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IGT 5/15/13 Mets at St. Louis Cardinals

Ceetar
May 15 2013 02:17 PM

I'm breaking the rules and starting the thread again after a loss. Gotta shake things up sometimes to break a losing streak. If you don't like it, bean me.

Shaun Marcum versus Shelby (My wife had a spider named Shelby) Miller who's coming off of a 1-hit CG shutout where he retired the last 27 to face him and struck out 13.

Benjamin Grimm
May 15 2013 02:19 PM
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Against Marcum, who has yet to get three outs in the fifth inning.

Sometimes it's possible to win a game that you just know you're going to lose.

I doubt that this is one of those games, but we can certainly hope.

Swan Swan H
May 15 2013 02:23 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
I'm breaking the rules and starting the thread again after a loss. Gotta shake things up sometimes to break a losing streak. If you don't like it, bean me.

If this doesn't work you should be sentenced to a month of nothing but Bud Light and Old Milwaukee.

Ceetar
May 15 2013 02:24 PM
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Swan Swan H wrote:
Ceetar wrote:
I'm breaking the rules and starting the thread again after a loss. Gotta shake things up sometimes to break a losing streak. If you don't like it, bean me.

If this doesn't work you should be sentenced to a month of nothing but Bud Light and Old Milwaukee.

oh crap, I'm not sure i'm willing to put that on the line. It's American Craft Beer Week you know!

*shudder*

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 15 2013 02:26 PM
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I suppose this is more civilized than sleeping with a random fat chick. I approve.

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 02:31 PM
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Marcum retired his last four in a row in his last start, before getting pulled early for Rob Carson. For all we know, hadn't he been lifted, he'd have gotten 27 in a row too. So there's that.

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 02:36 PM
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I think the guy needs a nickname:

Nominations sought. I offer...
[list:19hpm1vo][*:19hpm1vo]Magic Marcum[/*:m:19hpm1vo]
[*:19hpm1vo]The Last Resort[/*:m:19hpm1vo]
[*:19hpm1vo]S&M[/*:m:19hpm1vo][/list:u:19hpm1vo]

Swan Swan H
May 15 2013 02:41 PM
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Shaun "Proof that winning percentage is a meaningless statistic" Marcum

Shaun "I haven't checked out that new guy who replaced Ed Schultz. Let's put on MSNBC" Marcum

Shaun "I think the rain stopped. Let's go for a walk" Marcum

Shaun "Ooh... Palladia is replaying that R.E.M. concert from 2008" Marcum

Shaun "How come every time I have tickets it seems he's pitching" Marcum

Shaun "You just know they'll let him go and he'll come back and pitch seven scoreless against the Mets" Marcum

Shaun "Every time the Yankees pick up some castoff he turns out good, and we end up with stiffs like" Marcum

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 02:41 PM
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Those tend to suck. Let's get him something so awesome, he'll turn into a badass just by hearing it.

Come up with something crazy and dark metal like "The Skin of Evil."

[list=1][*]Baxter, rf[/*:m]
[*]Murphy, 2b[/*:m]
[*]Wright, 3b[/*:m]
[*]Davis, 1b[/*:m]
[*]Duda, lf[/*:m]
[*]Buck, c[/*:m]
[*]Ankiel, cf[/*:m]
[*]Tejada, ss[/*:m]
[*]S&M, sp[/*:m][/list:o] [list=1][*]Carpenter, 3b[/*:m]
[*]Beltran, rf[/*:m]
[*]Holliday, lfe[/*:m]
[*]Craig, 1b[/*:m]
[*]Jay, cf[/*:m]
[*]Cruz, c[/*:m]
[*]Descalzo, 2b[/*:m]
[*]Kozma, ss[/*:m]
[*]Miller, p[/*:m][/list:o]

Swan Swan H
May 15 2013 02:48 PM
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OK.

Doomsymbol

Appendix Transplant

The Legionnaire

Fumes

Mucram

Shaun Uffits Marcum

metsmarathon
May 15 2013 02:51 PM
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shaun "on a blue dress" marcum

or simply: blue dress marcum.

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 02:52 PM
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I'll go with Doomsymbol.

Lefty Specialist
May 15 2013 03:17 PM
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Shaun of the Dead.

Ceetar
May 15 2013 03:22 PM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
Shaun of the Dead.

you've got red on you.

vtmet
May 15 2013 03:28 PM
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by the law of averages, you would think that they'll accidentally win a couple games eventually...as badly as this team has played in recent years, they still haven't been bad enough to "earn" a top draft pick...

Since after the 1982 draft when the Mets picked Gooden with an overall #5 draft pick, the Mets draft pick record with better than an overall #10 pick:
2010: Harvey (7th);
2005: Pelfrey (9th);
2004: Phil Humber (3rd);
1997: Geoff Goetz (6th);
1994: Paul Wilson (1st);
1993: Kirk Presley (8th);
1992: Preston Wilson (9th);
1984: Shawn Abner (1st);
1983: Eddie Williams (4th);

That's 9 top 10 picks in 31 years with only 5 playoff seasons in that timeframe...and only 2 of those picks actually semi-panned out at the MLB level (Preston and Harvey)...

vtmet
May 15 2013 03:33 PM
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I know that average wise, Valdy isn't doing much but then again, nobody else is either...apparently he really screwed the pooch by hitting that 9th inning HR; since he's now gone 5 games without a start since then...

Ceetar
May 15 2013 03:33 PM
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well Pelfrey panned out, just not as an ace, but those are the breaks.

They probably won't have a great pick next year either, but hopefully they can still improve.

Ashie62
May 15 2013 04:13 PM
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Tonight should be a hoot..

G-Fafif
May 15 2013 04:35 PM
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L Marcum's The Spot

Or, alternately, eL Shaun.

batmagadanleadoff
May 15 2013 05:26 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
well Pelfrey panned out, just not as an ace, but those are the breaks.

Those aren't the breaks. The Mets have sucked at drafting players over the last generation and its pretty well known. It's not just because of good old random breaks why they've finished in first place in a five or six team division just once in the last 25 years. There's something foul and rotten at the top of this franchise. Is it your job to always defend against every negative thing about the Mets? Are we supposed to believe that the Mets have been a model franchise of perfection throughout this period?

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 06:09 PM
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So, the draft isn't just some random crapshoot that's not worth analyzing or working yourself up over?

Ceetar
May 15 2013 06:22 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Ceetar wrote:
well Pelfrey panned out, just not as an ace, but those are the breaks.

Those aren't the breaks. The Mets have sucked at drafting players over the last generation and its pretty well known. It's not just because of good old random breaks why they've finished in first place in a five or six team division just once in the last 25 years. There's something foul and rotten at the top of this franchise. Is it your job to always defend against every negative thing about the Mets? Are we supposed to believe that the Mets have been a model franchise of perfection throughout this period?

What Pelfrey gave us was incredibly valuable. Not every first round pick becomes an ace. I didn't say they've been good drafting players lately, but the draft is such controlled chaos that when you get value you count that as a win.

Shelby's streak ends at 29, David Wright single up the middle.

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 06:46 PM
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That bloop single by Ankiel is the beginning of our luck turning.

Pennant coming.

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 06:49 PM
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I don't care. I'm sticking to that story.

vtmet
May 15 2013 06:50 PM
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IMO, what little success Pelfrey had was due to pitching in Shea/Citi...if he had started in a more hitter's friendly park, he wouldn't have been valuable...

Pelf's splits:
Shea: .274 batting average against; .718 OPS; 4.09 ERA; 1.374 WHIP; 10 wins; 13 losses; 10 HRs;
Citi: .261 BAA; .691 OPS; 3.41 ERA; 1.327 WHIP; 19 wins; 13 losses; 17 HRs;
Road: .307 BAA; .471 Slugging Percentage; .843 OPS; 5.37 ERA; 1.611 WHIP; 22 wins; 30 losses; 45 HRs (62.5% of his HRs allowed on the road despite his "Innings Pitched" on the road was only 43 % of his total innings);

http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... Career&t=p

His numbers in Atlanta, Philly and Florida were horrible (5th starter, if even that, horrible)...

Frayed Knot
May 15 2013 06:51 PM
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But then Buck, after a good AB, screws up his base-running which manages to:
1) kill a potential run-scoring inning
2) prevents the team from clearing the pitcher's spot in the lineup
3) and stops the run-up of pitches for Shelby Miller

Frayed Knot
May 15 2013 06:57 PM
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2 innings pitched:
Miller = 45 pitches
Marcum = 17 pitches

Take your victories where you can find them.

vtmet
May 15 2013 07:15 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
2 innings pitched:
Miller = 45 pitches
Marcum = 17 pitches

Take your victories where you can find them.

problem is though, these Mets under Sandy's directive are more obsessed with driving up a pitcher's pitch count than they are hitting the freakin' ball...

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 07:20 PM
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It's part of the game.

And beats the latter.

The Mets failed to score because of a double play on a well-struck line drive, not because they are unwilling to hit the ball. If you need a scapegoat, Knot's right. It's Huckabuck's baserunning. (If they didn't get Buck, they could have gotten Ankiel off-base also.)

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 07:21 PM
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According to St. Louis announcers, only 25 MLB players have college degrees. Carpenter and Craig representing for St. Louis.

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 07:23 PM
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It's nice to see a ballpark with the seats behind the plate filled.

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 07:24 PM
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Striking out Carpenter is not easy to do.

Marcum failing to shit bed tonight. Let's get some runzzzzZZZ.

Zvon
May 15 2013 07:25 PM
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vtmet wrote:
2 innings pitched:
Miller = 45 pitches
Marcum = 17 pitches

Take your victories where you can find them.

problem is though, these Mets under Sandy's directive are more obsessed with driving up a pitcher's pitch count than they are hitting the freakin' ball...

If they are gonna stick with that plan, they should only use this approach first time through the line up. With Wright and Davis, not at all.

I wanna say something nice about Marcums performance tonight, but I'll wait.

vtmet
May 15 2013 07:26 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
It's part of the game.

It may be part of the game but it hasn't been effective and it's as boring as when I'd watch my daughters play little league age "Fast pitch" softball and 2/3's of the kids would go up to the plate without ever attempting to swing the bat...I'd tell my kids, "I didn't pay $80 and take vacation time from work to watch you not swing the bat"...and my daughter that pitched knew that she better throw strikes otherwise I would go to the snack bar while she was pitching...

vtmet
May 15 2013 07:28 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
It's nice to see a ballpark with the seats behind the plate filled.

in most stadiums anymore you might as well put a "batter's eye" behind the plate so that the pitcher's don't notice that the good seats are going to waste...

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 07:30 PM
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vtmet wrote:
Edgy MD wrote:
It's part of the game.

It may be part of the game but it hasn't been effective and it's as boring as when I'd watch my daughters play little league age "Fast pitch" softball and 2/3's of the kids would go up to the plate without ever attempting to swing the bat...I'd tell my kids, "I didn't pay $80 and take vacation time from work to watch you not swing the bat"...and my daughter that pitched knew that she better throw strikes otherwise I would go to the snack bar while she was pitching...

I'll take effective.

Swan Swan H
May 15 2013 07:32 PM
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Buck day-to-day with a bruised nipple.

Zvon
May 15 2013 07:36 PM
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Was that a hit and run? Cuz then I can be pissed only at the new guy, who swung for the fences.

vtmet
May 15 2013 07:37 PM
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I'm not watching on tv...but...is our offense really that pathetic that we are having a 33 year old catcher with 5 career steals (and over twice as many caught stealing) trying to steal to get into scoring position?

vtmet
May 15 2013 07:38 PM
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Zvon wrote:
Was that a hit and run? Cuz then I can be pissed only at the new guy, who swung for the fences.

don't know...but Ankiel has 2 swings: "swing for the fences" and "create a breeze as the ball goes into the catcher's mitt"...

Zvon
May 15 2013 07:38 PM
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vtmet wrote:
I'm not watching on tv...but...is our offense really that pathetic that we are having a 33 year old catcher with 5 career steals (and over twice as many caught stealing) trying to steal to get into scoring position?

I can't believe that was a straight steal.

Zvon
May 15 2013 07:39 PM
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vtmet wrote:
Was that a hit and run? Cuz then I can be pissed only at the new guy, who swung for the fences.

don't know...but Ankiel has 2 swings: "swing for the fences" and "create a breeze as the ball goes into the catcher's mitt"...

Then he combined his two swings there.

Fman99
May 15 2013 07:42 PM
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And so it goes.

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 07:45 PM
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Very confused what happened there. Firstly, nothing forced that ball free.

Secondly, secondbase was uncovered --- making that the third straight game with an uncovered base.

Zvon
May 15 2013 07:51 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Very confused what happened there. Firstly, nothing forced that ball free.

Secondly, secondbase was uncovered --- making that the third straight game with an uncovered base.

Momentum. And Wright being concerned about an open second base made him run toward the base, which created the situation where he didn't just stand there and tag the guy. The runner stopped, Dave ran towards 2nd and the runner, the runner started running to third again, and the two forces met (Wrights glove/arm and the runner), ball jarred free.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 15 2013 07:53 PM
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Is there a reason Murph didn't throw home on the Jay double, or was Holliday a lot closer to home than my eyes said?

Zvon
May 15 2013 07:54 PM
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5th inning and only 3 hits. And one is by Marcum and another by the new old guy.

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 07:55 PM
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Well, I don't know, but the runner was practically arrested. And two handed tags are always a good idea.

These Cards have good fundies. Certainly better than what the Mets are showing.

Frayed Knot
May 15 2013 07:56 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Is there a reason Murph didn't throw home on the Jay double, or was Holliday a lot closer to home than my eyes said?

Bad relay by Baxter, bobbled by Murphy, bad tag by Wright
Other than that they played the whole thing quite nicely.

vtmet
May 15 2013 07:57 PM
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Zvon wrote:
5th inning and only 3 hits. And one is by Marcum and another by the new old guy.

don't worry about hits & runs, we've got the starting pitcher right where we want him with over 85 pitches in only 5 innings...

Zvon
May 15 2013 07:58 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Is there a reason Murph didn't throw home on the Jay double, or was Holliday a lot closer to home than my eyes said?

Murph didnt get a clean relay from Bax, a short hop milisec bobble. I'm not sure if he changed his mind because of the relay, or if he never was gonna throw home in the 1st place. If he was gonna go home and went to third cuz of the bobble, I gotta commend him. He didn't hesitate and came up throwing for third. I do think he lost any play at home cuz of the relay.

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 07:58 PM
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Believe me, they are swinging.

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 08:06 PM
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Lousy strike three call on Baxter. Sweet double by Murphy follows.

Get angry, Cappy.

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 08:07 PM
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Murphy getting all thefty.

I guess that the scouting report said they could steal off of this battery.

Zvon
May 15 2013 08:07 PM
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Is this wacky running just cuz Molinas on the bench?

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 08:09 PM
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I'm sure that's part of it.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 15 2013 08:10 PM
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Has to be.

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 08:10 PM
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Wright way behind that.

Bad game, Cappy.

Swan Swan H
May 15 2013 08:11 PM
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There's another one of those goddamned swings.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 15 2013 08:13 PM
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Pitch count or no, it's almost unsporting to bring in a LOOGY for Ike these days.

Zvon
May 15 2013 08:14 PM
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Shelby gets the hook. Good. With one out and a man on 3rd, Wright works a good at bat and then screws the pooch.

Swan Swan H
May 15 2013 08:21 PM
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Ol' Doomsymbol getting it done tonight.

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 08:29 PM
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Indeed. Best start by a non-Harvenian in a week or two.

Fman99
May 15 2013 08:30 PM
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KABOOM

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 15 2013 08:30 PM
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Ankeiled!

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 08:31 PM
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That's the stuff, Ankiel.

(Ancillary benefit of working the starter deep, too.)

Zvon
May 15 2013 08:31 PM
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Ankie

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 15 2013 08:32 PM
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CLAP YOUR HANDS SAY "HUH?!!!?"

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 08:32 PM
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Doomsymbol batting for himself?

Swan Swan H
May 15 2013 08:32 PM
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The expiration date is years past, but this may be the only chance I get to use this.

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 08:32 PM
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And doomcessfully too!

Fman99
May 15 2013 08:33 PM
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Zvon wrote:
Ankie

Awesome

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 08:34 PM
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A lot of well-struck lineouts tonight.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 15 2013 08:36 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Doomsymbol batting for himself?

Just 80 pitches. Plus, who on your bench is hitting better than him tonight?

Zvon
May 15 2013 08:36 PM
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Fman99 wrote:

Awesome

Thnx. I'm goin retro til these current guys stop sucking out loud.
Ankie makes the Mets look a little less foolish. Lil bit.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 15 2013 08:38 PM
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Zvon wrote:
Ankie makes the Mets look a little less foolish. Lil bit.

Well, I'm pretty sure he actually saw his HR leave the park, and paused for, like, a millisecond to smile. If I'm the Cards, I'd plunk him.

Zvon
May 15 2013 08:47 PM
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Can we PLEASE not give it right back?

Gj 2nite Marcum :) Too bad you couldn't get that last out.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 15 2013 08:49 PM
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And of course it's Rice, because, you know, it's a day when the Mets are playing baseball.

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 08:49 PM
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Wow. Lead returned to St. Louis.

Was Wiggy against Rice the matchup we really wanted?

Swan Swan H
May 15 2013 08:50 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
And of course it's Rice, because, you know, it's a day when the Mets are playing baseball.

Terry uses Rice more than Ming Tsai. And, in this case. it's wild Rice.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 15 2013 08:50 PM
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Gall dan git.

"Earned run," eh, MLB Rulebook? Have it your way.

Zvon
May 15 2013 08:53 PM
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Swan Swan H wrote:
LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
And of course it's Rice, because, you know, it's a day when the Mets are playing baseball.

Terry uses Rice more than Ming Tsai. And, in this case. it's wild Rice.

Wild Rice,ha.

Zvon
May 15 2013 08:58 PM
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Ugh, he freezes Wright for strike 3. Dave recreates the proper balance and makes us look a lil foolish. Lil bit.

Frayed Knot
May 15 2013 09:06 PM
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I really wish we'd make these muthafuckas earn their runs.

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 09:11 PM
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This game is still within Valdereach. Just need to escape this inning.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 15 2013 09:12 PM
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First walk on the season for Mr. Hawkins, in 17 innings (versus 15 Ks). But, y'know, thanks to the Murph error, it's at least not an earned walk.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 15 2013 09:13 PM
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Fucking "Fucking."

Frayed Knot
May 15 2013 09:14 PM
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First walk of the season for Hawkins, first walk of the night for Marcum ... and BOTH of them score.

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 09:14 PM
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That seemed to be hit where the secondbaseman should have been.

Hate getting beat by a guy with neck tattoos. Good pitch, catchable soft liner. Defense in the wrong place.

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 09:19 PM
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Never come out hacking when you're down by more than one in the ninth, Lucas.

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 09:23 PM
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That was a better, cleaner game than they've been playing.

Still absolutely deserved to lose.

Zvon
May 15 2013 09:26 PM
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Can't be wasting good outings from the guys we don't expect good outings from.

Mets lose

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 15 2013 09:27 PM
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Too bad it was larded with unfortunate shit like the dropped tag, the wild pitch, the unfinished DP, the 0-on, 2-out, 2-strike rally, etc etc etc

vtmet
May 15 2013 09:29 PM
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Zvon wrote:
Can't be wasting good outings from the guys we don't expect good outings from.

Mets lose

do you know what the odds are for a bad pitcher to have a good outing on the same day that a bad offense scores runs? you've got a better chance at craps in Vegas...

Mets have the 2nd lowest batting average in Major League Baseball at .227 (and how many of those hits came in the first 2 weeks of the season)...and the Mets pitching staff is tied for 4th highest "batting average against" at .267 (and that's with Harvey/Parnell combining to only allow 36 hits in 72+ innings)...simple arithmetic says that when Harvey isn't pitching, we most likely have almost no chance of competing, let alone winning...this team plays like the 1977 Mets when Jerry Koosman lost 20 games while pitching relatively well (the season after he won 21 games)...and now they have a lefty version of Dave Kingman at 1st and a lefty version of Dave Kingman in Center...

vtmet
May 15 2013 09:53 PM
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I think that I was being a little harsh on the 1977 Mets...as bad as that offense was, they still had a better batting average (.244 vs the current .227) and a better OBP (.313 OBP vs the "drive up the starter's pitch count" current team's mark of .302)...

and even the pitching staff had a much better ERA (3.77 vs the current 4.59)...

this team could use a Bruce Boisclair, a Nino Espinosa, a Skip Lockwood and a Bob Apodaca...

Edgy MD
May 15 2013 10:47 PM
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What team couldn't?

The Cardinals will cry for mercy before all is said and done.

Ceetar
May 16 2013 07:07 AM
Re: IGT 5/15/13 Mets at St. Louis Cardinals

Edgy MD wrote:
Never come out hacking when you're down by more than one in the ninth, Lucas.

No. BE MORE AGGRESSIVE ALWAYS.

Edgy MD
May 16 2013 07:44 AM
Re: IGT 5/15/13 Mets at St. Louis Cardinals

Wow, always? Really? If he gets on base, should he be stealing second and then third?

You know what a home run is worth in that situation? Exactly as much as a walk or a single or a hit batsman or an error. You get aggressive in the ninth when you are the run that matters --- the tying on go-ahead run. Until that guy comes to the plate, the job of everybody else is to not make outs.

That's good fundies.

Ceetar
May 16 2013 07:58 AM
Re: IGT 5/15/13 Mets at St. Louis Cardinals

sorry, I was being sarcastic and mocking about the people that insist Duda is too passive and (before this recent slump) his 900+ OPS was worth nothing because he had no RBI.

Edgy MD
May 16 2013 08:02 AM
Re: IGT 5/15/13 Mets at St. Louis Cardinals

Sorry. Missed that.