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Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2013 11:21 AM

Harvey v Holliday.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2013 11:29 AM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Did you say "Harvey"?

Benjamin Grimm Apr 08 2013 11:30 AM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Harvey Holiday is a legendary Philadelphia disk jockey.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2013 12:09 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

If the season ended right now, the Mets and Nats would play a tiebreaker for the right to play the second place team in the West for the Wild Card.

Ashie62 Apr 08 2013 12:37 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Harvey v Holliday. Is it Harvey & Halladay? ...

duan Apr 08 2013 12:42 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

I'm cautiously pessimistic about tonight. I sorta feel like Halladay will pick us to get back to himself and that Harvey was spoilt by facing the meek Padres and while the Phillie lineup isn't murders row, it's a lot stronger then either of the two we've faced.

Frayed Knot Apr 08 2013 01:12 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

It's an ESPN game for those of you who don't normally get to view such things.

G-Fafif Apr 08 2013 01:32 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Nieuwehnhuis CF Murphy 2B Wright 3B Davis 1B Byrd RF Duda LF Buck C Tejada SS Awesome P

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 08 2013 04:03 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Peep his PitchFX numbers: Halladay's got something of the same issue as Johan faced-- diminished velocity, leading to too-small a velocity difference between FB and change. The control is just as good as ever, but he's significantly more hittable... at least until he learns how to permanently adjust.

duan Apr 08 2013 04:22 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

I did hear Buster Olney and Curt Schilling talk about it (think it was that combo, on Baseball Tonight Podcast anyway) and how Roy Halladay was going to have to adjust to not being able to beat hitters in the zone anymore and that's an adjustment one can make but that if, for 6 years or whatever, you've been able to beat them in the zone it takes a while to figure that you can't go in there anymore and get away with it. On the same podcast they were pointing out how the k's didn't necessarily mean anything more then that the braves hitters were trying to hit the yoke out of the park because it was feeling very hittable to them and braves hitters are going to strike out if they're going for it. On the other hand, I will not accept that he's anything other then a dominant beast until long after tonight.

Ceetar Apr 08 2013 04:36 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

duan wrote: I did hear Buster Olney and Curt Schilling talk about it (think it was that combo, on Baseball Tonight Podcast anyway) and how Roy Halladay was going to have to adjust to not being able to beat hitters in the zone anymore and that's an adjustment one can make but that if, for 6 years or whatever, you've been able to beat them in the zone it takes a while to figure that you can't go in there anymore and get away with it. On the same podcast they were pointing out how the k's didn't necessarily mean anything more then that the braves hitters were trying to hit the yoke out of the park because it was feeling very hittable to them and braves hitters are going to strike out if they're going for it. On the other hand, I will not accept that he's anything other then a dominant beast until long after tonight. Well, he didn't have a good year last year.

Zvon Apr 08 2013 04:49 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Peep his PitchFX numbers: Halladay's got something of the same issue as Johan faced-- diminished velocity, leading to too-small a velocity difference between FB and change. The control is just as good as ever, but he's significantly more hittable... at least until he learns how to permanently adjust. He'll adjust. He just has to find that proper differential between whats left of his heat and his off speed stuff. He'll find it. Probably tonight >< DOH!

A Boy Named Seo Apr 08 2013 05:20 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Love these road blue uni's.

Zvon Apr 08 2013 05:25 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Harvey gets out of a lil jam. Great pitching to Utley. Last pitch to Howard hits 98 on the gun. Yea to the blue unis, but wear the orange brim with these. Who makes these calls?

The Second Spitter Apr 08 2013 05:30 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Harvey gets out of a lil jam. Great pitching to Utley. Last pitch to Howard hits 98 on the gun. Yea to the blue unis, but wear the orange brim with these. Who makes these calls? viewtopic.php?f=1&t=17469

The Second Spitter Apr 08 2013 05:31 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

[bigpurple:37o6dvx3]BOMBA!!!!![/bigpurple:37o6dvx3]

Zvon Apr 08 2013 05:32 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Nymr83 Apr 08 2013 05:33 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

John Buck doesn't want you to worry about when some kid's arbitration clock starts.

TransMonk Apr 08 2013 05:39 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

[youtube:37fdzx79]zj6Vg5Mirg4[/youtube:37fdzx79] [bigpurple:37fdzx79]BUCK![/bigpurple:37fdzx79]

The Second Spitter Apr 08 2013 05:46 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Haha!

The Second Spitter Apr 08 2013 05:59 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Ginger Face is unravelling. I love it.

Gwreck Apr 08 2013 06:02 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

We need more discussion about David telling (silently) that Phillies fan in the front row to fuck off.

Ceetar Apr 08 2013 06:05 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

TransMonk Apr 08 2013 06:05 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Sandberg's a Phillie coach? Wow.

The Second Spitter Apr 08 2013 06:08 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Ceetar wrote: Your cat looks like he/she wants to do Muffy.

Frayed Knot Apr 08 2013 06:09 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

We're getting a lot of bang from our Buck so far.

The Second Spitter Apr 08 2013 06:10 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Frayed Knot wrote: We're getting a lot of bang from our Buck so far. And Toronto got Dicked.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2013 06:35 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Muffy hitting like Wright. Wright hitting like Muffy. Halladay is gonna get yanked here.

Zvon Apr 08 2013 06:36 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Re: Halladay. Not tonight. Ha!

TransMonk Apr 08 2013 06:37 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

I had heard Halladay had lost some of his mojo...but I didn't expect that kind of game from him.

metirish Apr 08 2013 06:48 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

7 to 1 Mets, Tejada with a great at bat.

Zvon Apr 08 2013 06:48 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Wow. What an at bat by Tejeda. Can we consider that breaking the game open?

Ceetar Apr 08 2013 06:52 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Zvon wrote: Wow. What an at bat by Tejeda. Can we consider that breaking the game open? need one more. PHillies had a team 7.1 ERA before this game.

Frayed Knot Apr 08 2013 06:53 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Zvon wrote: Wow. What an at bat by Tejeda. Can we consider that breaking the game open? I'll put it this way, if he didn't come through there after Byrd & Buck couldn't get it done, I would have spent much of the next four innings fretting that this lost opportunity was going to come back to bite us.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2013 06:56 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2013 06:57 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2013 06:58 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Zvon Apr 08 2013 06:59 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

I'd like to see Harveys stuff from the batters box cuz many of these Phils are swinging at everything.

Frayed Knot Apr 08 2013 07:03 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Geez Terry, if Nieuwenhuis can't stay in to face a LHP in a game like tonight's when is he?

The Second Spitter Apr 08 2013 07:07 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

I was preparing a Tejada whinging rant, so crow is on the menu for lunch.

The Second Spitter Apr 08 2013 07:09 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

batmagadanleadoff wrote: who dat?

Zvon Apr 08 2013 07:12 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Strange night in the field for Ike.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2013 07:15 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2013 07:15 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

The Second Spitter wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: who dat? Harvey.

Fman99 Apr 08 2013 07:16 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Matt Harvey is a men among boys. These sumbitches have no chance up there.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2013 07:22 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

The Second Spitter wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: who dat?

batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2013 07:27 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Zvon Apr 08 2013 07:34 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Many of your images are not displaying for me Wags. I just see image.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2013 07:35 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Zvon wrote: Many of your images are not displaying for me Wags. I just see image. Might be a browser issue. I can see them.

themetfairy Apr 08 2013 07:36 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

I'm using Chrome and I can't see them.

Zvon Apr 08 2013 07:36 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

I figure they are kool Ks.

Zvon Apr 08 2013 07:37 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Zvon wrote: Many of your images are not displaying for me Wags. I just see image. Might be a browser issue. I can see them. Maybe. Firefox here.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2013 07:37 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

themetfairy wrote: I'm using Chrome and I can't see them. Which ones aren't showing? The Harvey Korman K Corner Repeats? Or the images in the post to Spitter?

themetfairy Apr 08 2013 07:37 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Not showing up in IE either.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2013 07:38 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Zvon wrote: Zvon wrote: Many of your images are not displaying for me Wags. I just see image. Might be a browser issue. I can see them. Maybe. Firefox here. That's odd. I'm using Firefox. I don't have an answer to this.

themetfairy Apr 08 2013 07:39 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

batmagadanleadoff wrote: themetfairy wrote: I'm using Chrome and I can't see them. Which ones aren't showing? The Harvey Korman K Corner Repeats? Or the images in the post to Spitter? I'm not seeing Harvey. Which is a shame, because that's a great concept!

themetfairy Apr 08 2013 07:39 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

batmagadanleadoff wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: Many of your images are not displaying for me Wags. I just see image. Might be a browser issue. I can see them. Maybe. Firefox here. That's odd. I'm using Firefox. I don't have an answer to this. Are you using a Mac? I'm on a PC.

Zvon Apr 08 2013 07:40 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

batmagadanleadoff wrote: themetfairy wrote: I'm using Chrome and I can't see them. Which ones aren't showing? The Harvey Korman K Corner Repeats? Or the images in the post to Spitter? The repeats, I think. All images show in the post to Splitter except one (2nd one).

batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2013 07:40 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

themetfairy wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: Many of your images are not displaying for me Wags. I just see image. Might be a browser issue. I can see them. Maybe. Firefox here. That's odd. I'm using Firefox. I don't have an answer to this. Are you using a Mac? I'm on a PC. PC

Zvon Apr 08 2013 07:42 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

What file type are you using for that image? .jpg? .png? .bmp?

batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2013 07:42 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Can you see the Harvey image in the second post, page one, of this thread?

batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2013 07:43 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Zvon wrote: What file type are you using for that image? .jpg? .png? .bmp? .jpg

Zvon Apr 08 2013 07:45 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

JPGs should work no matter how you post it. Sorry to take up posts with this but I'd appreciate em. If its something on my side I'll figure it out. It may well be (usually is).

batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2013 07:45 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Spitter must've been able to see the images. Else he wouldn'ta asked "who dat?".

themetfairy Apr 08 2013 07:47 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Can you see the Harvey image in the second post, page one, of this thread? No

Zvon Apr 08 2013 07:47 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Can you see the Harvey image in the second post, page one, of this thread? No sir. I see the word Image. Dont worry about it. I'll look over my options eventually. Muffy swingin dat bat!

Fman99 Apr 08 2013 07:47 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Muffy killing it out there.

themetfairy Apr 08 2013 07:48 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Are you posting a URL that ends in .jpg ?

batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2013 07:49 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

If you image google "Harvey Korman", I'm repeating the 2d image for every Matt Harvey K. Here's the link: https://www.google.com/search?q=harvey+ ... 4AOTn4HICQ

Zvon Apr 08 2013 07:50 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

A lil surprised the word Image wasn't at least made a link to the image. Can I see the link to the image(if its hosted). OE: ty

Fman99 Apr 08 2013 07:51 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Ike, meanwhile, looks like poo.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2013 07:52 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Zvon wrote: A lil surprised the word Image wasn't at least made a link to the image. Can I see the link to the image(if its hosted). OE: ty I'm not linking from the image on the google image page. I'm clicking the image, going to the original host page, and then copying that image location.

Zvon Apr 08 2013 07:53 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

If that's it I see it when I post it. Wacky stuff. Good choice,lol.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2013 07:55 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Zvon wrote: If that's it I see it when I post it. Wacky stuff. Good choice,lol. That's it! Now post it 9x in a row, (no spaces or paragraphs) for TMF.

Zvon Apr 08 2013 07:58 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

batmagadanleadoff wrote: A lil surprised the word Image wasn't at least made a link to the image. Can I see the link to the image(if its hosted). OE: ty I'm not linking from the image on the google image page. I'm clicking the image, going to the original host page, and then copying that image location. That def should work. You're doing it correctly. I don't even go to the host site anymore. Just grab the loc thru the image on google. Sometimes that does not work though. If it shows here on preview I figure we all can see it.

Zvon Apr 08 2013 08:00 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2013 08:00 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Zvon wrote: Zvon wrote: A lil surprised the word Image wasn't at least made a link to the image. Can I see the link to the image(if its hosted). OE: ty I'm not linking from the image on the google image page. I'm clicking the image, going to the original host page, and then copying that image location. That def should work. You're doing it correctly. I don't even go to the host site anymore. Just grab the loc thru the image on google. Sometimes that does not work though. If it shows here on preview I figure we all can see it. So how 'bout that John Buck?

batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2013 08:01 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Zvon wrote: I can't see the Harveys. All I see is the word image nine times.

Zvon Apr 08 2013 08:03 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

batmagadanleadoff wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: A lil surprised the word Image wasn't at least made a link to the image. Can I see the link to the image(if its hosted). OE: ty I'm not linking from the image on the google image page. I'm clicking the image, going to the original host page, and then copying that image location. That def should work. You're doing it correctly. I don't even go to the host site anymore. Just grab the loc thru the image on google. Sometimes that does not work though. If it shows here on preview I figure we all can see it. So how 'bout that John Buck? Serially.. Oh, its the 9th. This looks good for us *yawn.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2013 08:04 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

books

Zvon Apr 08 2013 08:04 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

batmagadanleadoff wrote: I can't see the Harveys. All I see is the word image nine times. Really? Its a conspiracy, I tells ya.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2013 08:05 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

This win, coupled with the Nats day off, puts the Mets in the post-season. If the season ended tonight.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2013 08:05 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Zvon wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: I can't see the Harveys. All I see is the word image nine times. Really? Its a conspiracy, I tells ya. Just kidding.

Frayed Knot Apr 08 2013 08:07 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Folks, we got ourselves one seriously good pitcher on our hands here.

metsguyinmichigan Apr 08 2013 08:08 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

I'm enjoying this team so far. Scrappy. Some power. Some great pitching. The bullpen scares me. But Niese and Harvey sure do like the real deal.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 08 2013 08:08 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Zvon wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: I can't see the Harveys. All I see is the word image nine times. Really? Its a conspiracy, I tells ya. Since your images are visible to all, looks like you've inherited the role of keeper of the cyber Harvey K corner. The K is for Korman. Keep up the good work.

themetfairy Apr 08 2013 08:09 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Zvon wrote: If that's it I see it when I post it. Wacky stuff. Good choice,lol. That's it! Now post it 9x in a row, (no spaces or paragraphs) for TMF. I saw the image on the Google page, but not when Zvon posted it here.

The Second Spitter Apr 08 2013 08:12 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Imdb kills hotlinks sometimes. IT Mystery Case SOLVED. Lets talk about baseball. metsguyinmichigan wrote: I'm enjoying this team so far. Scrappy. Some power. Some great pitching. The bullpen scares me. But Niese and Harvey sure do like the real deal. Sure me too but a bullpen is easiest to fix. If they are genuinely contending then it's a problem that can be rectified with small investment.

Frayed Knot Apr 08 2013 08:36 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

St Looie's bullpen sure had a tough night tonight Tied 4-4 at home in the 9th: Boggs pitching: - Choo walks - Heisey pops out - Votto intentionally walked - Phillips doubles (1st run) - Bruce intentially walked - Fraizer walked (2nd run) - Hannahan infield single (3rd run) - Hanigan on via E-6 (4th run) Rzepcinski in for Boggs - Izturis single (5th run) - Choo hits 3-run double (8 runs in) - Heisey grounds out (2 down - both Heisey) - Votto RBI single (9 runs) - Phillips walks - Bruce infield single (loads bases) - Fraizer Ks

Zvon Apr 08 2013 08:53 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

batmagadanleadoff wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: I can't see the Harveys. All I see is the word image nine times. Really? Its a conspiracy, I tells ya. Since your images are visible to all, looks like you've inherited the role of keeper of the cyber Harvey K corner. The K is for Korman. Keep up the good work. No way. If anything we should all do it. I wish we all posted kabooms like it used to be when I came here. Just cause I make these crazy ones that don't mean all should stop doing that. That was the fun, the community of it.

Zvon Apr 08 2013 08:54 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Frayed Knot wrote: Folks, we got ourselves one seriously good pitcher on our hands here. We just might. We just might. So many things have to go right and so far I have seen nothing go wrong.

Zvon Apr 08 2013 08:56 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

The Second Spitter wrote: Imdb kills hotlinks sometimes. IT Mystery Case SOLVED. Lets talk about baseball. metsguyinmichigan wrote: I'm enjoying this team so far. Scrappy. Some power. Some great pitching. The bullpen scares me. But Niese and Harvey sure do like the real deal. Sure me too but a bullpen is easiest to fix. If they are genuinely contending then it's a problem that can be rectified with small investment. I think the bullpen will surprise us. You won't get me to go as far as to say how.

Centerfield Apr 09 2013 08:31 AM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Frayed Knot wrote: Folks, we got ourselves one seriously good pitcher on our hands here. Holy crap guys. What if he really is this good?

themetfairy Apr 09 2013 08:32 AM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Centerfield wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Folks, we got ourselves one seriously good pitcher on our hands here. Holy crap guys. What if he really is this good? We'll have a collective heart attack from the shock of it. But seriously, this kid reminds me of Seaver in the way that he comports himself. Very businesslike and professional.

Edgy MD Apr 09 2013 08:36 AM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

The key to assembling an effective bullpen is to go to it as sparingly as possible. Getting the last two innings out of one guy instead of four last night is a big step in that direction. Other thing going wrong is that this team striking out too much.

TransMonk Apr 09 2013 08:40 AM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Centerfield wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Folks, we got ourselves one seriously good pitcher on our hands here. Holy crap guys. What if he really is this good? I'm sold on Harvey...he looks great. Last night, I just kept thinking "Wheeler could be this good, too!" Oh, to dream.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 09 2013 08:47 AM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

themetfairy wrote: Centerfield wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Folks, we got ourselves one seriously good pitcher on our hands here. Holy crap guys. What if he really is this good? We'll have a collective heart attack from the shock of it. But seriously, this kid reminds me of Seaver in the way that he comports himself. Very businesslike and professional. Very jocky and douchey too. He's the kind of guy all the other teams are going to start hating and fearing very soon.

Edgy MD Apr 09 2013 08:48 AM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

It's the aggressiveness I like. The absence of waste pitches almost seems like a different brand of baseball. Yeah, Wheeler chills. And Snyderbuzz. Dark horse is Rafael Montero. Who knows what's gonna come from that guy? It's almost like Alderson wrote the rules to hide him on the shelf until the Mets could sign him. But in the meantime, it's probably best to be thankful for the Harveymeat and not look ahead to dessert too much.

Edgy MD Apr 09 2013 09:02 AM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Very jocky and douchey too. He's the kind of guy all the other teams are going to start hating and fearing very soon. Wright is the captain now. Perhaps he'll lend young Matthew some pants sweetener.

Ceetar Apr 09 2013 09:14 AM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Edgy MD wrote: The key to assembling an effective bullpen is to go to it as sparingly as possible. Getting the last two innings out of one guy instead of four last night is a big step in that direction. Other thing going wrong is that this team striking out too much. I don't think I care about the striking out (though Kirk and Ike need to actually hit the ball more). I love what Duda's been doing at the plate. But love that they went two innings with Edgin, and love that he did well with it. Saving the other 6 guys an appearance is worth the 'overusing Edgin' complaints.

themetfairy Apr 09 2013 09:19 AM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

I don't care if he's jocky. I don't care if he's douchy. He doesn't need to be warm and cuddly. If he delivers on the field as professionally as he has done so far, he can be as full of himself off the field as he wants.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 09 2013 09:20 AM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Edgy MD wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Very jocky and douchey too. He's the kind of guy all the other teams are going to start hating and fearing very soon. Wright is the captain now. Perhaps he'll lend young Matthew some pants sweetener. Harvey's not gonna buy that be-a-good-citizen shit. As LWFS said The Smug runs strong with this one.

Edgy MD Apr 09 2013 09:29 AM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

I imagine you're right, anymore than Gary Carter could make Dykstra not a cock. But seeing it play out will be an interesting side drama. I could see him getting hauled into Terry's office getting gentle talking-to's over outrageous infractions that the Mets are forced to downplay and pretend are smoothed over when they're not.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 09 2013 09:49 AM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Honestly, the physical stuff is great... but the makeup's where Harvey shines. There's some Smug, to be sure. There's also just a pinch of Pugnacity (see: chin music to Howard and Utley to back them away from the plate, just before giving them fastballs to ground into the dirt), and a hell of a lot of Drive to back up the Smug-- he knows he's good, because he IS good, because he works like hell at it (and does so in a focused way, not just ITBSHOHL iron-pumping or tire-hammering). He may have bumps-- leadoff walks, e.g.-- but he seems to have the ability to correct them almost immediately. It's a rare bird that has both the drive to get angry over minor mistakes AND the control to correct said mistakes without overcorrecting or losing it. If Wheeler doesn't have that, he's just a guy. If he has that AND his stuff, he's going to be disgustingly good, too, and your friends who root for other teams will silently envy/resent you for the next decade or so.

Centerfield Apr 09 2013 10:48 AM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Definitely comes across jocky. Don't see the douchy yet. In any case, if he ends up as good as Seaver (or anything close) let's agree he can be as douchy as he wants. We'll just know ahead of time not to put him in the booth. I am starting to discover how meatheady I am. I am so much more pumped for Harvey blowing hitters away than I was for RA delicately dominating last year.

Frayed Knot Apr 09 2013 10:54 AM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Centerfield wrote: Definitely comes across jocky. Don't see the douchy yet. Well, he did grow up in Connecticut as a Yanqui fan.

TransMonk Apr 09 2013 11:15 AM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

I can handle the smug-douche vibe as long as he delivers.

Edgy MD Apr 09 2013 11:19 AM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Douchey as he wants? Sorry, I got to keep limits on my douche tolerance. Stupid haircuts? Locker room farts? Rockin' out to Survivor? OK. Date rapes? Rocker-like thinly veiled but public racism? Christina Aguilera? Not OK! Smug-douche? OK. Douche-douche? Not OK!

Edgy MD Apr 09 2013 11:22 AM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Douchewhistles? OK. Douchetubas? Not OK!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 09 2013 11:27 AM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Douchenozzles? Si. Douchepressurizedhoses? NO!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 09 2013 11:49 AM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

For me it's mostly that he's in his 20s and drives an Escalade. Also, that Mike Francessa absolutely loves him.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 09 2013 11:51 AM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Also, that Mike Francessa absolutely loves him. Yeah, that can't be good.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 09 2013 11:55 AM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

To be fair, it's not like Francesa loves him because of their decades-long business-and-romantic partnership, or shared, soul-baring Catalina picnic weekends. And doesn't he like-like SugarPants, too?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 09 2013 12:13 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Francessa *likes* Wright but thinks he *discovered* Harvey. He's totally going to spoil our return to greatness by making it all about how Matt Harvey came along, stepped out of his Cadillac, and stopped being such a Met with Mike's encouragement.

Centerfield Apr 09 2013 12:17 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Frayed Knot wrote: Centerfield wrote: Definitely comes across jocky. Don't see the douchy yet. Well, he did grow up in Connecticut as a Yanqui fan. Ok. Douchy.

themetfairy Apr 09 2013 12:21 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

So long as he's our douche, so long as he comports himself professionally, and so long as he doesn't do or say anything outrageous or racist or otherwise objectionable, I for one plan on enjoying watching this kid pitch for us. The rest of you can dissect him or pick him apart as you please.

dinosaur jesus Apr 09 2013 12:23 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

I love that there's a question whether he's too douchey to root for. Do Phillies fans have discussions like this?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 09 2013 12:23 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

What if he pays fully for a redecoration of an LI battered-women's shelter... in poached ivory?

metirish Apr 09 2013 12:23 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

And God forbid but he is also a Pats fan, much to the chagrin of numbnut Mets fan who think he should be a Jets fans because he now plays for the Mets. Twitter can be hilarious and such was the case when Harvey got called up last year and of course garnered more attention...he tweeted his love for the Pats during one of the of games.....this of course set some Mets fan alight and moved Harvey to defend his love of the Pats....

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 09 2013 12:25 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

What if he endows a stop-human-trafficking organization... with money from his catfighting operation?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 09 2013 12:28 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

I'm just having fun with the whole Harvey-is-a-Douche thing. I am thrilled that he's been so great and want nothing more than to see it continue. I mean, he IS a douche, but shirley not too douchy to root for.

metirish Apr 09 2013 12:41 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Yeah , I think this stemed from Matt's twitter feed https://twitter.com/MattHarvey33 specifically the pic of the Escalade

Ceetar Apr 09 2013 12:49 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

btw, Apparently Adam Rubin has been just randomly tweeting lists of players who played for "Mets and OPPONENT" lately. I can't imagine he's doing anything but reading directly from the Ultimate Mets Database.

Edgy MD Apr 09 2013 12:54 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Or here.

Gwreck Apr 10 2013 07:59 PM Re: Monday Night Baseball IGT: New York (N) @ Phila.

Keith Law offers an evaluation that is very encouraging to my eyes: Harvey has room to improve Matt Harvey faced off against a desiccated facsimile of Roy Halladay -- the less said about him, the better -- on Monday night and put up an outstanding stat line, showing great stuff but struggling a lot with location, control and even consistency on his curve and slider. The good stuff first: That's ace stuff, a fastball mostly 93-97, a filthy slider at 87-91, a hard curveball at 78-83 and a riding change at 85-88. He punched out Ryan Howard by going up and in with heat three times in four pitches; Howard eventually caved and chased a pitch he couldn't sniff. Laynce Nix, not really a major league hitter anyway, couldn't touch Harvey's fastball and swung through three of them in his last at-bat, the final one perfectly placed up out of his reach but close enough to induce him to flail at it. Harvey threw some sliders that were unhittable, right off the outside corner to right-handed hitters, victimizing Michael Young more than once that way. The slider he threw to strike out Young in the fourth, 90 mph on the TV gun, broke down over the outside corner of the plate and made Young look feeble. He could have used the changeup more, preferring to go in with the curveball to left-handed hitters, even though his changeup is an above-average (or better) pitch. Philly's lineup just isn't very good anymore, which helped Harvey get away with a lot of pitches where he either didn't locate or didn't finish a breaking ball (mostly the curve). The sac fly Howard hit in the fourth came off a bad changeup that a decent left-handed hitter would have destroyed. Harvey hung several sliders and curveballs, including ones that Humberto Quintero and Young failed to capitalize on, with the curve the bigger problem on Monday. Harvey also missed up in or above the zone way too often for my tastes. He did blow it by a number of hitters, which is great when the location is planned, but when you miss, it's much better to miss down in the zone than it is to miss up. Quintero also got a fastball up in the first pitch of his second at-bat that might as well have been on a tee, a mistake Harvey will pay for if he does it against better hitters. He didn't get a ton of help from his defense. Ike Davis was an adventure at first base all night, and Kirk Nieuwenhuis struggled picking up some balls in center. It also seemed like John Buck struggled to catch Harvey's better velocity, jerking some borderline pitches away from the zone. Overall, I'm still as bullish on Harvey as I was when I scouted his major league debut in July, but there is a gap between that ace potential and what he showed Monday night in both command and in consistency on the two breaking balls.