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2013 IPP: Daniel Murphy

Benjamin Grimm
Mar 07 2013 12:34 PM

Daniel Murphy! I'd love to see him be a long-time Met, somehow, but I don't know that his glove will ever be good enough for the infield and his bat (and his glove) may never be good enough for the outfield. I think he'll improve a bit at second base this year, hit .280 with 6 homers and get most of the starts at 2B. But by next year he'll start hearing Wilmer Flores' footsteps. A decent bet to be traded midseason for an American League outfielder.

batmagadanleadoff
Mar 07 2013 12:42 PM
Re: 2013 IPP: Daniel Murphy

This is the year that Murph finally does it. Murphy backpedals far enough for a fly ball hit over his head that he crashes entirely through the right field wall, sustaining fatal head injuries. A lavish Bump Bailey type funeral is promised by effWilpon, complete with flying overhead jets and a bagpipe choir -- a funeral that effWilpon has no intention of paying for, instead contriving some scandal involving Johan Santana's DL stint as cause to weasel out of the funeral.

bmfc1
Mar 07 2013 12:53 PM
Re: 2013 IPP: Daniel Murphy

One of ESPN's fantasy baseball writers thinks that Murphy is a "sleeper":
Daniel Murphy, 2B, Mets: He's a .292 career hitter just entering his prime at age 27, and he can be had in a fantasy draft on the cheap, especially following a recent injury setback (intercostal strain) that could scare off cautious owners. Murphy knows how to hit at Citi Field -- he's a career .308 hitter, with a .351 OBP, at his home field -- and he also batted .283 versus lefties last year, showing he can (and should) play every day. The Mets' lineup isn't exactly great, but there is upside with players such as Ike Davis and Lucas Duda, and Murphy should have no trouble scoring 80-plus runs if he rightfully bats second in the lineup. -- Brian Gramling

Ceetar
Mar 07 2013 01:06 PM
Re: 2013 IPP: Daniel Murphy

bmfc1 wrote:
One of ESPN's fantasy baseball writers thinks that Murphy is a "sleeper":
Daniel Murphy, 2B, Mets: He's a .292 career hitter just entering his prime at age 27, and he can be had in a fantasy draft on the cheap, especially following a recent injury setback (intercostal strain) that could scare off cautious owners. Murphy knows how to hit at Citi Field -- he's a career .308 hitter, with a .351 OBP, at his home field -- and he also batted .283 versus lefties last year, showing he can (and should) play every day. The Mets' lineup isn't exactly great, but there is upside with players such as Ike Davis and Lucas Duda, and Murphy should have no trouble scoring 80-plus runs if he rightfully bats second in the lineup. -- Brian Gramling


Murphy's not a bad pickup in that regard, not top flight surely but if you're in the right league he'll get you points. 2B isn't exactly full of depth.

TransMonk
Mar 07 2013 01:07 PM
Re: 2013 IPP: Daniel Murphy

Every year there are doubts about him and every spring he is here.

I don't expect him to change too much from what he's been.

vtmet
Mar 07 2013 02:10 PM
Re: 2013 IPP: Daniel Murphy

the funny part about fans not being enamored with Murphy, is that if Luis Castillo had put up Murphy's offensive numbers, Mets fans wouldn't have hated him so much...

Is Murphy ever going to be a superstar? no...

but if he plays 2B defense like he did in the 2nd half last season, his offense is pretty decent for a 2nd baseman...

How many lefties do the Mets have that can't hit LHP?
Murphy hit .299 vs LHP in 2011; and .283 vs LHP in 2012;
and on his career, he's had 33 Extra basehits vs LHP (8 HRs and 25 doubles) in 378 at bats (.275 average);
Not great, but for a Mets lefty vs a LHP, it's pretty decent;

How many Mets have struggled in Citi Field vs the Road?
Murphy has a career line at Citi: .310 average; .454 slugging percentage; .802 OPS;
Yes he's had more road HRs, but he's had more doubles and triples at home;

Murphy's had better post All-Star Break numbers than pre all star break (despite the Mets typically collapsing after the break)...

Murphy's numbers with Men on Base and RISP are actually better than with the bases empty...

According to his career splits, he's hit very well as a #2 hitter (Which is where I think that he belongs with Tejada hitting either 7th or 8th):
.299 average; .352 OBP; .428 Slg %; .779 OPS;
41 doubles; 4 triples; 7 HRs; in 140 games;

And as a 2nd baseman, his numbers aren't bad (however, his numbers couldn't justify corner OF/IF):
.284 average; .326 OBP; .393 Slg %; .719 OPS;
45 doubles; 2 triples; 6 HRs in 162 games;

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/831 ... pe=Batting

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/831 ... pe=Batting

vtmet
Mar 07 2013 02:13 PM
Re: 2013 IPP: Daniel Murphy

I'm going with .285 average; 12 HRs and 35 doubles/triples combined...

smg58
Mar 07 2013 02:46 PM
Re: 2013 IPP: Daniel Murphy

I wouldn't expect much different than his .292/.339/.427 career line. Maybe 8 or 9 homers, but that's not what he does. Overall improved defense at second, if not quite average. Not super, but pretty good.

TheOldMole
Mar 07 2013 02:54 PM
Re: 2013 IPP: Daniel Murphy

Murphy hits .300 and plays a respectable second base.

Ashie62
Mar 07 2013 04:03 PM
Re: 2013 IPP: Daniel Murphy

Traded mid season...Flores to 2b

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Mar 08 2013 11:28 AM
Re: 2013 IPP: Daniel Murphy

Feeling optimistic:

290 PAs, .307/.355/.448, 40 R, 5 HR, 32 RBI, 27 XBH, traded in July.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 08 2013 11:43 AM
Re: 2013 IPP: Daniel Murphy

Not that he ever was, but he can't afford to look like a worse option to Jordany Valdespin anymore. That means, I think, he should hit more homers. Will he? I dunno. I wish he would.

Edgy MD
Mar 08 2013 11:51 AM
Re: 2013 IPP: Daniel Murphy

Or be superior at some level: a .333 batting average or a .410 OBP.

Chad Ochoseis
Mar 08 2013 11:51 AM
Re: 2013 IPP: Daniel Murphy

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
This is the year that Murph finally does it. Murphy backpedals far enough for a fly ball hit over his head that he crashes entirely through the right field wall, sustaining fatal head injuries.


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.305/.345/.450. Lots of line drive singles dumped over the shortstop's head. Plenty of doubles, too. Adequate defense at 2B. Is still a Met on October 1.

metirish
Mar 08 2013 11:54 AM
Re: 2013 IPP: Daniel Murphy

What happened on the road to being a line drive in the gaps table cleaning hitter?

Not to be trusted for more home runs...

MFS62
Mar 13 2013 08:40 AM
Re: 2013 IPP: Daniel Murphy

From Rotoworld:
[code] Daniel Murphy (intercostal strain) will take batting practice, run the bases, and field grounders and turn double plays on Wednesday. [/code]


I wonder, If the Mets hadn't moved their ST facility from St. Pete to PSL, would he just have had a coastal strain?

Later

batmagadanleadoff
May 28 2013 10:22 AM
Re: 2013 IPP: Daniel Murphy

A Daniel Murphy Appraisal
28 May 2013 by Howard Megdal




It’s probably worth taking a look at what the Mets have in Daniel Murphy.

Daniel Murphy, Jordanny ValdespinThrough a third of the season, Murphy now has an OPS+ of 121. That’s good for sixth among the 19 second basemen who are currently qualified for the batting title. And with the plan to let Murphy hit enough above average at the position that his below average defense makes him an average performer at second, that’s plenty of offense.

But Murphy has, per Ultimate Zone Rating, defied this plan so far by defending at an above-average rate. He’s lifted his UZR/150 from -13.3 last season to 5.2 this season, a massive improvement. With defensive stats especially, it is important not to jump to conclusions so quickly from small samples. His offense is in line with his career rates, roughly. But the Mets need to see more of this new defense before assuming it is his true talent level.

Still, the idea that Murphy could be a solid defender at second isn’t so crazy. He’s a fine third baseman. He’s now been at second for more than a full year, allowing reps and knowledge of the position combine with what was already strong range. All I’m saying is, this isn’t out of left field, whereas Murphy playing a competent left field would be.

A working assumption of mine, and I’m guessing, the Mets, was that Murphy’s defense meant he’d be, at best, an average 2B, and dealing him this winter for some help elsewhere while promoting Wilmer Flores to play the position next year wouldn’t mean losing much. And really, the lack of viable options to help the Mets win in 2014, even with Murphy, still might make that their best bet.

But as it stands, per wins above replacement, Daniel Murphy is the eighth-best second baseman in baseball, and one hot week out of cracking the top five.

The Mets may have a worse first baseman and shortstop than they thought. But they also may have a better second baseman than they had any right to expect.


http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2013/05/28/a ... appraisal/

Edgy MD
May 28 2013 10:26 AM
Re: 2013 IPP: Daniel Murphy

Currently: .313 / .397 / .473 // .871.

Can't not want to sign up for that. From your secondbaseman, firstbaseman... anybody.

Benjamin Grimm
May 28 2013 10:30 AM
Re: 2013 IPP: Daniel Murphy

The good news for the Mets this season: Harvey, Parnell, and Murphy.

Frayed Knot
May 28 2013 10:32 AM
Re: 2013 IPP: Daniel Murphy

Edgy MD wrote:
Currently: .313 / .397 / .473 // .871.


Murph? He's at .293/.335/.455 // .790 (which is also right in line with his career numbers of .293/.339/.430 // 769)

Still not bad, but not quite whoever you're quoting above.
The small number of walks perplexes me. Yeah he's an aggressive hitter, but not one given to constantly going out of the strike-zone.
I guess what happens he that he doesn't swing and miss that often so that, when he goes after the ball, it generally gets put into play,