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IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

Fman99 Apr 21 2013 05:30 AM

Gee vs. J-Zimm. Let's hope the Mets bullpen all gets lost on the way to the park today.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2013 09:28 AM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

I agree-- Dillon Gee can blow leads without outside help, thankyouverymuch.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 21 2013 09:53 AM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

This is Dillon Gee's last stand as far as I'm concerned. I know what you're thinking: Laffey and Heffy! But those guys are supposed to suck. Gee allegedly doesn't suck so if he sucks again, he's gonna have to suck on the disabled list or in Vegas or something.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 21 2013 09:59 AM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

It's so much easier to just concede that this is gonna be a lost season. Where the hell are they going with two and a half minor pitchers and an outfield that's worse than Shinjo-Payton-McEwing and not even in the same ballpark as ol' Casey's Thomas, Ashburn and Hickman? This way, for example, I can enjoy Duda's audacious home runs and keen batting eye without getting all worked up over the inevitable Hundleyesque outfielding gaffe with the game on the line (and it's coming, don't kid yourself) that'd ordinarily make you wanna tear your eyeballs out.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 21 2013 10:05 AM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

Well, Laffey was released. Carson up.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2013 10:06 AM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

It's not that we're expecting big things from the team this year, exactly. But guys like Gee were being counted on for back-end rotation work on the next good Met team, right? And I think, bml, you're forgetting exactly how bad Shinjo-Payton-Fucking SuperJoe was... at least Valdespin and Duda have SOME upside.

The Second Spitter Apr 21 2013 10:07 AM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

Time Lords 1) Jordany Valdespin CF 2) Daniel Murphy 2B 3) David Wright 3B 4) Ike Davis 1B 5) John Buck C 6) Lucas Duda LF 7) Mike Baxter RF 8) Ruben Tejada SS 9) Dillon Gee RHP Daleks 1) Denard Span CF 2) Jayson Werth RF 3) Bryce Harper LF 4) Adam LaRoche 1B 5) Ian Desmond SS 6) Anthony Rendon 3B 7) Danny Espinosa 2B 8) Kurt Suzuki C 9) Jordan Zimmermann RHP

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 21 2013 10:08 AM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

I kinda like our crappy outfield.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 21 2013 10:09 AM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: And I think, bml, you're forgetting exactly how bad Shinjo-Payton-Fucking SuperJoe was... at least Valdespin and Duda have SOME upside. You have no idea. How much I hated that bunch. Compounded. By McEwing and Shinjo's inexplicable popularity. Between those two and then that fraud Ordonez, another popular Met, I used to ask myself who the hell are these Mets fans? What the hell are they seeing that I'm not? And all of that taking place in the hideous soul-sapping black drop shadow abominations.

The Second Spitter Apr 21 2013 10:13 AM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

Joe McEwing's boots are in the LaRussa Hall of Fame. That's something right there.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2013 11:18 AM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

I'm guessing that LaRussa has made a lot of acquisitions he can't quite remember or explain.

Edgy MD Apr 21 2013 11:46 AM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

Bucker Decker![/bigpurple]

Zvon Apr 21 2013 12:00 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

Edgy MD wrote: Bucker Decker![/bigpurple] That was a shot! And Gee didn't give it right back!

Edgy MD Apr 21 2013 12:14 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

Gee's certainly yielded some deep shots, but a combination of Duda, Valdespin, and the wind have kept him clean. No wind could stop John Buck.

Zvon Apr 21 2013 12:24 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

Great at bat by Duda there.

Zvon Apr 21 2013 12:27 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

Baxter looked totally over matched yet he still lifts a deep fly to center for the sac. Good job kid.

Zvon Apr 21 2013 01:18 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

Yea! Harpers busy thinkin how kool he thinks he looks and Baxter takes an extra base. Whats a matter Bryce, tired? I yawn in your general direction.

Edgy MD Apr 21 2013 01:43 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

Rice ruining a good thing here.

Gwreck Apr 21 2013 01:45 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

Werth swings 3-0 and grounds into a double play? Convenient.

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2013 01:45 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

OMG Thank you Jayson Werth Still not out of it yet.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 21 2013 01:46 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

Daniel Murphy entered today's game 11th in WAR and 12th in OPS in the NL.

Zvon Apr 21 2013 01:46 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

WOW. I thought Rices goose was cooked. Gets a DP! DATS NICE! JUST THROW STRIKES RICE!

Edgy MD Apr 21 2013 01:46 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

OMG Thank you Jayson Werth No, thank you, Davey Johnson for giving him the rope to hang himself.

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2013 01:48 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

Rice is either had a real good inning or is the luckiest sumbitch in baseball. I'm opting for the latter.

Gwreck Apr 21 2013 01:49 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

I've never played in the major leagues, but when you're: -Down 2 runs -In the late innings -Against a pitcher with control issues -Who just walked the prior batter -And nobody out You don't swing 3-0.

Zvon Apr 21 2013 01:49 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

Just wow. I had already figured theyd at least tie it. Jeeze, couldn't you have done that a little easier Scott? I think I riced my pants.

Edgy MD Apr 21 2013 01:49 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

What a strange inning. Lucky, yes, but it takes more than luck to whiff Bryce Harper. Usually, anyhow.

Zvon Apr 21 2013 01:51 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

Ike, shhhhhhhh

Edgy MD Apr 21 2013 02:00 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

Bobby Pee. What's the sound of 40,000 peeps eating their hats? Hmghafmhfhfhfmgh.

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2013 02:04 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

Get your first ML hit elsewhere kid. Not here, not today.

Edgy MD Apr 21 2013 02:05 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

Man, that was pretty shaky-feeling for a four-hit shutout.

Zvon Apr 21 2013 02:05 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

YEEEHAAA!

Gwreck Apr 21 2013 02:06 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

Books! Nice series win.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2013 02:34 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

A 20% better bullpen, and it would have been a nice series sweep... alas. It's always nice when someone doesn't have a cray-cray, mindblowing, Sportscenter-leading major-league debut against us. Y'know, for a change. Also, an unexpectedly... well... okay start for Gee. (Perhaps JCL can find it in his heart to make Gee ThisYear'sDickey, magical-invective-wise?) One thing... play the shift, don't play the shift... but if you're going to do it, don't your pitcher on-board, busting the guy middle-in and refraining from, say, backdoor breaking stuff that begs to be poked into left field?

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2013 03:08 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

Gwreck wrote: Nice series win. Yup! Only won four all season against these chumps last year so we're already half way there. Also considering that the pitching match-ups seemed against us in all three games (even if only by prior reputation in Game 1) lots o' folks would have considered one win a moral victory. Gee not shitting the bed bodes well for this rotation going forward (assuming it's not just a one-time thing).

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2013 03:13 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

Another thing: Gee* was helped out by the home plate umpire, whose strike zone seemed to drift quite a bit from side to side. Who was the ump? *Hawkins, too, on the outside-corner Desmond K.

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2013 03:39 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

I agree that we got a couple of calls for us today* (both pitching and batting - he seemed to have missed one or two of Zimmermannnn's curves) and, yeah, in a tight game, little things like that can make a difference. But I'm still not going to spit on a shut-out of a good hitting team or Gee's first good game since last July. The shitty spring and bad start to this year coming off the surgery shouldn't make us toss out the fact that he was on a pretty good roll prior to the 2012 ASB. And while one decent game doesn't mean he's BACK!!!, him being merely decent means having 2.5 good starters instead of 2 plus three days of praying. Add in the hopeful swap of Marcum for Laffey and things get at least a bit less dire than they were. * HP ump wasn't perfect the other way either

Edgy MD Apr 21 2013 05:17 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: (Perhaps JCL can find it in his heart to make Gee ThisYear'sDickey, magical-invective-wise?) I think he's using all his magic in douche-baiting Harvey to his 4-0 record.

metsmarathon Apr 22 2013 10:08 AM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

so the play log for the john buck throwing out of denard span is curious to me. it was a pitch in the dirt by gee. span takes off for second. buck throws him out by a wide margin. but it doesn't really make the box score. it wasn't credited as a caught stealing. the pitch in the dirt wasn't called a wild pitch or a passed ball. it's just, all of a sudden, there's one less baserunner. i assume buck at least got an assist out of the deal...?

Edgy MD Apr 22 2013 10:31 AM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

I hate losing Sunday flubber games.

Frayed Knot Apr 22 2013 10:41 AM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

metsmarathon wrote: so the play log for the john buck throwing out of denard span is curious to me. it was a pitch in the dirt by gee. span takes off for second. buck throws him out by a wide margin. but it doesn't really make the box score. it wasn't credited as a caught stealing. the pitch in the dirt wasn't called a wild pitch or a passed ball. it's just, all of a sudden, there's one less baserunner. i assume buck at least got an assist out of the deal...? Yeah that's kind of weird. I never really thought of it before but I guess the fact that Span didn't take off until after the pitch was made means it doesn't get tagged as a steal attempt but rather as an "out trying to advance" as if he was trying to stretch a single or some other type of daring base-running.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 22 2013 11:12 AM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

And yes, Buck would have to get the assist on that play, no matter how it was (or wasn't) scored.

Ceetar Apr 22 2013 09:17 PM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

Frayed Knot wrote: metsmarathon wrote: so the play log for the john buck throwing out of denard span is curious to me. it was a pitch in the dirt by gee. span takes off for second. buck throws him out by a wide margin. but it doesn't really make the box score. it wasn't credited as a caught stealing. the pitch in the dirt wasn't called a wild pitch or a passed ball. it's just, all of a sudden, there's one less baserunner. i assume buck at least got an assist out of the deal...? Yeah that's kind of weird. I never really thought of it before but I guess the fact that Span didn't take off until after the pitch was made means it doesn't get tagged as a steal attempt but rather as an "out trying to advance" as if he was trying to stretch a single or some other type of daring base-running. That's how Gary described it. But that doesn't really make sense to me. It's not like there's a time frame you can steal bases, and the ball wasn't put in play.. I guess if he was safe they would've awarded him the base on the WP not a SB though, although I'd disagree with that as well, since the ball never actually got past the catcher.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 23 2013 11:40 AM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: ... at least Valdespin and Duda have SOME upside. Probably. But Duda has no future with the Mets. Or any other National League team, I'd guess. He's an atrocious train-wreck of a defensive outfielder, and in the long run, is likely to give back everything he accomplishes on offense. Unless he can continue to hit at his current MVP caliber pace all season long. And it's a shame because Duda, an historically slow starter, has demonstrated, at every professional level, that he can absolutely demolish opposing pitchers. I'm not entirely surprised at the season he's having. He's a fun player to watch, easy to root for, and one of the most intriguing Mets to come along in a while. I'm pulling for him, but I have my doubts.

Swan Swan H Apr 23 2013 11:51 AM Re: IGT 4/21 Mets vs Nats Flubber Game

batmagadanleadoff wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: ... at least Valdespin and Duda have SOME upside. Probably. But Duda has no future with the Mets. Or any other National League team, I'd guess. He's an atrocious train-wreck of a defensive outfielder, and in the long run, is likely to give back everything he accomplishes on offense. Unless he can continue to hit at his current MVP caliber pace all season long. And it's a shame because Duda, an historically slow starter, has demonstrated, at every professional level, that he can absolutely demolish opposing pitchers. I'm not entirely surprised at the season he's having. He's a fun player to watch, easy to root for, and one of the most intriguing Mets to come along in a while. I'm pulling for him, but I have my doubts. I'm not very good at reading the defensive stats on Baseball Reference, but based on about 1/4 of a season at 1B Duda's defensive stats seem to be about neutral when playing there. That could either be a selling point if he is traded, or a fallback if Ike is moved.