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IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show!
batmagadanleadoff Apr 25 2013 02:47 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 25 2013 08:11 AM |
Guest Host Harvey Korman is on vacation today,
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Swan Swan H Apr 25 2013 07:31 AM Re: IGT 4/25/10 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
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G-Fafif Apr 25 2013 07:54 AM Re: IGT 4/25/10 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Jordany Valdespin and John Buck are on vacation today, too. Lucas Duda will be cleaning up.
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batmagadanleadoff Apr 25 2013 08:25 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 25 2013 08:59 AM |
"Harvelous is such a tough act to
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batmagadanleadoff Apr 25 2013 08:38 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
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batmagadanleadoff Apr 25 2013 09:05 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
"Is it too early to talk about Harvelous starting this year's All Star Game?"
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TransMonk Apr 25 2013 09:10 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Duda moved to clean-up after Collins said earlier in the week that he didn't want to mess with a guy going so well. Good move?
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Ceetar Apr 25 2013 09:11 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
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glad he waited until he cooled off a little. wouldn't want to mess things up.
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batmagadanleadoff Apr 25 2013 09:14 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
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Edgy MD Apr 25 2013 09:15 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
It's Backfire City.
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Benjamin Grimm Apr 25 2013 09:26 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Everyone needs to stop fostering the illusion that the position in the lineup matters. When it's your turn to bat, step up to the plate and do your job. What matters is who the pitcher is, what the score is, what runners are on base, not the position in the batting order.
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Ceetar Apr 25 2013 09:28 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
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it doesn't matter much..but it does matter. The higher OBP guys you have higher up, the more AB you get in the game. The more AB you get in a game, the more likely you are to win. Duda has been near tops in OBP this season and extends the lineup the more AB he gets.
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Benjamin Grimm Apr 25 2013 09:29 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Right. But that shouldn't affect the player at all.
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Mets – Willets Point Apr 25 2013 09:29 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
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Pretty much. Especially after the first inning when anyone can end up batting leadoff or cleanup. The main importance of the lineup is to have the best hitters hit earlier in the lineup to allow the opportunity for more at bats.
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Edgy MD Apr 25 2013 09:34 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Everything affects a player, though: the number of people in the stands, whether his girlfriend is going at it with his mother online, the abuse or support of the fans, whether he's hitting well or slumping, or the high or low expectations of a team (which may or may not be symbolized by the player's position in the batting order).
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batmagadanleadoff Apr 25 2013 09:35 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
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This. It drove me up the wall a few years ago when Manuel wanted to bat Reyes second and Reyes said he couldn't do that. Same crap with self-interested relief pitchers who claim they have to pitch the ninth inning to be effective.
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The Second Spitter Apr 25 2013 09:41 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
What a shame the Mets don't have anybody named Ken, Zangrief, M.Bison or Akuma in their lineup.
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Ceetar Apr 25 2013 09:42 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
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Third. I understand players getting attached to the idea of themselves as a leadoff hitter, or a closer. The ownership of it. I think Manuel gave him like a week in the 3rd spot before flip-flopping back.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 25 2013 09:43 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Bothers me that Terry gives life to the notion that the batting order matters by describing it in terms of his player's comfort with their role.
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Benjamin Grimm Apr 25 2013 09:45 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Yes, that was pretty much my point. Instead he should be saying, "Lucas, it doesn't matter if you bat fourth or sixth or whatever. Just step up to the plate and do what you do best."
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TransMonk Apr 25 2013 09:49 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
I think it was specifically that he didn't want Duda thinking he had to hit home runs every time just because he is in the clean-up spot...but rather for him to keep on keeping on as he has.
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Ashie62 Apr 25 2013 09:59 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
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Terry is a trained psychologist.... How did we feel as kids where we hit in little league or higher level? It might stoke some...
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Benjamin Grimm Apr 25 2013 11:16 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Dodgers have already scored in the top of the first.
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Fman99 Apr 25 2013 11:17 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Listening at work via XM. Howie's off today, apparently, it's Josh and some dingus with the call. Going to give Charley Steiner and the LA broadcast team a listen for a change.
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Zvon Apr 25 2013 11:18 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
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It mattered a hell of a lot when I was a kid. It was very much a status symbol kinda thing. Just as important was what number you were picked when choosing sides. One summer I went from being the last pick to being the first and that really boosted my kahnfidence. First blood drawn. Kemp again.
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Fman99 Apr 25 2013 11:20 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
I'm ready to launch Hefner from a cannon like the way they used to make puffed rice cereal.
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Zvon Apr 25 2013 11:23 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
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googles amazin
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metirish Apr 25 2013 11:41 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Quite day at work so I am able to watch the game in the office, Ike is pure shite.
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Ceetar Apr 25 2013 11:47 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
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I wonder if Howie's in Philadelphia.
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Zvon Apr 25 2013 11:54 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Ramon Hernandez with a Bruce Pearson moment.
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Frayed Knot Apr 25 2013 11:58 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
My early impressions of Ryu is that there are a couple things he doesn't miss often
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Benjamin Grimm Apr 25 2013 11:59 AM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Hefner's being economical, anyway. One out in the fourth and he's only thrown 46 pitches.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 25 2013 12:03 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
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Yeah, Howie's with the Islanders. The dingus is Ed "The Enuch" Coleman. He and Josh Lewin are in agreement the Mets have not sacrificed well this year due to how few they've accomplished. AFAICR, the Hef screwup there was the the 1st time a sac bunt had failed, they've just been scoring enough to not need em (and the couple they got last night were done well).
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Zvon Apr 25 2013 12:07 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Ugh. Bryd lays an egg. Make that two.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 25 2013 12:12 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
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"There's something... Wellsian about him, isn't there?" - A sly Gary Cohen Also, Ronnie was trying to make some sort of point about reliance on reports and tendencies against pitchers who haven't been around much-- vaguely I Trust My Eyeballs vs. Newfangled Ways-- and said something to the effect of "You find yourself more vulnerable to... to... you don't have video, or a stat profile to review, and you have to see the guy... guys like Ryu, or a Fernando... these are guys you have to see." Because, you know, it makes more sense to rely on eyeball reports with a guy you've never seen before. Ronnie's work ethic may have gotten him to Yale, but frankly, he's nowhere near as smart as Keith.
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Ceetar Apr 25 2013 12:19 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
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I dunno, I feel like Ron's pretty savvy about some of this stuff. There are definitely situations where it pays to take the scouting reports with a grain of salt, and small sample size type stuff might just be one of them. Avoids getting tripped up by false positives or educated guesses that may have been noise. I know he said something similar in the playoffs that I thought was interesting. Was referencing the shift against Votto, and questioned it since Votto had obviously been hampered by knee problems in the second half, and maybe his spray chart for his career didn't reflect his current tendencies.
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metirish Apr 25 2013 12:24 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
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Um, I took that as Gary comparing rotundness , but apparently not our Ron who just came out with "gosh great call on Wells, Ryo doesn't throw as many fastballs but like Wells comes right after the hitters". Ok
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Ashie62 Apr 25 2013 12:34 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
We need hits...Hefner is giving us a gift...
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 25 2013 12:35 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Hefner's kind of a Deep Flyball Pitcher, isn't he?
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 25 2013 12:38 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Yup.
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Zvon Apr 25 2013 12:41 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 25 2013 12:41 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
here we go, 2 on for Captain Sugar
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 25 2013 12:42 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 25 2013 12:43 PM |
Plus, third time through. We do have a little bit of a kimchee stew going here.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 25 2013 12:43 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Tejada to 3rd on ball in dirt.
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Zvon Apr 25 2013 12:43 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
OO, takin third there was big. Gj T-man.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 25 2013 12:43 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS, IRISH
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 25 2013 12:45 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Sac fly, tied
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 25 2013 12:48 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Gary and Ron discussing the Duda batting-order thing.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 25 2013 12:49 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Those watching with your ears: Duda was not incorrect on "strike three," but the pitch was close on the outside corner.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 25 2013 12:50 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Ed & Josh lecturing him on his alleged passiveness too.
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Ceetar Apr 25 2013 12:51 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
I'm growing a little tired of the "Duda is TOO patient" bit that Keith usually goes off on and Josh and Eddie are doing now.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 25 2013 12:51 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Which-- just sayin'-- would have scored a guy who had advanced to second on an earlier wild pitch.
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Zvon Apr 25 2013 12:52 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Keep it goin. Keep it goin.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 25 2013 12:53 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Radio Guys made no mention of Muffy failing to move up on the WP.
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TransMonk Apr 25 2013 12:54 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Ike Davis: Rally Killer
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 25 2013 12:55 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
He's got that oh-shit-it's-my-turn-again puss every time up; it looks like he has no confidence at the plate. They should move him up a little in the lineup.
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metirish Apr 25 2013 12:55 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Ron " the thing about Ike is what does he expect to get when he reaches that count, he's going to get worked middle of the plate away"
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Ceetar Apr 25 2013 12:55 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
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They focused on the tying run but didn't mention the pitch much. Was it really wild and clear or was it just aggressive from Tejada?
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metirish Apr 25 2013 12:56 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Not sure why Ron and Gary so dislike the translator being allowed to go to the mound.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 25 2013 12:57 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Byrd catches Kemp tagging for DP.
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Ceetar Apr 25 2013 12:58 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
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Well, there are few 'good' options when you're behind in the count. Josh seems to think he should've swung at the maybe not a strike two, but if he swung aggressively at everything and didn't get a hit, we'd kill him for that too. It's befuddling with Ike. It's easy to try to point at things like blaming how far away from the plate he's standing and/or not covering the outside corner, but he was pretty damn good for the last half of the year last year, and I doubt it's that simple. oooh, nice assist by Byrd.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 25 2013 12:58 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
The Ryu pitch in the dirt didn't bounce into the dugout, but it got under and away, and Ramon Hernandez is catching and... well... there was enough time for, say, an alert John Buck to move up.
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Zvon Apr 25 2013 01:03 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
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It was close to Hernandez and he got to it quickly and I wasn't so sure Tejeda was gonna make it. Rubin didn't hesitate tho, got a good jump. I was surprised the catcher didn't even throw it to 3rd, and that's why Muff was stuck.
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Edgy MD Apr 25 2013 01:04 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Recker needs to get the Nickeas out of his stat line.
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metirish Apr 25 2013 01:52 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Dodgers scored two while we had an outage at the forum....we did have an outage right?
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 25 2013 01:54 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
I think the Mets caused the outage.
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Zvon Apr 25 2013 01:54 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
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We did and I'm gonna have to blame the board for that Dodger rally.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 25 2013 01:58 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
kaBlammmm?
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Edgy MD Apr 25 2013 01:58 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Board back. Ike back.
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Zvon Apr 25 2013 01:59 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
See?! Board matters.
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seawolf17 Apr 25 2013 02:01 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
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Ike Davis: Rally Starter
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Zvon Apr 25 2013 02:04 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Grrrrr. Just foul.
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themetfairy Apr 25 2013 02:09 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Boo Hiss :(
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Zvon Apr 25 2013 02:10 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
UGH. Well, even this can't ruin my buzz from last night. GJ by Hef, better than I expected.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 25 2013 02:32 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
This is just a terrible score, Edward.
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Edgy MD Apr 25 2013 03:00 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
Best takeaway is the notion that Hef might have more to offer than we expected.
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Ashie62 Apr 25 2013 03:04 PM Re: IGT 4/25/13 LA@NYM: It's the Harvelous Harv Show! |
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