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IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Swan Swan H May 13 2013 02:22 PM

The Mets visit the Cardinals, and their center fielder is a guy who's been here before: Baxter 9 Murphy 4 Wright 5 Davis 3 Duda 7 Buck 2 Ankiel 8 Tejada 6 Hefner 1

Edgy MD May 13 2013 02:23 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

I like Terry. I see a combination of capitulation and defiance in every lineup.

Ceetar May 13 2013 02:25 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

clearly he read yesterday's thread where I pointed ago Baxter is getting on base and Tejada isn't hitting so bat Mike first.

Swan Swan H May 13 2013 02:27 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Ceetar wrote: clearly he read yesterday's thread where I pointed ago Baxter is getting on base and Tejada isn't hitting so bat Mike first. Yeah, he printed it out and took it to read on the can.

Edgy MD May 13 2013 02:27 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

That's where he capitulates to reality. The cleanup slot is where he defies it. Could you be more human? I like Terry.

Edgy MD May 13 2013 02:30 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Swannie's lineup is BS. This is the lineup according to Kevin Burkhardt, indictating we have three Adam Dunns in the lineup, two of them at first and a third one at catcher. Also important to note is that we have Hitler on the mound.

Swan Swan H May 13 2013 02:35 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

In addition to the hideous penmanship, it's curious how he lists the first three slots by name (rf, 2b, 3b) then goes 3-7-2-8-6, then 'p' to wrap it up.

Swan Swan H May 13 2013 02:39 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Ankiel will be in 16, per Rubin.

batmagadanleadoff May 13 2013 02:40 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Matt Harvey wouldn't be pitching today by any chance, would he?

batmagadanleadoff May 13 2013 02:42 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Being a Met fan this year must be something like rooting for Wes Westrum's Mets in '67. One pitcher and 24 dwarfs. And even Seaver, in '67, wasn't as good as Harvey is right now.

Benjamin Grimm May 13 2013 02:44 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Swan Swan H wrote: Ankiel will be in 16, per Rubin. It would be better if he was in 2008. I don't know what the point of this is, really. It's not a move for the future, and that's the kind of move they really need to make. This one's not likely to do any harm, though, unless Ankiel takes playing time away from someone more deserving, but the Mets don't seem to have that kind of someone.

Swan Swan H May 13 2013 02:44 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Matt Harvey wouldn't be pitching today by any chance, would he? No, but I hear the Cardinals signed Glendon Rusch to play third base. Oh, and Hefner has allowed just three ER in his past two starts.

Benjamin Grimm May 13 2013 02:45 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Being a Met fan this year must be something like rooting for Wes Westrum's Mets in '67. One pitcher and 24 dwarfs. And even Seaver, in '67, wasn't as good as Harvey is right now. Coming into this season I was hoping it would be a 1983 kind of year. Instead it's smelling more like 1979.

Ceetar May 13 2013 02:48 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Benjamin Grimm wrote: This one's not likely to do any harm, though, unless Ankiel takes playing time away from someone more deserving, but the Mets don't seem to have that kind of someone. Not going to find out like this. Lagares has like 4 AB. And the guy sent down, Brown, didn't have much more. Kirk Nieuwenhuis had 16 or so and strikes out less.

Benjamin Grimm May 13 2013 02:50 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

You're right. It's better to test guys like Lagares or Nieuwenhuis, who may prove to be part of the future, than Ankiel, who's very unlikely to be.

Edgy MD May 13 2013 02:51 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Swan Swan H wrote: Ankiel will be in 16, per Rubin. It would be better if he was in 2008. I don't know what the point of this is, really. It's not a move for the future, and that's the kind of move they really need to make. This one's not likely to do any harm, though, unless Ankiel takes playing time away from someone more deserving, but the Mets don't seem to have that kind of someone. Sometimes moving to survive the present is a move for the future.

G-Fafif May 13 2013 03:06 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Benjamin Grimm wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: Being a Met fan this year must be something like rooting for Wes Westrum's Mets in '67. One pitcher and 24 dwarfs. And even Seaver, in '67, wasn't as good as Harvey is right now. Coming into this season I was hoping it would be a 1983 kind of year. Instead it's smelling more like 1979. I'm coming to believe 2013 is on the verge of establishing its own discernible, meaningful precedent, as in "oy, it's another 2013 this year!"

Ceetar May 13 2013 03:12 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

G-Fafif wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: Being a Met fan this year must be something like rooting for Wes Westrum's Mets in '67. One pitcher and 24 dwarfs. And even Seaver, in '67, wasn't as good as Harvey is right now. Coming into this season I was hoping it would be a 1983 kind of year. Instead it's smelling more like 1979. I'm coming to believe 2013 is on the verge of establishing its own discernible, meaningful precedent, as in "oy, it's another 2013 this year!" Calm before the storm. Each year is it's own year. Fun to compare in the offseason drudgery, but really unrelated to any other in any meaningful way.

batmagadanleadoff May 13 2013 03:21 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

G-Fafif wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: Being a Met fan this year must be something like rooting for Wes Westrum's Mets in '67. One pitcher and 24 dwarfs. And even Seaver, in '67, wasn't as good as Harvey is right now. Coming into this season I was hoping it would be a 1983 kind of year. Instead it's smelling more like 1979. I'm coming to believe 2013 is on the verge of establishing its own discernible, meaningful precedent, as in "oy, it's another 2013 this year!" You mean we'll be in for more of this?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 13 2013 03:44 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

If this is the calm before the storm, then the worse our actual record is-- as opposed to how the team plays, on the whole-- the better, right? (All the better to stoke the lower-reaches of the system, no?) Let's go, all Mets except the bullpen!

Ceetar May 13 2013 03:57 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: If this is the calm before the storm, then the worse our actual record is-- as opposed to how the team plays, on the whole-- the better, right? (All the better to stoke the lower-reaches of the system, no?) Let's go, all Mets except the bullpen! yes, we know all weather forecasters are always wrong. The storm may be tentatively expected next year, but it could also show up tomorrow or miss us entirely. Or end up just a drizzle instead of the hurricane that's predicted.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 13 2013 04:12 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Oh, I'm not being sarcastic, and I'm only half-kidding. If this team's going to be bad, I'd rather have them be a 60-win team with an 81-81 Pythagorean record than the other way. (Ideally, with season sweeps of the Phils, Braves, and Fish.)

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 13 2013 04:30 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Am I being too optimistic? This has been a crappy few weeks but it's all pretty understandable. Our cleanup hitter sucks and Hefner is our second best starting pitcher.

Ashie62 May 13 2013 04:31 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Hefner has pitched reasonably well...hope is allowed..

duan May 13 2013 04:54 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

this without doubt the strangest pre-game IGT experience i've had in a while. FWIW. I don't mind giving him a whirl, I think he's probably better then Brown and is only costing the same money and it isn't like Byrd, Valdy and Lagares have done enough to nail down a roster spot, so why not go through a bit of a waiver wire shuffle.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 13 2013 05:13 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Muffy has a hit already, that's a good sign.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 13 2013 05:22 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Buck whiffs with the bases loaded to end the 1st.

Swan Swan H May 13 2013 05:24 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Well, they're running up his pitch count, anyway. New guy leads off the second. Buck has hit a wall. A big, thick, cinder block wall.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 13 2013 05:31 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

The Hef is giving up the hits. 1-zip already, and nobody out.

Zvon May 13 2013 05:45 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Being a Met fan this year must be something like rooting for Wes Westrum's Mets in '67. One pitcher and 24 dwarfs. And even Seaver, in '67, wasn't as good as Harvey is right now. I'm very curious as to how many no decisions Seaver had in 67 & 68.

Zvon May 13 2013 05:48 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

2-0 Cards, now in the 2nd. The way this Lynn guy is pitching for ST Loo, we gotta be rockin his world. Can't hit balls tho, and that's all hes throwing.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 13 2013 05:51 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Weird that amid all the wildness Tejada attacks the 1st pitch. Muffy is back!

Zvon May 13 2013 05:51 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Ha. Beltran sucks. We tie it.

Swan Swan H May 13 2013 05:53 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Mets showing some spunk, here. Murph scores from second on a ball that never leaves the infield!

Zvon May 13 2013 05:53 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Muffy is back! I really didn't think he was gonna come through there. He ripped it. Wow. Another wacky play and we take the lead.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 13 2013 05:53 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Swan Swan H wrote: Mets showing some spunk, here. Murph scores from second on a ball that never leaves the infield! Mookish

Edgy MD May 13 2013 05:56 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Keith skips the Pirate series and comes back as dour as if he sat through it.

Swan Swan H May 13 2013 05:57 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Ike hits it hard, but right at Jay. 3-2 Mets, and Lynn has thrown 55 pitches in two innings. Lynnsanity!

Zvon May 13 2013 05:58 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Swan Swan H wrote: Ike hits it hard, but right at Jay. 3-2 Mets, and Lynn has thrown 55 pitches in two innings. Lynnsanity! Lynnsuckity!

Edgy MD May 13 2013 06:00 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Edgy MD wrote: Keith skips the Pirate series and comes back as dour as if he sat through it. Keith just called Jim Edmonds "Dave Edmunds." He has my love back.

Zvon May 13 2013 06:07 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Of course we give it right back.

Edgy MD May 13 2013 06:09 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Hefner has my love back too.

Frayed Knot May 13 2013 06:11 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

This could be a lot worse right now seeing as how Hefner has essentially only retired 3 batters through 2 innings and 12 batters. He got an extra out via the Holliday DP, one more on that Fly ball DP in the 1st, and one on Lynn's sac bunt

Frayed Knot May 13 2013 06:24 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

There are three players from the last decade who Murphy could have thrown out on that play ... and all of them are named Molina.

Edgy MD May 13 2013 06:59 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

I'm thinking the universe stopped smiling on Buck since he slapped Valdespin in the face.

Edgy MD May 13 2013 07:06 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

That's 97 thrown spheres for Hef. Let him lead off the seventh?

Zvon May 13 2013 07:09 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Edgy MD wrote: That's 97 thrown spheres for Hef. Let him lead off the seventh? Tuff call w/this pen. Turners gotta lose that beard.

Edgy MD May 13 2013 07:12 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Good of Turner to strike out for him.

Edgy MD May 13 2013 07:13 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Tiebreaking run on for David with two outs. Let's do it.

Zvon May 13 2013 07:13 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Yea, leave Lynn in to face Wright. Fools.

Zvon May 13 2013 07:14 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Edgy MD wrote: Good of Turner to strike out for him. He'll never get hot with that beard cuz its a fire hazard.

Edgy MD May 13 2013 07:14 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Nup.

Zvon May 13 2013 07:15 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

The fools break Davids bat. Assholes.

Nymr83 May 13 2013 07:15 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Gary is humming Star Trek music...

Zvon May 13 2013 07:18 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Descalso looks like a giant midget. YER OUT!

Zvon May 13 2013 07:20 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

ugh. what good is he if he dont catch that?

Zvon May 13 2013 07:22 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Well, can't say we aren't seeing some interesting baseball.

Edgy MD May 13 2013 07:22 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

I'm not sure, maybe Wright should have seen that.

Nymr83 May 13 2013 07:25 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Edgy MD wrote: I'm not sure, maybe Wright should have seen that. Jeter would have been magically covering the plate there with his clutchy-ness

Frayed Knot May 13 2013 07:26 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

I was yelling at Rice to cover the plate before Buck even picked up the ball, but for some reason he never heard me.

Frayed Knot May 13 2013 07:29 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Well, so much for this game.

Zvon May 13 2013 07:30 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Nymr83 wrote: Edgy MD wrote: I'm not sure, maybe Wright should have seen that. Jeter would have been magically covering the plate there with his clutchy-ness I was gonna say something like this and then I thought better of it, as you should also have done. ;) That ball hit off Rices foot and nobody gave a shat. And Holliday muscles one out off old man Atchy. 6-3 Dedbirds

Zvon May 13 2013 07:34 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Didn't think I could hat Molina any more than I already did.

batmagadanleadoff May 13 2013 07:35 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

I think that Terry Collins asked for Nelson to come in.

Fman99 May 13 2013 07:49 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Blecch.

Frayed Knot May 13 2013 07:50 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Another game, another 9 Ks (and counting), another day with just 4 hits (and only two were deserved).

Zvon May 13 2013 07:52 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Speaking of fools, Ankiel could have made the Mets look like geniuses, if he made that catch and got a hit here or there. Instead, in front of a St Loo, crowd he makes us look like fools. Nice catch there tho.

Zvon May 13 2013 07:53 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

That giant midget has two hits tonight.

Fman99 May 13 2013 08:04 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

That sucked a big fat popsicle.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 13 2013 08:11 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

But, hey-- Greg Burke's back? This terrible team just got a little more wacky!

Zvon May 13 2013 08:15 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

JCL said it weeks ago. Too many strikeouts. This "take/see more pitches" strategy. We're good at it. It's not working as intended. They should do this only with certain players. Last years team struck out ALOT. I don't like this trend.

Edgy MD May 13 2013 10:09 PM Re: IGT 5/13/13: Mets v. Cards: Oh, Ricky, You're So Fine

Ends up making that drop using Niese's glove. Ouch. It's not the difference of inches --- the drop by Ankiel, the richochet off of Rice's foot, the ricochet off the bag the prior game --- it's that they're hitting poorly enough that they relay on those breaks to fall that way just to give themselves a chance.