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metirish Apr 12 2013 09:16 AM

A snippet from the NY Times Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosure By JEFF Z. KLEIN and JUDY BATTISTA Published: April 11, 2013 120 Comments With growing expectations in recent weeks that a gay male athlete in one of the four major professional sports leagues in the United States will soon come out publicly for the first time, the leagues have begun exploring ways to accommodate and respond to such a landmark announcement. Here's the poll

Benjamin Grimm Apr 12 2013 09:21 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

I voted NBA. Why? I have no idea? The thing that would break precedent would be for it to be an active player, right? There have been former players who have come out of the closet. Alan Wiggins, maybe? I'm not sure.

Edgy MD Apr 12 2013 09:23 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Hockey. Lots of Europeans. Lots of guys who were prematurely sexualized in camps that are struggling to reconcile their identities. Lots of guys that have punched out enough teeth that they don't have to put up with insinuations that gayness and lack of toughness go hand-in-hand. And they work in a culture where clobbering somebody for calling you a fairy is a perfectly viable choice. A marketable one, even. What will be more interesting is whether a dozen other guys will walk through that door once it's open.

Mets – Willets Point Apr 12 2013 09:24 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

I'm not sure if sensational media drama is the way to handle something that should be seen as ordinary and every day.

metirish Apr 12 2013 09:24 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

The buzz is that it is indeed an active player. I'm picking the NFL.

metirish Apr 12 2013 09:25 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Mets – Willets Point wrote: I'm not sure if sensational media drama is the way to handle something that should be seen as ordinary and every day. This is true, I think things like this(not this thread) help us get to that place.

Edgy MD Apr 12 2013 09:26 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Benjamin Grimm wrote: The thing that would break precedent would be for it to be an active player, right? There have been former players who have come out of the closet. Alan Wiggins, maybe? I'm not sure. Wiggins died of AIDS, but I don't think he came out as gay. I believe Billy Bean and Glenn Burke remain the only self-acknowledged gay MLB-ers, though there seems to be some question of whether Bruce Berenyi is out but nobody bothered covering it.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 12 2013 09:27 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Is this "buzz" about a particular player who is yet to be identified but may be coming out very soon, or is it just the realization that this will inevitably happen sooner or later and the leagues want to be "prepared" when it does?

metirish Apr 12 2013 09:29 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

From what I am reading in two separate Times articles it is a particular player. Edit : and also the leagues are preparing

metirish Apr 12 2013 09:30 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosure By JEFF Z. KLEIN and JUDY BATTISTA Published: April 11, 2013 120 Comments With growing expectations in recent weeks that a gay male athlete in one of the four major professional sports leagues in the United States will soon come out publicly for the first time, the leagues have begun exploring ways to accommodate and respond to such a landmark announcement. The National Hockey League and its players announced Thursday what appeared to be the most comprehensive measure by a major men’s league in support of gay athletes. The National Football League is working with gay advocacy groups to smooth the way for acceptance and to discuss how to prepare for the moment when one of its players publicly discusses his homosexuality. The N.F.L. player Brendon Ayanbadejo, who has become something of an unofficial spokesman for the acceptance of gay players, has suggested repeatedly that there are a number of closeted active players in several sports who might eventually come out. “The thing is, we’re in contact with several players,” Ayanbadejo, who was recently released by the Baltimore Ravens and is unsure if his playing career is over, said in an interview this week. “I’m not going to name numbers. Several gay players in more sports than just football, and what we’re trying to facilitate is to get them together and do what they want to do, do what is right for them.” The N.H.L. said it had formed a partnership with the You Can Play Project — an advocacy group pledged to fighting homophobia in sports — to plan training and counseling on gay issues for its teams and players. Other leagues — the N.F.L., Major League Soccer, the National Basketball Association and Major League Baseball — have policies that prohibit discrimination based on sexual orientation, and various officials have spoken in support of gay athletes. The N.B.A. recently sent a memo to teams reminding them that interviews with players entering the N.B.A. draft should not include questions about religion, race and sexual orientation. “This has been our policy for years, and we strongly support the N.H.L.’s approach to it, and it’s our fervent hope that this draws less attention, not more, when a player eventually comes out,” David Stern, the N.B.A.’s commissioner, said. “We’ve included training in our rookie program, worked with” the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network, “and Grant Hill and Steve Nash have done television spots. We’ve made our views known to players who have expressed inappropriate views.” Patrick Burke, a scout for the Philadelphia Flyers and a founder of You Can Play, which was formed in March 2012, said the demographics of the N.H.L., with so many players from Canada and Northern Europe, were part of the reason the league had taken such a step. “We have players from around the world, and a lot of those players are from countries that are seen as more progressive on L.G.B.T. issues,” Mr. Burke said, using the abbreviation for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender. “So I don’t think it’s unreasonable or strange to think that the N.H.L. and the N.H.L.P.A. are driving this, in part because our players tend to be more comfortable with this issue.” Mr. Burke added that laying the groundwork for an openly gay player was not an official part of the program. “But we’re ready to do whatever that player wants,” he said. “If he wants to do a thousand interviews and march in pride parades, we’re equipped to handle that. And if he wants us to pass block for him so he never has to do another interview in his life, we’re equipped to handle that, too.” You Can Play will help run seminars for N.H.L. rookies to educate them on gay issues and make resources and personnel available to each team, as desired. The league and the players union will also work with You Can Play to integrate the project into their behavioral health program, enabling players to seek counseling on matters of sexual orientation confidentially. Mr. Burke said the joint venture would also step forward when players make homophobic remarks. In the N.F.L., the league’s security department would monitor public reaction, looking for potential threats from fans in the event a player comes out. Troy Vincent, a former player who is now the league’s executive charged with player engagement, and Anna Isaacson, the league’s community relations director, have been designated to cull ideas from gay advocacy groups and to build relationships with the groups that the N.F.L. might then use to help them address players. The ideas raised by advocacy groups are myriad: could the N.F.L. order stadiums to stop jokingly training their “kiss cams” on two men, for instance? Much of the conversation has centered on the league’s rookie symposium, a convention for incoming players, and the training of what the N.F.L. calls ambassadors, former players who can deliver messages the league believes are important. “We are in active discussions with L.G.B.T. partners,” said Robert Gulliver, the league’s top human resources executive. “We do want to sensitize incoming rookies as to how important it is to pay attention to L.G.B.T. issues, so people have an appreciation for some of the sensitive L.G.B.T. issues that are very topical right now in the league.” During a recent meeting with league officials and three organizations — Athlete Ally, the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation and You Can Play — Wade Davis, a former N.F.L. player who has come out and is now on You Can Play’s advisory board, suggested closed-door meetings with players at which they could freely ask questions about having a gay teammate. Mr. Davis acknowledged that because many N.F.L. players are deeply religious, open conversations about how their religious beliefs impact their feelings about gay players are necessary. “The players are the ones who are going to have to interact with this first out gay athlete,” Mr. Davis said. “Instead of pushing anything on them, let’s have an honest conversation. Even if somebody has a different opinion, their opinion is valid. One great thing about sports culture is the locker room is a P.C.-free zone. So players will say anything with the understanding they are family. That’s where you have to start from.” Some N.F.L. team owners have taken public positions in the broader issue of gay rights. Steve Tisch, a co-owner of the Giants, was part of the campaign in support of same-sex marriage in New York. The Patriots’ Robert K. Kraft is a longtime supporter of gay causes. He said he thought the N.F.L. was ready for a gay player to come out. “We know with our team, can someone help us win? We’re about winning,” Mr. Kraft said. “And anyone who can come to our team and help us win is going to be accepted and welcomed. How is the world not ready?” Mr. Ayanbadejo attended the recent meeting with the N.F.L. He said that since last week, “a couple of more players” seeking guidance and connection had called Athlete Ally, the group that supports gay athletes with which he is most closely affiliated. He said he is aware of “more than a handful” of gay players. Mr. Ayanbadejo said that a loose consortium of supporters — including former athletes in several sports who came out after their careers were over, psychologists and friends — were trying to help put those players in touch with one another. What happens after that, he said, is up to them. “As far as what happens, none of that is coordinated,” he said. “It’s going to be on their times, their terms. The only thing coordinated is support, them being able to talk to other athletes who have been in their shoes. We want to put them together, and we can be there to support them in whatever they want to do.”

Benjamin Grimm Apr 12 2013 09:31 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

If this isn't the definitive word on Bruce Berenyi, I don't know what is.

Mets – Willets Point Apr 12 2013 09:34 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Still uncertain on Rusty.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 12 2013 10:11 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Benjamin Grimm wrote: If this isn't the definitive word on Bruce Berenyi, I don't know what is. I love that Berenyi rates "highly guy." As though, he's not just into guys, not just fastidious and neat, but full-on Carson Kressley, skipping down the street, singing, with a prominent lisp.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 12 2013 10:24 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

metirish wrote: The buzz is that it is indeed an active player. I'm picking the NFL. I remember hearing footbally buzz a few weeks ago, from various quarters. I'm with Irish.

Fman99 Apr 12 2013 10:24 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

I voted for the NFL. I think the helmets provide an additional layer of anonymity, at least, until you out yourself. Though the NHL guess makes sense. If you're a gay guy, there are advantages to missing those teeth

Mets – Willets Point Apr 12 2013 10:59 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Peyton Manning Comes Out As Gay...

metsmarathon Apr 12 2013 11:17 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

i wonder, if a major league soccer player came out, would anybody really care? i feel like the nfl is probably the most likely because of the whole militaristic mindset there, where teammates are teammates first, and the general attitude is if coach wills it, then i will it to. so if a player comes out, the masses would follow the leader and tow the line, if so directed. it might be the easiest environment within which to enact a mind-change, once the seeds are in place. dissent is frowned upon. it's unfootballlike. also its more likely where the gay player could just prove his toughness at the drop of a hat. baseball being a much more individualized sport, i think there would be less of an expectation that the clubhouse would be okay with it in general, with a greater likleihood of individual dissent. you'd think that the greater individuality of baseball would help in this regard, but instead i imagine it would only allow for more strident and resillient opposition irrespective of what hte general attitude is. plus, how do you prove your manliness in baseball? fighting? hitting home runs? in the weight room? it's a little less clear cut.

metirish Apr 12 2013 11:26 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

A gay MLB player would have me pining for Fran Healy " here comes the big guy with the big stick" " he's been waiting all night to explode"

Frayed Knot Apr 12 2013 11:28 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Is this "buzz" about a particular player who is yet to be identified but may be coming out very soon, or is it just the realization that this will inevitably happen sooner or later and the leagues want to be "prepared" when it does? There's a guy currently with the Baltimore Ravens I believe (forget the name) who, while not gay himself, has come out publicly for gay marriage in recent months. He added that he knows of several (3 or 4 I believe was the number) active NFL players who were ready to come out and pronounce. That specifically, along with just the general trends of higher acceptance/approval of same-sex marriage, is what's kicking off (no pun intended) this latest round of speculation. On edit: (from one of the above articles): The N.F.L. player Brendon Ayanbadejo, who has become something of an unofficial spokesman for the acceptance of gay players, has suggested repeatedly that there are a number of closeted active players in several sports who might eventually come out. “The thing is, we’re in contact with several players,” Ayanbadejo, who was recently released by the Baltimore Ravens and is unsure if his playing career is over, said in an interview this week. “I’m not going to name numbers. Several gay players in more sports than just football, and what we’re trying to facilitate is to get them together and do what they want to do, do what is right for them.”

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 12 2013 11:37 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

metsmarathon wrote: i wonder, if a major league soccer player came out, would anybody really care? No, apparently... because it happened several weeks back. I suppose it's prudent, and it guarantees built-in support once the outing happens, and I'm probably just being a little old-minded on this, but.. it does seem a little odd, this coordination/facilitation/"we're in touch with several players" dynamic.

Mets – Willets Point Apr 12 2013 11:40 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

metsmarathon wrote: i wonder, if a major league soccer player came out, would anybody really care? All we'd get to see is Jim Rome smugly proclaiming "I told you so."

Ceetar Apr 12 2013 11:58 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

I'll go with NFL just because the article seems to suggest a dialogue between Ayanbadejo (and he says we..who is he referring to?) and gay players, which would lend credence to the expectation that it's coming soon. And it's the offseason there, which I think helps dull it somewhat? That it's happened in soccer only makes me wary that it's going to be a media debacle more than a breakthrough. Besides the leagues preparing, ESPN and major talk radio stations should prepare and caution against bigotry. You know SOMEONE is going to say something, and it's probably going to be a talking head somewhere. (Although I wouldn't put it past ESPN to expect and want that, just for the buzz and further analysis it would create)

Benjamin Grimm Apr 12 2013 12:02 PM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

It would be great if it led Mike Francesa to put his foot in his mouth in a way that he has to get fired.

Ceetar Apr 12 2013 12:15 PM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Benjamin Grimm wrote: It would be great if it led Mike Francesa to put his foot in his mouth in a way that he has to get fired. probably. Of course, they might find someone worse to fill the spot.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 12 2013 12:17 PM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Mets – Willets Point wrote: I'm not sure if sensational media drama is the way to handle something that should be seen as ordinary and every day. Maybe the Mets'll build a rotunda in the outee's honor.

Vic Sage Apr 12 2013 01:19 PM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Ceetar wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: It would be great if it led Mike Francesa to put his foot in his mouth in a way that he has to get fired. probably. Of course, they might find someone worse to fill the spot. i'd be willing to risk it.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 12 2013 01:23 PM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Francessa is a leading proponent of the "I don't careh what ya do in ya bedroom, ya just don't tawk abouddit."

Ceetar Apr 12 2013 01:31 PM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Francessa is a leading proponent of the "I don't careh what ya do in ya bedroom, ya just don't tawk abouddit." so he says, with no pressure. Suddenly it becomes a story that he feels he has to talk about and he's probably just as capable of a "I don't care what you do just shut up and don't talk about it/pretend" quote as the next radio personality.

metirish Apr 12 2013 01:48 PM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Mike will take credit for the guy coming out.

Mets – Willets Point Apr 12 2013 08:14 PM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Screw having just one player make an announcement, I want to see a whole TEAM declare their gayness. Or at least a significant part of a team. "There's a shift change and the Flyers' Gay Line is hopping over the dasher and coming out on to the ice." "Dusty has seen enough from Arroyo, and is going to go to the pen. Let's see if the Reds' all-gay relief corps can stop the bleeding." "The Steeler's secondary are strong in their man-to-man coverage and not just because they're gay."

Ceetar Apr 29 2013 09:45 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

and boom. Jason Collins.

Edgy MD Apr 29 2013 09:45 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Yup. NBA wins. Despite only one vote here. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/magazi ... ba-player/

Swan Swan H Apr 29 2013 09:49 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Mets – Willets Point wrote: Screw having just one player make an announcement, I want to see a whole TEAM declare their gayness. Or at least a significant part of a team. "There's a shift change and the Flyers' Gay Line is hopping over the dasher and coming out on to the ice." "Dusty has seen enough from Arroyo, and is going to go to the pen. Let's see if the Reds' all-gay relief corps can stop the bleeding." "The Steeler's secondary are strong in their man-to-man coverage and not just because they're gay." "And the Mariners gay pinch-hitters spark another come-from-behind victory."

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 29 2013 09:50 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

I'm a also coming out as black gay NBA center.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 29 2013 09:55 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

This is a Mets forum. So which Mets or ex Mets do you think are gay? NTTAWTT!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 29 2013 10:11 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Jason Collins' father, Terry Collins, is very gay.

metirish Apr 29 2013 10:13 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Glad to mentioned he's black........anyway, good for him, not earth shattering news as should be the case....couldn't find it on the NYT or the Guardian....Tebow is news though.

Mets – Willets Point Apr 29 2013 10:15 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

metirish wrote: Tebow is news though. If Tebow announced he were gay, ESPN and CBN would simultaneously explode.

seawolf17 Apr 29 2013 10:20 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Mets – Willets Point wrote: metirish wrote: Tebow is news though. If Tebow announced he were gay, ESPN and CBN would simultaneously explode. Not to mention the entire Christian community.

Nymr83 Apr 29 2013 11:10 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

I'd like to thank Collins for at least trying to disrupt another day of needless Tebow coverage. Sadly, nothing short of a terrrorist attack on the superbowl could draw ESPN away from its favorite subject, Tim Tebow.

Edgy MD Apr 29 2013 11:42 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

This is a real chance for Sports Illustrated to re-launch their credibility.

Nymr83 Apr 29 2013 11:57 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Let the stupid comments begin! Mike Wallace tweets then deleted and apologizes

Mets – Willets Point Apr 29 2013 12:02 PM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Nymr83 wrote: Let the stupid comments begin! Mike Wallace tweets then deleted and apologizes The 60 Minutes guy?

Benjamin Grimm Apr 29 2013 12:04 PM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Isn't he dead at the present time?

Mets – Willets Point Apr 29 2013 12:05 PM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Isn't he dead at the present time? Dead and homophobic on Twitter.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 29 2013 12:10 PM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Isn't that always the way?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 29 2013 12:18 PM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

He's a twin, isn't he? Any comment from sib/fellow-NBAer Jarron? OE: Obvious question asked, obvious question answered.

metirish Apr 29 2013 12:37 PM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

I should say that having read what has come out in the last few hours this guy is very classy and likely the perfect dude to do this.....if that makes sense....and reading what his brother said(via that link) it would seem to me that class runs in the family.

metsmarathon Apr 29 2013 02:37 PM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

it shouldn't be news that there's a gay athlete out there. unfortunately, it needs to be.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 29 2013 03:00 PM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

And hopefully this brings us closer to the day when it won't be.

Edgy MD Apr 29 2013 03:12 PM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Red Sox invite Collins to throw out the first pitch.

metirish Apr 29 2013 04:23 PM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Step forward Chris Broussard , wow, just wow http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/ ... about.html [youtube:38lgbmj8]player_embedded&v=G4PTUPXdfE0[/youtube:38lgbmj8]

Nymr83 Apr 29 2013 05:32 PM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

I'm not sure who was being sarcastic and who wasn't, but if anyone didn't know, Mike Wallace is an NFL WR

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 29 2013 05:35 PM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Edgy MD wrote: Red Sox invite Collins to throw out the first pitch. I'm thinking more than a few teams will be tripping over themselves and each other to do the same.

Frayed Knot Apr 29 2013 07:01 PM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Edgy MD wrote: Red Sox invite Collins to throw out the first pitch. And Neil Diamond will show up that day to sing 'Sweet Carmine' (or maybe not)

Nymr83 Apr 29 2013 08:30 PM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Red Sox invite Collins to throw out the first pitch. I'm thinking more than a few teams will be tripping over themselves and each other to do the same. I know the Mets suck and all, but do other teams really want to play them so badly that they're inviting the Mets' manager to throw out the first pitch?

MFS62 Apr 29 2013 09:15 PM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Collins doesn't have a contract for next year. He could have waited until he signed a new one before he announced this. I applaud him for his courage and wish him the best. Later

Swan Swan H Apr 30 2013 07:17 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Tweeted by LA Kings forward Dustin Penner: Dustin Penner ?@Dustinpenner25 Honestly I don't care if you are gay or straight as my teammate. As long as you don't listen to Nickelback. #courage

Frayed Knot Apr 30 2013 07:35 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

What I learned from yesterday's announcement: That there is a NBA player on Washington named Jason Collins

Edgy MD Apr 30 2013 08:23 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

A closet can be an uncomfortable place when you're seven feet tall and 18 stone.

Mets – Willets Point Apr 30 2013 08:29 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Actually the second gay Wizard after Dumbledore.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 30 2013 08:39 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Mets – Willets Point wrote: Actually the second gay Wizard after Dumbledore. lollll

Ashie62 Apr 30 2013 04:14 PM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

I guess Jason Collin's 9 year female ex-fiancee has no gaydar...Good lord..

Edgy MD Apr 30 2013 08:43 PM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Happens all the time.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 30 2013 10:33 PM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

Hell, his twin was surprised by the revelation.

Centerfield May 01 2013 09:25 AM Re: Major Sports Leagues Prepare for the ‘I’m Gay’ Disclosur

I remember the twins when they played at Stanford. I hadn't realized either of them had an NBA career. Good for Collins. Let's hope no one says anything too stupid.