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Kong76
Jan 20 2013 07:47 PM

I can't stand Ray Lewis, but not a Brady fan either.
Go 'Niners!!

Kong76
Jan 20 2013 07:50 PM
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Did we really need to see his plumber's butt crack praying
with 200 camera men surrounding him?

Frayed Knot
Jan 20 2013 07:54 PM
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Yeah, not that I'm a NE/Belacheat fan, but my only rooting interest this weekend was for the Ray Lewis dick-sucking campaign to end.
Looks like that's going to last another coupla weeks.


Which reminds me; why is Walter O'Malley a horrid human being while Art Modell -- Mister Modell as everyone seems to call him -- such a great guy*? It's like the time spent and all actions made prior to Baltimore have been expunged from the archives.



* except in Cleveland of course

Mets – Willets Point
Jan 20 2013 08:15 PM
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Kong76
Jan 20 2013 08:19 PM
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We know you're above it all, Willet

Mets – Willets Point
Jan 20 2013 08:25 PM
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Kong76 wrote:
We know you're above it all, Willet


I just don't dig Beyonce. Not my thing.

Mets – Willets Point
Jan 20 2013 08:30 PM
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Now if they'd gotten Psy, that would have been fun.

Ashie62
Jan 20 2013 08:50 PM
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Get the trophy Ray Rice and team...Nice matchup..

metirish
Jan 20 2013 09:36 PM
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Ray Lewis is killer eh?

go Niners indeed, I fucking can't stand Lewis......can't stand how sports media is all over him like he's the greatest thing.

TransMonk
Jan 21 2013 07:09 AM
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Preview of the next two weeks:

Harbaugh, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, brothers, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, Stanford, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, Michigan, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, Schembechler, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, arrogant crybabies, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, not twins, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, Thanksgiving 2011, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, Harbaugh.

They're not my favorite set of siblings. Not all douchebags are Harbaughs, but I believe all Harbaughs are douchebags.

33 days until the first Mets ST game.

metsmarathon
Jan 21 2013 07:10 AM
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i can't stand ray lewis. i don't know if it's just clingering from that whole murder investigation thing, and i've never quite scrubbed his record clean, or if i just think he's an overwrought dick, but i'm hoping that the bigger focus of hte super bowl is the gosh golly gee wiz what are the chances how cool is it yawnfest that two brothers are coaching against each other.

themetfairy
Jan 21 2013 07:11 AM
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My rooting interest is in Ray Rice from Rutgers. Which is how we refer to him around here.

Ceetar
Jan 21 2013 07:12 AM
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They still play the Super Bowl? Thought that'd jumped the shark.

I'm going with Blue as the gatorade color poured over the winning coach. this year's the year.

#randombets

Edgy MD
Jan 21 2013 07:16 AM
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Baltimore Sun letter writer.

Shame on you, Baltimore Sun, for the article on "Shadow over Ray Lewis' life" (Jan. 11). At a time when many of us are celebrating a the conclusion of a glorious sports career with Ray's announced retirement, you choose to publish this article detailing events of 13 years ago. This unfortunate episode involving Mr. Lewis' personal life has been examined and re-examined ad-nauseum throughout his career. Why would you choose to bring it up again at this time?

Yes, this was a tragic event. However, we cannot do anything about the past, nor can Mr. Lewis. For the life of me, I cannot understand how this paper condoned this article especially when you have given Mr. Lewis accolades, praise, and wonderful coverage. This was, tacky, inappropriate and wrong.

Everyone has a past, and everyone has done things they wish they could take back. It seems there will always be those folks who will never let us forget it.

Jim McCray


What is wrong with people?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 21 2013 07:22 AM
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Hey, take it easy man. Who of us hasn't committed a murder and/or lied to protect one?

Gwreck
Jan 21 2013 07:48 AM
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Yeah, don't forget illegally disposing of evidence too.

MFS62
Jan 21 2013 08:10 AM
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Yes, but a greater crime is the title of this thread.
You can't use the full "SB" name unless you get permission from (and pay royalties to) the NFL.

Listen to all the substitutes, like "big game" we've been hearing on radio and tv stations that aren't carrying the game or in ads for products that aren't sponsors of the game.

Kase, the cops will be coming for you shortly. Still time to change it.

Later

Frayed Knot
Jan 21 2013 08:14 AM
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But, people, we get to see Ray Lewis dance again!!! Don't you understand that? ... HE'S GOING TO DANCE ... on the field even, and we get to see it!!
How could a right-thinking person possibly pass up that opportunity?

batmagadanleadoff
Jan 21 2013 08:55 AM
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themetfairy wrote:
My rooting interest is in Ray Rice from Rutgers. Which is how we refer to him around here.


This guy's from Rutgers, too.





Go Niners!*


*Niner fan almost as long as I am a Mets fan.

TransMonk
Jan 21 2013 09:07 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
...right-thinking person...

Fman99
Jan 21 2013 09:52 AM
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I'm way more bored with Brady/Bellichek than I am with Ray Lewis. Bring on the Big Game, I say.

Ashie62
Jan 21 2013 10:37 AM
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I would hesitate to get a pizza from a guy named Schnatter.

Ceetar
Jan 21 2013 11:21 AM
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Ashie62 wrote:
I would hesitate to get a pizza from a guy named Schnatter.


luckily, he doesn't serve pizza, only Papa Johns.

Edgy MD
Jan 21 2013 11:23 AM
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Ray Lewis was pretty much a finishing nail in any remote interest I could muster for the NFL.

Ashie62
Jan 21 2013 05:57 PM
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A 25 year old football fan may not even be aware of Ray Lewis' brushes with the law.

Many of the remainder simply enjoy the show he puts on..

Ceetar
Jan 21 2013 06:15 PM
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I don't remember his brushes with the law, but I don't have my head in the sand and hear people talking about it too.

Anyway, I'm most looking forward to getting a good laugh at Budweiser's new beer.

Edgy MD
Jan 21 2013 06:29 PM
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He didn't have a brush with the law. He ran the law over.

Frayed Knot
Jan 21 2013 07:17 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
A 25 year old football fan may not even be aware of Ray Lewis' brushes with the law.


Part of the point (leaving aside the concept of "brushes") is that they should.
I wasn't around during baseball's segregated age but I know all about it because neither those within the game or covering it try to pretend that era never existed.


Many of the remainder simply enjoy the show he puts on.


Hey, if someone wants to worship him for his war dances, helmet-spearing, on-camera crying, his never-ending claims of underdog status, and constant proclamations to God they're free to do so, but it would be nice if they knew the entire story first before choosing their idols.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jan 21 2013 09:36 PM
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I'm Team Niners... but with the realization that we are so very close to having a supremely Boston-Sports-Fan thing happening with the slightly-big-for-their-britches San Fran-base.

MFS62
Jan 22 2013 08:31 AM
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TransMonk wrote:
Preview of the next two weeks:

Harbaugh, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, brothers, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, Stanford, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, Michigan, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, Schembechler, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, arrogant crybabies, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, not twins, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, Thanksgiving 2011, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, Harbaugh.

They're not my favorite set of siblings. Not all douchebags are Harbaughs, but I believe all Harbaughs are douchebags.

33 days until the first Mets ST game.

I'd rather it would have been a coaching matchup of Ryan VS Ryan in the "Big Game".
Sigh.
Later

Kong76
Feb 03 2013 09:00 AM
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This pre-pre-pre-game show is very informative!

Ceetar
Feb 03 2013 09:12 AM
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Kong76 wrote:
This pre-pre-pre-game show is very informative!


wake me for the Puppy Bowl.

Frayed Knot
Feb 03 2013 09:16 AM
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The best thing about the pre-pre-pre-game show is that it gives you great insight as to what's coming up on the pre-pre-game show.

Kong76
Feb 03 2013 09:19 AM
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Yes, you've nailed it exactly!

themetfairy
Feb 03 2013 10:15 AM
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D-Dad is going to make a jambalaya later. I'll make a bread pudding for dessert.

What are the rest of you going to make/eat tonight?

MFS62
Feb 03 2013 10:18 AM
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Chili, wings, ribs and beer.
And probably Alka-Seltzer.

Later

Kong76
Feb 03 2013 10:46 AM
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Jambalaya is very fitting.
Going to same party for last 20 years. It's his one big thing and
has it catered so there's a little of everything. Big sandwich, yay!
Heineken, el Schlitz de Holland!

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 03 2013 11:05 AM
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Squid! Will clean, bread and fry.

Three kinds of wings (glazed Asian sesame; crispy fried with hot dip; oven-baked buffalo).

Ribs!

Peak organic variety-pak & Sierra ruthless rye.

"soft opening" of renovated kitchen.

Puppy Bowl starts at 3...

Ashie62
Feb 03 2013 03:39 PM
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Ravens 28 SF 17

Ceetar
Feb 03 2013 04:00 PM
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ordered pizza. making onion dip. probably take a nap too.

metsguyinmichigan
Feb 03 2013 06:19 PM
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Who is that up there lip-synching with Beyonce?

Gwreck
Feb 03 2013 06:33 PM
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Beyonce wasn't lip syncing. Her mic was live. Her backing band? That was prerecorded.

The other two singers were Kelly Rowland and Michelle Williams (the other members of Destiny's Child).

Frayed Knot
Feb 03 2013 06:38 PM
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There's no way that Ravens dude would have been able to run back that 2nd half kickoff without first being inspired by Ray Lewis.

smg58
Feb 03 2013 06:59 PM
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So, Brandon Lyon, worth it or not?

MFS62
Feb 03 2013 07:03 PM
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smg58 wrote:
So, Brandon Lyon, worth it or not?

Maybe. Depends on the cost.
Now , back to the thread - aren't we glad they're playing in a warm weather site? No problems.

Later

metirish
Feb 03 2013 07:17 PM
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"@Theismann7: Beyonce shit the house down""

@Theismann7: My bad meant shut down house"

cooby
Feb 03 2013 07:34 PM
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Holy heck. Getting closer

Ceetar
Feb 03 2013 07:50 PM
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PSA: Support your local breweries. Budweiser, and Budweiser owned Becks, are crap, even in pretty black bottles.

themetfairy
Feb 03 2013 09:39 PM
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My neighbor brought over this lovely cake -

metirish
Feb 04 2013 06:43 AM
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So, let's talk ads .....

The Dodge one was a wow..a little disappointing that it was for Dodge though.....it was such a buildup ......as I noted with DGW I was surprised to find out via Slate that it was basically the same ad done for Farms.com ......I had never heard the speech or in fact ever heard of Paul Harvey.

Here is the Farms.com one.......it is powerful, no matter your beliefs.

http://www.farms.com/FarmsPages/ChatDes ... tid=112671


Jeep tried a similar thing with it's salute to the military.....again, I liked it until I realized it was for Jeep....the product seems such a let down to the buildup again.

themetfairy
Feb 04 2013 06:55 AM
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The Dorito's ad was funny. And I'll confess to liking the Gangham-Style pistachios ad.

Ceetar
Feb 04 2013 06:58 AM
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metirish wrote:
So, let's talk ads .....

The Dodge one was a wow..a little disappointing that it was for Dodge though.....it was such a buildup ......as I noted with DGW I was surprised to find out via Slate that it was basically the same ad done for Farms.com ......I had never heard the speech or in fact ever heard of Paul Harvey.

Here is the Farms.com one.......it is powerful, no matter your beliefs.

http://www.farms.com/FarmsPages/ChatDes ... tid=112671


Jeep tried a similar thing with it's salute to the military.....again, I liked it until I realized it was for Jeep....the product seems such a let down to the buildup again.


eh, disliked both of those. Just glad it wasn't some lame politically charged ad at least.


Doritos was good. I enjoyed the Taco Bell old people one too.

My wife didn't like the Clydesdale ad, noting "Why would you give up the horse that you have such a strong bond with!" (Because clearly giving horses to Budweiser is more important than love)

metirish
Feb 04 2013 07:07 AM
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The Church of Scientology one was creepy, I have been noticing a lot of ads for them on TV lately.

Frayed Knot
Feb 04 2013 07:10 AM
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Ray Lewis wasn't the guy who killed the lights, he was just there when it happened.

themetfairy
Feb 04 2013 07:21 AM
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metirish
Feb 04 2013 07:30 AM
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This should be noted here


Update: Farms.com is working with the Chrysler Group to raise money for the Future Farmers of America.


http://www.ramtrucks.com/en/keepplowing/

metsmarathon
Feb 04 2013 07:32 AM
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i didn't like the chrysler ads, and liked htem less when, later in the game, the wounded warriors ad came on, and i thought, great, here comes another chrysler ad.

MFS62
Feb 04 2013 07:43 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Ray Lewis wasn't the guy who killed the lights, he was just there when it happened.

That makes us long for the days of the BOC.

Speaking of ads and the lights, Oreo cookies tweeted "You can dunk in the dark" right after it happened, and got over 10,000 responses.

Later

metsmarathon
Feb 04 2013 08:26 AM
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i think overall there were three commercials that i liked, or at least didn't hate.

the m&ms ads are almost always good, and this was really no exception. it wasn't mindblowing, or necessarily memorable, but it was good.

the ad towards the end, while i now have no recollection of what it was for, with the laundry, was amusing and not awful.

and the pistachios ad was the best of the night, even though i'm sure gangnam style must surely be fading... right?



audi is sure positioning itself as the car to drive if you fancy yourself an asshole, isn't it?

metirish
Feb 04 2013 08:36 AM
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Good point on Audi, it was a WTF is that moment.

I liked the Best Buy/ Amy Poehler ad, she at least seems relatable to me.

I really didn't like the one with the Israeli(I think) supermodel and the I guess ugly fat kid?......I'm sure that lifted the chanfidence of kids like that all over the country.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 04 2013 08:40 AM
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The pistachio gangam style was the only good one I saw. Didn't make kickoff as I was in the kitchen preparing all this shit:


I know, looking at pictures of other people's food is gross but the fried wings were the shizz if I may so myself. Basically rolled in cayenne and red pepper flakes, and served with a hot sour cream dipping sauce. Good deep spiciness that wasn't burny, just heat.

metirish
Feb 04 2013 08:47 AM
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Gross?, hardly....those wings looks fucking great....

Vic Sage
Feb 04 2013 08:55 AM
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In our house, "Ray Rice from Rutgers" is "Ray Rice from New Rochelle HS" and gets our support. Particularly when i don't care about the teams otherwise.

But we didn't have a party; it was just me, my wife and daughter (my son was playing on his computer in the other room; he loathes sports). So i made a Mediterranean fish stew and some mini-tacos.

After half-time, i went upstairs to watch tv with my son for a while, while i kept up with the score by hearing my wife's screams and swears from downstairs. So i didn't see many of the commercials. I did like the M&M ad because it used a Meatloaf song. I liked Amy Poehler, and the Audi ad. But when that hot model kissed the fat nerd, i threw up a little in my mouth. And the problem with the farm ad, and the Jeep/military ad, and the horse/beer ad is the manipulation. They are beautifully crafted little movies, constructed to tug on our hearstrings, and to feel profound, all for the purpose of selling us a product, or brand identity. And because the manipulation is so nakedly self-serving, it causes resentment. It's not that they're not "good commercials" (in the sense of well made, entertaining, etc), it's that we resent the very expertise employed to jerk us around.

Anyway, after taking off the 2nd and some of the 3rdQ, i watched til the end and was happy to see that arrogant, tatted-up savante fail to lead his team all the way back. Rice didn't do much, but his team won so there was happiness in New Roc and the Sage house.

Mets – Willets Point
Feb 04 2013 09:26 AM
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Didn't watch. Had an exhausting day and fell asleep putting the baby to bed. I'm intrigued by this power outage which seems like it should've been a piece of agitprop performance art to give people wealthy enough to buy tickets a "Katrina experience" but apparently was more mundane.

sharpie
Feb 04 2013 09:43 AM
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Watched it in a bar with a friend. Paid no attention to the commercials. Not a bad game but I'm sad about the result.

metirish
Feb 04 2013 09:54 AM
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I like this article from Deadspin about how absurdly awful the pre-game/ex jocks /suits are at doing this

http://deadspin.com/5981428/it-took-a-b ... asters-are

batmagadanleadoff
Feb 04 2013 10:04 AM
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metirish wrote:
I like this article from Deadspin about how absurdly awful the pre-game/ex jocks /suits are at doing this

http://deadspin.com/5981428/it-took-a-b ... asters-are


The article also seems to point out how awful the networks are at presenting the game itself. If that's another point, I agree totally. You simply have to watch five minutes of game-film analysis or end-zone POV to realize how dumbed down the live TV presentation of the sport is. But maybe that explains the over the top popularity and appeal of the NFL. Me, I'm still trying to figure out why the Niners were penalized on their first offensive play that canceled a 20 yard completion to Vernon Davis. The announcers merely stated the conclusion (illegal formation) without really explaining it. Given the rarity of that particular penalty/formation and the Super Bowl venue, I expected more.

metirish
Feb 04 2013 10:22 AM
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And Phil Simms is awful, just bloody useless......guy never shuts up and says nothing "the more angles I see the more confused I get"......he was especially awful on that non-call in the end zone....and he trotted out the line " awfully hard to call that with under two minutes to play", really?, if it's a penalty then call it.

themetfairy
Feb 04 2013 11:16 AM
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The pistachio ad -

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metsmarathon
Feb 04 2013 11:33 AM
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metirish wrote:
And Phil Simms is awful, just bloody useless......guy never shuts up and says nothing "the more angles I see the more confused I get"......he was especially awful on that non-call in the end zone....and he trotted out the line " awfully hard to call that with under two minutes to play", really?, if it's a penalty then call it.


it's always dumb to me how hte defense in that situation always gets the benefit of hte doubt, despite the contact being clearly in violation of the rules. crabtree, the niner receiver iirc, subsequently attempted to push free, it looked, but only in response to the grabbing and holding and tugging that he was getting from the defender.

batmagadanleadoff
Feb 04 2013 11:43 AM
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metirish wrote:
And Phil Simms is awful, just bloody useless......guy never shuts up and says nothing "the more angles I see the more confused I get"......he was especially awful on that non-call in the end zone....and he trotted out the line " awfully hard to call that with under two minutes to play", really?, if it's a penalty then call it.


Simms blows. They're particularly bad at explaining complex principles, usually describing them in equally complex phrases or slang/vernacular that only they themselves could possibly understand. Daryl Johnston might be the worst offender in this category.

metirish
Feb 04 2013 11:52 AM
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Cris Collinsworth is long winded too but I think one of his best attributes is explaining crap. Simms goes out oh his way not to offend anyone it looks like, especially the NFL.

Mets – Willets Point
Feb 04 2013 01:12 PM
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It seems lost on the internet but wasn't there once a cell phone commercial where people lit up a darkened Carolina Panthers' stadium with their cell phones? Or did I just dream that one up.

Vic Sage
Feb 04 2013 02:00 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
And Phil Simms is awful, just bloody useless......guy never shuts up and says nothing "the more angles I see the more confused I get"......he was especially awful on that non-call in the end zone....and he trotted out the line " awfully hard to call that with under two minutes to play", really?, if it's a penalty then call it.


Simms blows. They're particularly bad at explaining complex principles, usually describing them in equally complex phrases or slang/vernacular that only they themselves could possibly understand. Daryl Johnston might be the worst offender in this category.


Simms talking about whores in the Big Easy...
http://www.theonion.com/articles/phil-s ... ne:default

Frayed Knot
Feb 04 2013 02:59 PM
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Personally, I feel that anyone who willingly sits though 10 hours of pre-game shows deserves all the shitty announcing/jocks/suits he gets.

Ceetar
Feb 04 2013 03:11 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Personally, I feel that anyone who willingly sits though 10 hours of pre-game shows deserves all the shitty announcing/jocks/suits he gets.


the puppy bowl was just as insightful.

Ashie62
Feb 04 2013 05:23 PM
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No one has to watch all the pre-game stuff or halftime show.

Memorable game which interested me far more than that snooze of a World Series.

Congrats to Ray Rice and Ray Lewis

Frayed Knot
Feb 04 2013 05:53 PM
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So does the SB MVP have to do the whole Disneyland thing?
I suspect that either the league makes it a pre-condition of being named or the Disney folks simply offer too big a pile of cash for anyone to turn it down no matter how dorky they look saying the "I'm going to ..." line and then riding down the street w/Mickey in the parade.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Feb 04 2013 07:32 PM
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metirish wrote:
Cris Collinsworth is long winded too but I think one of his best attributes is explaining crap. Simms goes out oh his way not to offend anyone it looks like, especially the NFL.


Collinsworth and Mayock-- who works the NFL Network games (usually Thursday Nights)-- are the best at in-game breakdowns, far and away.

HahnSolo
Feb 04 2013 07:53 PM
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metsmarathon wrote:
metirish wrote:
And Phil Simms is awful, just bloody useless......guy never shuts up and says nothing "the more angles I see the more confused I get"......he was especially awful on that non-call in the end zone....and he trotted out the line " awfully hard to call that with under two minutes to play", really?, if it's a penalty then call it.


it's always dumb to me how hte defense in that situation always gets the benefit of hte doubt, despite the contact being clearly in violation of the rules. crabtree, the niner receiver iirc, subsequently attempted to push free, it looked, but only in response to the grabbing and holding and tugging that he was getting from the defender.


There is not a single DB in the NFL who would agree with the assertion that the defense always gets the benefit of the doubt. I don't have the numbers but I would love to see a comparison of the number of PI/illegal contact/defensive holding calls vs. offensive pass interference. My feeling on this particular play is I'm glad about the no-call. Yes, if you go by the strictly by the rule book the official would have every right to throw the flag. However if officials called the game strictly by the book they could throw a flag on every pass play (there is always contact beyond five yards). The play reminds me of the end of the Ohio State-Miami BCS championship game back in 02 or 03. It was a similar type play, except that the pass in the OSU game was more catchable than the play last night. The official threw a flag (late) giving OSU a new set of downs. They converted a TD and won in the next OT session. I thought that was a terrible call, and have long felt the wrong team won the game. I would have felt the same way last night had the Niners gotten that call and went in for 6.

batmagadanleadoff
Feb 04 2013 08:28 PM
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HahnSolo wrote:
I don't have the numbers but I would love to see a comparison of the number of PI/illegal contact/defensive holding calls vs. offensive pass interference. My feeling on this particular play is I'm glad about the no-call. Yes, if you go by the strictly by the rule book the official would have every right to throw the flag. However if officials called the game strictly by the book they could throw a flag on every pass play....


The refs should enforce the rules. The NFL should amend any rules that are bad or that are having unintended consequences. But the idea that a rule shouldn't be enforced because the underlying infraction that the rule is supposed to prevent or penalize occurs too frequently is absurd. Do we stop giving out tickets for passing red lights as soon as everybody breaks that rule?

An angry Niner fan

Ashie62
Feb 04 2013 09:07 PM
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Personally I was waiting for Dan Marino's lovechild to present the Lombardi trophy.

HahnSolo
Feb 05 2013 07:02 AM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:

An angry Niner fan


Ouch. Sorry.

Going back over that last series, I think the Niners got screwed more on the third down play. That was a blow to the head, and on replay helmet to helmet, on an arguably defenseless receiver (I forget who they targeted on that, I don't think it was Crabtree). Considering the climate of the league today, I was surprised no flag got tossed there. Hits like that have been automatic flags the last couple of seasons.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 05 2013 07:59 AM
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HahnSolo wrote:
The play reminds me of the end of the Ohio State-Miami BCS championship game back in 02 or 03. It was a similar type play, except that the pass in the OSU game was more catchable than the play last night.


Yes, my thought was that was an incredibly shitty pass that would have been difficult to catch inbounds even without the alleged "interference."

Jim Harbaugh looked like the biggest baby in the world crying over that call, and then of course his brother passive-aggressively humiliated him with the run-out-the-clock safety play.

HahnSolo
Feb 05 2013 09:13 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:

Jim Harbaugh looked like the biggest baby in the world crying over that call, and then of course his brother passive-aggressively humiliated him with the run-out-the-clock safety play.


That play cost my buddy $7K in a box pool.
[though it was clearly the correct play, strategy-wise]

Edgy MD
Feb 05 2013 10:52 AM
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Co-workers combing back from parade:

[list:3pu1ab6s][*:3pu1ab6s]Players driven in military-grade Hummers. How lame.[/*:m:3pu1ab6s]
[*:3pu1ab6s]Others transported in street cars. "Here come the SPECIAL TEAMS players! Heeeee'res the TAXI SQUAD! And the TAXI SQUAD WIVES!! YEAH!![/*:m:3pu1ab6s]
[*:3pu1ab6s]Interlopers jumped the barriers to march in the parade. Got pepper-sprayed. In Baltimore, that sort of thing is a big part of the entertainment.[/*:m:3pu1ab6s][*:3pu1ab6s]In one of the more meta-occurrences, players spent half the parade photographing and videographing the parade route with their iPads, obscuring their faces. That's who we're threatening to become. People too busy recording our interactions to have any.[/*:m:3pu1ab6s][/list:u:3pu1ab6s]

metsmarathon
Feb 06 2013 05:00 PM
Re: Super Bowl 2013

HahnSolo wrote:
metsmarathon wrote:
metirish wrote:
And Phil Simms is awful, just bloody useless......guy never shuts up and says nothing "the more angles I see the more confused I get"......he was especially awful on that non-call in the end zone....and he trotted out the line " awfully hard to call that with under two minutes to play", really?, if it's a penalty then call it.


it's always dumb to me how hte defense in that situation always gets the benefit of hte doubt, despite the contact being clearly in violation of the rules. crabtree, the niner receiver iirc, subsequently attempted to push free, it looked, but only in response to the grabbing and holding and tugging that he was getting from the defender.


There is not a single DB in the NFL who would agree with the assertion that the defense always gets the benefit of the doubt. I don't have the numbers but I would love to see a comparison of the number of PI/illegal contact/defensive holding calls vs. offensive pass interference. My feeling on this particular play is I'm glad about the no-call. Yes, if you go by the strictly by the rule book the official would have every right to throw the flag. However if officials called the game strictly by the book they could throw a flag on every pass play (there is always contact beyond five yards). The play reminds me of the end of the Ohio State-Miami BCS championship game back in 02 or 03. It was a similar type play, except that the pass in the OSU game was more catchable than the play last night. The official threw a flag (late) giving OSU a new set of downs. They converted a TD and won in the next OT session. I thought that was a terrible call, and have long felt the wrong team won the game. I would have felt the same way last night had the Niners gotten that call and went in for 6.


my issue is not with the nature of pass interference calls, but with the notion that you can't make that call with two minutes to go. if you can make teh call in the first minute, you should make the call in the last minute. otherwise the player committing the infraction gets the clear advantage.

how absurd would it be if in baseball, you heard "it's the bottom of the ninth - you can't call that pitch a ball"? or "... that twitch a balk" or "... that catch a trap"

yet it is routinely accepted in other sports that the rules change as the clock winds down. nonsense, i say. nonsense!