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Edgy MD
Apr 15 2013 01:14 PM

Explosions reported at finish line. Dozens reported injured.

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/lo ... inish_line

OE: Deadspin running some bloody shots from the scene.

Edgy MD
Apr 15 2013 01:17 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Willets Point, please check in.

Edgy MD
Apr 15 2013 01:23 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Can't get the Boston Herald online.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 15 2013 01:24 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

The Associated Press wrote:

Two explosions at the finish line of the Boston Marathon have resulted in injuries.

Bloody spectators were being carried Monday to the medical tent that had been set up to care for fatigued runners. Police wove through competitors as they ran back toward the course.

“There are a lot of people down,” said one man, whose bib No. 17528 identified him as Frank Deruyter of North Carolina. He was not injured, but marathon workers were carrying one woman, who did not appear to be a runner, to the medical area as blood gushed from her leg. A Boston police officer was wheeled from the course with a leg injury that was bleeding.

About three hours after the winners crossed the line, there was a loud explosion on the north side of Boylston Street, just before the photo bridge that marks the finish line. Another explosion could be heard a few seconds later.

Edgy MD
Apr 15 2013 01:25 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Screengrab from CBS coverage.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 15 2013 01:25 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

jeez

Edgy MD
Apr 15 2013 01:46 PM
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Twitter feed from within a mile of finish line, filtered for (warning: unpleasant) photos.

https://twitter.com/search/realtime?q=M ... i&src=typd

Edgy MD
Apr 15 2013 01:53 PM
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Willets reports on the Facebook that he and family are OKs.

themetfairy
Apr 15 2013 01:55 PM
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I'm just horrified and heartsick. I can't even process this.

I have one friend running today - I'm waiting for word from him....

metsmarathon
Apr 15 2013 02:25 PM
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heartsick. that's the best word for it.

i feel so awful for the people where were there for all the right reasons, and then this thing that is so good is turned upside down by some fucking cowards for god knows why.

Edgy MD
Apr 15 2013 02:27 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Two more explosive devices found and are being dismantled.

Zvon
Apr 15 2013 02:57 PM
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This is fucked up stuff. I thought of TMF and very glad you weren't there, and very happy to hear the Willets are safe.

themetfairy
Apr 15 2013 03:03 PM
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Thanks Zvon.

And I'm relieved to hear that my friend is OK.

I just can't process this; it's overwhelming.

Edgy MD
Apr 15 2013 03:13 PM
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Yeah, strange to feel all those old emotions coming back. I wonder about societies, like Syria, living like this every day. How could they even begin to function?

d'Kong76
Apr 15 2013 03:29 PM
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Been off-the-air a lot today ... is anyone claiming responsibility?
They had the annual game at Fenway today, thankfully that went
unaffected. Crazy-assed world we live in.

Edgy MD
Apr 15 2013 03:33 PM
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Truthers are citing gummint lies and coverup, even before the gummint says anything. Nice.

(I had a link to such a report in this post, but then I figured, why feed the attention addict his hit counts? Or feed you all miserable horseshit. I felt diseased enough just reading that nonsense.)

cooby
Apr 15 2013 03:34 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Edgy MD wrote:
Twitter feed from within a mile of finish line, filtered for (warning: unpleasant) photos.

https://twitter.com/search/realtime?q=M ... i&src=typd



Not just unpleasant...they will make you cry

Edgy MD
Apr 15 2013 03:43 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Yeah, sorry for the gross understatement.

cooby
Apr 15 2013 03:47 PM
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No Edgy, I didn't mean it that way...but I just saw a man with both feet blown off and just stumps, on a wheelchair...if that was a real picture...words just cannot describe that, only tears.

Young ladies with dazed looks laying there bleeding...

I was not prepared.

metirish
Apr 15 2013 03:55 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Obama to talk to the nation at 6:10

Ashie62
Apr 15 2013 04:56 PM
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God bless to all...

The Second Spitter
Apr 15 2013 06:54 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

I hate people.

MFS62
Apr 15 2013 09:59 PM
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Horrible.
Prayers and comfort to the families involved.

Later

Edgy MD
Apr 16 2013 08:36 AM
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Glub.

seawolf17
Apr 16 2013 08:57 AM
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Just read that story too. I can't even...

metirish
Apr 16 2013 08:59 AM
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Daily Mail claims that poor kids mom suffered brain injuries, his 6 year old sister lost a leg......it just breaks your heart.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 16 2013 09:00 AM
Re: Boston Marathon

There's no punishment severe enough for whoever did this.

The Second Spitter
Apr 16 2013 09:10 AM
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The first thing that springs to mind would be to introduce the perp to the 6 year old, so he can tell her tête-à-tête why he did this.

Edgy MD
Apr 16 2013 09:16 AM
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Well, I certainly don't want this to be seen as a capitulation, but we've got to call a halt to our drone program, because we are maiming and killing civilians -- including children and first responders --- with shocking regularity.

Vic Sage
Apr 16 2013 09:22 AM
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Yup. You put that casual disregard for human life out into the universe, it has a way of finding its way home.
That being said, hunt down these bastards and cut their nuts off.

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 16 2013 02:00 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Every time I see Martin I cry. He looks like he could be any boy at my son's school.

Also, the young woman who died was the daughter of a woman who works in catering at my place of work.

seawolf17
Apr 16 2013 02:28 PM
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Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Every time I see Martin I cry. He looks like he could be any boy at my son's school.

This. It's getting posted all over the place and it gets me every time.

Edgy MD
Apr 16 2013 02:33 PM
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I keep hearing Pete Townsend singing "People... stop hurting people... ."

Do something with those tears. Make that pain count.

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 16 2013 03:30 PM
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I had a vacation day today and went downtown to lead a children's walking tour. There were a lot of people out and about (many in BAA jackets) and you wouldn't know anything bad had happened by outward appearances (except for all the extra cops with body armor, rifles, and dogs). 34 people showed up for the tours divided among four guides. I got the stragglers, a boy and his mom from the suburbs. After the tour and lunch I went to Children's Hospital and donated blood (something I'd actually planned to do today anyway). So I guess I did something with the pain. I was an ambassador for the city I love and gave something of myself that may help someone else live.

themetfairy
Apr 16 2013 07:19 PM
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My friend on the Detroit news, after coming back from cheering on her son in Boston

Chad Ochoseis
Apr 16 2013 07:31 PM
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A friend who lives in the Boston area posted a link on Facebook...relatives of a friend of hers - a mom and daughter - were seriously injured.

The Lowell Sun wrote:
LOWELL -- Sydney Corcoran has cheated death once.

While crossing a busy street at Salisbury Beach in June 2011, Corcoran was struck by a car driven by a senior citizen. The accident left her with severe injuries, including a fractured skull.

But Sydney, 18, a Lowell High School senior bound for Middlesex Community College this fall, dug deep and fought valiantly to preserve her young life. Family members breathed sighs of relief, hoping they would never have to relive such a nightmare.

But on Monday, shrapnel from one of the bombs that exploded during the Boston Marathon shredded both of Sydney's legs, leaving her with deep arterial injuries, said her older brother, Tyler Corcoran, during an interview Tuesday morning in the kitchen of the family's home in the city's Pawtucketville neighborhood.


Read more here.

If you're trying to get rid of some of that pesky money that's been taking up space in your wallet, you can donate here.

Fman99
Apr 16 2013 08:07 PM
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The whole thing makes me ill. It hurts me as a runner, and a parent, and a person.

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 17 2013 05:05 AM
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Martin Richard made that sign to commemorate Trayvon Martin.

metirish
Apr 17 2013 07:51 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 17 2013 08:06 AM

There's a story in the NY Times about how a dad finds out that his son is one of the many injured.....it's the guy in the wheelchair being helped by the guy in the cowboy hat.....it is heartbreaking

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/17/us/in ... ml?hp&_r=0

of course Carlos Arredondo(cowboy hat) has his own heartbreaking story....truly an inspirational man.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carl-gibs ... 94748.html

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 17 2013 07:59 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 17 2013 08:10 AM

Arredondo lives nearby to me and is a well-known figure in the area as a peace activist. I've seen his truck many times which is a rolling memorial to the son he lost in Iraq. Quite the hero. I won't post it here but I saw a photo of Arredondo actually holding the young man's femoral artery in his hand and pinching it shut. I can't imagine the presence of mind to overcome fear and just go in there and even know what the right thing to do is in the moment.

There's a video of him being interviewed after the attack covered in blood and trembling.

metirish
Apr 17 2013 08:09 AM
Re: Boston Marathon

This is what Jeff Bauman's dad said about Arrendondo

The Baumans knew how lucky Jeff had been. “The man in the cowboy hat — he saved Jeff’s life,” Ms. Bauman said. Mr. Bauman’s eyes widened. He said: “There’s a video where he goes right to Jeff, picks him right up and puts him on the wheelchair and starts putting the tourniquet on him and pushing him out. I got to talk to this guy!”

Edgy MD
Apr 17 2013 11:45 AM
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Reportedly, an arrest is imminent.

Centerfield
Apr 17 2013 12:15 PM
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Reportedly now in custody.

Makes me wish we allowed cruel and unusual punishment.

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 17 2013 12:19 PM
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Remembering how Richard Jewell was arrested in Atlanta shortly after the Olympic bombings and the real culprit Eric Rudolph was not caught until years later, I don't believe that a "suspect in custody" is anywhere close to the end of this investigation.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 17 2013 12:20 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Good point.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 17 2013 12:27 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Did anyone see Ken Burns' CENTRAL PARK 5 documentary last nite? That will heighten your suspicion of law-and-order's motives in high-profile cases. Jeez Louise.

metirish
Apr 17 2013 12:44 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Make of this what you will

@Boston_Police Despite reports to the contrary there has not been an arrest in the Marathon attack

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 17 2013 12:49 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

metirish wrote:
Make of this what you will

@Boston_Police Despite reports to the contrary there has not been an arrest in the Marathon attack


As I was saying...

The media needs to settle down. They're like highstrung terriers.

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 17 2013 12:54 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Boston Globe covers all the angles.

Frayed Knot
Apr 17 2013 02:07 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

The day of the bombing the NY Post's on-line headline said at least 12 were dead "sources say".
By that night they had taken that banner off the top although they stuck to the dozen dead in the body of the main article.
By the following morning both claims were gone.

And the -- two?, three?, five? -- unexploded bombs turned out to be non-existent as well.



On a side note: When did the Boston marathon turn into such a non-elite monster?
Used to be that you had to turn in a (very tough) minimum standard for your age/sex in another race before you could even get in to Boston which served to keep the mediocre runners out and the numbers much smaller than that of New York or many of the other big city races.
So when I first heard that the explosions were approx 4 hours after the start my immediate reaction was that most of the runners would have been done by that point until I was shocked to learn that there were nearly 27,000 total many of whom were still out there plugging along.

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 17 2013 02:23 PM
Re: Boston Marathon



On a side note: When did the Boston marathon turn into such a non-elite monster?
Used to be that you had to turn in a (very tough) minimum standard for your age/sex in another race before you could even get in to Boston which served to keep the mediocre runners out and the numbers much smaller than that of New York or many of the other big city races.
So when I first heard that the explosions were approx 4 hours after the start my immediate reaction was that most of the runners would have been done by that point until I was shocked to learn that there were nearly 27,000 total many of whom were still out there plugging along.


Runners have to qualify by time or be part of a registered charity team (there are 35 charities). Runners are also released in waves from the starting line.

themetfairy
Apr 17 2013 02:31 PM
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FK - I lived in Boston in the mid-80's. I wasn't a runner back then, but I had to cross the marathon route near the 25 mile mark in order to get back to my apartment. I know from experience that there was a significant number of stragglers even back then, still running in the late afternoon or so.

That said, most elite races these days offer a decent number of charity spots. So in that respect there may be more stragglers today than in the past.

soupcan
Apr 17 2013 02:57 PM
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The qualifying times are still pretty tough.

Frayed Knot
Apr 17 2013 03:29 PM
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As Willets says, it sounds like it was the charity/group running angle that expanded the field even as the individual qualifications maintain a rather high standard.
There will always be stragglers in any race but, years back, Boston was definitely not nearly as big as the numbers mentioned this week and was much more elitist than NYC or others which set themselves up as more of a 'peoples race'.

Ashie62
Apr 17 2013 03:57 PM
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Back in the day there were few races...Boston was for the well qualified. New York was more inclusive mainly due to the growth in the sport.

metsmarathon
Apr 17 2013 07:29 PM
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they recently toughened their standards, too.

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 18 2013 08:55 AM
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Live stream for memorial service.

Zvon
Apr 18 2013 12:48 PM
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I still can't find the words to say how I'm feeling about this horrible attack on innocent people. As we learn more about those we lost my feelings run deeper and sadder and angrier. One thing I am very proud of. How Americans come together in times of crisis. On the other side of the coin, it's a shame it takes a crisis such as this to make us work together.

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 18 2013 01:23 PM
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Boston being Boston. A National Guard truck on Boston Common got ticketed.

themetfairy
Apr 18 2013 02:06 PM
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Zvon wrote:
I still can't find the words to say how I'm feeling about this horrible attack on innocent people. As we learn more about those we lost my feelings run deeper and sadder and angrier. One thing I am very proud of. How Americans come together in times of crisis. On the other side of the coin, it's a shame it takes a crisis such as this to make us work together.



This!

Edgy MD
Apr 18 2013 03:30 PM
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Suspect photos apparently being released.

cooby
Apr 18 2013 03:43 PM
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Creepy watching them. Those other people in the films must be getting the heeby jeebies knowing they were close to them

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 18 2013 06:58 PM
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Dressing like college bros may be the most effective disguise.

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 18 2013 11:10 PM
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Crazy shit going down around here. A MIT police officer was shot and killed in Cambridge, followed by a car jacking and chase that lead to a shootout in Watertown. The carjackers were throwing explosives out the window. Not sure if this is all related, but crazy nonetheless.

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 19 2013 02:25 AM
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Suspects in Watertown shootout are the Marathon bombing suspects. One has been killed, the other is still at large. Another police officer critically wounded. Bombs are scattered all over Watertown.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 19 2013 05:23 AM
Re: Boston Marathon

holy hell.

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 19 2013 05:25 AM
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Pretty much everything is on lockdown.

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2013 05:49 AM
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Here's hoping Bro #2 survives.

metsmarathon
Apr 19 2013 06:14 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Here's hoping Bro #2 survives.


yes, very very much.

metirish
Apr 19 2013 06:18 AM
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Riveting stuff .......huge kudos to the law enforcement people involved....didn't know much about the Deval Patrick but from what I have seen the last several days I like him.

metirish
Apr 19 2013 06:33 AM
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Jake Tapper on CNN has a friend of the suspect on air right now.....after a long interview, the kid was great btw Tapper says something to the effect , not sure if he is watching us right now but as a friend Eric what would you like to say to him.


It's surreal.

d'Kong76
Apr 19 2013 06:40 AM
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F X Healy lives in Watertown ... he won't answer my twats.
One of my best friends is on lock down at the Watertown PO,
hopefully they find the rodent soon and either trap him or ex-
terminate him.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 19 2013 06:54 AM
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Kong76 wrote:
he won't answer my twats.


Ewwww... I wouldn't do that either!

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2013 07:23 AM
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Oh, he's going to be surrounded and likely die. I just hope he is captured alive, because if he is extinguished, the conspiracy theories will fill the atmosphere before his body hits the ground. And our public discourse will be further poisoned.

themetfairy
Apr 19 2013 07:24 AM
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Best wishes to your friend Kase - I can't even imagine what this has to be like.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 19 2013 07:27 AM
Re: Boston Marathon

Edgy MD wrote:
Oh, he's going to be surrounded and likely die. I just hope he is captured alive, because if he is extinguished, the conspiracy theories will fill the atmosphere before his body hits the ground. And our public discourse will be further poisoned.


I'd also like for them to get the chance to interrogate him. It may or may not prove fruitful, but I'd like them to at least get the chance.

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2013 07:33 AM
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Just having somebody who gets perp walked around, has a biographical background, and is represented by a lawyer will help quell some of the inevitable notion that these two are patsies for a shadowy quasi-government operation with a name like "The Claw" "The Fourth Wave" or "The French Mistake."

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 19 2013 07:54 AM
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My friend in Watertown has been posting the funniest Facebook status updates. I told her to stop making us laugh while we're worried about her.

Ashie62
Apr 19 2013 08:06 AM
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The media loves this stuff...Too much coverage.

Vic Sage
Apr 19 2013 08:42 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Just having somebody who gets perp walked around, has a biographical background, and is represented by a lawyer will help quell some of the inevitable notion that these two are patsies for a shadowy quasi-government operation with a name like "The Claw" "The Fourth Wave" or "The French Mistake."


You underestimate the tinfoil hat brigade. There's more than enough evidence that the Holocaust occurred, for example, yet there are some wackjobs (including academics and credentialed, published wackjobs), who insist it was all made up. Conspiracists are like religionists, in that their views are impervious to reality. We could catch this Russian psychopath, perp walk him, get a full confession in open court with the ghost of Clarence Darrow as his lawyer, then have him write a tell-all book outlining in detail the why, where, what and how of his actions, and we would still have those insisting on a governmental coverup aimed to rob us of our guns.

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2013 09:12 AM
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I said some.

The question isn't to me whether such a movement happens, but how much incursion into the mainstream it gets. Will Rosie O'Donnell endorse your "findings" on television? Will Denard Span watch your youtube video with mis-spelled captions and tweet that it's "interesting" and "makes you think."

metsmarathon
Apr 19 2013 10:29 AM
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i already have one facebook "friend" reminding us not to forget about the original suspect #1, the since exhonerated saudi student, that obama is secretly trying to deport. for... some reason...

it's better for me to ignore him forever.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 19 2013 11:38 AM
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The Red Sox are scheduled to play the Royals at Fenway tonight, but they're not sure if the game will have to be canceled because of the lockdown.

I say they should play the game even if they're not able to allow fans into the ballpark. Play it for the TV cameras. I'm sure the people of Boston, while locked in their homes, would appreciate the distraction of watching a Sox game on TV.

d'Kong76
Apr 19 2013 11:49 AM
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themetfairy wrote:
Best wishes to your friend Kase - I can't even imagine what this has to be like.


Thanks, he's fine. He's in a government building and protected
by a lot of heavily armed personnel. He's funny, he texted that
at least he's getting OT on lockdown because today was his day
off but went in because he's a union rep.

I can't stop watching the news channels, I'm like paralyzed and
have gotten nothing done.

metirish
Apr 19 2013 11:53 AM
Re: Boston Marathon

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
The Red Sox are scheduled to play the Royals at Fenway tonight, but they're not sure if the game will have to be canceled because of the lockdown.

I say they should play the game even if they're not able to allow fans into the ballpark. Play it for the TV cameras. I'm sure the people of Boston, while locked in their homes, would appreciate the distraction of watching a Sox game on TV.



I like the sentiment but I suppose law enforcement resources wold be needed and right now they are needed to catch this thug.

cooby
Apr 19 2013 12:17 PM
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Aunt a difficult interview

metirish
Apr 19 2013 12:42 PM
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Feel awful for the family, apparently there are two sisters that live over here, parents back in the home country.

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2013 12:57 PM
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Thought he'd be dead or captured by now. How does this guy escape, on foot, from a firefight that killed his brother, and somehow elude this massive dragnet this long?

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 19 2013 01:03 PM
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My fear is that he's in somebody's house, holding them hostage.

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2013 01:11 PM
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Yabbut, they're supposedly combing every house in the perimeter.

metirish
Apr 19 2013 01:20 PM
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Both the Sox and Bruins games are postponed.

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2013 01:28 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Yabbut, they're supposedly combing every house in the perimeter.

Unless they somehow have him holed up in a house and the press hasn't gotten wind of it.

cooby
Apr 19 2013 02:30 PM
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I am starting to think he is dead

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2013 02:35 PM
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Dead and hauled out with the press sniffing? I'm more inclined to believe they've captured him and have a nice little house or a van where they are beating the snot out of him.

This manhunt is starting to give new meaning to the thread title.

cooby
Apr 19 2013 02:38 PM
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No, I mean dead somewhere by himself and nobody has found him yet.

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2013 02:41 PM
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That'd be impressive to be dead and still winning a massive game of hide and seek. I suppose he could've crawled into a sewer, drowned and he'll wash up in Boston Harbor in a day or two.

cooby
Apr 19 2013 02:44 PM
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Well that is true, but if he's dead, I don't think he's feeling any triumph about it

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 19 2013 02:55 PM
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He could be the man who never returned.

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2013 02:56 PM
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OH!

Swan Swan H
Apr 19 2013 02:56 PM
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We're supposed to be driving up to Boston tomorrow morning. Meeting friends for dinner, seeing Great Big Sea at the Wilbur Theater, and staying at the DoubleTree around the corner from the theater. This is less than trivial in the big picture, of course, but I'm hoping to get to go just for the sake of seeing things get back to normal up there.

Last time we went to see Great Big Sea in Massachusetts (Lowell, to be precise) it was the weekend of Hurricane Irene.

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 19 2013 03:20 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Tired of this shit.

Zvon
Apr 19 2013 05:11 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Not official yet but it looks like they got #2.

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 19 2013 05:11 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Body found on a boat in a Watertown backyard. Suspect is said to be pinned down. Not sure if these are at the same place.

metirish
Apr 19 2013 05:44 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

There are reports that the FBI had been on the older brothers tail for a few years, the mom says they were "following" him for three years.....if this is true then there will be some hard questions to answer.

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2013 05:52 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

I think there's no doubt about that.

But, well... people will retreat into politically safe positions.

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 19 2013 06:03 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Take a good hard look at the motherf**king boat!

Frayed Knot
Apr 19 2013 06:14 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

[youtube]3gV1sxB8TxI[/youtube]


Agents of the law
Luckless pedestrians
I know you're out there
With rage in your eyes and your megaphones
Saying all is forgiven
Mad Dog surrender
How can I answer
A man of my mind can do anything

I'm a bookkeeper's son
I don't want to shoot no one
Well I crossed my old man back in Oregon
Don't take me alive
Got a case of dynamite
I could hold out here all night
Yes I crossed my old man back in Oregon
Don't take me alive


Can you hear the evil crowd
The lies and the laughter
I hear my inside
The mechanized hum of another world
Where no sun is shining
No red light flashing
Here in this darkness
I know what I've done
I know all at once who I am

I'm a bookkeeper's son
I don't want to shoot no one
Well I crossed my old man back in Oregon
Don't take me alive
Got a case of dynamite
I could hold out here all night
Yes I crossed my old man back in Oregon
Don't take me alive

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2013 06:45 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Reports starting to filter in that he's alive and in custody.

Faint chants of USA! at ballpark, but no comment from Howie.

Ashie62
Apr 19 2013 06:46 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Number 2 is ready to be flushed

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 19 2013 06:46 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Suspect in Custody.

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2013 06:47 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Daddy tells me that if you hear it from Howie Rose, it must be true.

metirish
Apr 19 2013 06:48 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Suspect in Custody.



Great news.

Fman99
Apr 19 2013 06:53 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Frayed Knot wrote:
[youtube]3gV1sxB8TxI[/youtube]


Agents of the law
Luckless pedestrians
I know you're out there
With rage in your eyes and your megaphones
Saying all is forgiven
Mad Dog surrender
How can I answer
A man of my mind can do anything

I'm a bookkeeper's son
I don't want to shoot no one
Well I crossed my old man back in Oregon
Don't take me alive
Got a case of dynamite
I could hold out here all night
Yes I crossed my old man back in Oregon
Don't take me alive


Can you hear the evil crowd
The lies and the laughter
I hear my inside
The mechanized hum of another world
Where no sun is shining
No red light flashing
Here in this darkness
I know what I've done
I know all at once who I am

I'm a bookkeeper's son
I don't want to shoot no one
Well I crossed my old man back in Oregon
Don't take me alive
Got a case of dynamite
I could hold out here all night
Yes I crossed my old man back in Oregon
Don't take me alive


Love that song.

metirish
Apr 19 2013 07:12 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Suspect 1 was married, not sure if I knew that, spare a thought for his wife and kid....damn.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... w-him.html

Frayed Knot
Apr 19 2013 07:34 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Fman99 wrote:
Love that song.


Long one of my fave SD tunes and, in this case, the lyrics practically read like a timely press release.

metirish
Apr 19 2013 07:51 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Per police chief , perp is in serious condition.

metirish
Apr 19 2013 08:01 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Amazin, infrared gadgetry on a chopper was able to identify a body in the boat......

Zvon
Apr 19 2013 08:10 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Frayed Knot wrote:
Fman99 wrote:
Love that song.


Long one of my fave SD tunes and, in this case, the lyrics practically read like a timely press release.


Ditto. That whole album was so damn good. A classic. Brings back great memories.

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 19 2013 08:13 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

metirish wrote:
Amazin, infrared gadgetry on a chopper was able to identify a body in the boat......


Or you could just be like that guy in Watertown who LIFTED THE BLOODY TARP!

metirish
Apr 19 2013 08:15 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 19 2013 08:37 PM

You mean the taaaaarp right?


some set of balls on yon.

Edgy MD
Apr 19 2013 08:23 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Czech ambassador compelled to issue a statement clarifying that the Czech Republic is not Chechnya.

Makes me wanna cry.

MFS62
Apr 19 2013 08:40 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

I'm glad that they caught him wounded, but alive. Maybe they will be able to find out if anyone else is involved. There have been reports of three other suspects found in New Bedford.
A cop was shot last night at MIT. Usually those things end with "The suspect was shot 174 times while trying to escape".

Later

metirish
Apr 19 2013 08:48 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Edgy MD wrote:
Czech ambassador compelled to issue a statement clarifying that the Czech Republic is not Chechnya.

Makes me wanna cry.


it's embarrassing , at an Appelbees across from Fordham University a guy goes outside for a smoke and is set upon by a bunch of thugs that lace him with racial slurs because he must be Arab according to them, the guy is from Bangladesh, they beat the crap out of him.

Ignorant assholes.

Chad Ochoseis
Apr 20 2013 05:03 AM
Re: Boston Marathon

Edgy MD wrote:
Czech ambassador compelled to issue a statement clarifying that the Czech Republic is not Chechnya.

Makes me wanna cry.



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Edgy MD
Apr 20 2013 08:01 AM
Re: Boston Marathon

metirish wrote:
Edgy MD wrote:
Czech ambassador compelled to issue a statement clarifying that the Czech Republic is not Chechnya.

Makes me wanna cry.


it's embarrassing , at an Appelbees across from Fordham University a guy goes outside for a smoke and is set upon by a bunch of thugs that lace him with racial slurs because he must be Arab according to them, the guy is from Bangladesh, they beat the crap out of him.

Ignorant assholes.

There was a shopkeeper in our neighborhood beaten after the 2001 attack. He was Central American, but it happened and was seen as a retaliatory attack. The cherry on the shit cake was a long post on our neighborhood list serve denying that the attack was representative of the "enlightened" neighborhood but rather what you'd "expect in the country or far suburbs."

Bigotry, and then the metabigotry. The bigobigotry.

Peace to all.

Edgy MD
Apr 20 2013 10:28 AM
Re: Boston Marathon

Now that authorities have captured Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the 19-year-old believed to be the second suspect in the bombings at the Boston Marathon on Monday, federal law enforcement officials are invoking the public safety exception regarding his Miranda rights, a senior Justice Department official told ABC News.

The exception, according to the FBI‘s website, “permits law enforcement to engage in a limited and focused unwarned interrogation and allows the government to introduce the statement as direct evidence.”


Fucking hell.

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 20 2013 04:18 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Mets – Willets Point wrote:
Every time I see Martin I cry. He looks like he could be any boy at my son's school.

Also, the young woman who died was the daughter of a woman who works in catering at my place of work.


There's a memorial service for Krystle Campbell on Monday and the business school is doing everything to help including paring down catering and operations to a skeleton staff so that her mother's coworkers can attend. There's a high level of entitlement here so I'm really impressed that they're letting so much of the support staff to go.

Frayed Knot
Apr 20 2013 05:24 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

You see a picture like this one and wonder about the fate of those having no idea who they were standing amongst.
You figure the runner in the foreground is the only one with a good chance of being safe. The others, who knows.
Or maybe that's down the street a bit from where the two already dropped the bags and everyone in that shot is OK.


metirish
Apr 20 2013 08:13 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

There is another image that shows them standing behind the family of the young kid that was slaughtered. It is so maddening to see these, wtf can be going through their minds?,

From the NYT

Department of Homeland Security officials decided in recent months not to grant an application for American citizenship by Tamerlan Tsarnaev, one of two brothers suspected in the Boston Marathon bombings, after a routine background check revealed that he had been interviewed in 2011 by the F.B.I., federal officials said on Saturday.



Not an original thought but it looks like the older one is the key.

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 20 2013 08:49 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 21 2013 07:54 AM

Removing this post since I realize I'm talking out of my ass like those people on Reddit.

Edgy MD
Apr 20 2013 11:28 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

I was thinking maybe that was Campbell in front of Blackhat.

metirish
Apr 21 2013 08:24 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Video of the capture

[youtube:2y5qgpoz]player_embedded&v=bDDSnrPjJj8[/youtube:2y5qgpoz]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... DDSnrPjJj8

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 22 2013 01:15 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

This Miranda waiver thing...

Does it mean that the suspect won't have a right to a lawyer, or does it simply mean that they won't tell him he has the right to remain silent, the right to an attorney, etc.? In other words, if he knows his rights and tries to lawyer up, would they be able to prevent him from doing so?

metirish
Apr 22 2013 01:25 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

I believe it means they can question him for a period of time and use that against him before giving him Miranda....it is a slippery slope.....he is after all an American citizen , where does this bending of the law end?

It becomes moot if he remembers his rights like you suggested(I think), and anyway apparently he shot himself in the throat and can't talk, any may never be able to talk again.

themetfairy
Apr 22 2013 01:27 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

It is indeed a slippery slope, especially because of his citizenship.

He's apparently able to communicate with the police by writing.

Frayed Knot
Apr 22 2013 02:13 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
This Miranda waiver thing...

Does it mean that the suspect won't have a right to a lawyer, or does it simply mean that they won't tell him he has the right to remain silent, the right to an attorney, etc.? In other words, if he knows his rights and tries to lawyer up, would they be able to prevent him from doing so?


He'll have the right to a lawyer but this loophole gives the gov't the ability to get information from him (or at least try) and not worry that such info was obtained prior to consulting a lawyer or even being told that he has the right to one. The idea behind it all is that the immediacy of getting information (presumably to prevent further arms of the conspiracy from acting) trumps all else in this case - and in others for which the loophole was concocted.

It seems to be a method without a point though as it's not like the gov't in this case is going to need his first words (or signs, or written words since it's not known whether he can speak at this point) as a key point in their case against him and the time lapse due to his injuries has pretty much tossed the whole immediacy thing out the window anyway. So, like those calling for the 'enemy combatant' standard to be applied, this seems more like a way to be seen as taking a political stance than anything that's actually going to matter in the end.

cooby
Apr 22 2013 02:26 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Okay I am confused. I have seen pictures of him climbing out of a boat, and I have also seen pictures of him in an ambulance with a self inflicted neck gunshot.

That can't both be right.

Edgy MD
Apr 22 2013 02:57 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

You're going to see a lot of contradictory stuff in the next few weeks.

metirish
Apr 22 2013 04:15 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

He was read his rights today by the judge, including the right to remain silent, the reported said he wasn't sure if that was the first time his rights were read.

metirish
Apr 23 2013 07:22 AM
Re: Boston Marathon

Ted Nugent........I can''t help but read this in Ted's annoying voice


“Imagine if this jihadist punk had basically committed the same crimes 150 years ago. He would have been swinging from an oak tree in Boston Common no longer than 60 days from the date of his arrest,” wrote Mr. Nugent. “That would be justice.”


“But that won’t happen to this guilty voodoo vermin. If he’s ever executed, it will be many years from now after our so-called justice system goes through its strange eternal, time-wasting, court-and-lawyer maneuvers from hell.”


Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/ins ... z2RIBzQgPb
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metsmarathon
Apr 23 2013 08:00 AM
Re: Boston Marathon

hang 'em high, even if they're not guilty!

if this was hte old west, that first saudi they collected would be swinging in the breeze, simply for having been arab and in the crowd.

Edgy MD
Apr 23 2013 08:21 AM
Re: Boston Marathon

The main problem with Nugent is that outlets will give him space, encouraging more wannabes to be like him.

I'd encourage you to kill the link and deny them the hit counts, but, well, free country.

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 23 2013 08:22 AM
Re: Boston Marathon

Adriane Haslet-Daviswho lost a foot in the bombing gives an amazingly calm and optimistic interview. I hope she can keep her spirits up and has the support she needs when dark times come.

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 23 2013 08:23 AM
Re: Boston Marathon

Edgy MD wrote:
The main problem with Nugent is that outlets will give him space, encouraging more wannabes to be like him.

I'd encourage you to kill the link and deny them the hit counts, but, well, free country.



I feel the same way about Westboro Baptist Church. I'd love to see a media blackout on them, because their main desire is to get all the attention they can get.

Mets – Willets Point
Apr 26 2013 08:46 AM
Re: Boston Marathon

The story of Danny who was carjacked by the Tsarnaev brothers. Tamerlan Tsarnaev apparently studied Bond villains' strategy and talked about what he did and his plans to Danny.

Edgy MD
Apr 26 2013 09:56 AM
Re: Boston Marathon

metirish wrote:
I believe it means they can question him for a period of time and use that against him before giving him Miranda....it is a slippery slope.....he is after all an American citizen , where does this bending of the law end?

I think it's more like a step off a cliff.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 26 2013 06:14 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Edgy MD wrote:
metirish wrote:
I believe it means they can question him for a period of time and use that against him before giving him Miranda....it is a slippery slope.....he is after all an American citizen , where does this bending of the law end?

I think it's more like a step off a cliff.


Our feet have been dancing in the air on that note for years.

Edgy MD
Apr 29 2013 08:24 AM
Re: Boston Marathon

Certainly true. I guess that I mean: a step of a cliff with regard to this case.

metirish
May 01 2013 09:41 AM
Re: Boston Marathon

Three people taken in to custody, some confusion going on of course.... students apparently.

metsmarathon
May 01 2013 12:37 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

may have helped after the fact, don't appear to have been involved before hand. for now...

Mets – Willets Point
May 09 2013 11:29 AM
Re: Boston Marathon

A statement from the Richard family

themetfairy
May 09 2013 12:31 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Every time I think about the Richard family it puts me on the verge of tears.

Mets – Willets Point
May 09 2013 01:39 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Me too.

Zvon
May 09 2013 05:08 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Me three.

metirish
May 10 2013 06:19 AM
Re: Boston Marathon

Yeah, amazing family......

Edgy MD
May 22 2013 08:05 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

So, FBI kills an alleged confederate of the bomber brothers while questioning him. How messed up is that?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 22 2013 09:18 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Yeah, that's really fucked up. Makes the Dad "it's open season on Chechnyans" seem sympathetic.

Edgy MD
May 23 2013 06:04 AM
Re: Boston Marathon

It about quadruples the fuel for conspiracy theorists.

"He was about to sign a confession, but then went for a weapon and we had to kill him." Case closed. No need for a messy trial. What do you do with that?

Ashie62
May 25 2013 10:11 AM
Re: Boston Marathon

unfotunately nothing.

Edgy MD
May 25 2013 03:01 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Yeah, but I'm afraid a lot of people won't settle for nothing.

That's how police states start to perpetuate themselves. The government takes care of justice in nice tidy (and illegal) ways. More people grow paranoid and anti-government, and the government has to grow the law enforcement force to keep pace

Mets – Willets Point
May 25 2013 08:21 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

3000 people ran the last mile of the Boston Marathon route today, including some people wounded in the bombings.

There was also a major outdoor music festival and the Museum of Fine Arts (where I spent part of the day with my family) was open for free to the community with activities to support the OneFund. In other words there were a lot of public gatherings with large masses of people today, so if nothing else Bostonians are not cowed.

themetfairy
May 25 2013 08:28 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Neither are runners - there have been moments of silence before races, but participation in races seems to be defiantly strong.

themetfairy
May 28 2013 08:19 AM
Re: Boston Marathon

My friend participated in the marathon but didn't have the opportunity to cross the finish line. Yesterday he received his finisher's medal in the mail, along with a note that says, "You earned every piece of this medal. Hang it with pride."

This gives me goosebumps.

Zvon
May 30 2013 01:45 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

So, FBI kills an alleged confederate of the bomber brothers while questioning him. How messed up is that?


Figured I'd hear/read more about this, but nothing until this today:

[url]http://news.yahoo.com/father-man-fbi-shot-claims-son-executed-143828926.html

Mets – Willets Point
Jun 09 2013 07:17 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Masscelebrates life of Martin Richard. This family has so much strength and hope.

themetfairy
Jun 13 2013 09:00 AM
Re: Boston Marathon

My friend ran the 2013 Boston Marathon. Well, 25.8 miles of it.

This is his footage from race day, up until the point when the police told him that the race was over and that he'd have to leave the course.

I remember being that close to the end of the New York City Marathon (the only marathon I've ever run, and likely ever will run). I cannot imagine what it had to have been like for him to have to leave the course that close to the end. But I'm grateful that he was where he was at that time and that he is safe to run another day.


[youtube:2njf6c3k]gEl-sQi8G94[/youtube:2njf6c3k]

Rockin' Doc
Jun 14 2013 10:26 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Two of my friends ran the Boston Marathon this year. Luckily, both had completed the race and they (along with their families) had left for their hotel rooms by the time of the explosions.

A very sad, tragic, and senseless act of terrorism.

Mets – Willets Point
Aug 16 2013 07:53 AM
Re: Boston Marathon

Yesterday was four months to the day since the attack. And coincidentally I saw Carlos Arredondo (cowboy hat guy) on the bus last night. I got to shy to approach him and say hello, which I regret.

In other news, the last business damaged by the bombs, the Forum Restaurant, had a reopening celebration last night. Arrendondo was returning home from that party when I saw him.

The Richard family also released a statement yesterday. It's good to see Jane smiling.

themetfairy
Aug 16 2013 10:21 AM
Re: Boston Marathon

I'm looking forward to running in Boston with Mrs. Point on Columbus Day. I feel a real need to run there again.

Things will never be completely normal again, but four months later there's an increasing re-establishment of normalcy.

Rockin' Doc
Aug 18 2013 07:03 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Spoke with one of my friends recently during a business meeting. He related his experience from the fateful day of the Boston Marathon terrorist attack.

The blue chair in the photo belonged to my friends wife. Following his completing the race she had left the chair behind for a woman she befriended while watching the race.

This is an article relating to the experience of my friend and his wife: [url]http://www.optometricmanagement.com/articleviewer.aspx?articleID=108340

Please excuse all the professional articles that follow the story regarding the experience of my friend and his wife. Long ago, both Brain and his wife, Sandy worked at my office.

themetfairy
Aug 18 2013 07:36 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Wow - there are no words....

cooby
Aug 18 2013 07:36 PM
Re: Boston Marathon

Yikes