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IGT, 3/8, Mets at Tiggs

Edgy MD Mar 08 2013 01:11 PM

D'Arnaud has d'parted after getting plunked'.

G-Fafif Mar 08 2013 01:21 PM Re: IGT, 3/8, Mets at Tiggs

Vald'Espin having a good game, it seems.

seawolf17 Mar 08 2013 01:27 PM Re: IGT, 3/8, Mets at Tiggs

I've always thought we should have more Mets with d-apostrophes in their name.

metirish Mar 08 2013 01:28 PM Re: IGT, 3/8, Mets at Tiggs

G-Fafif wrote: Vald'Espin having a good game, it seems. looks like he's the man right now.

G-Fafif Mar 08 2013 01:38 PM Re: IGT, 3/8, Mets at Tiggs

Anthony di'Como carries forth party line that v'Aldy's a bad boy who's no good for us, but has talent. Last August, after he wore a T-shirt to the clubhouse in clear violation of the team's self-imposed dress code, his teammates stole the shirt from his locker, cut tassels into it and wrote on it as a way of teaching him a lesson. An enraged Valdespin began screaming at his teammates when he discovered the altered shirt, complaining later that he felt disrespected. In those ways and others, he demands attention. If Valdespin notices a photographer shooting pictures during batting practice, he often turns toward the camera and poses. When he hits home runs, he grows animated as he jogs the bases. It all runs counter to baseball's unspoken expectation that young players should be seen but not heard, and is part of the reason why Valdespin initially struggled to reach the big leagues. His history of Minor League disciplinary issues is well known around camp. In his early days, Valdespin fostered the impression that he cared more about himself than the team. It is a perception he is still working to change.

Ceetar Mar 08 2013 01:46 PM Re: IGT, 3/8, Mets at Tiggs

I know he's had issues, but why does every article that mentions his disciplinary issues never mention a specific issue? This isn't one of those things that reporters reference their own reports enough that they believe it to be true is it?

Edgy MD Mar 08 2013 02:17 PM Re: IGT, 3/8, Mets at Tiggs

Specifics of minor league disciplinary actions generally don't get disclosed unless someone is willing to dig or press the point. Minor league beat reporters generally are on a just-get-me-the-game-facts-by-the-deadline mission, and the big-league guys who read the report of a the action coming over the wires have bigger fish to fry unless they recognize a name-brand prospect, which Valdespin never was. He had a two-week suspension from his Dominican winter ball club in December for insubordination. Particulars beyond that were undisclosed. Back in 2009, he started the season in Savannah, then was demoted to Gulf Coast and Brooklyn. He received a suspension that year also from Tony Bernazard.

Ceetar Mar 08 2013 02:40 PM Re: IGT, 3/8, Mets at Tiggs

Edgy MD wrote: Specifics of minor league disciplinary actions generally don't get disclosed unless someone is willing to dig or press the point. My point is maybe if you're going to reference these things fairly regularly over multiple seasons, maybe you should dig a little. Maybe not while you're also lobbying for a position in the organization, but otherwise..

Edgy MD Mar 08 2013 02:47 PM Re: IGT, 3/8, Mets at Tiggs

There's nothing non-factual in d'Como's report. If you'd like to know the specifics of his infractions, I'd suggest you write d'C and ask, but it is an historical fact that he's been disciplined on more than one occasion. I hadn't known he was lobbying for a job in the organization.

Edgy MD Mar 08 2013 02:54 PM Re: IGT, 3/8, Mets at Tiggs

Thing is, if you read that article, DiComo is trying to build a case that Vds is moving beyond his past foolishness, getting money quotes from Wally Backman about how he's matured, and giving Jordany all the chance in the world to say the bland right things about doing what he's asked and working hard and anything to help the team and blahblahblah. So he's hardly being lazy, but the case against Jordany isn't his angle, so much as the case for him.

Ceetar Mar 08 2013 02:59 PM Re: IGT, 3/8, Mets at Tiggs

Edgy MD wrote: There's nothing non-factual in d'Como's report. If you'd like to know the specifics of his infractions, I'd suggest you write d'C and ask, but it is an historical fact that he's been disciplined on more than one occasion. I hadn't known he was lobbying for a job in the organization. not him, thinking of another notable beat guy that went digging into disciplinary actions. I didn't say there were non-facts, just that it was lacking specifics. I like facts. But I like to know details when It's being suggested those facts should color my perception of a player.(Or that they did, or should have?) I never held him any vague disciplinary citations against him, so I'm struggling to understand why I should suddenly move past them now. It's just that it seems like it's simple beat writer arrogance that they get to tell me how I feel about a player and who are the good and bad guys in the clubhouse. Although I guess these assertions are more factually based than the ones that suggest Lucas Duda lacks the confidence to succeed so I should be happy it's got any.

Edgy MD Mar 08 2013 06:23 PM Re: IGT, 3/8, Mets at Tiggs

You're struggling to understand why you should move past feelings that you've never held. That's a challenge for a writer.

Edgy MD Mar 08 2013 06:34 PM Re: IGT, 3/8, Mets at Tiggs

Doing some digging, the suspension this winter was for not running a ball out. Dean Treanor was manager and he himself was replaced before the season was done. The 2009 suspension, I haven't got beyond "not following team rules." His manager was Edgar Alfonzo. The tee-shirt incident and subsequent tantrum, I think, we know all there is to know.

Fman99 Mar 08 2013 06:54 PM Re: IGT, 3/8, Mets at Tiggs

He sound quite Milledgian.