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Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 09 2013 09:10 AM

Let's Do This.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 09 2013 01:40 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

We're going to do this... righthanded. Ruben Tejada, ss Daniel Murphy, 2b David Wright, 3b John Buck, c Justin Turner, 1b Marlon Byrd, rf Andrew Brown, lf Juan Lagares, cf Dillon Gee, rhp

Zvon May 09 2013 01:45 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Lets do that this.

Edgy MD May 09 2013 01:47 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Very righty heavy. I get Terry's Turnerlove, even if mine is not quite that strong, but I just don't get batting him fifth.

bmfc1 May 09 2013 01:52 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Tonight's game is so important, it's not televised in Pittsburgh.

Ceetar May 09 2013 01:53 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Edgy MD wrote: Very righty heavy. I get Terry's Turnerlove, even if mine is not quite that strong, but I just don't get batting him fifth. He's been hitting. that's justification enough at this point, even if you're going to ignore his reverse splits.

Ceetar May 09 2013 01:53 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

bmfc1 wrote: Tonight's game is so important, it's not televised in Pittsburgh. Ooh, nearly forgot the double-matchup. Screw all teams Pittsburgh!

Fman99 May 09 2013 02:12 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: We're going to do this... righthanded. I usually go lefty, but I can change it up for one night.

Frayed Knot May 09 2013 02:40 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: We're going to do this... righthanded. So much for Terry saying (or at least implying) that Ike was going to get the starts against all these LHPs (3 of the next 4 games I believe) to see how he fared.

Edgy MD May 09 2013 03:03 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

They could have gone all righthanded by putting Recker at first and Turner at second. The Buccos, interestingly enough, end up quite the opposite, with an all-righthanded bench.

Ashie62 May 09 2013 03:43 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Dillon Gee...act as if you deserve an MLB starting spot. I like the lineup..

Zvon May 09 2013 05:18 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Fman99 wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: We're going to do this... righthanded. I usually go lefty, but I can change it up for one night. I have the ability to use whichever hand isn't holding the remote.

Swan Swan H May 09 2013 05:46 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

The second-most arrogant Ump in baseball just cost the Mets a baserunner. Bite me, Joe West.

Zvon May 09 2013 05:46 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Shit. Turner was safe, called out trying to stretch a single to a double. Too close to complain, and a bad gamble. Byrds sac fly plates Bucky. 1-0 Mets.

Ashie62 May 09 2013 05:46 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Buck scores on Byrd'd sac fly. I coulda scored the Snider airmailed that one..tee-hee

bmfc1 May 09 2013 05:50 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Swan Swan H wrote: The second-most arrogant Ump in baseball just cost the Mets a baserunner. Bite me, Joe West. Another horrible call by an umpire. Nothing from Shorty and nothing from the writers on Twitter. It's like bad calls are an accepted part of the game and there's nothing that can be done.

Zvon May 09 2013 05:55 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

bmfc1 wrote: Swan Swan H wrote: The second-most arrogant Ump in baseball just cost the Mets a baserunner. Bite me, Joe West. Another horrible call by an umpire. Nothing from Shorty and nothing from the writers on Twitter. It's like bad calls are an accepted part of the game and there's nothing that can be done. That wasn't a horrendously bad call. And its possible Turner lost contact with the bag for a milisec (his first toe touch beat the tag, which was high). Not defending West. Just sayin.

Edgy MD May 09 2013 06:01 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

This Pitty team likes to run the bases.

bmfc1 May 09 2013 06:01 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

No, it wasn't Angel Hernandez bad but it was wrong and Joe West is paid to get the call right. I'm sick of hearing about "the human element" and how it's "part of the game." If they don't do their job right, fire them. The Mets are bad enough on their own without Joe West and Tim McLelland hurting them.

Zvon May 09 2013 06:02 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Are we gonna give it right back? Are we? Really?

Zvon May 09 2013 06:04 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

No! A pleasant surprise.

Edgy MD May 09 2013 06:11 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Not that big a surprise. Check out Buckles hitting it hard the other way.

Edgy MD May 09 2013 06:17 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Not particularly hard-hit hits for the Bucs. Double play finishes them here.

Edgy MD May 09 2013 06:22 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

"My name is Justin Turner. Specialty: Gettin' on base and cream pies."

Zvon May 09 2013 06:24 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

He'd be a starter on my softball team. Keep gettin that boy at bats!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 09 2013 06:40 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Andrew Brown brings to mind very fond thinkery about Cowbell.

Zvon May 09 2013 06:49 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Maybe a half a cup of coffee will make this a nail-biter. *yawn*

Zvon May 09 2013 06:54 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

First and third for the Bucs, no out. Bear down Gee.

Swan Swan H May 09 2013 06:59 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Well, this got sticky in a hurry.

Frayed Knot May 09 2013 06:59 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Had a feeling coming in to this inning that it wasn't going to end well. That the Noffense is leaving the hurlers with no margin for error isn't helping things.

Zvon May 09 2013 07:03 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Damn. Well, I figured Cutch was gonna score no matter what. Keep it tied Lyon. Nice block by Buck.

Swan Swan H May 09 2013 07:04 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Lyon getting it done so far. One more to go.

Fman99 May 09 2013 07:05 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Nice work there by Lyon.

Frayed Knot May 09 2013 07:08 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Now the only problem is that NYM hitters have practically a tabula rasa against this Locke guy

Zvon May 09 2013 07:09 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Damn. Are all these Pirates faaaaast?

Zvon May 09 2013 07:11 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Can't say Buck isn't takin his cuts.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 09 2013 07:11 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

I think Down Town Brown is gonna clobber this palooka next time. Just need Tyrna to get it started.

Zvon May 09 2013 07:14 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

I like the coverage about the hitting charts earlier. You see that, with Wright? That was like spying on them.

Ashie62 May 09 2013 07:19 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

I was hoping the tweaked lineup would help tonight. It really sucks that you get a decent outing by someone other than Harvey and these mugs cant back him up..

Ashie62 May 09 2013 07:24 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Scott Rice earns some suds...

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 09 2013 07:24 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

That was good Rice. That was like Paella.

Zvon May 09 2013 07:24 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Wow. Rice is very very nice.

Fman99 May 09 2013 07:30 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

It's about time this mook got a hit. LGM YYY BBB

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 09 2013 07:31 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 09 2013 07:33 PM

Zvon May 09 2013 07:31 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Or Brown can get it started against these bums, seee.

Swan Swan H May 09 2013 07:34 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Blinky!

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 09 2013 07:34 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Whoa, an Ike Davis xtra base hit.

Fman99 May 09 2013 07:34 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Is Ike allowed to do that? I thought RBI's by him were banned in the last collective bargaining agreement.

Zvon May 09 2013 07:34 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

That was big Ike. That was HUGE.

Edgy MD May 09 2013 07:35 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Not to look a gift RBI in the mouth, but Davis' butt still seemed to fly out there.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 09 2013 07:35 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

All over the place.

Zvon May 09 2013 07:35 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Get that run in T. Keep it goin.

Zvon May 09 2013 07:38 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Well, we'll take it. But one run, I fear, will not be enough.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 09 2013 07:43 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 09 2013 07:44 PM

I was kinda hoping Plastic Man (Every-Minute Rice?) would stick around for another inning.

Fman99 May 09 2013 07:44 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Oh, fudge.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 09 2013 07:44 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

whoops.

Swan Swan H May 09 2013 07:44 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 09 2013 07:47 PM

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I was kinda hoping Plastic Man (Every-Minute Rice?) would stick around for another inning. Your fear is well founded. OE: meant to quote Zvon. I blame my phone.

Lefty Specialist May 09 2013 07:45 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Boy, that fastball was Right. Down. Broadway.

Zvon May 09 2013 07:49 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I was kinda hoping Plastic Man (Every-Minute Rice?) would stick around for another inning. I would have liked to have seen that. Til he hits a bump. They never do that anymore. And they should. If three innings is gonna make or break a guy wtf is he doin in the majors?

Swan Swan H May 09 2013 07:50 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

I smell a couple of runs.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 09 2013 07:52 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 09 2013 07:53 PM

From us? Maybe, but if I had to bet a kidney either way at this point, I'd bet on the scruffy sailors-- Melancon and his ilk are good, and their outfield can take away gappers.

Ashie62 May 09 2013 07:53 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Come on Sugarpants!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 09 2013 07:54 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

That's a something.

Swan Swan H May 09 2013 07:54 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Boy, Muffy is in the tall grass.

Edgy MD May 09 2013 07:54 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Let's not run here. I don't like Martin, but I respect his arm.

Ashie62 May 09 2013 07:55 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Earn your time Doo Dah!

Zvon May 09 2013 07:56 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

That Buck pitcher looks snarky. Snarky, seee?

Ashie62 May 09 2013 07:57 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Doo Dah is an Amish clod.. Apologies to the Amish and clods...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 09 2013 07:58 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

"You don't want to run yourself out of an inning with a guy like Buck's bat up there." Why do both the TV and radio teams persist in talking about Buck like he's something other than a guy with streaky power, a .410 lifetime slugging number, and virtually nothing else offensively?

Frayed Knot May 09 2013 07:58 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

My first memory of Mark Malancon was from back when he was a Yanqui farmhand and Suzyn Waldman was telling everyone how great he was going to be. She of course knew that because the Yanquis had told her so even though she was passing it off as if it was her independent opinion. That was like 8 years and 4 organizations ago.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 09 2013 08:00 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Swan Swan H wrote: Boy, Muffy is in the tall grass. Yup, he looks like he's fighting for his life just taking a pitch. Crud, leadoff single.

Ashie62 May 09 2013 08:01 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: "You don't want to run yourself out of an inning with a guy like Buck's bat up there." Why do both the TV and radio teams persist in talking about Buck like he's something other than a guy with streaky power, a .410 lifetime slugging number, and virtually nothing else offensively? I might have pinch hit for Buck..

Zvon May 09 2013 08:03 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

I say Bobby does not allow a run this inning. I saw some giddyup on his fastball.

Fman99 May 09 2013 08:05 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Solid glove work there by Tejada.

Edgy MD May 09 2013 08:05 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

That was Tejada being better than average.

Ashie62 May 09 2013 08:06 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Nice dancing by Tejada

Zvon May 09 2013 08:06 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

YEA! I did not think T was gonna get him at second.

Edgy MD May 09 2013 08:06 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Plate appearance of the night here.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 09 2013 08:07 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Finish him, Grizzly.

Ashie62 May 09 2013 08:08 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Long AB here

Ashie62 May 09 2013 08:08 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Never a doubt!!!

Fman99 May 09 2013 08:09 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

KAPOOYA

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 09 2013 08:09 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Wow, 2 great plays that inning. Now let's get Bobby Pee his 4th win!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 09 2013 08:09 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

CLAP YOUR HANDS SAY JUAN LAGARES

Edgy MD May 09 2013 08:09 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Fuck it, John Stearns. I've got a new 12.

Zvon May 09 2013 08:09 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 09 2013 08:11 PM

OH! Wow. What a catch.

Frayed Knot May 09 2013 08:09 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Well, the deep OF giveth, and the deep OF taketh away.

Ashie62 May 09 2013 08:11 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

One run..here...now...

Edgy MD May 09 2013 08:12 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Grilli is gonna look silli.

Zvon May 09 2013 08:12 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

When I least expect it, Byrd surprises me. And I least expect it, so...

Ashie62 May 09 2013 08:14 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

YES!!!!

Zvon May 09 2013 08:14 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

lol, beating that throw did surprise me.

Edgy MD May 09 2013 08:14 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Mets like to run the bases too.

Ashie62 May 09 2013 08:15 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Downtown Brown..doin the bunt tang..

Fman99 May 09 2013 08:15 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

OK, two shots to get it here, Byrd bunted up to second by Brown.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 09 2013 08:16 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Frayed Knot wrote: Well, the deep OF giveth, and the deep OF taketh away. Was grumbling to myself a little when the leadoff single dropped in front of him. WAS.

Fman99 May 09 2013 08:17 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

AWESOME

Ashie62 May 09 2013 08:18 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

BOOKS

Frayed Knot May 09 2013 08:18 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Well, the deep OF giveth, and the deep OF taketh away. Was grumbling to myself a little when the leadoff single dropped in front of him. WAS. As was I Don't mind the 'no doubles' idea in concept but, like Ronnie said, sometimes teams over-do it.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 09 2013 08:18 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Whitestone, man. Fuckin' Whitestone.

Swan Swan H May 09 2013 08:18 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Baxter has some big white stones.

Ashie62 May 09 2013 08:18 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

That was fun!!!!

Kong76 May 09 2013 08:18 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

. [bigpurple:5e8418zl]Woo Hoo![/bigpurple:5e8418zl]

Edgy MD May 09 2013 08:18 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

I smell a pie in the oven.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 09 2013 08:18 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Well, the deep OF giveth, and the deep OF taketh away. Was grumbling to myself a little when the leadoff single dropped in front of him. WAS. I'm telling you, he is a super fielder. Hey, Baxter did it again. Bobby Pee now 4-0.

Zvon May 09 2013 08:19 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

I get it now. Baxter only steps up when everything is on the line!

Frayed Knot May 09 2013 08:19 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

OK, I'll admit to NOT wanting to PH Baxter for Lagares there ... but the pull-shift they had on him is what got that hit through.

Ashie62 May 09 2013 08:20 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

PI-ED

Zvon May 09 2013 08:21 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Bobby Pee now 4-0. Wow, that's wacky stuff.

Frayed Knot May 09 2013 08:22 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Baxter's so good I'm going to have a drink in his honor. Or maybe two. Or m ...

Edgy MD May 09 2013 08:26 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Zvon wrote: I get it now. Baxter only steps up when everything is on the line! Like.

Edgy MD May 09 2013 10:18 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Edgy MD as McCutcheon Came to the Plate in the Ninth wrote: Plate appearance of the night here.

Edgy MD May 10 2013 06:02 AM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Zvon wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Bobby Pee now 4-0. Wow, that's wacky stuff. To me, that's the way it should be. A top reliever employed most effectively shouldn't be compiling 35-50 saves, but rather 20-25 saves and 14-18 wins.

Frayed Knot May 10 2013 06:10 AM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Edgy MD wrote: Edgy MD as McCutcheon Came to the Plate in the Ninth wrote: Plate appearance of the night here. Turned out to be the glove appearance of the night too. We have, among other things, been getting 'out-gloved' lately, particularly in the OF

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 10 2013 07:39 AM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

That's why you all have to drop what you're doing and join me on the Lagares Bandwagon. Unless or until his hitting is sustainably atrocious (talking 75-100 more ABs), he's got to be, with apologies to Jordany Valdespin, the Man Right Now.

Ceetar May 10 2013 07:45 AM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: That's why you all have to drop what you're doing and join me on the Lagares Bandwagon. Unless or until his hitting is sustainably atrocious (talking 75-100 more ABs), he's got to be, with apologies to Jordany Valdespin, the Man Right Now. Duda, Lagares, Baxter, mix in Brown and Byrd as needed, dump Valdespin for Satin.

Edgy MD May 10 2013 08:44 AM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

I'm in no hurry to dump Valdespin for Satin.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 10 2013 08:46 AM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Yeah, crazy to dump Valdespin for Satin, we don;t need another RH hitter and besides Muffy looks like he could use a blow at 2B.

Ceetar May 10 2013 08:55 AM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Yeah, crazy to dump Valdespin for Satin, we don;t need another RH hitter and besides Muffy looks like he could use a blow at 2B. I don't like Jordany as an infielder and I don't like Turner as the 4-position backup either. Satin is hitting, but sure, grab a lefty.

Frayed Knot May 10 2013 10:57 AM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Ceetar wrote: I don't like Jordany as an infielder Neither do I full-time, but no one is asking him to be full-time there. and I don't like Turner as the 4-position backup either. As long as he's hitting .350 (.378 actually) I like my Turner anywhere I can get him. Five positions, btw, including LF the other night. Satin is hitting, but sure, grab a lefty. Brown was hitting when we called him up too, as was Lagares.

Edgy MD May 10 2013 11:04 AM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

I imagine if Satin was bouncing around the diamond for the Mets, you wouldn't like him at any of those positions either.

Ceetar May 10 2013 11:24 AM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Edgy MD wrote: I imagine if Satin was bouncing around the diamond for the Mets, you wouldn't like him at any of those positions either. My point is I'm tired of carrying extra bad outfielders and want a second backup infielder. I'd prefer a lefty and a MI, but we don't really have that.

Edgy MD May 10 2013 11:30 AM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

And my point is that, as tired as you may be, Satin probably isn't much of an improvement on Valdespin as the second backup infielder, seeing as they've been burying him at first most of the last two years.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 10 2013 11:45 AM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

I'd add that's it's way too soon to dismiss Lagares and Brown as "bad outfielders" and Jordany for all his whackiness has a lot of ability, that's plain to see. As I said above (I think), I'd be in favor of investing another 100 PAs in Lagares as the "regular" CF, with Jordany and Baxter getting occasional starts in CF and RF, respectively. Brown is on the shakiest ground I'd say. He's got to prove he can hit and trump Byrd's "veteraness" to stick as anything more than a PH. He's also be wise to leave a first baseman's glove with his name on it somewhere where Terry can find it.

Swan Swan H May 10 2013 11:56 AM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Ceetar wrote: Edgy MD wrote: I imagine if Satin was bouncing around the diamond for the Mets, you wouldn't like him at any of those positions either. My point is I'm tired of carrying extra bad outfielders and want a second backup infielder. I'd prefer a lefty and a MI, but we don't really have that. Valdespin has played nearly as many games at 2B as Satin during their minor league careers, with a significantly higher range factor. Valdy has also played over 140 games at SS, to 2 for Satin. And, he's a lefthanded hitter. Hey, I think I found your lefty MI.

Ceetar May 10 2013 12:07 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

That's fine, but you don't need both of them, and no matter if they're burying Satin or not, he's hit more than enough in AAA to be given a legitimate shot too( yes yes, he's 28 and no longer a prospect). Lagares has barely played there. But that's the OF thing. I'm not sure Jordany has talent. He has athleticism, which isn't the same thing. It can certainly have value in places, and the high-power/low-success PH role isn't a horrible thing, but It's not worth that much either. but even if you want to go by performance Baxter has enough time here to warrant more playing time, and he's been an above replacement level outfielder, which is apparently hard to come by on this team. You don't need Byrd, Brown, AND Lagares. Juan's probably the most 'prospect' of them, the fastest, and the best defender. Let Valdespin back him up in center. fine. But you don't need both Byrd and Brown then. Josh Satin bats righty, but if he's backing up Murphy and Ike that's fine. (except, like Turner he hits righties better. Valdespin may have range, but he seems to be a poor defender. And both times they had the option they went with Turner over him anyway.

Benjamin Grimm May 10 2013 12:14 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

I agree with Johnny. Let Lagares play for a while. The Mets will have at least two outfield positions to fill for 2014, and we might as well use 2013 as a laboratory to figure out what the internal options are. Marlon Byrd isn't at all likely to be a starting outfielder on the next Mets contending team even if, as hoped, that happens as soon as next year. Of course, the other factor here is that Terry probably feels that he needs to "win now" to keep his job so he may be more motivated to think short term in a season where the focus is probably better placed on the longer term. Is that a reason to either extend or fire Terry right now? I'm not sure, but maybe.

Edgy MD May 10 2013 12:16 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Ceetar wrote: That's fine, but you don't need both of them, and no matter if they're burying Satin or not, he's hit more than enough in AAA to be given a legitimate shot too( yes yes, he's 28 and no longer a prospect). Lagares has barely played there. But that's the OF thing. I'm not sure Jordany has talent. He has athleticism, which isn't the same thing. It can certainly have value in places, and the high-power/low-success PH role isn't a horrible thing, but It's not worth that much either. but even if you want to go by performance Baxter has enough time here to warrant more playing time, and he's been an above replacement level outfielder, which is apparently hard to come by on this team. You don't need Byrd, Brown, AND Lagares. Juan's probably the most 'prospect' of them, the fastest, and the best defender. Let Valdespin back him up in center. fine. But you don't need both Byrd and Brown then. Josh Satin bats righty, but if he's backing up Murphy and Ike that's fine. (except, like Turner he hits righties better. Valdespin may have range, but he seems to be a poor defender. And both times they had the option they went with Turner over him anyway. You really threw it all in there. Benjamin Grimm wrote: Marlon Byrd isn't at all likely to be a starting outfielder on the next Mets contending team even if, as hoped, that happens as soon as next year. F. that. The contender is right before your EYEZZ, baby.

Ceetar May 10 2013 12:21 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Edgy MD wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: Marlon Byrd isn't at all likely to be a starting outfielder on the next Mets contending team even if, as hoped, that happens as soon as next year. F. that. The contender is right before your EYEZZ, baby. And Marlon Byrd probably STILL isn't part of it.

Edgy MD May 10 2013 12:23 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

We keep changing issues here. Who is being lobbied for now?

Ceetar May 10 2013 12:38 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Edgy MD wrote: We keep changing issues here. Who is being lobbied for now? A more logically selected roster that features two backup infielders and better overall coverage and less redundancy in the outfield. Baxter and Duda stay. Ditch someone else. You don't need four other guys, particularly 3 right-handed guys. I'd keep Juan and Andrew and Jordany, but no one has a strong case for deserving to stay. Satin seems to be the only infielder in AAA hitting. Maybe you promote Flores, he's certainly got tools right?

Edgy MD May 10 2013 12:47 PM Re: Buccos at NY (N) igt 5/9/13

Campbell is hitting. They do have a second backup infielder. They just don't want to use him there unless they have to, but that's alright, because most of their infielders are getting it done, including the first backup infielder, and there's been work for him in the outfield and as a pinch-hitter, because, through no fault of his own, the team is weak there. Valdespin playing the outfield is to his credit. You don't want him in the infield, but evidence suggests that, as untrustworthy as you find his glove, Satin is actually more limited --- in talent and versatility. So is Flores. I think more logic is behind their roster than you're giving them credit for. They need more productivity from their outfield and they're trying different guys. That's logical.