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Vic Sage Apr 25 2013 08:40 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 25 2013 08:46 AM

I don't know why i get so into the NFL draft, but i do. I know nearly nothing about college football and the names are just alphabet soup to me. But then i read all the articles, look at all the mock drafts, listen to all the tv and radio analysis, and come to some conclusions about who i want the JETS to take. Like i know as much about this stuff as the GM. That being said, here's my view. The Jets need everything. EVERYTHING. There isn't a position of strength on the team, except maybe defensive line (filled with recent 1st rounders Ellis, Coples and Wilkerson and new FA signing Garay), but none of these guys are pass rushers per se (though they do pick up a few sacks each, here and there). They have traded their best player for the #13 pick (they also got a 3R pick for next year, but they would've gotten a compensation pick anyway had they kept Revis and he left as a FA after the season, so that's really a wash), so this is a team in total rebuild mode. We've got virtually no skill position players of any note. No franchise QB. Our defense is still OK, but just took a hit. The roof is on fire and the floor is collapsing. run for the hills. In this kind of apocalyptic situation, you draft THE BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE. I know GMs always say they do, but they don't. If they need a QB, they'll reach for one in the 1st R who isn't a 1st R talent, and then they're stuck with him for 3-4 years until he proves out or washes out, taking the coach and/or GM with him (bye, Tannenbaum, don't forget to write!). But when you are starting from scratch and you need every single thing, you just pick the best guy. But when you're building, ideally you want to build from the inside out. The offensive line and defensive line are the heart of any good team, and if you have good ones, even mediocre skill players or DBs will play ok, whereas its not true the other way around. The best QB in the world can't play if he's on his ass, and the best RBs, TE and WRs can't do anything if there's no time for the QB to throw and no holes to run through. And if your defensive front can't stop the run and put pressure on the QB, then even Revis can't stop an offense from dominating them. Plus, good linemen tend to have long solid careers (less career-ending injuries) and are the rocks upon which you then build for a decade of sustained success. Skill guys come and go. You pick them when everything else is already in place. So with the 9th and 13th picks, and a dearth of superstar talent at the top of the draft but a great amount of depth later on, i'd like to see the Jets take one of the Guards (Cooper or Warmack) and trade the other pick to pick up a later 1st and a 2nd. If Dion Jordan (DE) fell, he's the kind of sure thing pass rushing end they also need, but there is little reason to think he'll still be there at 9. Likely they'll be considering Mingo, Jarvis Jones and Ansah as pass-rushers, but all have question marks and there is better talent available at 9 and 13 than those guys. There is talk of them taking the Notre Dame TE, Eifert, and they of course need one and he'll probably be a good one, but whose going to throw him the ball, and whose going to protect the guy throwing the ball? Still, if they think he's the best player available, and they aren't trading down, then fine, take him. But he's the only skill guy i would want them to consider at that point in the draft. What i do NOT want to see is the tiny receiver Tevon Austin, or a QB (any of them), or a RB (god forbid), or even a CB like Milliner (they may think they have to replace Revis, but no one can, and there are a number of good CBs and Safeties in this draft that will be available later). If they take a QB in the 1st R, i will throw this monitor out the window. There will be some decent prospects like Matt Scott and Zac Dysert in 3rd round, so they need to be patient. Also, there will be better 1st R QB talent next year and i feel confident in saying the Jets will once again have a prime pick in that draft.

seawolf17 Apr 25 2013 08:46 AM Re: NFL Draft day

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seawolf17 Apr 25 2013 08:47 AM Re: NFL Draft day

Oh, and this: http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_ ... ft-weekend Despite his FCS background, Maysonet has created some buzz. On Tuesday, ESPN draft analyst Todd McShay said on the air that Maysonet could be this year's Alfred Morris -- a lofty comparison. Morris, drafted in the sixth round last year out of Florida Atlantic, rushed for 1,613 yards as a rookie for the Redskins. NFL Network draft guru Mike Mayock admitted he knew nothing about Maysonet until late last fall, when his son -- a member of the Villanova team -- raved about Maysonet's tape during the run-up to the Villanova-Stony Brook playoff game. "It made me go out and take a peek at the kid," Mayock said. "He's a solid back with some burst and explosion. He's not on the national radar, but he's a guy I get a kick out of. [I'm] not sure he's going to get drafted, but he's one of those guys that certainly has an opportunity to make a team." An AFC assistant coach, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said of Maysonet, "He plays fast. Quick as hell. That play in the Syracuse game was unbelievable. It got my attention." That play, a 71-yard touchdown run in which he hurdled a defender, is his signature moment. He always hears about that play from scouts.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 25 2013 08:49 AM Re: NFL Draft day

Vic Sage wrote: I don't know why i get so into the NFL draft, but [I've] come to some conclusions about who i want the JETS to take.... The best Jets rumor I've read has them trading down with the 49ers, who have the most picks in this year's draft (13), and a roster so talent laden that there is no way that 13 rookies make that team. The top of this year's draft is considered weak and as you point out, the Jets need quantity as much as quality.

Vic Sage Apr 25 2013 09:02 AM Re: NFL Draft day

yeah, Wolfie, their draft history is pretty depressing. But i don't think its fair to list Freeman McNeil among Jet "busts". He's the 2nd best running back in franchise history (after Curtis Martin, but before guys like Snell, Riggins and bruce harper). And Ken OBrien, while certainly overdrafted (and taken ahead of Marino), wasn't exactly a bust either. He, too, is arguably the 2nd best player at his position in Jet history (Boomer and Vinnie were better but only for very short periods, and of course Broadway Joe, but certainly ahead of guys like Richard Todd and Sanchez).

Vic Sage Apr 25 2013 09:07 AM Re: NFL Draft day

i'd be happy to see them draft Maysonet in the 6th or 7th round, if he's still there. But i don't need to see them overdraft, just cuz he's local.

Fman99 Apr 25 2013 09:10 AM Re: NFL Draft day

I read a first round prediction the other day and maybe 3-4 of the top 32 projected picks were skill position players. Shapes up for a dull draft, for me at least. I think the Jets are fucked no matter what. Because that's just how it's been. Watching them draft players is like watching a Kardashian do anything.

Vic Sage Apr 25 2013 09:16 AM Re: NFL Draft day

Fman99 wrote: I read a first round prediction the other day and maybe 3-4 of the top 32 projected picks were skill position players. Shapes up for a dull draft, for me at least. I think the Jets are fucked no matter what. Because that's just how it's been. Watching them draft players is like watching a Kardashian do anything. agreed, about Jets. but i'm curious as to why the position of the players being drafted effects your enjoyment of the event. Is it because your more familiar with the names of the skill players? I get that. But for me, i don't know ANY of these guys, so they're all just names i've recently become familiar with, and Austin has no more glamour to me than Vaccaro. The excitement is in the horse race -- who gets who and why and how that affects whose left for the other teams -- and in the unknown; the suspense of it. Everybody has opinions about who is going, and who should go, in what slot but until the commissioner steps to the mike, nobody knows what anybody's going to do.

Fman99 Apr 25 2013 09:18 AM Re: NFL Draft day

Vic Sage wrote: Fman99 wrote: I read a first round prediction the other day and maybe 3-4 of the top 32 projected picks were skill position players. Shapes up for a dull draft, for me at least. I think the Jets are fucked no matter what. Because that's just how it's been. Watching them draft players is like watching a Kardashian do anything. agreed, about Jets. but i'm curious as to why the position of the players being drafted effects your enjoyment of the event. Is it because your more familiar with the names of the skill players? I get that. But for me, i don't know ANY of these guys, so they're all just names i've recently become familiar with, and Austin has no more glamour to me than Vaccaro. The excitement is in the horse race -- who gets who and why and how that affects whose left for the other teams -- and in the unknown; the suspense of it. Everybody has opinions about who is going, and who should go, in what slot but until the commissioner steps to the mike, nobody knows what anybody's going to do. I think it's a fantasy football thing -- we draft team defenses and offensive skill players, so these are the guys I know the most about from one year to the next.

Vic Sage Apr 25 2013 09:24 AM Re: NFL Draft day

ah. got it. which of the skill guys would you want the Jets to get then?

Fman99 Apr 25 2013 10:21 AM Re: NFL Draft day

No clue. I can tell you they need a QB, a RB and another WR or another TE. They lack all over the place. I don't follow college football real closely, so I don't have any tips for them. Get better, that would be my advice.

Mets – Willets Point Apr 25 2013 11:11 AM Re: NFL Draft day

They should have Tebow kneel down and put in a prayer for good draft picks.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 25 2013 11:56 AM Re: NFL Draft day

I like Ken O'Brien. Heck, I love Ken O'Brien-- I grew up on Ken O'Brien. But damn if that ESPN "30 for 30" about the '83 Draft didn't sting all over again (all the more so for not having no Jets rep in the documentary to give ANY rationale for passing on Marino). I'll pass on Austin... and Mingo; Patrick Peterson notwithstanding, the playmakers from Les Miles defenses tend to underperform-- massively-- in the NFL (see: Marcus Spears, Tyson Jackson, Glenn Dorsey). Jordan or one of the guards you mention, if they fall, seem ideal... but Jarvis Jones seems to pass the eye test, too. And trading the 13-- or, frankly, the 9-- for three 2nd-to-4th rounders seems even more ideal.

Frayed Knot Apr 25 2013 12:18 PM Re: NFL Draft day Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 26 2013 06:08 AM

I probably posted this last year too, but I'm going to do it again just because it cracks me up. ESPN programming day: They have SportsCenter every hour until 3:00, and these are basically draft night previews with a handful of last night's hoops highlights thrown in Then at 3 PM they have a 1-hour 'SportsCenter Special' which is specifically a pre-draft show. That gives way at 4:00 for 'NFL Live' which today will be ... a pre-draft show Then at 5 PM and for 2-1/2 hours comes 'SportsCenter Special' a draft preview show Then, just to mix it up, from 7:30-8:00 is ... wait for it ... 'SportsCenter Special', this one I believe comes from the site itself so there are probably different people saying the same thing as the first SCS and the second SCS and the NFL Live and then the SCS And finally at 8:00 comes the draft itself, where they race through 32 names called in only 3-1/2 hours So essentially that's 8-1/2 hours of draft talk for just one round (six more to come tomorrow and on Saturday) and that's only if you eliminate the fact that much of their programming for the entire week leading up to this afternoon was more or less unofficial draft previews. I wonder sometimes why the NFL even bothered going through the expense of forming their own network when they essentially have ESPN doing all their promo work for them.

MFS62 Apr 25 2013 12:23 PM Re: NFL Draft day

I agree with Vic. The greatest quarterbacks in the history of football never completed passes from a prone position. I'd pick one of the road grader guards from Alabama at #9 and then maybe an outside pass rusher at #13, if a good one is still available. And when their #39 pick comes around, some of the draft mags rate the tight end from Stamford higher than the guy from Notre Dame. A good receiving (and blocking) is necessary for the short passing game that would also tend to keep Sanchez vertical. From there, its a crapshoot. But is the The Jets will screw it up" kind of talk really pertinent? Idzik wasn't there for those disasters. Let's see what he can do. Later

Vic Sage Apr 25 2013 02:11 PM Re: NFL Draft day

It doesn't matter that he's new, Idzik has no ability to overcome the green-and-white... no one does. It's destiny. And not the good kind.

Ashie62 Apr 25 2013 03:37 PM Re: NFL Draft day

I believe the Jets will trade down with Nassib going at 8 to Buffalo but get Mingo in round one...Round 2...with crappy RB's available this year the Jets target A.J. McNeal of Florida State but Philly loves him and the Jets pic best available.. Good Luck to RU'ers Khaseem Greene Logan Ryan Juwan Jamison at I predict 3,4 & 5 Greene & Jamison to Big Blue.. Ansah from BYU is a friggin beast...Physically mature to the max..

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 25 2013 06:41 PM Re: NFL Draft day

Aaaaand there goes Dion Jordan (to Miami, who's not so keen about putting a full offensive line out there, apparently).

Ashie62 Apr 25 2013 07:41 PM Re: NFL Draft day

Jets take a high ceiling CB coming off five surgeries..Dee Milliner... Jets up..... Geno!!!!!

Ashie62 Apr 25 2013 07:48 PM Re: NFL Draft day

Jets go Sheldon Richardson DT Mizz...Gruden hats it...

MFS62 Apr 26 2013 07:19 AM Re: NFL Draft day

This team couldn't score drugs in a schoolyard. And they add defensive players? I've been suffering with the Jets (and Titans of New York before them) since 1960. That's before I began suffering with the Mets. I might snap. Later

Vic Sage Apr 26 2013 11:26 AM Re: NFL Draft day

Vic Sage wrote: It doesn't matter that he's new, Idzik has no ability to overcome the green-and-white... no one does. It's destiny. And not the good kind. what did i tell you? WHAT DID I TELL YOU? I know they're going to screw up, but i watch anyway, just to find out how they're going to do it THIS year. Sometimes, it's overdrafting -- reaching for a much less talented player just because of positional need; Sometimes it's bad scouting -- overvaluing a complete bust; Sometimes it's bad luck -- injuries destroy a promising player's career; This one is bad management. They picked redundant players at the only positions of strength on their entire team. Look, last year's defense was mediocre, and it lost Revis, but it wasn't going to be bad this year, with some talented young players who still have upside (like 3 DLinemen Coples and Wilkerson, and K.Ellis, and linebacker Demario Davis) as well as a pro bowl CB in Cromartie and David Harris in the middle. Yes, the definitely needed an OLB/DE to rush the passer, and a safety would've been nice, considering they have a bunch of stiffs back there. But mostly we needed guys on the other side of the ball; we have maybe the worst offense in the NFL. So what does our "braintrust" do? They take 2 defensive players at the positions we needed least. AAARGGH!! Dee Milliner was a top-10 ranked player, so they didn't overdraft him at 9. But "CB" is one of the deepest positions in this years draft. They could have gotten a solid DB later. They didn't need to "replace Revis". Cromartie did that pretty well last year (to the extent it can be done by anybody) and will do that again this year. All they needed is somebody better than Kyle Wilson to play opposite Cro. They didn't need to waste the #9 pick on Milliner to do that (lets put aside his 5 surgeries, currently rehabbing a torn labrum). Who was available? WARMACK! A dominating, pro-bowl type, plug-and-play Offensive Guard who would immediately help the running game and keep Sanchez out of Mangold's ass. There were 2 great OGs available in this year's draft, and one of them was there and waiting for us to pick him and we didn't. FUCK! Okay, so i'm thinking maybe they'll make it up to me with the 13th pick. At that point, all i wanted them to do was trade their pick and get some extra picks in the 2nd and 3rd. But they didn't (maybe they tried but couldn't; based on what other teams got when they traded down, it probably wasn't worth it to them). So who's available? Well, the best OLs were mostly gone at that point, and so the skill players were not worth taking because without an O-line, they're worthless. So, we're going to have to double down on D. FUCK! I'm going to get out of the 1st round without an O-player yet again! what is this, like the 10,000th time we haven't tried to draft a premiere offensive player? Alright, so we're going D. Well, we still need a pass rusher off the edge, either at DE or (preferably) at LB, since we have only 2 decent LBs and they don't rush the passer, and plenty of DLs. So who's still on the board? Why Jarvis Jones is sitting right there... the best OLB pass rusher still available, and rated to go in this general range of the draft, so they wouldn't be overdrafting for need. He's not Dion or Mingo, but he'll do. And the #13 pick is.... SHELDON RICHARDSON, DT. Yup. That's right. They took yet another DT, a guy who plays the SAME POSITION as the only 2 other good players they have defense, meaning at least 1 of them (or all of them) will get reduced playing time or have to play out of position. And he wasn't even the best DL available at the time! Star was still there and Sharriff had dropped (both of whom were considered top10 picks), and both of whom would be more suited to playing the NT in a 3-4 defense than is Richardson, even if that was an important slot to fill (which it wasn't). Jarvis goes a few picks later. And there i am... with 2 defensive picks at redundant positions and the worst offense in the NFL, with a crappy O-Line and no pass rush, leaving the first round no better than i arrived. My brother called me after the first pick and when i complained he said "well, you've got to give them the benefit of the doubt. They know more about these guys than you or I." Fair enough. Except what have the Jets done for the last 45 years to earn the benefit of the doubt? answer: not a fucking thing. so they don't get it from me. Then my brother called me after the 2nd pick, and he's all "what are these assholes doing?" And i'm all "what happened to the benefit of the doubt? The same assholes who just picked Richardson picked Milliner 25 minutes ago!" he hung up. The green and white... ya gotta love em, right? #9 - [crossout]Mingo[/crossout] [crossout]WArmack[/crossout] Milliner, CB #13 - [crossout]Warmack[/crossout] [crossout]Jones[/crossout] Richardson, DT

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 26 2013 12:19 PM Re: NFL Draft day

To be fair, Richardson is athletic/explosive enough to play 3- or 5-technique; if he gets a little better at shedding blocks, he might actually be able to play a little end. Milliner over Warmack, though? Yeah... I don't know. Maybe they figure, if Sanchez gets hit hard enough, maybe his brain will get jogged so that he actually becomes MORE accurate?

Ashie62 Apr 26 2013 12:52 PM Re: NFL Draft day

I'm hoping Sanchez's replacement gets picked tonight. The Jets are basically an expansion team right now....most picks will work Milliner scares the shit out of me with his medical profile..

Vic Sage Apr 26 2013 12:58 PM Re: NFL Draft day

good player; wrong pick.

Vic Sage Apr 26 2013 01:03 PM Re: NFL Draft day

Ashie62 wrote: I'm hoping Sanchez's replacement gets picked tonight. The Jets are basically an expansion team right now....most picks will work Milliner scares the shit out of me with his medical profile.. i hope they have the patience to wait til NEXT year to pick a QB, when there will better ones available. None of this year's crew inspires my confidence that any of them are more than 50/50 to be productive nfl QBs, much less franchise QBs. I would've been ok with them using a 3rd or 4th R pick on a Zac Dysert or Matt Scott, if we had filled our needs in the 1st round. But we didnt. so now we're going to have to get a TE, a OL, a OLB, a safety, and got help us, some fucking receivers, all before we consider a QB from among this motley bunch.

Ashie62 Apr 26 2013 05:39 PM Re: NFL Draft day

Geno is the pick and he is crying.. and probably not for the last time as a J-E-T..

Fman99 Apr 26 2013 08:03 PM Re: NFL Draft day

I like the Geno pick. He's got a big ass chip on his shoulder with all the negative press he's gotten. NO ONE wants to be the next Akili Smith. And I like Garrard suddenly as the mentor/experienced backup type.

Ashie62 Apr 26 2013 09:14 PM Re: NFL Draft day

I like it also....Nassib is still on the board..

Ashie62 Apr 27 2013 10:18 AM Re: NFL Draft day

The Patriots seem to be committed to drafting the Rutgers secondary...Duron Harmon...projected 476 overall by Rivals goes in the third..

Swan Swan H Apr 27 2013 11:03 AM Re: NFL Draft day

Nassib is drafted by New York - the Giants, that is, where he will probably not be the opening day starter.

seawolf17 Apr 27 2013 04:08 PM Re: NFL Draft day

HOLY HELL WILL SOMEONE FRICKING DRAFT MIGUEL MAYSONET ALREADY!?!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 27 2013 04:25 PM Re: NFL Draft day

At this point, since the Jets passed in the 7th (because they've suddenly gained a lot of confidence in their castoff-loaded backfield?), I'm hoping he doesn't get drafted.

Ashie62 Apr 27 2013 06:01 PM Re: NFL Draft day

Congrats to RU Coaches Flood and Schiano for placing seven today...wtg..

seawolf17 Apr 27 2013 06:21 PM Re: NFL Draft day

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NFL

seawolf17 Apr 27 2013 07:25 PM Re: NFL Draft day

Word on the twitters is that Maysonet signed with the Eagles, making Philly a little bit of Stony Brook South, considering we've a guy on the Wings (lacrosse) and on the Union (soccer). WR Kevin Norrell also tweeted that he signed with the Bills.

MFS62 Apr 28 2013 07:52 AM Re: NFL Draft day

For a team that brought in a new OC who specializes in the West Coast Offense, the Jets seemed to load up on guys more suited to ground and pound. Very curious. To run the WCO, they still need receivers who can get open, catch the ball, and deliver yards after the catch. Later

Nymr83 Apr 28 2013 08:59 AM Re: NFL Draft day

The Jets SUCK and have needs everywhere. Given the depths of their suckiness they were best suited taking whoever they felt was the best talent on the board and not reaching to fill needs. I can't say I'm unhappy with the draft.

seawolf17 Apr 28 2013 09:05 AM Re: NFL Draft day

It only struck me this morning that not only did neither of guys sign with the home teams, they both signed with division rivals. SUCK IT, Jets and Giants.

Ashie62 Apr 28 2013 11:47 AM Re: NFL Draft day

Story on Maysonet.. [url]http://www.newsday.com/sports/college/stony-brook/miguel-maysonet-signs-free-agent-deal-with-eagles-1.5152838 Philly drafted no RB's and I would think the new coach can use him ala Brian Westbook...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 28 2013 08:14 PM Re: NFL Draft day

Philly has two guys that more than fill that role (see: starter Lesean McCoy, explosive backup/fill-in Bryce Brown); more likely, he's practice-squad material unless he can distinguish himself on special teams. That the Jets didn't sign him or any of the more interesting leftover skill-position guys grinds my gears like it was a 15-year-old trying to learn stick.

Frayed Knot Apr 28 2013 08:16 PM Re: NFL Draft day

Is the draft over yet or are they still going?

MFS62 Apr 29 2013 07:29 AM Re: NFL Draft day

The Jets released Tim Tebow. Halleluya! Later

RealityChuck Apr 29 2013 08:12 AM Re: NFL Draft day Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 29 2013 12:04 PM

The Jets never knew what to do with Tebow, who could only have been effective if the team designed their offense around him. And to me, the worst play of last year was not the butt fumble, but when Sanchez threw a perfect pass to Tebow at WR and it hit him in the back of his helmet.

Vic Sage Apr 29 2013 09:27 AM Re: NFL Draft day

Draft analysis: Round1 = #9 - Milliner, DB: Instead of taking a CB with their 1st pick (one with 5 surgeries, who will start the season on the PUP list), the depth at that position in this draft would've allowed them to get a quality CB in the 2nd or even 3rd Round. We're not looking to replace Revis (we can't), but Cromartie was an all-pro last year in that position. so all we needed was a CB better than Kyle Wilson on the other side. And there were guys like Jonathan Banks who would've (and were) available later. Particularly when there is a potential All-Pro OG like Warmack just sitting there, where they could've gotten value AND filled a most pressing need. Pick #13: Richardson, DT: good player, good value, wrong position. 3 of the last 4 years, they've drafted this position and they still don't have an outside rush. Jarvis Jones was there to provide that; if they thought he was not good enough, they could've taken Eifert (TE), another position of dire need and the best TE in the draft, and waited til the 2nd R to get a guy like Tank Carradine (DE) to provide outside pressure. Or better, traded down and get another pick or 2. Round2= #39 - Geno Smith, QB: like the 1st 2 picks, a value pick but not necessarily the right one. If the Jets braintrust (and i use that term loosely) thinks that Smith has a very good chance to be a franchise QB who can lead a team deep into the playoffs, then i guess this is fine. Surely Sanchez isn't that guy anymore. I would've preferred they waited another round and took a flyer on Mike Glennon, or the round after that they could've had Nassib, which some draftniks ranked ahead of Smith. I would've preferred either a pass-rusher or CB (whichever we didn't draft in round 1). Round3= #72 - Winters, OG - Because we didn't take Warmack, they took Winters here. And again, good value, and this time the right player. Of course if they had taken Warmack and Eifert, they could've gone OLB, WR or Safety here (instead of not taking them in the draft at all) Round4= Trade: Chris Ivory, RB - Jets traded their 4th pick for someone reputed to be a quality (if oft-injured) RB. I'm ok with this; a player in the league whose shown ability is better than a mid-round pick who you're just guessing about. Round5 = #141 Oboushi, OG: Trying to make up for the lack of Warmack by drafting quantity over quality, we double up on guards, while continuing to ignore dire needs at TE, WR, OLB and S. Round6= #178 Campbell, OG: Ditto. Except the reports on this guy aren't even good. I even heard a rumor they're going to try and turn him into a DL, because those Jets just don't have enough DLs. Round7 = #215 Bohanon, FB: We traded for a RB in the 4th, we didn't need another here. And a FB? That position practically doesn't exist in the NFL anymore. So we got value at the wrong positions with our 1st 3 picks, and a bunch of crap at the wrong positions in the last 3 picks. We got 2 useful players in the middle. And none of it will matter if Geno Smith is the real deal. But if he's not, the rest of this draft looks even worse. Grade = C- Overall, i'd say "Same Old Jets"

batmagadanleadoff Apr 29 2013 09:53 AM Re: NFL Draft day Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 29 2013 10:24 AM

Vic Sage wrote: Draft analysis: Round1 = Pick #13: ... they could've taken Eifert (TE), another position of dire need and the best TE in the draft, and waited til the 2nd R to get a guy like Tank Carradine (DE) to provide outside pressure. Or better, traded down and get another pick or 2. The Niners, needing a TE after FA Delanie Walker signed with the Titans, drafted Rice TE Vance McDonald in the third round. They wanted McDonald all along, implying that Vance was the top TE in this year's draft. Just sayin'. Two years ago, in Harbaugh's first draft, they drafted Colin Kaepernick in the second round, and said that Colin was the best talent in the whole draft; that in a perfectly efficient draft, Colin ought to have been the first overall pick. Here are the QB's drafted ahead of Colin: (1) Cam Newton, Panthers (8) Jake Locker, Titans (10) Blaine Gabbert, Jaguars (12) Christian Ponder, Vikings (35) Andy Dalton, Bengals (36) Colin Kaepernick, 49ers (And guess who got Tank Carradine?)

Frayed Knot Apr 29 2013 10:00 AM Re: NFL Draft day

MFS62 wrote: The Jets released Tim Tebow. No doubt causing bells, whistles, and signal flares to go up over Bristol, Connecticut as a commencement to all-day coverage.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 29 2013 10:05 AM Re: NFL Draft day

Frayed Knot wrote: MFS62 wrote: The Jets released Tim Tebow. No doubt causing bells, whistles, and signal flares to go up over Bristol, Connecticut as a commencement to all-day coverage. The TV is turned on to the NFL Network channel. It's on as background, mainly. I'm not watching closely. And I swear that they're running with this Tebow story for, it seems like, 40 or 50 minutes straight. I never heard of so much fuss for a backup cut; a guy that no one else apparently wants because the Jets can't even get a 7th round draft pick two years down the line for this guy.

Nymr83 Apr 29 2013 11:17 AM Re: NFL Draft day

There are 32 teams that don't think Tebow is a quarterback at the NFL level, but apparently the Jets were told by other teams that Tebow refuses to try other spots for them too (Jets allowed him or his people to talk to them) So I guess he wants to play in the CFL or not at all?

Frayed Knot Apr 29 2013 12:25 PM Re: NFL Draft day

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: MFS62 wrote: The Jets released Tim Tebow. No doubt causing bells, whistles, and signal flares to go up over Bristol, Connecticut as a commencement to all-day coverage. The TV is turned on to the NFL Network channel. It's on as background, mainly. I'm not watching closely. And I swear that they're running with this Tebow story for, it seems like, 40 or 50 minutes straight. I never heard of so much fuss for a backup cut; a guy that no one else apparently wants because the Jets can't even get a 7th round draft pick two years down the line for this guy. Some ESPN producer went on air with Dan Patrick (now doing sports talk under the NBC umbrella) some time last year and let slip that the suits in Bristol had put out the word to the producers of their various TV & radio shows that there was no such thing as too much Tebow. Now you'd think that over the past year that some of that would have diminished as T.T. slipped further away from his Heisman years and from the story he had (briefly) been in Denver, but saturation coverage of him seems to still be a matter of reflex even as his football career has slipped into near total irrelevancy.

MFS62 Apr 29 2013 09:19 PM Re: NFL Draft day

ESPN must be pissed at Jason Collins for interrupting their Tebow time. Later

batmagadanleadoff Apr 30 2013 01:37 PM Re: NFL Draft day

With the third pick of the 2014 NFL draft .... the New York Jets select .... Marquise Lee, Wide Receiver, The University of Southern California. 3. New York Jets: Marquise Lee, WR, Southern California Whether it's Geno Smith or Mark Sanchez taking the snaps this year for the Jets, they'll quickly realize Jeremy Kerley is not a No. 1 wide receiver. Although Lee doesn't have incredible size, his hands are peerless and he's a stellar route runner. http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-draft/ ... ad-the-way

batmagadanleadoff Apr 30 2013 01:45 PM Re: NFL Draft day

With the second pick of the 2014 NFL draft .... the New York Jets select .... Jadeveon Clowney, Defensive End, The University of South Carolina. 2. I slotted a quarterback to the Jets in my 2014 NFL Mock Drafts prior to the 2013 NFL Draft, but they definitely won't go in that direction now that Geno Smith is on the roster. Instead, they'll go with the top defensive prospect in an incredibly long time. Jadeveon Clowney is the obvious pick with quarterback not being a need. The Jets have a nice interior pass rush with Sheldon Richardson and Muhammad Wilkerson. Drafting Clowney would give them a nice bookend on the exterior with Quinton Coples. New York would suddenly go from being somewhat mediocre in terms of getting to the quarterback to being one of the best teams in the NFL in that regard. http://walterfootball.com/draft2014.php