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batmagadanleadoff Apr 30 2013 07:24 AM

From Grantland's Bake Shop Mailbag: The prospect of Matt Harvey's bright future combined with young talent like Zack Wheeler and Travis d'Arnaud seems too good to be true, so when will Harvey have his serious injury and subsequent decline in production? Does it happen this season and leave Mets' fans wondering about what could have been or is it after we give him a huge contract in a few years, basically throwing the money down the drain? Not sure which one I would rather have, but I just know that it's happening. — Kirk M. I'm not sure what was more depressing about this e-mail: that I found myself nodding grimly while reading it, or that Kirk M.'s school e-mail address made it apparent that he was, by my math, still in diapers the year the Mets last made the World Series. Anyway, this is the type of question that calls for some Expert Input, so I polled a few of my favorite Mets enthusiasts. Their answers may surprise you. Jason Fry, among many other things one of the men behind the blog Faith and Fear in Flushing, opted to stick with the "faith" part of the equation: Kirk, man, you're way too young to be mainlining despair. It'll be all that's left to you by your forties, so don't start now. OK, yeah, the biggest danger to pitchers' health is pitching, and the Mets have operated under a little black cloud since the last day of 2007. But better days are ahead, I promise. And in the meantime, there will be sunshine and baseball talk and cold beer. (Though not for you just yet.) So enjoy today — particularly if Matt Harvey's on the hill. Adam Mirchin, the person whose Twitter account I probably favorite most frequently (and even though I'm pretty slutty with my Twitter favoriting, that really means something), got a little riled up by the question: As anyone familiar with my Twitter feed knows, I steadfastly maintain that Mets fans are more embarrassing than the Mets organization. It basically goes like this: any fan base that has experienced a semblance of prolonged heartache immediately tries to corner the market on "being so freakin' unlucky and/or beaten down, man." Somehow, it's worse in New York. These are the fans that are always whining about "what is the plan?" as if it's actually reasonable to expect the front office to take to the airwaves with 75 detailed bullet points outlining, step-by-step, the exact blueprint … WHERE IS WHEELER? HE'S READY! SURE, I CAN'T PICK HIM OUT OF A POLICE LINEUP, BUT I KNOW: HE'S READY FOR NEW YORK. SANDY ALDERSON IS SUCH AN IDIOT … (His e-mail went on like that for another four or five paragraphs, in which he somehow managed to touch on both Darrelle Revis and the start times for World Series games, and quite frankly I'm a little worried he might be wandering around Manhattan in a catcher's mask and fugue state right now.) David Roth of the Classical had a similar take: New Yorkers have a tendency to exaggerate the magnitude and significance of their experience, which along with totally justified envy of our excellent delicatessens is why so many people dislike us. All true. Still, my own reaction to the question probably syncs up most closely with Sports on Earth's Emma Span: First things first: It's never what you expect. Something terrible will happen, yes, but never the terrible thing you are prepared for. You don't get mugged when you're worried about getting mugged; that's when you get hit by a car. I'm embroidering that last line on a pillow. An orange-and-blue pillow, of course. Let's go Mets! http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/920 ... op-mailbag

Ceetar Apr 30 2013 07:30 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

You don't get mugged when you're worried about getting mugged; that's when you get hit by a car. words to live by.

Vic Sage Apr 30 2013 08:06 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

These are the fans that are always whining about "what is the plan?" Ambler!

Edgy MD Apr 30 2013 08:14 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Ambler is no longer a dude, but the voice of a movement. Is this going to be the "Matt Harvey Deserves His Own Thread" thread?

metirish Apr 30 2013 08:15 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

It might well be true that Mets fans are embarrassing, the whining about the whining Mets fans is annoying too.

Ceetar Apr 30 2013 08:16 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

metirish wrote: It might well be true that Mets fans are embarrassing, the whining about the whining Mets fans is annoying too. That's why I stick to whining about the people whining about the Mets fans whining. it's recursive enough to just be confusing.

Edgy MD Apr 30 2013 08:26 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

I don't know. Objecting to folks who act like entitled children, ruin the ballpark experience, and bring disrepute by association upon us all is OK by me, compared to complaining about not winning enough. Nobody wins enough. (Well, maybe the Marlins. Actually, they win too much.)

batmagadanleadoff Apr 30 2013 08:31 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Edgy MD wrote: Is this going to be the "Matt Harvey Deserves His Own Thread" thread?

Vic Sage Apr 30 2013 08:34 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

With regard to that letter, and the responses to it: On one hand, i think they're right that fans tend to overstate their own suffering. They romanticize it, so it becomes a badge of honor. If a team is not just bad, but historically bad, then to be a fan of said team shows the depth of your character. Now, Met suffering cannot be the equal of Cubs, Red Sox, or even Cleveland, in that department. There are franchises without ANY championships to their credit. There are franchises which are grotesquely under-supported by its own fanbase even when they're successful. There have been teams that have suffered actual tragedies. The Mets are none of these things. They've either won or been to a NLCS or WS every decade of their existence (the current decade excepted, but so far incomplete). They've made a lot of bad trades, but some good ones. Have their been devastating injuries? sure. every team has them. but not disproportionately. What we do have is our early history. We started so bad, so HISTORICALLY bad, that our badness has still not been equaled. And after 7 years of that badness, we won a WS, thus creating the "miracle mets". But that's a history of triumph over adversity, not awfulness. Yeah, i'm as guilty of the "oh woe is me, i'm a met fan" shtick, but i'm aware that it's shtick. I wouldn't switch places with a Cleveland Indians fan for all the combustible sludge in the Cuyahoga River. I think, aside from the 120 losses in 1962 and a few bad trades and injuries, the team suffers mostly from being in the same city as the NY "27 rings" Yankees. If your yardstick is the winningest franchise in all of sports, of course you're going to look bad. We're like the hot chick's younger sister, stuck with glasses and braces. She's actually kind of cute, and when she gets the braces off and switches to contacts, she's pretty hot, too, but nobody notices and folks still think of her as hot girl's dorky sister. But dorky girls need love too, and as i was told by an upperclassman in college, ugly girls give the best blow jobs.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 30 2013 08:37 AM Re: Everything's Harvey Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 30 2013 08:40 AM

Edgy MD wrote: Is this going to be the "Matt Harvey Deserves His Own Thread" thread? Matt Harvey leads* all major leaguers, including position players, in WAR. * Tied with Clay Buchholz

Edgy MD Apr 30 2013 08:38 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

I'll take that as a yes.

TransMonk Apr 30 2013 09:06 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

http://espn.go.com/mlb/features/cyyoung

Edgy MD Apr 30 2013 09:28 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Vic Sage wrote: Yeah, i'm as guilty of the "oh woe is me, i'm a met fan" shtick, but i'm aware that it's shtick. I wouldn't switch places with a Cleveland Indians fan for all the combustible sludge in the Cuyahoga River. But what an offer!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 30 2013 11:33 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

This thread is less "Harvey Deserves His Own Thread" than it is "Pithy Ways To Describe How Much Met Fans Suck/Being A Met Fan Sucks, w/Zing."

metsmarathon Apr 30 2013 12:15 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: "Pithy Ways To Describe How Much Met Fans Suck" that's, like, our motto around here, isn't it?

batmagadanleadoff Apr 30 2013 01:30 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

Continuing the unintended trend of this thread, where we (sorta) shit on all things Mets through the prism of Matt Harvey: Why Matt Harvey Is Not Dwight Gooden By TIM MARCHMAN There are times when it seems like Matt Harvey would be even better than he is if he were less of a pitcher and more of a thrower. The man can reel off 98 mile-per-hour fastballs at the letters at will when he's in a tight spot, and so watching him nick corners and change speeds is like watching Carmelo Anthony pass and set picks: not what you're paying for and totally beside the point. Harvey is a strikeout artist, already one of the best ever when going by the raw numbers. Among all starting pitchers who have pitched at least as many innings as he has, only three have bettered his 10.4 strikeouts per nine innings, and just four did so through age 24. Since K-rate is usually considered the single best predictor of how well a pitcher will age, from this angle the inevitable comparisons to past Mets greats like Dwight Gooden, Nolan Ryan and Tom Seaver make sense. What this ignores, though, is that Harvey is pitching at a time when strikeouts mean less than they ever have. He is obviously brilliant, but the expectations may already be unfair. Over the last two years, strikeouts are at a historic high, reaching 7.7 this year, a rather abrupt rise of 10% above what they were in 2009. There are a lot of explanations for why this has happened—sabermetric theory negating the stigma of the strikeout, new batting philosophies that prize sitting on a given pitch, the increased use of short relievers—but the result is that whiffs have doubled since the heyday of Stan Musial and Jackie Robinson. The increase isn't unprecedented—the major league K-rate rose by around 33% between 1951 and 1960—but it is disorienting. For most of the time I've been watching baseball, a strikeout rate of 6.9 would have indicated a reasonably hard-throwing starter. Over the last two years it's the mark hit by Paul Maholm, a classic junkballer. What this means is that Harvey's historic strikeout numbers are, in all, a bit less historic than they seem. His K-rate of 10.0 per game is, on its own, the sixth-best such mark by a 24-year-old in major-league history. If you divide individual rate by league rate, though, it comes out that he's striking out a third more hitters than average—impressive, but no better than what Brett Myers did with the Philadelphia Phillies in 2005, and nothing close to what Gooden did at 19, when his K-rate was more than twice as high as the league's. This is no kind of bad thing. Along with Myers, Harvey's strikeout rate at his age puts him in the company of Steve Carlton, Roger Clemens and Pedro Martinez, who all went on to have pretty good careers. But in context, he isn't quite the peerless machine he may seem. The paradox is that this may mean he has room to grow. Much of Harvey's success so far has been driven by an absurd and unsustainably low batting average on balls in play of .230. It's just in the nature of things that this is going to rise and consequently lead to speculation about whether the league is figuring him out and so on. His strikeout rate, though, could also rise. Leaving aside what he's done statistically, he's a classic power pitcher, with that high, riding fastball and a set of breaking pitches that dive down and in just under the hands. There's no obvious reason why Harvey, with a little more experience, shouldn't strike out as many batters relative to the league as Tim Lincecum did in 2008 or Mark Prior did in 2005. Some of what he loses as hitters do better when they make contact, then, could be offset by him simply allowing even fewer of them to do so. This would leave him an even more effective pitcher than he already is—not necessarily the peer of a young Gooden or Seaver, but quite comparable to David Cone, the last pitcher who made this kind of impact on his first run as a Mets starter, and one whose development in his mid-20s tracked this exact pattern. Cone isn't necessarily the first name that comes to mind when dreaming on a young pitcher, but he was a Cy Young Award winner and five-time All-Star who at various times led the league in wins, strikeouts and innings, played for five World Series champions and had a better claim to being a Hall of Famer than he ever got credit for. He was a thrower who became the pitcher of all pitchers. If Harvey has half his career, he'll have done incredibly well. Whatever happens, it will be worth the watching. A version of this article appeared April 29, 2013, on page A25 in the U.S. edition of The Wall Street Journal, with the headline: Why Matt Harvey Is Not Dwight Gooden. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... Collection

Benjamin Grimm Apr 30 2013 01:35 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

There are a number of reasons to hope that Matt Harvey is not Dwight Gooden.

Zvon Apr 30 2013 02:46 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

Vic Sage wrote: What we do have is our early history. We started so bad, so HISTORICALLY bad, that our badness has still not been equaled. And after 7 years of that badness, we won a WS, thus creating the "miracle mets". But that's a history of triumph over adversity, not awfulness. This is a great observation and has a lot to do with me becoming a Met fan. And when I am really down on the current state of affairs with the Mets, I just think about some of the rich history we have in such a relatively short time. And I'm not just talking about winning. People jump on the bandwagon when a team wins and then go back into the woodworks when things go bad. I've been riding this wagon come hell or high water. We all have. Anyone who remains a Met fan thru these lean and mismanaged years has every right to whine if that's the way they choose to express themselves. Whats this thread about again? Oh, Harvey. Yea, he's something else, huh?

Frayed Knot Apr 30 2013 02:49 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

The main difference between his start and Gooden's is the age. That said, and as Grimm notes, I don't want him to be Dwight Gooden. So far I'm liking him as Matt Harvey quite nicely and, as Curt Schilling and others have pondered, is there one current pitcher you'd trade him for straight up right now?

batmagadanleadoff May 01 2013 08:16 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Off-day Harvey: Harvelous picks up a tenth of a bbRef WAR point on an off day, and now leads all major leaguers in the category, even Clay Bucholz. http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagu ... ders.shtml

TransMonk May 01 2013 08:20 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Off-day Harvey: Harvelous picks up a tenth of a bbRef WAR point on an off day, and now leads all major leaguers in the category, even Clay Bucholz. http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagu ... ders.shtml I'm almost as impressed by our old friend Car-Go sitting there at #2. Dang.

batmagadanleadoff May 01 2013 08:27 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

TransMonk wrote: Off-day Harvey: Harvelous picks up a tenth of a bbRef WAR point on an off day, and now leads all major leaguers in the category, even Clay Bucholz. http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagu ... ders.shtml I'm almost as impressed by our old friend Car-Go sitting there at #2. Dang. It's his D. (0.8 dWAR)

Edgy MD May 01 2013 09:20 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

His .616 slugging percentage is nice too.

batmagadanleadoff May 02 2013 09:14 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Today in the world of Harvelous Harv Harvey, our hero, the 15th seed, squares off against San Francisco 49er quarterback prodigy Colin Kaepernick, the #2 seed, in the Battle of the Future Stars. Future?, asks I. From bloggers in their pajamas in their momma's basements: "Futures" Stars: Bracket Competition Round 1: #2 Colin Kapernick v #15 Matt Harvey VOTE Our next matchup in the "future starts [sic] bracket competition" is between the 2nd seed Colin Kaepernick, and the 15 seed Matt Harvey. This is an interesting matchup because of the hype of Matt Harvey thus far in the season and because Colin Kaepernick almost hoisted up the Lombardi trophy in his first season as a starter. Reason to pick Colin Kaepernick (2 seed): Kapernick [sic] led the San Francisco 49ers to the superbowl [siccer] in his first year as a starter. In 2012, Kaepernick threw for over 1,800 yards, 10 touchdowns, and had a QBR of 76.8. He was drafted by the 49ers, out of the University of Nevada, in the second round of the 2011 draft. He sat his first year behind Alex Smith, but in year two after Smith got injured, Kaepernick came in and took over the team. His first start as an NFL quarterback came on monday night football against the Chicago Bears. kapernick threw for 243 yards, two touchdowns, and had a QBR of 97.5. In the superbowl, kaepernick was reciliant [siccest] when his team faced a 22 point deficit after a kickoff return for a touchdown to start the second half. Kaepernick has a bright future on a team that will be good for years. Reasons to pick Matt Harvey (15 seed): Matt Harvey is very new to the national stage. This year he has deifintely made a name for himself, with major sports analysists saying he and Steven Strasburg will be fighting for the games next big pitcher. Harvey has the size of a star athlete, standing at 6' 4", 225 Lbs. So far this year, Harvey is 4-0 with a 1.56 ERA, 46 strikeouts, and a 0.82 WHIP over 6 starts. He has decent speed on his fastball but a killer slider that keeps batters guessing. http://thecolumn.sportsblog.com/post/41 ... round.html

Valadius May 02 2013 09:32 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Ceetar May 02 2013 02:34 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

That's NL Pitcher of the Month to you.

batmagadanleadoff May 08 2013 09:00 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Matt Harvey loses perfect game but accomplishes even rarer feat By Cliff Corcoran Matt Harvey’s emergence as one of the best pitchers in baseball took another leap forward Tuesday night. He flirted with a perfect game for six and two-thirds innings, retiring the first 20 White Sox batters he faced before Alex Rios beat out an infield single to short with two outs in the seventh. Rios, whose hit was a soft-hopper to just the right spot and who was safe by less than a step, was the only baserunner Harvey allowed in the entire game, which saw him complete nine innings and strike out 12. Harvey didn’t pick up the win because the Mets didn’t score until the bottom of the tenth, but the performance dropped his ERA after seven starts to 1.28, his WHIP to 0.69. He also lowered his career marks after 17 major league starts to a 2.07 ERA and 0.94 WHIP. What’s more, by game score, it was the best-pitched game of the season, besting Yu Darvish’s perfect-game bid by one point, and the best-pitched game by a Met since David Cone faced what was essentially a spring training lineup on the final day of the 1991 season and struck out 19 Phillies. As much as Johan Santana’s no-hitter meant to Mets fans last year, this was a far better performance (Rios was as close to out as Carlos Beltran’s ball in the Santana game was to foul), and is all the more impressive for coming so early in Harvey’s career. To that last point, since 1916, which is as far back as we have complete box score data, just three pitchers have posted a game score higher than the 97 Harvey registered Tuesday night in an outing of nine or fewer innings within their first 20 major league appearances. The best of those games was Kerry Wood’s 20-strikeout game in 1998, which came in his fifth major league start and resulted in a game score of 105. One of the other two also came in 1998. That was Kevin Millwood’s 15th major league appearance and 11th start, in which he bettered Harvey’s Tuesday-night line by one strikeout (9 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 13 K) for a game score of 96. The third was Don Wilson’s first no-hitter, which came in the 15th major league appearance (and 12th start) by the Astros righty in June 1967. Wilson threw a second no-no in May 1969. Wilson wasn’t the only pitcher to throw a no-hitter so early in his career. It’s been done 13 times since 1916, most recently by Clay Buchholz, who threw a no-no in his second career start in 2007, tying a record set by the White Sox’s Wilson Alvarez in 1991. What’s more, the White Sox’s Charlie Robertson threw a perfect game in his fifth career appearance in 1922. However, none of those games, save for Wilson’s, resulted in a higher game score than Harvey’s on Tuesday night. Incidentally, the best game score in an outing of any length by a pitcher in his first 20 career appearances and the best game score in Mets history are one and the same, and I guarantee you’ll never guess the pitcher … It was lefty Rob Gardner*, who, in his fifth career appearance and fourth start, threw 15 scoreless innings in the second game of a double-header on the penultimate day of the 1965 season, a game that was called after 18 scoreless frames and in which Gardner’s 112 game score was the second-best in the game. Phillies starter Chris Short also threw 15 scoreless innings and struck out 18 Mets along the way for a 114 game score. As if that weren’t enough, the Mets, who lost the first game of that double-header, played another double-header the next day, the second game of that twin-set went 13 innings, and the Mets lost both games to finish the year at 112 losses. Mets fans can laugh about those teams now, not least of all because they have Matt Harvey. *Actually, Gardner is one of three pitchers to post a 112 game score in his first 20 major league appearances, but he was by far the most recent. The others were both Tigers: Les Mueller in 1945 (19 2/3 IP) and Eric Erickson in 1918 (16 IP). http://mlb.si.com/2013/05/07/matt-harve ... fect-game/

Ashie62 May 08 2013 11:20 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

I would not have suspected such greatness from Rob Gardner...wow...

Edgy MD May 08 2013 11:39 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Matt Harvey Is Pretty Awesome By Joe DeLessio So last night, after taking care of a first-inning nosebleed, Matt Harvey went on to pitch about the best baseball game you’ll ever see: He allowed just one hit — an infield single — in nine innings, walked nobody, and struck out twelve. (The Mets won in ten but gave Harvey no support, leading to a historically unfair no-decision.) Harvey’s been incredible over the first month-and-change of the season: He’s second in the National League in ERA, first in WHIP, first in strikeouts, first in WAR, and third in innings pitched, just a tick behind the leaders. In the off-season, the Mets (smartly) traded R.A. Dickey, who’d been the N.L.’s best pitcher in 2012. And we’ll be damned if they don’t have the best pitcher in the league so far in 2013. Harvey isn’t the only thing Mets fans have been able to get excited about in recent years: David Wright is a bona fide star, Dickey’s 2012 season was a pleasure to watch, and then there was that time Johan Santana threw a no-hitter. But Harvey’s emergence is the biggest sign yet that the Mets’ rebuilding process is actually happening on the field, and not just on depth charts and farm reports. Harvey actually pre-dates Sandy Alderson’s arrival in the organization, but he worked his way through the system since being selected seventh overall in 2010, made his debut last season, and has dazzled thus far in 2013. Mets fans have been burned by well-hyped pitchers before — Generation K, anyone? — but so far, Harvey’s been everything they could have hoped for. He appears to be the type of pitcher the team can build around — the type of young arm every team in baseball dreams of developing. As exciting as Dickey was last year, and as likable as he’s always been, he was 37 years old in 2012. His success was wonderful, but it didn’t signal anything about the team’s future (other than increasing his trade value in order to acquire young players). Harvey, on the other hand, is gonna be here for a while. It’s always dangerous to heap too much praise on a pitcher with just seventeen big-league starts, and Harvey alone won’t make the team a legitimate contender. (As we write this, the Mets are 13-16, in fourth place in the N.L. East.) But none of that should keep Mets fans from being downright giddy about Harvey. The Mets, as you might imagine, are doing what they can to capitalize on the buzz: We count at least three e-mails in our in-box from the team’s ticket office hyping Harvey starts this year. The next of those starts, by the way, is scheduled for this coming Sunday, at Citi Field. He's awesome. John Buck punches Jordany Valdespin in the nose, and Matt Harvey bleeds for him.

batmagadanleadoff May 15 2013 09:07 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Finding the pitching-development droughts for all 30 teams By Grant Brisbee on May 15 2013, 9:01am Matt Harvey has a chance to be the first ace developed by the Mets since Dwight Gooden. How do other teams stack up? Matt Harvey is a Sports Illustrated cover star now. Part of me thinks it's a little too soon, and the other part of me is too busy checking in with alt.binaries.pictures.matt-harvey to see if any new GIFs are up. It's hard to complain about Harvey getting too much attention now because he almost didn't get any as a prospect. After years of breathlessly waiting for Fernando Martinez or Alex Ochoa to be the next Darryl Strawberry, the Mets slipped us an under-the-radar prospect. So strange. That's not the strangest thing about him, though. The strangest thing might be that he's a homegrown Mets pitcher who looks like he's approaching stardom. Tom Verducci took a look at the dearth of homegrown Mets pitchers, and found that since Dwight Gooden, there's been a whole lot of nothing. Good pitchers have come and gone (Johan Santana, Al Leiter, R.A. Dickey), but there haven't been any great homegrown pitchers developed by the Mets. Mike Pelfrey had a good season once. There's that. So how does that compare with other droughts around the league? I guess the first thing to do is define what constitutes a good pitcher or "an ace." Baseball Reference has a handy guide on every player's page to what wins above replacement usually hint at: 8+ MVP, 5+ A-S, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Sub, < 0 Repl It's probably a little too unrealistic to look for MVP-level homegrown pitchers, so let's stick with the five-win starters. Every team has developed one in their history, so let's find the last one. Still on the team Giants - Tim Lincecum, Matt Cain (Last season with 5+ WAR: 2009) Mariners - Felix Hernandez (2010) Red Sox - Jon Lester (2010) Angels - Jered Weaver (2011) Phillies - Cole Hamels (2011) Blue Jays - Ricky Romero (2011) White Sox - Chris Sale (2012) Tigers - Justin Verlander (2012) Rays - David Price (2012) Reds - Johnny Cueto (2012) Dodgers - Clayton Kershaw (2012) Romero kind of makes me sad, and if you think the courts should throw it out, note that Roy Halladay did it with the Jays for six straight years. The Giants are known for their homegrown pitching right now, but before Lincecum and Cain, their last All-Star-quality homegrown pitcher was Ed Halicki in 1977. Of course, between Jack Morris and Justin Verlander, there was Justin Thompson and only Justin Thompson. Recent past Cubs - Carlos Zambrano (2006) Padres - Jake Peavy (2007) Orioles - Erik Bedard (2007) Indians - CC Sabathia (2007) Astros - Roy Oswalt (2007) Yankees - Chien-Ming Wang (2007) Diamondbacks - Brandon Webb (2008) Royals - Zack Greinke (2009) Braves - Jair Jurrjens (2009) Marlins - Josh Johnson (2010) Rockies - Ubaldo Jimenez (2010) I was hoping the Rockies wouldn't have one, if only so there would be one freak team. But not only did I forget about Ubaldo, there was also Jason Jennings. More important, the second-best pitching year in Rockies history according to WAR? Pedro Astacio, 1999. His ERA was 5.04. The Yankees featured just one five-win pitcher in the '80s, and he (Ron Guidry) was developed in the '70s, so that sort of explains the kind of lost decade that will waste Rickey Henderson's best years. Not-so-recent past Rangers - Kenny Rogers (2002) Nationals - Javier Vazquez (2003) Pirates - Kris Benson (2004) Brewers - Ben Sheets (2004) Twins - Brad Radke (2004) Athletics - Barry Zito, Mark Mulder, Tim Hudson (2003) Ryan Drese wasn't homegrown, and neither is Matt Harrison. C.J. Wilson came close to five wins, but never went over. And Kenny Rogers' 2002 season came on his second tour with the Rangers, so I'm not sure if it counts. Luckily, it was Rogers who did it in the first place. Benson was at five wins exactly, which makes me want to write Baseball-Reference.com and see if there's some sort of auditing process that could bump him down to 4.9 just for symmetry's sake. But before that is Francisco Cordova in 1998, so it's not like the adjustment would make that much of a difference. And for all the young pitching the A's seem to have at any given moment, most of it isn't coming from the draft or the international market. Distant, distant past Mets - Dwight Gooden (1985) So it's not just an interesting factoid to throw into a Matt Harvey feature -- the Mets have really had an unusual time developing their own pitchers. Verducci's column limited the search to drafted players only, but opening the floor to international free agents doesn't help things any. The last 20 Mets pitchers with a three-win season: Rk Player Year WAR 1 Jonathon Niese 2012 3.4 2 R.A. Dickey 2012 5.8 3 R.A. Dickey 2011 3.6 4 R.A. Dickey 2010 3.6 5 Johan Santana 2010 4.6 6 Johan Santana 2009 3.3 7 Johan Santana 2008 7.1 8 Mike Pelfrey 2008 3.2 9 Tom Glavine 2005 4.1 10 Pedro Martinez 2005 6.9 11 Jae Weong Seo 2005 3.1 12 Tom Glavine 2004 4.0 13 Al Leiter 2004 4.8 14 Al Leiter 2003 3.6 15 Jae Weong Seo 2003 3.2 16 Steve Trachsel 2003 4.4 17 Kevin Appier 2001 3.5 18 Al Leiter 2001 3.0 19 Rick Reed 2001 3.0 20 Al Leiter 2000 4.8 I cut the list off at 20 because #21 was Armando Benitez, and no one wants to see that. But the Mets don't have the worst drought when it comes to homegrown starters performing at an All-Star level. That one gets its own category … Wait, what? Cardinals - John Denny (1978) Since Denny's season, the Cardinals have won six N.L. pennants and three World Series. But they've done it with poached players, whether via trades or free agency. They've had good seasons from homegrown starters, don't get me wrong. The last three-win season came from Rick Ankiel, and there was Matt Morris and Alan Benes before that. Or Andy Benes. One of the Beni. But other than those pitchers, the real success has come mostly from other organizations. There you have it: the Cardinals are your beacon of incompetence. If only other teams could fail so magnificently. (Or succeed without rubbing everyone else's noses in it.) It figures. The Cardinals have always known that there's more than one way to skin a Kaat. http://www.baseballnation.com/2013/5/15 ... evelopment

bmfc1 May 24 2013 07:51 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

http://deadspin.com/how-many-mistakes-a ... -509666541 Matt Jones.

batmagadanleadoff May 26 2013 12:52 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Met's ace Matt Harvey 'dating' Victoria's Secret model Anne V http://www.business-standard.com/articl ... 095_1.html New York Mets pitcher Matt Harvey and supermodel Anne V were reportedly spotted getting intimate in public at the New York Rangers playoff game at Madison Square Garden, on Thursday. Harvey- who is a Connecticut-born, die-hard Rangers fan- first met the green-eyed blond bombshell in early May after they watched the Broadway Blueshirts win at the Garden, the New York Post reported. According to Us Weekly magazine, Harvey, 24, managed to get Anne's phone number and they've been dating ever since. Anne, 27, is a Russian-born model, whose full name is Anne Vyalitsina and she is more recognizable for her nine straight appearances in the annual Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue.

batmagadanleadoff May 28 2013 10:23 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

batmagadanleadoff wrote: If I read Wifey watch more often, I wouldn't be the last to know.

Zvon Jun 02 2013 09:30 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

Shes prettier with no makeup. I've hear Harvey called our ACE by the media quite a few times now. I know he's been pitching like an ACE for the most part, but I never thought of him as our ACE. As long as Niese heads the rotation I consider him to be the ACE. I just read this: The Mets plan to give Jon Niese an extra day to rest his balky left shoulder, starting Matt Harvey on regular rest Friday at Citi Field and Niese the following day. Niese, who missed Saturday's start with a bout of left shoulder tendinitis, will test his arm for the first time in a bullpen session Tuesday. Will it stay that way? Is this the Mets way of attempting to change that status?

Edgy MD Jun 02 2013 10:38 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

I think it is what it is. An extra day of rest.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 03 2013 04:49 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

The rotation often gets jumbled after Opening Day, because of skipped starts, doubleheaders, etc. There is no longer a "head" of the rotation. And Harvey is clearly the ace of the staff.

Mets – Willets Point Jun 03 2013 08:33 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Is that pronounced "Anne Vee" or "Anne Five?"

Vic Sage Jun 03 2013 08:35 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Shes prettier with no makeup. she's prettier with no clothes.

Zvon Jun 03 2013 03:24 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

Benjamin Grimm wrote: The rotation often gets jumbled after Opening Day, because of skipped starts, doubleheaders, etc. There is no longer a "head" of the rotation. And Harvey is clearly the ace of the staff. Was just on the phone with one of my brothers and he said this same exact thing.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 03 2013 07:12 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

That WAS me! I'm surprised it took you so long to figure it out!

Zvon Jun 03 2013 07:37 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

Benjamin Grimm wrote: That WAS me! I'm surprised it took you so long to figure it out! What an awesome board twist! Doug, you should have saved that for the season finale.

Fman99 Jun 04 2013 06:18 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Mets – Willets Point wrote: Is that pronounced "Anne Vee" or "Anne Five?" She's mine, back off! I give her more input, if you know what I mean.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 23 2013 05:02 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

According to ESPN's 2013 NL Cy Young Award Predictor, neither Matt Harvey nor Clayton Kershaw would finish in the top 10 in voting as of today.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 25 2013 02:26 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

Buy ESPN's upcoming Body Issue, and you'll get to see what supermodel Anne V sees most nights. Matt Harvey Nude: Mets Ace To Pose Naked For ESPN Body Issue By Raimundo Ortiz | Jun 25, 2013 01:53 PM EDT No word yet, on whether Anthony Recker will also be featured, Swannie, but I'll post a link if I come across anything. Matt Harvey, the 24-year-old New York Mets fireballing right-hander who owns Queens these days, will be posing nude in ESPN's newest "Body" issue which hits newsstands July 12th. Harvey has been perhaps the biggest story of the 2013 Major League Baseball season, posting a sparkling 7-1 record, 2.05 ERA and 121 strikeouts in 110 innings. He has been nicknamed The Dark Knight of Gotham, and along with another young starter by the name of Zack Wheeler, is giving Mets fans hope for the future in these bleak times. The MLB All-Star Game is being hosted by the Mets in Citi Field this year, and that could lend Harvey a hand in being named the starter if he maintains his torrid pace. He will surely garner a significantly greater female vote after they get a shot to gawk at his physique in July. Harvey isn't the first Met to bare all in ESPN's annual "Body" issue. In 2011, then-Mets shortstop Jose Reyes appeared in the magazine. Harvey's division-mate, Miami Marlins outfielder Giancarlo Stanton will join him in this risqué edition. San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick will headline the NFL entrants in the issue along with his teammate, tight end Vernon Davis. Expect a heavy focus on Kaepernick's extensive body art, which has been previously featured elsewhere in both a positive and negative light. When asked about being in this special issue Kaepernick said, "Being selected by ESPN The Magazine for the Body Issue is an incredible honor. Thank you for believing in me, my 49ers family and my INK!" Perhaps the most surprising model for the "Body" issue is Gary Player, a 77-year-old golfer. The rest of the featured athletes are Kenneth Faried, John Wall, Courtney Force, Swin Cash, Carly Booth, John Isner, Sidney Leroux, Joffrey Lupul, Elena Hight, Agnieszka Radwanska, Chris Sharma and Daila Ojeda. http://www.sportsworldnews.com/articles ... -issue.htm

Swan Swan H Jun 25 2013 02:30 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

batmagadanleadoff wrote: No word yet, on whether Anthony Recker will also be featured, Swannie, but I'll post a link if I come across anything. If you do come across a naked picture of Anthony Recker, you won't be the last one.

Frayed Knot Jun 25 2013 02:44 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

The rest of the featured athletes are Kenneth Faried, John Wall, Courtney Force, Swin Cash, Carly Booth, John Isner, Sidney Leroux, Joffrey Lupul, Elena Hight, Agnieszka Radwanska, Chris Sharma and Daila Ojeda. I'm drawing a 1-for-13 on that crew. John Wall is only name I know (I wouldn't recognize him even if we were the only two stuck on an elevator ... but I at least know who he is).

Benjamin Grimm Jun 25 2013 02:45 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

I'm a solid 0 for 13. I fear I might be sent to Las Vegas.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 25 2013 02:47 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

"Being selected by ESPN The Magazine for the Body Issue is an incredible honor. Thank you for believing in me, my 49ers family and my INK!" Attention. It's the new cocaine!

Centerfield Jun 25 2013 02:47 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

Frayed Knot wrote: John Wall is only name I know (I wouldn't recognize him even if we were the only two stuck on an elevator ... but I at least know who he is). Well, he'd be the naked one. Duh.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 25 2013 02:54 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

I'll let someone else look up the dudes on the list. Elena Hight Agnieszka Radwanska Courtney Force Daila Ojeda Carly Booth Swin Cash Sydney Leroux

Edgy MD Jun 25 2013 02:55 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

[list]Kenneth Faried: Pakastani-American jouranlist, specializing international relations. John Wall: British politician. Tory. Courtney Force: From the sexy new breed of alternative young magicians. She prefers "necromancer." Swin Cash: Hatefully callow rich young swain. Carly Booth: Whimsical teenaged host of the Nickleodeon show, Everything's Gone Carly! She's a breath of fresh air! John Isner: Conservative, Indiana. Sidney Leroux: Lightning-quick center-iceman Joffrey Lupul: Indan ballet giant. Elena Hight: Blogger. "The Oraganic Mom." Agnieszka Radwanska: Theolgoian. Author of The Gulag Christ. Chris Sharma: NASCAR driver who everybody else on the circuit hates and he can't figure it out why for the life of him. Daila Ojeda: Met offspring, hardest forehand in tennis, but can't keep her game consistent enough to avoid unforced errors and crack the top ten.[/list:u] How'm I doin?

Benjamin Grimm Jun 25 2013 02:56 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

Just bumping this to the next page, otherwise nobody will see it... Elena, by the way, is a snowboarder (or something). Everyone else's photo indicates what they do. Sydney, in case it's not clear, is a soccer player. Benjamin Grimm wrote: I'll let someone else look up the dudes on the list. Elena Hight Agnieszka Radwanska Courtney Force Daila Ojeda Carly Booth Swin Cash Sydney Leroux

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 25 2013 03:25 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

Oh, that detestable Swin Cash! What a rogue!

Frayed Knot Jun 25 2013 03:31 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

Centerfield wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: John Wall is only name I know (I wouldn't recognize him even if we were the only two stuck on an elevator ... but I at least know who he is). Well, he'd be the naked one. Duh. What, you think I've never been naked on an elevator before?

Ceetar Jun 25 2013 03:34 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

Carly Booth turned 21 last week. Apparently Google images started grouping common keywords together at the top of the page. top three: Boyfriend, hot, ballroom.

Ashie62 Jun 25 2013 04:36 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

Centerfield wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: John Wall is only name I know (I wouldn't recognize him even if we were the only two stuck on an elevator ... but I at least know who he is). Well, he'd be the naked one. Duh. This concept worked out well for Reyes...Don't do it Matt! Oops, too late, he did...

batmagadanleadoff Jun 26 2013 10:21 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

I was wondering this precise issue to myself a few days ago: Would the Mets alter their rotation to allow Harvey to start the Citi Field ASG if Harvey was otherwise scheduled to start the Sunday before the game? Mets may set it up for Harvey to get All-Star start By MIKE PUMA Last Updated: 3:20 AM, June 26, 2013 Posted: 2:16 AM, June 26, 2013 CHICAGO — If Matt Harvey is going to represent his franchise in the All-Star Game, potentially as the National League’s starting pitcher, the Mets might have to adjust their pitching plans. Pitching coach Dan Warthen told The Post yesterday Harvey is scheduled to pitch the Mets’ final game before the All-Star break, on July 14 in Pittsburgh. If Harvey makes that start, it likely would remove him from consideration for starting the All-Star Game at Citi Field two nights later. But before the Mets lost 5-4 to the White Sox Tuesday night at U.S. Cellular Field, manager Terry Collins said Harvey’s schedule is something he isn’t too concerned about at this point. “That is [20] days away, a lot could change,” Collins said, referring to postponements that could alter the rotation. “But if he gets picked to start the game, I would think we would adjust it.” All-Star rosters are set to be unveiled on July 7, but the All-Star managers typically don’t announce their starting pitchers until the day before the game. That would put the Mets in the position of needing advance notice from NL manager Bruce Bochy if Harvey was going to receive the assignment. According to the collective bargaining agreement, a pitcher used on the Sunday before the break can’t pitch more than an inning in the All-Star Game. Typically, the starting pitcher goes at least two innings. “I haven’t talked to Bruce — I’m sure that’s the last thing on his mind right now,” Collins said. Harvey (7-1, 2.05 ERA) was told yesterday that his next turn in the rotation will come on Friday at Citi Field against the Nationals. He would then pitch July 3 at Citi Field against the Diamondbacks and July 8 in San Francisco before taking the ball in Pittsburgh on July 14. Collins’ flexibility comes from a scheduled off day on July 11. Harvey is now scheduled to pitch on five days’ rest on his final start before the break, but could be adjusted to pitch on normal rest on July 13 in Pittsburgh. That would give him two days’ rest between pitching for the Mets and potentially in the All-Star Game. Though not ideal, it could be enough to let Harvey throw 30-40 pitches in the All-Star game. “I haven’t even thought about it,” Harvey said, referring to the Mets’ rotation heading into the break. “I don’t even know what date the All-Star Game is. Obviously the biggest concern is pitching every fifth day here for the Mets. We need to win as many ballgames before the break as we can and whatever they decide I’ll be all for it, going out there to do everything I can.” The Dodgers’ Clayton Kershaw, who is 5-5 with a 2.06 ERA, is Harvey’s primary competition for the start, but with the Mets hosting the game Harvey has to be considered the favorite. Harvey said he was glad to find out he will be pitching Friday on four days’ rest this week instead of Saturday on five. He threw only 72 pitches in six shutout innings against the Phillies on Sunday. “Everything is feeling good, the mechanics are right where I want them,” Harvey said. “It was one of those where I didn’t really feel like I needed the extra day. Obviously I don’t make the decisions and they were going to discuss the situation [Monday] and let me know, so coming in today they told me it was Friday and I’m excited.” http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/met ... nORS31T7yO

batmagadanleadoff Jun 29 2013 10:01 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Mets may place innings limit on Matt Harvey By Noah Jarosh on Jun 29 2013, 11:05am Harvey has been one of the best pitchers in MLB since being called up in July 2012, but the Mets may have to keep an eye on his workload. With the team well out of contention, the New York Mets may place an innings limit on young starter Matt Harvey this season, reports the New York Post. "As I said, we’ve got to start being careful here. [Harvey] has thrown a lot of pitches and a lot of games and gotten us deep into a lot of games. We’ve got to be careful that we don’t just let him loose and overuse him.’’ New York first called up Harvey in late July of 2012. Since then, the right-hander has been a full-time member of the rotation. He has also been their best starter over that span, with a 2.25 career ERA over his first 27 starts. This season, he leads the NL in ERA (2.00), WHIP (0.855) and strikeouts (132). Harvey has also already thrown 117 innings in 2013, tied for the fourth most in MLB. The man he is tied with, CC Sabathia, is well-known as being a workhorse who can eat up a lot of innings. Harvey, on the other hand, is poised to be the Mets ace for years to come. The Mets currently stand at 32-44, fourth in the NL East. With a postseason bid growing more unlikely by the day, New York will want to save Harvey's arm for when they do compete. http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2013/6/29/4 ... -york-mets

batmagadanleadoff Jun 30 2013 09:58 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

New York Mets' manager Terry Collins to limit Matt Harvey's workload in second half New York Mets' right-hander Matt Harvey is on pace to throw 249 innings in 2013, which has caused manager Terry Collins to consider a plan to limit Harvey's workload through the second half of the season. "As we continue into the season with three months to go, always remember something: we are not—we are not—going to hinder this kid's health by killing him now, when the future is so bright," Collins told MLB.com's Anthony DiComo and Chris Iseman. "With (Zack) Wheeler coming, with (Rafael) Montero coming, all these young prospect pitchers coming, we're not going to jeopardize what's down the road for right now. I'm not going to do it. So we're going to monitor his workload, and hopefully he gets through the month of September." MORE: Royals DFA Jeff Francoeur | Pirates first to 50 wins Harvey threw 169 1/3 innings last season between the Mets and the organization's previous Class AAA affiliate in Buffalo. Jumping to 249 innings in 2013 would be a 47 percent leap, which is well above the standard 15-20 percent jump from year to year. Collins said he plans to speak to general manager Sandy Alderson and pitching coach Dan Warthen, among others, about Harvey's situation, as Harvey has already thrown 117 innings in 2013 in 17 starts. He is 7-1 with a National League leading 2.00 ERA. With pitching prospects Wheeler and Montero coming along in the minor leagues, the pair's emergence would allow Collins to give Harvey extended rest between starts to effectively cut his innings down. Wheeler has already made his debut with the Mets. He holds a 1-0 record with a 3.18 ERA in two starts and will make his third major league start Sunday against the Washington Nationals. Montero is still at at Class AAA Las Vegas. He will be part of the World Team in the Futures Game as part of All-Star week at Citi Field in July—a game both Harvey and Wheeler have pitched in the last two seasons. The Mets shut down Harvey at the end of the 2012 season as well to preserve his arm. http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/story/2 ... -strasburg

MFS62 Jun 30 2013 10:15 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Royals DFA Jeff Francoeur They* wouldn't. They just wouldn't. Would they? Later * = the Mets FO

Elster88 Jun 30 2013 03:10 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

I'd rather have them put a total pitch limit instead of an innings limit.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 02 2013 07:28 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

Stumbled into this while rain-delay channel-flipping... A closed-captioning worker quoting NL All-Star manager Bruce Bochy, as quoted by Matt Vasgergian during the MLB Network broadcast of Giants-Reds wrote: "I'd like to be able to give [Harvey] the ball... whether he can do that, that's a conversation he has to have with [the Mets]."

Edgy MD Jul 04 2013 08:01 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

If I've learned anything from the Johnny Bravo episode of The Brady Bunch, I've leaned that this is the sort of thing that could lead to a big head. And a big head is the most destructive force in the universe.

Ashie62 Jul 04 2013 08:05 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

If that is Harvey all I can say is dear Lord. I don't now about that chest tat...Oh well...

Swan Swan H Jul 04 2013 08:14 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

The Mets ticket office has been advertising a Matt Harvey package for $49. Looks like you can pick up the magazine for around $8 if you want to see Matt Harvey's package.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 07 2013 10:34 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Mets ace pitcher Matt Harvey looks Amazin' as he bares all in ESPN The Magazine's Body Issue

themetfairy Jul 07 2013 10:36 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Oh my!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 07 2013 11:49 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

ghey.

Zvon Jul 07 2013 11:55 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

My first thought was I've never seen Seavers ass.

Edgy MD Jul 07 2013 08:57 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

I wish I could say the same.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 07 2013 09:00 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

A little thick for my taste. I prefer 'em "whiplike."

batmagadanleadoff Jul 08 2013 12:30 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

Dodgers ace Kershaw: Mets' Harvey should start All-Star Game Clayton Kershaw is headed to his third straight All-Star Game and is a strong candidate to start the game for the National League. But even he thinks Mets ace Matt Harvey should start the game which will be played next Tuesday at Citi FIeld. "He should (start). There's no reason, especially if it's in New York, that he shouldn't start. That's what the fans will want. I've got no problem with that," the Dodgers southpaw told FOXSports.com on Monday. Kershaw, 8-5, ranks first in the National League in innings pitched (138 1/3), ERA (1.89) and WHIP (0.90), but wants Harvey, who is 7-2 with a 2.27 ERA and leads the NL with 141 strikeouts to start the game in his home ballpark. Kershaw's next scheduled start is on Friday against the Rockies, while Harvey is scheduled to pitch Monday against the Giants and this weekend against the Pirates. Giants skipper Bruce Bochy is also the NL manager, so he will get a close look at Harvey. Mets manager Terry Collins, who is an assistant coach for the game, could also try and sway his decision towards Harvey. The starting pitchers in the All-Star Game tend to pitch the first two and sometimes three innings of the game. The lineup and startring pitchers for the game will be announced on Monday, July 15, a day before the game. http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/metsblog/ ... z2YSp7W4jO

metirish Jul 09 2013 06:41 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Harvey looks like a proper wanker in those pics.......

Edgy MD Jul 09 2013 07:19 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

The thing is, I realize he's getting a ton of publicity, and that by it's very nature makes him a babe magnet and a walking bottle of SEO hot sauce, but his hostile tobacco-chomping grill suggests to me that he's like, the Met I would least want to see naked, if I was into that sort of thing. Current Mets Roster in the Order of How Much I Would Want to See Them Naked, if I was into That Sort of Thing [list=1][*]Anthony Recker[/*:m] [*]Carlos Torres[/*:m] [*]Kirk Nieuwenhuis[/*:m] [*]Eric Young[/*:m] [*]Juan Lagares[/*:m] [*]David Aardsma[/*:m] [*]Andrew Brown[/*:m] [*]Greg Burke[/*:m] [*]David Wright[/*:m] [*]Dillon Gee[/*:m] [*]LaTroy Hawkins[/*:m] [*]Zack Wheeler[/*:m] [*]Jeremy Hefner[/*:m] [*]Scott Rice[/*:m] [*]Daniel Murphy[/*:m] [*]Bobby Parnell[/*:m] [*]Ike Davis[/*:m] [*]Shaun Marcum[/*:m] [*]Omar Quintanilla[/*:m] [*]Marlon Byrd[/*:m] [*]Josh Edgin[/*:m] [*]Jordany Valdespin[/*:m] [*]John Buck[/*:m] [*]Josh Satin[/*:m] [*]Matt Harvey[/*:m][/list:o]

Swan Swan H Jul 09 2013 07:28 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Wow. I have Aardsma down around 15. Or I would, if I were into that sort of thing. And Sugarpants only at 9? Blasphemer.

metirish Jul 09 2013 07:29 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

I like Satin at 24, even naked I imagine it's the brows that draws one in.......

Ceetar Jul 09 2013 07:54 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Haven't we already seen Ike Davis naked?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 09 2013 08:13 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

I was sort of joking when I said Harvey was a douchebag but Harvey sort of is a douchebag. He should stop going around demanding he be the all-star starter and start pitching like one.

Vic Sage Jul 09 2013 08:43 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Is it just me, or has Harvey simply come down to Earth? Is he a flawed mortal after all?

metirish Jul 09 2013 09:06 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Vic Sage wrote: Is it just me, or has Harvey simply come down to Earth? Is he a flawed mortal after all? nope . just too darn busy right now.....feast your eyes Bucket http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/f ... Y9IkqQII3H http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/p ... laamWBgw2L

Edgy MD Jul 09 2013 09:11 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Vic Sage wrote: Is it just me, or has Harvey simply come down to Earth? Is he a flawed mortal after all? Making rounds with a publicity-hungry sexpot saps your focus. Believe me, I know.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 09 2013 09:13 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

"I decided it was time to give Cole Hamels a run for his money in the douchebag department," Harvey remarked.

metirish Jul 09 2013 09:17 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

This picture shoot is somehow worse than the espn one......I think he is in for a rude awakening. No disrespect to Henrik and his style but he wouldn't be recognized by most New Yorkers walking down the street, Harvey seems to have way too much stuff going on, could very easily get swallowed up in it all.

Edgy MD Jul 09 2013 09:29 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Yeah, let's find him a woman to domesticate his over-exposed ass, rather than one who'll cosmipolitanize it. (And really is there anything sadder and scarier than a cosmopolitan guy who chews tobaccy?) That way he can be a douche one day in five the way great pitchers should be. Surely Nancy Seaver has a grandniece or somebody she can set him up with.

Vic Sage Jul 09 2013 09:32 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

when ya got it, flaunt it baby, flaunt it!

batmagadanleadoff Jul 09 2013 09:49 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Harvey Pitching With Blister On Right Index Finger, Might Miss Next Start NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) – Matt Harvey hasn’t been his dominant self over his past two starts. And now it seems that we know why. Following the Mets’ marathon victory over the Giants on Monday night, manager Terry Collins informed reporters that the staff ace has been pitching with a blister on his right index finger for much of the past month. “Obviously he pitched fine, but that’s not what we have seen through most of the first half,” Collins told the New York Daily News. “He’s had a small blister that we have disregarded because it hasn’t been bothering him. He didn’t throw as much between starts as he normally does and I think you saw the effects of it because his command wasn’t what it normally is.” Harvey, who will likely start for the National League in the All-Star Game if he’s healthy enough to do so, earned a no-decision on Monday. He surrendered three runs on six hits in seven frames, walking one and striking out six. The All-Star wasn’t in any mood to use the blister as an excuse. “It’s no excuse for my poor pitching,” Harvey told the newspaper. “I think if you ask any pitcher they always have some problems with blisters. I’m not going to make an excuse for my poor performances. It’s something to work on between starts and try and get better.” The 24-year-old endured the worst start of his season last Wednesday against the D-Backs, giving up five runs on nine hits in six innings. He did, however, strike out nine. After serving up a two-run homer to Buster Posey in the first inning on Monday, Harvey settled down and kept the Mets in the game. “The last two have been a struggle,” Harvey said, according to ESPN. “I’m obviously not happy. There’s work to be done. The positive part was going seven. Obviously I’m not happy about giving up the runs and stuff like that. I think after three innings it was 70-something pitches. Being able to bounce back and throw seven was probably the only plus of tonight’s start. It was a good win for us. That’s all that matters.” Collins said that Harvey might miss his next start on Saturday against the Pirates, though it doesn’t have to do with his finger. The skipper might have Harvey rest so that he can be available for the Midsummer Classic. The second-year player is 7-2 on the season with a 2.35 ERA and a 0.92 WHIP. He has struck out 147 and walked 28 in 130 innings pitched. http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/07/09/ ... ext-start/

Vic Sage Jul 09 2013 09:50 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Apparently, he's had a blister, which i hear with some relief. Maybe they can have him skip a start, and make sure he doesn't pitch more than 1 inning in the A-S game (whether he starts it our not). on edti: DOH! Collins beat me to it.

metirish Jul 09 2013 09:52 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

Would he not be over-rested for the ASG if he is skipped?(although I am sure he will keep himself busy)

Vic Sage Jul 09 2013 09:59 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

metirish wrote: Would he not be over-rested for the ASG if he is skipped?(although I am sure he will keep himself busy) "over rested"? he should only have such a problem. They have him on an innings cap anyway. He's going to have to start missing some starts, or they'll shut him down in August and then there'll NO REASON to go to CitiField in September at all. And what he does or doesn't do in the AS game should be of no concern to the org, other than getting assurances he won't be used much.

Vic Sage Jul 09 2013 10:00 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

in fact, they might consider holding one of Bochy's kids hostage (does he have any kids?), until Harvey is returned unharmed and nearly unused.

Ashie62 Jul 09 2013 10:39 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

As far as the photo shoots and such..he aint Joe Namath..

Edgy MD Jul 09 2013 10:48 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

He ain't even Josh Satin.

Nymr83 Jul 09 2013 11:18 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

If the AS game wasn't here they'd probably already have announced he wasn't going... but at home they'd push him out there even if he needs Tommy John surgery the next day.

Vic Sage Jul 09 2013 01:07 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

careful, your anti-wilpon agenda is showing. zip up, dude.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 09 2013 02:57 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

Those photo shoots, I think, will haunt him. It does seem that we are rather impressed with ourselves.

metirish Jul 09 2013 04:32 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

I think a part of him believes he's the most interesting person in the world.

Ashie62 Jul 09 2013 04:58 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

I'm waiting for the forum body issue....

metsmarathon Jul 09 2013 07:33 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

sooner or later, everything comes around to [vic sage's] ass. do you really want that?

Edgy MD Jul 09 2013 07:36 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

Here I am.

Edgy MD Jul 10 2013 12:26 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

Skipping Harvey's last first-half start.

Farmer Ted Jul 10 2013 01:12 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

So, taking Little Ted to the game on Saturday for Happy Harvey Night, fireworks and all at PNC. Effin Wilpon, this is all his fault. Blister Schmister.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 10 2013 07:08 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

The last team to have different pitchers win consecutive Cy Young Awards were the Indians of 2007 (Sabathia) and 2008 (Lee). Name the most recent team and their two pitchers to accomplish this same feat immediately before the 07-08 Tribe. Peeker's Link -- http://www.amazinavenue.com/2013/7/9/44 ... y-new-york

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 10 2013 09:06 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

Los Bravos; Maddux and Smoltz?

batmagadanleadoff Jul 10 2013 10:13 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

Close, but no peace pipe. Maddux ('95) and Smoltz ('96) were back to back Cy Young Award winners for the Braves. But one team pulled off this feat after the Braves, but before the Tribe. Extra credit: Who would win in a footrace: Chief Noc-A-Homa, Chief Wahoo or Chief Wild (It is Ballooooon!) Eagle?

G-Fafif Jul 10 2013 11:49 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

Jays: Hentgen ('96), Clemens ('97, '98).

batmagadanleadoff Jul 15 2013 07:30 PM Re: Everything's Harvey

Matt Harvey on the Jimmy Fallon show. Funny stuff. Check out the video. http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/ ... tt-harvey/

Zvon Jul 19 2013 12:03 AM Re: Everything's Harvey

I thought this was pretty kool: