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Benjamin Grimm
Apr 03 2013 01:18 PM

Rusty Staub has been getting a lot of hits over the past few weeks, and checking the server logs I see that a lot of it is a result of people entering the Google search phrase "is rusty staub gay"?

I know that this is an old "meme" (if I'm using the word correctly) but has something happened recently to call attention to this?

metirish
Apr 03 2013 01:21 PM
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His birthday was April 1st , can't think of anything else ....Gary mentioned on air that it was Rusty's birthday.....didn't mention the old nugget that he may be gay.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 03 2013 01:26 PM
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Didn't he throw out the first pitch?

I think that RS is secretly gay is well known by now, yes?

Edgy MD
Apr 03 2013 01:31 PM
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Either its well known that he's secretly gay, or it's a secret that he's well known to be gay. I'm not sure which. Maybe the latter.

Steve Zabriskie, when chatting here, lightly said that he long believed Rusty was in love with his wife. Do with that what you want.

Guy comes out of the woodwork every now and then, a lot of trouble-making uncles are going to be burping the old saw at their coming-of-baseball-age nieces and nephews.

[list]>> "Uncle Pete. Who's Rusty Stopp?"

>> "Le Grande Orange? Great ballplayer. Huge homo. (slap!) What?! What did I say?!"[/list:u]

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 23 2013 11:33 AM
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UMDB Facebook page wrote:
Matt Harvey's quick 4-0 record this season had us wondering about other Mets pitchers who won each of their first four starts of a season. It turns out that Harvey is the eighth Mets pitcher to accomplish this. The full list:

Jerry Koosman, 1968. 34.2 innings, 27 strikeouts, 1.04 ERA.
Tom Seaver, 1972. 30.2 innings, 33 strikeouts, 1.47 ERA.
Jerry Koosman, 1973. 34 innings, 14 strikeouts, 1.06 ERA.
Dwight Gooden, 1988. 26 innings, 22 strikeouts, 2.77 ERA.
Frank Viola, 1990. 27.1 innings, 29 strikeouts, 1.32 ERA.
Armando Reynoso, 1998. 28 innings, 12 strikeouts, 1.93 ERA.
Pedro Martinez, 2006. 26.2 innings, 28 strikeouts, 3.04 ERA.
Matt Harvey, 2013. 29 innings, 32 strikeouts, 0.93 ERA.

Gooden, Viola, Reynoso, and Martinez were the only four of the above to extend the streak to five games. Gooden's streak ended at six games. Frank Viola is the only Mets pitcher to get a win in each of his first seven starts in a season. At the conclusion of the game of May 5, 1990 he was 7-0 with a 0.87 ERA and 52 strikeouts in 51.2 innings. He ended the season 20-12 with a 2.67 ERA.

Frayed Knot
Apr 23 2013 11:41 AM
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Of those, only Koosman's 1968 season was around the same age as Harvey and with the same approximate ML experience.
All others had some sort of established rep at the time of their hot starts.

Koos: 25 + 4 months at opening day. 9 games pitched/3 starts (22.1 IP) the previous season

Harvey: 24 + 2 weeks at opening day. 10 games/10 starts (59.1 IP) the previous season


And Koos had the advantage of coming out during the most pitching-friendly era since the dead ball days.

seawolf17
Apr 23 2013 11:42 AM
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"Yo soy el futuro, Matt Harvey!"

Swan Swan H
Apr 23 2013 11:45 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
And Koos had the advantage of coming out during the most pitching-friendly era since the dead ball days.


Unlike Rusty Staub, who never really has.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 05 2013 01:47 PM
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Older UMDB "retrocards" from 1971 and 1975 that have recently had the player signature added:













Edgy MD
Jun 05 2013 01:49 PM
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A lot of saturated ink went into 1975.

Zvon
Jun 05 2013 03:12 PM
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Got it, Got it, Got it, Got it, Got it, Orlando Hernandez! kool! Pelfry! Aw, got it.

This is like opening a pack :)

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 05 2013 04:34 PM
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Of the 127 cards, two are not ready to go public yet. (They're active Mets players who may yet win a Schaefer POTM award, so I'm holding them back.)

The 1970 Brian Stokes is mine, as is the 1971 Johan front and back.

Maybe I'll post a checklist in this thread in the next day or so.

Zvon
Jun 05 2013 05:00 PM
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Oh, I see. Those above have the autographs added. So that means I have rare unsigned copies of some of your cards.

I'll trade you a '71 unautographed Piazza for one of your unreleased cards.

;)

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 06 2013 07:38 AM
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Here's the checklist:

1967
Wright, David (Mets Hit Kings, with Ed Kranepool)

1970
Davis, Ike
Dickey, R. A.
Harvey, Matt
Lo Duca, Paul (2006 N.L. Division Series Game 1)
Pelfrey, Mike
Santana, Johan
Stokes, Brian
Wright, David
Young, Chris

1971
Beato, Pedro
Beltran, Carlos
Buck, John
Delgado, Carlos
Dickey, R. A.
Dickey, R. A. (2012 N.L. Strikeout Leaders)
Francoeur, Jeff
Hairston, Scott
Jones, Chipper
Murphy, Daniel
Piazza, Mike
Santana, Johan
Santana, Johan (reverse)
Wagner, Billy
Wright, David

1972
Alfonzo, Edgardo
Alou, Moises
Beltran, Carlos
Castillo, Luis
Cedeño, Ronny
Chavez, Endy (in action)
Collins, Terry
Dickey, R. A.
Horwitz, Jay
Martinez, Pedro
Parnell, Bobby
Parnell, Bobby (in action)
Perez, Oliver (in action)
Rauch, Jon
Reyes, José
Reyes, José (2011 N.L. Batting Leaders)
Rice, Scott
Rodriguez, Francisco
Rodriguez, Francisco (in action)
Santana, Johan
Santana, Johan (traded)
Staub, Rusty
Valentine, Bobby
Wright, David
Wright, David (in action)

1973
Acosta, Manny
Beltran, Carlos
Benitez, Armando
Benson, Kris (special Anna Benson "wife" card)
Capuano, Chris
Dessens, Elmer
Feliciano, Pedro
Glavine, Tom
Hernandez, Livan
Jarvis, Jane
Matsui, Kaz
Parnell, Bobby
Pelfrey, Mike
Schoeneweis, Scott
Takahashi, Hisanori
Takahashi, Ken
Valdespin, Jordany
Wright, David

1974
Beato, Pedro
Church, Ryan
Dickey, R. A.
Francisco, Frank
Green, Sean
Heilman, Aaron
Leiter, Al
Nieuwenhuis, Kirk
Reyes, José
Sanchez, Duaner
Santana, Johan
Turner, Justin
Valdespin, Jordany
Zambrano, Victor

1975
Bay, Jason
Delgado, Carlos
Dickey, R. A.
Floyd, Cliff
Gee, Dillon
Hernandez, Orlando
Murphy, Daniel
Pagan, Angel
Pelfrey, Mike
Santana, Johan (2012 Highlights, Santana no-hitter)
Tejada, Ruben
Wright, David

1976
Acosta, Manny
Batista, Miguel
Capuano, Chris
Davis, Ike
Dickey, R. A.
Duda, Lucas
Harvey, Matt
Niese, Jon
Redding, Tim
Rodriguez, Francisco
Shoppach, Kelly

1977
Beltran, Carlos
Dickey, R. A.
Maine, John
Pagan, Angel
Pelfrey, Mike
Ramirez, Ramon
Rauch, Jon
Smith, Joe

1978
Dickey, R. A.
Isringhausen, Jason
Niese, Jon
Nieve, Fernando
Valdespin, Jordany
Wright, David

1979
Barajas, Rod
Edgin, Josh
Pelfrey, Mike
Reyes, José
Santana, Johan
Valdes, Raul


Counts by year:
1967 1
1970 9
1971 15
1972 25
1973 18
1974 14
1975 12
1976 11
1977 8
1978 6
1979 6

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 06 2013 09:22 AM
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I was hoping for one of these:

Edgy MD
Jun 06 2013 09:25 AM
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Remember: The correct abbreviation for "Coaches" is "Co'h's."

Zvon
Jun 06 2013 02:37 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:

1967
Wright, David (Mets Hit Kings, with Ed Kranepool)


How could I not have that card!

Musta slipped thru the cracks.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 06 2013 03:02 PM
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Zvon
Jun 06 2013 05:16 PM
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yay! Got #1!

ty:)
60 to go.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 06 2013 07:39 PM
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I guess this is about ready to unveil. I'll post the "public" announcement tomorrow, so this will kind of serve as a sneak peek:

Ultimate Mets Database Homemade Baseball Cards

Zvon
Jun 06 2013 07:52 PM
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This is great, ty. I can get em at my own pace.

The '71 Beltran=AWESOME!!
I like the choice of the "side" type, or whatever they call the alt card frame.

Edgy MD
Jun 06 2013 09:01 PM
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It strikes me that a modestly fancy pants programmer could create an auto-card generator.

Frayed Knot
Jun 06 2013 09:08 PM
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What's interesting here is that these are actual photos of Zvon chatting on the CPF



Zvon
Jun 06 2013 10:32 PM
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What's interesting here is that these are actual photos of Zvon chatting on the CPF





yaknowme :)

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 08 2013 02:19 PM
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Scorecards from the 2013 season are now available:

[url]http://ultimatemets.com/gamedetail.php?gameno=8215&tabno=D

Edgy MD
Dec 08 2013 03:36 PM
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This should be obvious to me, but how does Duda ground out to end the fourth and walk to start the fifth?

Where are the other runs scored that inning? Presumably, they all scored on the homerun, but they're not shown to have advanced.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 08 2013 03:38 PM
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Aw, crap. Maybe something went wrong.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 08 2013 03:57 PM
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Yeah... the Mets batted around in the fifth; ten batters went to the plate starting and ending with Byrd. I'll have to see why and how I lost the plate appearances from Cowgill to Buck. And Byrd's strikeout to end the fifth ended up slotted in the sixth inning.

ARRRGGGH!

Zvon
Dec 08 2013 04:04 PM
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Are these generated from a program or do you do them manually?

Edgy MD
Dec 08 2013 04:52 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Yeah... the Mets batted around in the fifth; ten batters went to the plate starting and ending with Byrd. I'll have to see why and how I lost the plate appearances from Cowgill to Buck. And Byrd's strikeout to end the fifth ended up slotted in the sixth inning.

ARRRGGGH!

Clearly batting around is the key to futzing up your programming. That makes sense and futzes up scorers everywhere.

It's just real lucky for you that you displayed a rare game where the team batted around. Else we mightn't have spotted the glitch for years.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 08 2013 05:23 PM
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Zvon wrote:
Are these generated from a program or do you do them manually?


I assure you, there's no way I would do them manually.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 08 2013 05:24 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
It's just real lucky for you that you displayed a rare game where the team batted around. Else we mightn't have spotted the glitch for years.


I had addressed the batting around thing; I'm not sure why it didn't work this time. My fear is that Retrosheet has altered the way they present the data somehow.