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Ashie62 Mar 26 2013 05:24 PM

The team win totals get released tomorrow so LVI says..for now anyway player props are out.. the over/under on HR's by David Wright is 20 1/2 Wins by Dickey 14 1/2 Update tomorrow...

The Second Spitter Mar 26 2013 07:00 PM Re: Vegas Props

Ashie62 wrote: Wins by Dickey 14 1/2. I'd stake the family ranch on under.

bmfc1 Mar 26 2013 07:06 PM Re: Vegas Props

I'd take the over. He won 20 games for a bad team and now he pitches for a very good team.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 26 2013 07:12 PM Re: Vegas Props

PLUS plus, he's likely to get a few extra 7ths and 8ths and 9ths out on the mound, without the pitcher's-spot mid-game PHing dilemma. Barring weird-ass injury, he should be able to pitch significantly worse than last season, and still come out of it with 15-16 wins.

Ashie62 Mar 26 2013 08:49 PM Re: Vegas Props

I would think all David would have to do is stay healthy and he would make that number by accident..

Edgy MD Mar 26 2013 09:11 PM Re: Vegas Props

Staking the family ranch on a 38-year-old pitcher seems like a bad bet on any day. I'll take the Ike Davis bet.

Ceetar Mar 26 2013 09:16 PM Re: Vegas Props

[url]https://sports.bovada.lv/sports-betting/mlb-baseball-team-props.jsp This is the site I use anyway. Mets 74.5 Marlins 63.5 Jays 88.5 Astros 59.5 ouch. 40:1 for Ike to win the HR title. 25:1 for Wright and MVP 33:1 for Santana and the Cy Young 50:1 for Niese

Ashie62 Mar 26 2013 10:48 PM Re: Vegas Props

Bovada is live...did not see an MFY Total... Arizona Diamondbacks - 81½ Atlanta Braves - 87 1/2 Baltimore Orioles -78 1/2 Boston Red Sox - 82 1/2 Chicago Cubs - 73 1/2 Chicago White Sox - 81 1/2 Cincinnati Reds - 91 1/2 Cleveland Indians -78 1/2 Colorado Rockies - 71 1/2 Detroit Tigers - 92 1/2 Houston Astros -59 1/2 Kansas City Royals - 78 1/2 Los Angeles Angels - 91 1/2 Miami Marlins - 63 1/2 Milwaukee Brewers -80 1/2 Minnesota Twins - 68 1/2 New York Mets - 74 1/2 Oakland Athletics - 84 1/2 Philadelphia Phillies - 84 1/2 Pittsburgh Pirates - 77 1/2 San Diego Padres - 74 1/2 San Francisco Giants -87 1/2 Seattle Mariners - 77 1/2 St. Louis Cardinals -86 1/2 Tampa Bay Rays - 87 1/2 Texas Rangers - 86 1/2 Toronto Blue Jays - 88 1/2 Washington Nationals - 92 1/2

The Second Spitter Mar 27 2013 12:49 AM Re: Vegas Props

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: PLUS plus, he's likely to get a few extra 7ths and 8ths and 9ths out on the mound, without the pitcher's-spot mid-game PHing dilemma. He'll also be pitching to fewer pitchers and pitching around fewer 8 hitters. MINUS minus: astroturf.

metsguyinmichigan Mar 27 2013 04:53 AM Re: Vegas Props

The Second Spitter wrote: PLUS plus, he's likely to get a few extra 7ths and 8ths and 9ths out on the mound, without the pitcher's-spot mid-game PHing dilemma. He'll also be pitching to fewer pitchers and pitching around fewer 8 hitters. MINUS minus: astroturf. Does he gain anything by pitching half his games in a domed environment?

Ceetar Mar 27 2013 05:16 AM Re: Vegas Props

no Dodgers on that list either. I think they're confused.

Edgy MD Mar 27 2013 07:25 AM Re: Vegas Props

I imagine that dome will be more typically open.

The Second Spitter Mar 27 2013 07:32 AM Re: Vegas Props

metsguyinmichigan wrote: PLUS plus, he's likely to get a few extra 7ths and 8ths and 9ths out on the mound, without the pitcher's-spot mid-game PHing dilemma. He'll also be pitching to fewer pitchers and pitching around fewer 8 hitters. MINUS minus: astroturf. Does he gain anything by pitching half his games in a domed environment? Dome also counteracts the Magnus Effect because it shuts out the humidity. But the lack of grass & soil is the biggie. Grass & soil attract a lot of moisture. Moisture does strange things to the flight of a baseball and knucklers rely on it. Compare the Grass/Artificial splits of your favorite knucklers; They all invariably have worse S/BB splits on astroturf. E.g. Niekro's was negligible: 1.86/1.80, Wakefield's horrible: 1.89/1.43. The reason stems from the fact that when their knuckleball stops moving they are forced to start nibbling the corners of the plate. Also that pitch Dickey throws that starts off outside the strikezone and creeps-in will be a BB over astroturf more often.

TransMonk Mar 27 2013 07:38 AM Re: Vegas Props

I try to typically err on the side of losing, but I'm taking the over at 74 1/2.