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batmagadanleadoff
Feb 10 2013 10:19 PM



A Baseball City to Be Divided on Opening Day


By DAVID WALDSTEIN
Published: February 10, 2013

At its core, spring training is a seven-week dress rehearsal. The entire enterprise is aimed at opening day, and the rehearsal begins this week for the Mets and the Yankees.

For Mets and Yankees fans, this opening day will be like no other. Owing to a whopper of a scheduling quirk, the teams will open their seasons at home on the same day, at the same hour, for the first time, according to the Elias Sports Bureau.

At roughly 1:05 p.m. on April 1, barring poor weather, a Yankees and a Mets pitcher — probably C. C. Sabathia and Johan Santana — will unleash their respective first pitches of the season on mounds less than 10 miles apart.

For the Yankees, it will be another dazzling marquee event, made even more so because the opposition that day in the Bronx will be the Boston Red Sox as the teams’ rivalry reaches its 110th year.

Sure, the Red Sox have fallen on hard times. But they are still the Red Sox, with players like David Ortiz, Jacoby Ellsbury, Dustin Pedroia and Jon Lester — probably Boston’s starter that day.

Over in Queens, the Mets will host the San Diego Padres in what some will liken to a junior varsity event. The idea that the Mets, usually an afterthought in New York, will have to vie for attention with the Yankees isn’t one either team relishes, especially the Mets.

“Nobody is particularly happy about it,” said Katy Feeney, Major League Baseball’s senior vice president for scheduling and club relations. “But it’s unlikely to happen again anytime soon.”

Normally, the Yankees and the Mets do not play at home at the same time, on opening day or otherwise. There have been the occasional series when both have played in New York at the same time, including last season.

According to Feeney, the simultaneous home openers resulted from several factors. First, this is the first year with two leagues of 15 teams each and the first year there will be an interleague game nearly every day, causing some scheduling difficulties. That trend starts with the Los Angeles Angels visiting the Cincinnati Reds on April 1 for the first interleague opening day game.

The Mets-Yankees situation was also caused by a change in the date of the All-Star Game, which is normally the second Tuesday in July. This season it is scheduled for July 16, the third Tuesday of the month, and when every other factor was taken into account, the only way to make it all work was to have the Mets and the Yankees play at home on the same day, Feeney said.

The last time two New York teams opened their seasons at home on the same day was in 1956, when the New York Giants and the Brooklyn Dodgers did so. In those days, with three teams in the city, it was much more common. And so on April 17, 1956, the Dodgers lost to the Phillies, 8-6, at Ebbets Field and the Giants beat the Pirates, 4-3 at the Polo Grounds.

Feeney was not positive, but she said she thought she was at that game at the Polo Grounds because her father, Charles Feeney, known as Chub, was the Giants’ head of baseball operations, and most opening days were a free pass to leave school and head to Coogan’s Bluff.

So, what is a New Yorker to do?

Michael R. Bloomberg already has a plan for his final opening day as mayor. He will attend both games, according to his spokesman, Marc LaVorgna. No word on which game Bloomberg, who grew up outside Boston, plans to attend first. Maybe it will depend on whether either team asks him to throw out the first pitch.

For those who have experienced both opening days as a player, it is hard to say which would be better. Darryl Strawberry, one of the best position players to wear both uniforms, said that picking one would be too tough.

“I wouldn’t be able to choose,” he said. “I think that’s a day for a fan to stay home and watch on TV and switch back and forth.”

Sounds like a plan. Unless it snows.


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/11/sport ... .html?_r=0

Edgy MD
Feb 10 2013 10:29 PM
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Steinbrenner openly fumed when the Yankees opened against the Sox, feeling that he got ripped out of an extra payday by combining two sellout draws into one.

Fman99
Feb 11 2013 04:35 AM
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A Baseball City to Be Divided on Opening Day


By DAVID WALDSTEIN
Published: February 10, 2013

Over in Queens, the Mets will host the San Diego Padres in what some will liken to a junior varsity event.


Oh, fuck off already.

Ceetar
Feb 11 2013 06:19 AM
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A Baseball City to Be Divided on Opening Day


By DAVID WALDSTEIN
Published: February 10, 2013

Over in Queens, the Mets will host the San Diego Padres in what some will liken to a junior varsity event.


Oh, fuck off already.


I would've gone with "over in the Bronx, the Yankees will host the Boston Red Sox in what some will liken to an Old Timers Day event."

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 11 2013 06:29 AM
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"what some will liken" -- probably his editor. Weak!

metirish
Feb 11 2013 06:50 AM
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Santana will be ready?

Ceetar
Feb 11 2013 06:55 AM
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metirish wrote:
Santana will be ready?


No reason he wouldn't be. Well, barring something happening.

Frayed Knot
Feb 11 2013 06:59 AM
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This is a good idea actually, they should have dueling contests before the openers!!

I can hear the PA announcer now: In this corner, a switch-hitter from Spain ... Inigo Montoya
Then, to a chorus of boos, enters Prince "Six-Fingers" Humperdink

MFS62
Feb 11 2013 07:29 AM
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A Baseball City to Be Divided on Opening Day


By DAVID WALDSTEIN
Published: February 10, 2013

Over in Queens, the Mets will host the San Diego Padres in what some will liken to a junior varsity event.


Oh, fuck off already.

His dad was a big Mets fan. I worked with him. He was an editor for a Tax publication service. I never suspected that little David would grow up to write stuff like that.

Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Feb 11 2013 07:47 AM
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He was the Mets beat guy for a while not so long ago, so I'm guessing he's written a lot worse about the Mets pretty recently... most of it without an ounce of opinion in there.

G-Fafif
Feb 11 2013 10:01 AM
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LIRR projects as extra annoying that morning.

As for vying for attention, WTF? The Mets will have a big crowd (minus a few fuck-them-anyway politicians/celebrities, perhaps) and then their season will proceed per usual. At worst they miss a back page that they might not have gotten anyway if the MFYs were opening on the road at Fenway or on Mars.

In 1997, the two teams were scheduled to have their Home Openers coincide after each began on a nine-game road trip on the West Coast. But because the MFYs were raising their first championship flag in 18 years, the Mets, in grand Wilpon style, didn't want to compete with that, so they bumped their HO to the next day, a Saturday...and it got rained out. Mets opened their Shea schedule with a lightly attended doubleheader on Sunday, figuring the big deal would be the following Tuesday, the first (and most significant) Jackie Robinson Night. That they sold out.

metirish
Feb 11 2013 10:52 AM
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Worst thing about that article for me is this

According to Feeney, the simultaneous home openers resulted from several factors. First, this is the first year with two leagues of 15 teams each and the first year there will be an interleague game nearly every day, causing some scheduling difficulties. That trend starts with the Los Angeles Angels visiting the Cincinnati Reds on April 1 for the first interleague opening day game.



IL play on Opening Day....screw that.

Centerfield
Feb 11 2013 11:05 AM
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Normally, the Yankees and the Mets do not play at home at the same time, on opening day or otherwise. There have been the occasional series when both have played in New York at the same time, including last season.


Really? I had no idea the schedule of one had anything to do with the other.

Benjamin Grimm
Feb 11 2013 11:13 AM
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It goes beyond that. This is probably no longer the case, but I remember noticing in the 1980's that whenever the Mets played the Cubs at home, the Yankees would often be in Chicago playing the White Sox. And when the Mets would be at Wrigley the White Sox would be in the Bronx.

metirish
Feb 11 2013 11:19 AM
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A lot of the same people work both stadiums selling beer etc I think, at least used to anyway.

seawolf17
Feb 11 2013 11:24 AM
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metirish wrote:
A lot of the same people work both stadiums selling beer etc I think, at least used to anyway.

I always assumed it had something to do with that and/or transit.

batmagadanleadoff
Feb 11 2013 11:26 AM
Re: Dueling Openers



A Baseball City to Be Divided on Opening Day


By DAVID WALDSTEIN
Published: February 10, 2013

Over in Queens, the Mets will host the San Diego Padres in what some will liken to a junior varsity event.


Oh, fuck off already.


I have no problem with this quote from Waldstein, above.

I do have a problem with Strawberry, who seems to be hedging his loyalty to the Mets:

For those who have experienced both opening days as a player, it is hard to say which would be better. Darryl Strawberry, one of the best position players to wear both uniforms, said that picking one would be too tough.

“I wouldn’t be able to choose,” he said. “I think that’s a day for a fan to stay home and watch on TV and switch back and forth.”
Do fans remember Straw as primarily a Yankee?

metsmarathon
Feb 11 2013 11:35 AM
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metirish wrote:
Worst thing about that article for me is this

According to Feeney, the simultaneous home openers resulted from several factors. First, this is the first year with two leagues of 15 teams each and the first year there will be an interleague game nearly every day, causing some scheduling difficulties. That trend starts with the Los Angeles Angels visiting the Cincinnati Reds on April 1 for the first interleague opening day game.



IL play on Opening Day....screw that.


honestly, i like htis sulution so much more than the mid-season interleague smorgasbord frenzy.

Edgy MD
Feb 11 2013 05:19 PM
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Yeah, if you're going to have interleague play, best to have if all year. You have to with odd numbers of teams in each league.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 11 2013 05:30 PM
Re: Dueling Openers



A Baseball City to Be Divided on Opening Day


By DAVID WALDSTEIN
Published: February 10, 2013

Over in Queens, the Mets will host the San Diego Padres in what some will liken to a junior varsity event.


Oh, fuck off already.


I have no problem with this quote from Waldstein, above.

I do have a problem with Strawberry, who seems to be hedging his loyalty to the Mets:

For those who have experienced both opening days as a player, it is hard to say which would be better. Darryl Strawberry, one of the best position players to wear both uniforms, said that picking one would be too tough.

“I wouldn’t be able to choose,” he said. “I think that’s a day for a fan to stay home and watch on TV and switch back and forth.”
Do fans remember Straw as primarily a Yankee?


Strawberry and Gooden know it's good business to play one off the other. The guy whose MFY association really kills me is Mazzilli: Spent about 2 months in the Bronx as a bench player and was traded away at the earliest opporunity. Yet today he's routinely believed to be a Yankee-Met and I think if you asked Joe Young Fan, he'd probably guess he was a MFY for longer.

Ceetar
Feb 11 2013 08:09 PM
Re: Dueling Openers



A Baseball City to Be Divided on Opening Day


By DAVID WALDSTEIN
Published: February 10, 2013

Over in Queens, the Mets will host the San Diego Padres in what some will liken to a junior varsity event.


Oh, fuck off already.


I have no problem with this quote from Waldstein, above.

I do have a problem with Strawberry, who seems to be hedging his loyalty to the Mets:

For those who have experienced both opening days as a player, it is hard to say which would be better. Darryl Strawberry, one of the best position players to wear both uniforms, said that picking one would be too tough.

“I wouldn’t be able to choose,” he said. “I think that’s a day for a fan to stay home and watch on TV and switch back and forth.”
Do fans remember Straw as primarily a Yankee?


Strawberry and Gooden know it's good business to play one off the other. The guy whose MFY association really kills me is Mazzilli: Spent about 2 months in the Bronx as a bench player and was traded away at the earliest opporunity. Yet today he's routinely believed to be a Yankee-Met and I think if you asked Joe Young Fan, he'd probably guess he was a MFY for longer.



Yup. My 'first' memory of Mazzilli was arguing for an interference call against the Mets in a Subway Series game in 2000 and getting it. ('99?) Hated him ever since.

Strawberry was my favorite player when I was younger so I have memories of him. I don't really have any Mets memories of Gooden. I don't particularly think of him as a Yankee, but I don't have the same type of possession of him that most Mets fans do.

Gwreck
Feb 12 2013 12:07 AM
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seawolf17 wrote:
metirish wrote:
A lot of the same people work both stadiums selling beer etc I think, at least used to anyway.

I always assumed it had something to do with that and/or transit.


The police, too. Same rule applies in Chicago.