there. Other than going in and looking at my shoulder with a surgeon, there was nothing really more you could have done. The only thing I could have said was, ‘Hey, I’m not throwing hard anymore, so I’ll quit.’ It was a weird situation. I was hurt, but I wanted to play.” All the reports of his surgery say he had a lesion or growth removed, or to clear scar tissue. But it sounds like the problem might have been more akin to what Santana has gone through. The recovery time fits too. As I recall, he went to a different doctor and they had an MRI done in a different way that revealed something that was hidden in a normal MRI. This articlesuggests Maine had a capsule tear as well.

Zvon Apr 09 2013 12:47 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Edgy MD wrote: There's some crazy misreporting in that blog. For one, it makes Warthan's statement seem like it comes in response to Maine's recent Times comments, when it was said after Maine's fate-sealing start about Maine's insisting that he was OK to pitch when he wasn't. It's also a little incomplete. The full comment was, "John is a habitual liar, in a lot of ways, as far as his own health." (The Times link has the full quote and the correct timeline.) It also unfairly conflates the team's training staff, diagnostic physicians, and rehabilitation team. I agree. And I've always thought of the problems being with the medical side of the staff as opposed to the training side.

metirish Apr 09 2013 12:51 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Edgy MD wrote: There's some crazy misreporting in that blog. For one, it makes Warthan's statement seem like it comes in response to Maine's recent Times comments, when it was said after Maine's fate-sealing start about Maine's insisting that he was OK to pitch when he wasn't. It's also a little incomplete. The full comment was, "John is a habitual liar, in a lot of ways, as far as his own health." (The Times link has the full quote and the correct timeline.) It also unfairly conflates the team's training staff, diagnostic physicians, and rehabilitation team. Yeah really...... and this Without getting involved in the he said-he said drama that always emerges via media outlets, this does make fans wonder if it is merely an isolated incident. right , you wouldn't want to call Dan when you can drag out a years old quote , he said indeed .

Farmer Ted Apr 09 2013 12:52 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Jered Weaver breaks his elbow on his NON throwing arm. It appears he whipped it up real good with the follow-through on one of his pitches and threw the whole thing out of whack. Effing weird.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 09 2013 01:01 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

That whole Warthen quote has become legend among the Ill-Informed Fanbois of the Twitterverse.

metsmarathon Apr 09 2013 01:24 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

i always felt that comment was far less negative than it was made out to be. i guess i focus on the latter half of it, where warthen calls him a warrior and a competitor, and implies that john would not beg out of a game, but that it's up to the staff to notice when there's something wrong with their players and when they need to be taken out or kept out.

Frayed Knot Apr 12 2013 07:02 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Zack Grienke hits Carlos Quentin with pitch - Quentin charges the mound - Grienke winds up on bottom of pile with a broken collarbone (non throwing arm) That's one very large (and always questionable) contract that's off to a rocky start.

TransMonk Apr 12 2013 08:53 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

The benches and bullpens empty twice...The Huffington Post as great video that proves that Vin Scully is the best announcer in the game as he sorts it out on the air. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/1 ... 66278.html

Edgy MD Apr 12 2013 08:58 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

I think the breakage occurred on that initial shoulder to shoulder collision. Listen to Scully building fan sentiment against Mike Piazza in that play-by-play.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 12 2013 09:29 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

And then Matt Kemp went all enforcer on Quentin, post-game. BLOOD IN, BLOOD OUT, 'LOS!

Edgy MD Apr 12 2013 09:36 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Matt Kemp nickname: "The Bison." Carlos Quentin nickname: "TCQ" ("The Carlos Quentin") We'll see, bitch.

Frayed Knot Apr 12 2013 10:56 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

You wonder how Matt Kemp's tattooed grandmother feels about being in the presence of such threats and violence.

The Second Spitter Apr 13 2013 04:14 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Jose Abdullah Al-Reyeziz to the DL http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/91663 ... ity-royals

Centerfield Apr 13 2013 05:36 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

I was pretty pissed at Jose when he left and found myself rooting for him to have a shit season last year with the Marlins. Yesterday though, I found myself really hoping he was ok. Trade for Reyes now while his value is low.

Edgy MD Apr 13 2013 09:05 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Anybody else notice Matt Kemp pulling his shirt front up and flapping it as if the only way to calm himself down was cool off his groin area? About 2/3 of the way through the Sculy video. Don't tell Keith, but there's a woman in the Dodger dugout.

Frayed Knot Apr 13 2013 10:41 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Edgy MD wrote: Don't tell Keith, but there's a woman in the Dodger dugout. She's their head trainer.

metirish Apr 18 2013 10:37 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Jared Diamond (@jareddiamond) tweeted at 0:26 PM on Thu, Apr 18, 2013: Travis d'Arnaud suffered a non displaced fracture in his left foot last night. No timetable for return. (https://twitter.com/jareddiamond/status ... 1360148480) Get the official Twitter app at https://twitter.com/download

metirish Apr 18 2013 10:44 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Tim Marchman (@timmarchman) tweeted at 0:34 PM on Thu, Apr 18, 2013: Travis d'Arnaud averaged 84 games the last three years. I'm starting to sense a pattern here. (https://twitter.com/timmarchman/status/ ... 4948050944) Get the official Twitter app at https://twitter.com/download

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 18 2013 10:56 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Yeah, his weak foot bones cannot withstand baseballs being smashed into them. It's clearly a trend.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 18 2013 11:11 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Now we'll never get Stanton.

metirish Apr 18 2013 11:17 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Just download the official twitter app for fucks sake.

Edgy MD Apr 18 2013 11:23 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Makes the reinforcing of the trade with the Buck/Thole swap even more fascinating.

Zvon Apr 18 2013 12:54 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

How depressing would this be if Buck didn't get off to his great start. It's still a bummer but at least some things are going our way.

Centerfield Apr 18 2013 01:01 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

It's still depressing. Buck's start is nice but we know it's not really going to last. This sucks BHMC.

Gwreck Apr 18 2013 02:15 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Edgy MD wrote: Makes the reinforcing of the trade with the Buck/Thole swap even more fascinating. Wait, what made you think the inclusion of Buck was anything more than salary dump?

Edgy MD Apr 18 2013 02:29 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Sure. The Blue Jays wanted catchers with experience handling the knuckler. The Mets had two. The Mets wanted a vet who could hold the position until d'Atartagnan was ready, and maybe mentor and/or back him up once he arrived. (Indeed, they needed one, with Thole jettisoned.) Salary is certainly a factor (it always is), but clearly there were talent assessments involved too.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 18 2013 02:30 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

If the Mets were figuring that d'Arnaud wouldn't (or might not) be ready in April, then they'd need a big league catcher. Who in their organization would have fit that bill? I think that's the main reason why Buck was included.

Ceetar Apr 18 2013 07:06 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Benjamin Grimm wrote: If the Mets were figuring that d'Arnaud wouldn't (or might not) be ready in April, then they'd need a big league catcher. Who in their organization would have fit that bill? I think that's the main reason why Buck was included. Well Thole, but if they were going for a one-dimensional catcher I guess they figured Buck would help with the power element. What's interesting now is when d'Arnaud is recovered and playing again if he gets called up. I say no, that they're still consistent with wanting him to get some reps in the minors. And that's why the injury sucks for the Mets in June/July more than it's a big deal now. But if service time was the only thing keeping him down, he probably wasn't coming back before he was recovered from this injury anyway so all we're losing is him 'biding his time' in the minors.

Gwreck Apr 18 2013 10:17 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Benjamin Grimm wrote: If the Mets were figuring that d'Arnaud wouldn't (or might not) be ready in April, then they'd need a big league catcher. Who in their organization would have fit that bill? I think that's the main reason why Buck was included. I doubt the Mets ever gave any consideration whatsoever to starting the 2013 season with D'Arnaud. I suppose my point is that they could've stuck with Thole/Nickeas/Recker rather than taking on Buck's salary. The part mentioned above about the Blue Jays needing to acquire catchers with knuckleball experience in the Dickey-D'Arnaud trade is belied by the fact that neither Thole nor Nickeas made their roster. (Perhaps they figured out what Mets fans already knew about their major-league worthiness.) Instead, Toronto signed Henry Blanco, who has been catching Dickey's starts.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 19 2013 08:20 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Dickey btw had a good start and his second W yesterday.

Edgy MD Apr 19 2013 02:44 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Report has eight weeks and no surgery for d'Arnaud. So I guess we're looking at a minimum of four months, possibly the season, what with the strong possibility of surgery and all.

Gwreck Apr 19 2013 02:53 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

It would be funny if it wasn't true so often.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 19 2013 02:54 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Or, if we decide to be optimistic and consider that the estimate might be accurate, the soonest we'd see him with the Mets would probably be late July.

Ceetar Apr 19 2013 03:06 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

you know, just judging by the Rob Johnson/Matt Harvey thing last year, I wonder if it's entirely possible we see d'Arnaud and Wheeler the same time. They're not looking to have a ton of exposure to each other at this point, but it's not like Rob Johnson had caught Harvey for years either..

Ashie62 Apr 19 2013 04:38 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Missed the D'Arnaud injury..crap..but at least it's not the knees...

Edgy MD May 10 2013 02:10 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Mike Kerwick ?@mikekerwick 1m Collins said Familia won't pitch tonight. DL possible. #mets What happened to Jeurys?

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 10 2013 02:27 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Biceps tendonitis? Velocity down in last appearance.

Edgy MD May 10 2013 02:37 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Looks like it. Sounds like a pretext to re-launch the Francisco Missile also.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 14 2013 11:49 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Achoosin to DL; Colin McHugh recalled.

batmagadanleadoff May 15 2013 09:25 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Northjersey.com : Sports Mets notes: Zack Wheeler injured Wheeler hurts clavicle One day after general manager Sandy Alderson said Zack Wheeler could be in the big leagues before the end of June, the team announced that Wheeler likely will miss his next minor league start. Wheeler has soreness in his right clavicle, assistant general manager John Ricco said. Wheeler will fly to New York to get it examined. Ricco said Wheeler could miss his next start with Class AAA Las Vegas. "It was nothing that happened during his last outing," Ricco said before Tuesday’s 104 loss to the the Cardinals. "It was something he felt a couple of days after." Ricco said the team was erring on the conservative side because of Wheeler’s pedigree. He is considered the organization’s top pitching prospect. "From what I’ve heard today, it doesn’t sound serious," manager Terry Collins said. "But any time you miss a start, it’s for the best interest of the player. Again, we’ll wait to hear the doctor’s report and go from there. But if it’s only one start, that certainly is something we can handle easily." http://www.northjersey.com/sports/20749 ... jured.html

TransMonk May 15 2013 09:28 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Hrumph.

batmagadanleadoff May 15 2013 09:28 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Wheeler, Mets’ Top Pitching Prospect, to Miss Next Start By ANDREW KEH ST. LOUIS — The proper level of concern will become clearer Wednesday, but regardless, it was precisely the type of injury news the Mets and their fans did not want to hear. Those seeking some silver lining from this dispiriting Mets season could always remind themselves that Zack Wheeler, the organization’s top pitching prospect, would be joining the major league team sometime this summer. It was disconcerting to hear, then, that Wheeler was scheduled to visit team doctors in New York on Wednesday after reporting soreness around his right clavicle earlier this week. “I think we’re being a little bit conservative, given who it is,” John Ricco, the team’s assistant general manager, said upon delivering the news Tuesday afternoon. Ricco added, “It’s kind of an odd area, so we just wanted to make sure.” Wheeler, a 22-year-old right-hander, will miss his next start for the Mets’ Class AAA team. But, like Ricco, the Mets’ coaching staff tried to play down the severity of the issue. It appeared to be a case of a team taking extra care handling a prized asset. “I hate to speculate, but I’ve never heard of anything horrible around that area,” said the pitching coach, Dan Warthen, who noted that the left-hander Jon Niese and third baseman David Wright both complained of soreness around the same area earlier this season, with neither experiencing any significant or lasting problems. “It could be from sleeping on your pillow wrong.” Wheeler has made eight starts for the Las Vegas 51s and has appeared to find a groove of late. During his last start, he allowed only two runs over seven and a third innings. Wheeler’s progress has been closely watched, particularly as the Mets have floundered during this young season. Coincidentally, catcher Travis d’Arnaud, the organization’s top position player prospect, has an appointment to see doctors this week. He sustained a fractured bone in his foot in a minor league game in April and is awaiting clearance to remove a walking boot and begin physical rehabilitation. Referring to Wheeler, Manager Terry Collins said: “From what I’ve heard today, it doesn’t sound serious. We’ll wait to hear the doctor’s report and go from there. But if it’s only one start, that’s something we can handle.” http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/1 ... ext-start/

Edgy MD May 15 2013 09:35 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Right clavicle? That's too close to the Johan zone for my comfort. I'll not sleep well tonight.

Ceetar May 15 2013 09:38 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Edgy MD wrote: Right clavicle? That's too close to the Johan zone for my comfort. I'll not sleep well tonight. well, we should hear today. Sounds like no big deal if it is indeed the clavicle, but you're right, pitchers are often just guessing where the pain is and if they're off slightly..

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 15 2013 09:48 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

This puts a crimp in my plan to write a post advocating we send down Ike, Carson and Gee for Satin, Leathersich & Wheeler.

Benjamin Grimm May 15 2013 11:12 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

One way or another, Gee ought to come out of the rotation. If Marcum poops all over himself again tonight, then he should be gone too. I'd give Hefner a little more rope. Niese, I think, needs some rest. Unfortunately they can't fill all of these spots with just Collin McHugh, and that's about all they have. Hopefully Wheeler's thing is nothing much and he can join the rotation in the next couple of weeks.

Edgy MD May 15 2013 11:22 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

It's hard to argue who goes out when three fifths of the rotation is failing. Three and half, to be more fair. But yeah, McHugh is there to take somebody's job.

Ceetar May 15 2013 11:55 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

I think it's hard to argue anybody goes out when the three guys all have significant samples that suggest they're better than this. Isn't the chance that they turn it around more consistently higher than picking someone to replace them? I'm all for Collin McHugh getting another chance, but it's not like he's shone in his opportunities.

Edgy MD May 15 2013 12:05 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Warren Spahn has a significant sample of success too. Eventually it's more about what you've done lately. I imagine any bumped from the rotation won't be planned as a permanent jetisonning, but the plan has to be to win games, so you've got to try something. And McHugh's lack of success as a big leaguer so far is quite comparable to the recent performance of most of the Mets' starting rotation. This is part of what really made Casey Stengel stand out, I think. The general attitude about managers is to show loyalty by sticking with his guys through rough spells. His notion was that loyalty was best shown by giving his team the best chance to win every day, and he was so quick to pull a starter from the rotation that his starting staff was usually Ford, Reynolds (mostly), and whoever was hot. That may not be why he won, but he had the greatest run of any manager ever with that policy. So I'm in favor of swapping out starters pretty liberally. I'm with Casey.

Benjamin Grimm May 15 2013 12:13 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Marcum and Gee are recovering from injuries, surgeries, whatever. So even if they were once better than this, they may no longer be. Sure, we can give them each another start or two, but at some point they have to stop pitching to a 6+ ERA or give way to someone else. Even in a non-contending year, they should try to win games. I wouldn't release Gee; I'd instead let him work things out in the minors. Marcum too, I guess, not because he may be part of the future, but because of the $4 million.

Ceetar May 15 2013 12:20 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

To some degree. maybe Gee, but he has had some good starts this year and his one before this one wasn't bad. Really a decent offense could've won most of his starts this year, since he gave up 4 a couple of times. Short outings still, but you don't usually remedy that with new callups. Marcum only has 14 or so innings so far. They've been bad, true, but he's a better pitcher than that. And John Niese had a 3.31 ERA before the last two starts. In those six starts he had one bad one that they won in a blowout, and another that he labored through 2.1 and taxed the bullpen in that they eventually lost. (ND for Niese) I'm not buying that these are samples you suddenly demote or release a guy off of. I'm all for giving guys that are performing shots, and if that means displacing someone that may just be slumping, then fine, but that doesn't appear to be the case right now. If I had to roll the dice for a starter, I'm probably taking my chances with these guys over the other options right now. The caveat here of course is that Warthen and Collins may know more than is obvious from the stat sheet. fatigue or soreness, issues with arm slots and all that. If they've got evidence that the Jon Niese that they're throwing out there isn't really the real Jon Niese, then by all means slide someone else in.

Edgy MD May 15 2013 12:38 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Well, (1) nobody is realistically arguing for outright releases and nobody is seriously arguing that all three should/could be replaced simultaneously. So let's not distort the issue.

Frayed Knot May 15 2013 12:47 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Whoever gets bumped should be placed into long relief/emergency starter status. That serves double duty of allowing them to actually jettison one or more of the under-achieving current relievers.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 15 2013 12:49 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Let's not kid ourselves. Gee has sucked balls this year.

themetfairy May 15 2013 01:51 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Perhaps he should focus on pitching them rather than sucking them.

metsmarathon May 15 2013 01:53 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

no, i think that would be far more painful. really.

Edgy MD May 26 2013 08:10 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Andrew Brown short-circuited his potential callup by hurting his oblique. Now Lutz hurts his.

Ashie62 May 26 2013 09:20 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Maybe Ike has short circuited both of them anyway?

Edgy MD May 26 2013 09:30 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

If Flores or Satin strains an obie, we check Ike's locker for voodoo dolls.

Edgy MD Jun 03 2013 02:20 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Anybody see Ramon Ortiz's exit yesterday? He felt his elbow go --- and at 40, likely the last vestige of his now marginal career --- dropped to his knees and started crying in despair. Walked off the field sobbing. I kind of thought with the Jays having already snuck him through waivers once or twice this year, that he may end up being a 2013 Met, at least ephemerally. We've been at waiver war with the Jays for two years, it seems. Is Ortiz the last member of the Benson Bunchers? He has to be, right?

Ceetar Jun 03 2013 03:11 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

on the Mets front, d'Arnaud out of his boot. Baseball Activity time!

Ashie62 Jun 03 2013 09:11 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Awesome!

Edgy MD Jun 04 2013 08:06 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

It might be, but I think we're getting conflicting reports on the persistence of the boot.

Swan Swan H Jun 04 2013 08:27 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Edgy MD wrote: It might be, but I think we're getting conflicting reports on the persistence of the boot.

MFS62 Jun 04 2013 09:01 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

ESPN: WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. -- Jeurys Familia is headed to New York to be examined by team doctors. Familia landed on the disabled list May 12 with what has been labeled biceps tendinitis. He made a pair of rehab appearances with Class A St. Lucie before the issue resurfaced. Terry Collins recently had expressed hope Familia would be back on a mound this past weekend after letting the issue calm. Familia told ESPNNewYork.com at Palm Beach International Airport on Tuesday morning that he is not in pain -- just that he cannot fully extend his arm during his delivery. Later

Edgy MD Jun 06 2013 12:36 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Matt d. Dekker, reporting for game duty.

Lefty Specialist Jun 06 2013 02:45 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

he cannot fully extend his arm during his delivery. So I'm thinking that may be a problem.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 09 2013 01:37 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Dumped by Mets, Perez Revives His Career as Mariner By DAVID WALDSTEIN Published: June 8, 2013 Oliver Perez pitching against the Yankees last month. Through Friday, his E.R.A. was 1.29. In 2010, his last season with the Mets, his E.R.A. was 6.80. SEATTLE — At the worst moment of his career, Oliver Perez swallowed hard, blinked several times to prevent tears from forming and told reporters what all ballplayers say, even if sometimes it’s hard to believe. He claimed he still loved the game. His earned run average was over 8.00, his velocity was under 86, and every time he walked anywhere near a mound, a thunderstorm of boos assaulted his ears. Other than the money, what’s to love about that? It was March 21, 2011, and the Mets had, in the words of Perez, just fired him. He was so bad that the strapped club was willing to eat most of the $12 million it still owed him just to make him go away and stop reminding the Mets of their costly mistake — a three-year, $36 million extension for a left-handed starter they thought could win 15 to 18 games a season. Perez had been so bad the season before that the Mets tried to send him to the minor leagues, a request he rebuffed. The Mets responded by refusing to pitch him for a month, and in all, he appeared in only 17 games for the season, with an 0-5 record and a 6.80 E.R.A. In an absurd outing in the final game of 2010, he walked three batters and hit another in the 14th inning. Naturally, he took the loss. By spring training in 2011, he had become such a distraction that the Mets could no longer abide his presence. Never mind that a lingering knee injury was preventing him from throwing with his usual force. The Mets, and their fans, wanted him gone, and now he was. But before he ducked into a waiting sport utility vehicle, Perez dutifully spoke to reporters in Port St. Lucie, Fla., vowing to come back with another team. “I think when you get fired from anywhere, you feel sad,” he said. “It’s not a good moment. But you have to be stronger, you know. And my life is not done.” More than two years later, Perez has made good on his promise. After spending 18 months fighting and scraping his way through the lower levels of the professional game, Perez has reinvented himself with the Seattle Mariners and now has some of the most impressive numbers of any major league reliever. His E.R.A. is 1.17, and he has 31 strikeouts in 23 innings. “He’s been invaluable to us,” Mariners Manager Eric Wedge said. “He got his velocity back, and now he’s pitching with confidence. He’s just been huge.” His path to being an invaluable member of the Mariners actually began the day he left the Mets for good. “I couldn’t believe it,” Perez said in a recent interview. “I got home and I cried with my wife. I was in shock. But I was only 29. My family told me, ‘You are too young to quit.’ ” Two days later, Scott Boras, his agent, found Perez work with the Washington Nationals. It was not glamorous. He was assigned to Class AA Harrisburg, where he spent the season riding buses and sleeping in modest hotels. He made 15 starts and had a 3.09 earned run average. And his knee was healing. Toward the end of the season, the coaching staff in Harrisburg, realizing that Perez’s numbers against left-handed hitters had become exceptional, suggested that he consider becoming a left-handed specialist, a short reliever used primarily to retire left-handed hitters. Thinking it was the quickest way back to the majors, Perez embraced the idea. He went home to Culiacán to pitch in the Mexican Winter League and also went to work with Rafael Arroyo, a former bullpen catcher with the Mets. Perez’s career as a reliever began to take shape. “He was very vulnerable at the time,” Arroyo said. “He hadn’t had success, and he lost a lot of confidence. He was really in a do-or-die situation. It was a turning point for him. He had to give up his ego and go about as far down as you can go to get back up to where he is.” While Perez was toiling in Mexico, Boras called the Mariners and told them they had to see him. His knee was strong again and his velocity was up to 94 miles per hour. And Perez did pitch well for Culiacán, although even there, in the city of his birth, he was still susceptible to hearing the jeers that had become his soundtrack with the Mets. “I was more nervous pitching in Mexico because everybody wants you to be good all the time,” he said. “I’m the first one to get to the big leagues from that city. But sometimes, they boo me, too.” So far, he has not been booed in Seattle. He joined the Mariners last June, and in 33 games last season had a 1-3 record and a solid 2.12 E.R.A. This season, his E.R.A., after 25 appearances, is startling. Moreover, Perez, 31, says he wants to pitch until he is 40 and wants to pitch on a championship team. Maybe that will be in Seattle, or maybe somewhere else. Just not in Queens. “With these numbers, he’s going to be at minimum an eighth-inning guy like a Jeremy Affeldt,” Boras said, citing the left-handed specialist who has won two championship rings with the San Francisco Giants in the last three seasons. “He fought his way back,” Boras said of Perez. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/09/sport ... .html?_r=0 ________________________________________ If, two or three years years ago, Perez was willing to acknowldege his knee injury and accept his Minor League reassignment, the response would have been more sympathetic and he might still be a Met today. His contract was guaranteed. Instead, he brought on all of the wrath by insisting on remaining with the big club, despite a fast ball that was almost 10 MPH slower and a total loss of pitch control.

Edgy MD Jun 10 2013 07:31 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

With the success of Perez and Bay, I'm half surprised Luis Castillo's agent hasn't swung a deal with Seattle. Other sex-Mets toiling for the Sailormen include Kelly Shoppach (poorly) and Endy Chavez (pretty OK).

Ceetar Jun 10 2013 07:44 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

batmagadanleadoff wrote: If, two or three years years ago, Perez was willing to acknowldege his knee injury and accept his Minor League reassignment, the response would have been more sympathetic and he might still be a Met today. His contract was guaranteed. Instead, he brought on all of the wrath by insisting on remaining with the big club, despite a fast ball that was almost 10 MPH slower and a total loss of pitch control. Another possibility would've been to actually DL him, have him actually rehab the knee, and work on regaining the velocity. And when you DL him, don't just ignore him and then randomly bring him back to the roster and stick him in the bullpen and forget about him. That was the most mind-boggling thing, that they knew his velocity was down, knew his knee was still weak, and did nothing about it. Of course, this is the same manager/pitching coach that saw symptoms of injury and velocity drops in Maine and decided to start him anyway..for 5 pitches and then changed their mind.

Swan Swan H Jun 17 2013 02:37 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Per Rubin, Guys!, and a few other tweeters, Justin Turner heading to the DL with an ingrown beard hair. Or an intercostal muscle strain, whichever comes first. Atchison and Wheeler to be activated, since they can carry 26 for a DH, then who knows on Wednesday.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 17 2013 02:43 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

I hope Ike Davis isn't waiting by the phone.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 18 2013 01:25 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Turner on the DL, Scott Atchison activated.

Edgy MD Jun 18 2013 01:28 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Atchison. Somebody on Twitter said that it was cool to see Wheeler showing up with his Dad.

Rockin' Doc Jun 21 2013 10:11 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Edgy MD wrote: With the success of Perez and Bay, I'm half surprised Luis Castillo's agent hasn't swung a deal with Seattle. Other sex-Mets toiling for the Sailormen include Kelly Shoppach (poorly) and Endy Chavez (pretty OK). I miss Endy.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 22 2013 12:50 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Kevin Burkhardt wrote: Mets at Phillies. 4pm on PIX 11. Lucas Duda back to NY for tests on his oblique. 100% odds he heads to DL. Return of Ike? Geez, they're dropping like flies.

themetfairy Jul 04 2013 09:33 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

When Good Hot Dog Eating Contests Go Bad

Swan Swan H Jul 04 2013 10:34 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Andy McCullough ?@McCulloughSL 24m Francisco Cervelli had a "stress reaction" in his elbow, and was shut down, Girardi said. Girardi say he may not return until August. A tear welled up in the corner of his eye. "Doc," he said, "give it to me straight. I know it don't look good, and I know it's a long road and a lot of work, but when it's all done will I be able to pump my fist like a giant douchebag again?"

Ashie62 Jul 04 2013 11:03 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Keith looks old to me today. He looks better out of the sun...

Swan Swan H Jul 06 2013 06:34 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Ruben Tejada activated from the DL - and demoted to Las Vegas.

Swan Swan H Jul 07 2013 11:01 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

According to Rubin the Mets may skip Marcum's next turn. He's not hurt. I'm putting this here because I'm sick of looking at him.

Lefty Specialist Jul 07 2013 11:46 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 07 2013 11:54 AM

"My arm isn't sore, it's just a little stiff." -Steve Barber in Ball Four

Swan Swan H Jul 07 2013 11:49 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Lefty Specialist wrote: "My arm isn't sore, it's just a little stiff." Steve Barber in Ball Four I can see Marcum spending all his spare time in the diathermy machine.

Swan Swan H Jul 23 2013 01:33 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Jason Grilli leaves the Pirates to go back to Pittsburgh for exams on his owie forearm, per Bucs writer Rob Biertempfel. That's not a typo. Every time a ballplayer so much as gets a hangnail they're rushing him in for an MRI. I'm surprised they didn't do one on Harvey's blister. I can only imagine how people feel sitting and waiting at the radiology center, their kid taking a day off from work so they can bring them in to get an MRI on their brain tumor, and they continue to wait while some douchebag jock breezes in, cuts the line, and gets an MRI on their forearm tendinitis. 'Cause I'm sure Derek Jeter sits in the waiting room with the November 2004 Reader's Digest until it's his turn for the machine.

Swan Swan H Jul 23 2013 02:28 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Mike Kerwick ?@mikekerwick 6m Wheeler had a blister on his finger, per Collins, but it's better now. He'll still go Thursday. #mets First Harvey, now Wheeler? Apparently those cheap-ass Wilpons sell all the used game balls to schools, orphanages, VA hospitals and the like at a huge markup, and the team's pitchers warm up using prickly pears that are trucked up in bulk from the Texas farm of Jeff's cousin Heffernan, a.k.a. Heff Wilpon.

Centerfield Aug 01 2013 07:45 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Heard on the broadcast last night that Niese was a few starts away from coming back. What they didn't mention is whether the tear is healing. I know he didn't need the surgery. Does that mean it fixed itself?

Edgy MD Aug 01 2013 07:47 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Looking forward to the seven-man rotation. Any word on Wright's ham?

Centerfield Aug 01 2013 07:55 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Cramp. He says he's fine.

Edgy MD Aug 01 2013 07:58 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Hopefully, an objective third party can make that call.

Ceetar Aug 01 2013 09:22 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Centerfield wrote: Heard on the broadcast last night that Niese was a few starts away from coming back. What they didn't mention is whether the tear is healing. I know he didn't need the surgery. Does that mean it fixed itself? No. It means he can pitch through it as long as he keeps the inflammation down (Drugs!) [url]http://online.barrons.com/article/SB10001424127887324251504578580152200433738.html?mod=BOL_article_full_more From Jared Diamond (who I think must have originally published this on the WSJ so not sure why it's on barrons now) So barring an unforeseen setback, the most pressing question around Niese doesn't involve whether or not he has a torn shoulder—but whether or not he thinks he can pitch effectively despite it. That theory holds true in the Mets' clubhouse. Fellow starter Dillon Gee has pitched his entire major-league career with a torn labrum in his right shoulder. He knows it will never heal on its own. He takes anti-inflammatories throughout the season and maintains a rigorous exercise and training program to ensure his symptoms don't return. As long as it doesn't hurt, Gee can continue to pitch without fear of suffering more extensive damage.

metirish Aug 14 2013 05:00 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

RHP Jeremy Hefner is placed on the DL, retroactive to Aug. 10, with a partially torn MCL in his right elbow.

Ashie62 Aug 14 2013 06:51 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Well that explains alot..sorry Hef..

MFS62 Aug 19 2013 07:17 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Mejia has bone spurs. We'd known he had them and was delaying surgery until the off season. When he walked off the mound the other day, I feared it might have been worse than that. The official word is just that - bone spurs. That was my sigh of relief you just heard. Later

Centerfield Aug 20 2013 08:02 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

That's good to hear. Where did you hear that MFS? I checked google news and didn't see any word of him getting checked out.

MFS62 Aug 20 2013 08:36 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Centerfield wrote: That's good to hear. Where did you hear that MFS? I checked google news and didn't see any word of him getting checked out. I think it was Ed Coleman on one of the pre-game "Injury reports" on WFAN. Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 20 2013 11:56 AM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

It's here, and in a few places (if not couched as a result of a specific medical exam). He was pitching with the spurs to begin with, with an as-long-as-you-can-tolerate-it understanding and offseason surgery in the offing.

smg58 Aug 20 2013 05:28 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Pitching with the bone spurs gave Mejia the opportunity to put himself squarely back on the Mets radar. And if it's reached the point where it's no longer worth the risk to send him out there, then so be it. Get the surgery done, and get him to 100% by spring training. Hefner's status is less good; the docs recommended TJS. Calling it a shitty break for him and the team would be an understatement.

G-Fafif Sep 06 2013 02:13 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

He'll have Rice with that hernia. Scottso out for surgery rest of year, it is reported. Down to three Mets who have been on roster since OD, though I'm not sure if the durable lefty will be moved to DL given that it's September: Murphy, Gee, Hawkins.

themetfairy Sep 06 2013 02:15 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Damn - I just started a thread on the topic. I'll take it down. [youtube:2a7zdvmv]X8Ow1nlafOg[/youtube:2a7zdvmv]

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 06 2013 02:17 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

I guess that explains the Hennepin.

G-Fafif Sep 06 2013 02:18 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Henn, Feliciano, Byrdak. None may be as effective as Rice has been (in 2013) but we are certainly armed from the left side for the vital remaining two dozen games.

Edgy MD Sep 06 2013 02:37 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Byrdak clearly sabotaged the guy. I think about fringey guys like Rice a lot. Whether they get hurt while in the bigs or on the minors can make all the difference to them. Getting paid like a big leaguer while you're recovering must make rehabbing all the less terrifying. You rehab in the minors, not only are you getting paid in peanuts, but a team is more than happy to cut you free as soon as your recovery is arguably complete. You rush back under pressure and get doubly screwd for the effort.

Frayed Knot Sep 06 2013 02:42 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

You also continue to accrue ML service time when you're DL'd while on a ML roster - something that could pay off later on down the road.

Edgy MD Sep 06 2013 02:59 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Yup. This might end up being the second best thing that's ever happened to him.

G-Fafif Sep 06 2013 03:07 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Rice's emergence is the feelgood story of the year, at least until it's revealed it was juicing that gave him the little something extra on his fastball that he needed to break through.

Edgy MD Sep 09 2013 09:41 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

A close examination of Harvey's elbow has revealed that Parnell needs neck surgery. Wait, what? I blame Fman.

Ashie62 Sep 10 2013 01:54 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Is David Wright traveling with the team or suiting up for games and staying with troops?

Frayed Knot Sep 10 2013 02:00 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Ashie62 wrote: Is David Wright traveling with the team or suiting up for games and staying with troops? I think he's wither already back in NY now, or is about to be, on account of there aren't any more games in Florida and also fewer folks hanging around there now to work him out or pitch to him.

Edgy MD Dec 06 2013 02:06 PM Re: Touch Me I'm Sick - Injuries (and Recoveries) in 2013

Laggy in New York getting his precious precious knee examined.