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IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Need U!
Zvon May 23 2013 09:59 PM |
Time to wake up.
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Swan Swan H May 24 2013 06:44 AM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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vtmet May 24 2013 08:05 AM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Time for Terry to be creative to shake things up...
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Lefty Specialist May 24 2013 08:06 AM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Can it just rain until Wheeler's ready?
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vtmet May 24 2013 09:56 AM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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but even then, you would need the other teams with potential rookies not to get rained out so that they become the "super 2's" so that the ownership group don't have to pay Wheeler one single extra penny...and even then, you would figure that Wheeler's gonna use up close to 1/2 of his allotted 2013 innings in the minors...
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 10:25 AM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
I'm really totally down on roster decisions being pinned to Super Two status.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket May 24 2013 10:46 AM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Yeah.
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Benjamin Grimm May 24 2013 10:47 AM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
I care about delaying free agency. I don't care about delaying arbitration.
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 10:55 AM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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What I'm getting at. Delaying for what? For a more affordable future? It's so damn deafeatest and limited in scope. If 2013 is fruitful, we will find a way to pay for the roster in 2018. If 2013 isn't fruitful, it won't matter how much money we save in 2018. It won't be enough. It's hard enough choosing between the needs of the team in the short term versus the needs of the player (and his ability to help the team) in the long term, when deciding whether to promote him. Adding this nebulous date that controls what he'll be paid years down the road --- IF he doesn't flame out or succumb to injury --- is folly. It over-complicates the decision, bringing in enough factors to paralyze you.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 24 2013 11:58 AM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Okay, and conversely, willfully ignoring the Super Two/team-control thing is no-impulse-control, WFAN-dum-dum thinking at ITS worst (or can be, anyway), just as limited in scope. As for the down-the-road-never-coming thing, well... I mean, hell, a lot of things can happen-- why plan at all, if you're a GM? Empty your gun, Sandy-- WE'RE NOT GETTING YOUNGER, HARVERD!
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 12:05 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
I just think, any day with a good player available to win games for you is a blessed day borrowed from eternity, and it may never be available to you again.
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Ceetar May 24 2013 12:31 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
first off, not denying it's not the reason, but that Wheeler is staying down for solely super-2 reasons feels a little "they're so broke" conspiratorial.
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Lefty Specialist May 24 2013 01:01 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Wheeler coming up tomorrow or in two months isn't going to change the trajectory of this season. Having an extra year before he hits free agency is much more valuable than a couple of weeks in 2013.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 24 2013 01:02 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
[Nods furiously, and with just as much fandom as all y'all]
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Ceetar May 24 2013 01:07 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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that's done with. All that's up in the air is whether we have to pay him in 2015 or 2016 arb money. unless it's bought out.
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 01:27 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
I agree that there are perfectly basebally reasons not to call up Wheeler. But I disagree that calling up Wheeler tomorrow vs. two months from now doesn't change the the trajectory of the season or have meaning. If he's ready, he's ready. If he can help, he can help.
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Ceetar May 24 2013 02:23 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Daniel Murphy – 2B
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Ceetar May 24 2013 02:24 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Simmons, A, SS
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 03:00 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
It's Atlanta's famed SHUFMUFUM lineup.
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Ceetar May 24 2013 03:05 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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There's a reason to keep Ike. need his vowel in the lineup to be able to make real words. And Zach Lutz? that'd be a mess.
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Zvon May 24 2013 05:11 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
One of our better starts to a game....
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Frayed Knot May 24 2013 05:19 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
By this point in the last two games we were already down 3-0 in each case - so, so far, we're off to our best start in a while.
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Zvon May 24 2013 05:24 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Its cold, clammy, windy, rainy, and grey down here in SJ. What are the odds we get this game in? (I missed if there was any intro on SNY-I just get a rain delay screen on MLB.TV)
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Zvon May 24 2013 05:27 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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Zvon May 24 2013 05:34 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Holy shit! I really hat FFreeman. He just LAUNCHED one out of Citi.
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Swan Swan H May 24 2013 05:49 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
A gift run when J. Upton and Simmons circle around a popup by Duda, who didn't really get it done with a runner on 3rd and one out.
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Zvon May 24 2013 05:50 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Murphy:HBP
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Zvon May 24 2013 05:56 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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I beg to differ. RBI single is an RBI single. Anything more would have been nice but getting that guy in from third was his job there. And he did it w/o making an out.
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Zvon May 24 2013 06:01 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Ha, thats why Ronnie called him a switch-swinger instead of switch-hitter Garr.
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 06:05 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
The low curve against Ike with two strikes was as predictable as the sun going down. The strange part is that they put it as high as his ankles, when it's a safe and sure move to bounce it off the plate.
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 06:07 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Live chat with Recker the next half inning. TAPING!
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Ashie62 May 24 2013 06:08 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
The Mets resemble a AAA team as each day goes by...
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Swan Swan H May 24 2013 06:09 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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Nothing minor league about Anthony Recker's face.
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Zvon May 24 2013 06:09 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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In Ikes defense they were all very well executed pitches. I'll give him a pass there (since his future might depend on his next group of at bats).
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Ashie62 May 24 2013 06:17 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
I'm not gonna stress on Ike anymore. I believe he will work his way to non-tenderness..
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 06:20 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
How about that aggressive baserubbing by Murphy? I thought he'd pull up with a hammie.
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 06:21 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Lucas bailing on a pitch down the middle.
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Zvon May 24 2013 06:23 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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Too many jokes in my head at once!
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 06:24 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Byrd certainly gets around on this guy.
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 06:33 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Can't argue with Hefner's breaking stuff today.
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Zvon May 24 2013 06:38 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 06:40 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
BUCK[/bigpurple]ingham!
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Zvon May 24 2013 06:40 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Ha. Now you got Davis. Swings at a bouncer for strike 3. No pass for him there. GAH!
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 06:41 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Davis: 1-40.
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Zvon May 24 2013 06:43 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
I'm not even angry about it. I'm sad.
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 06:46 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
I'm just offering commentary for context. I'm not mad. But we must document it for those who survive us.
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 06:48 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Bottom dropping out for Hefner.
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 06:51 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
We have a very winnable game here against a first place team.
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Zvon May 24 2013 06:51 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Gary on Ike's soft glove on Wed.:"of course he could have used that leather later in the game."
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 06:55 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Not sure such a whiffy guy should be our #2 hitter.
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Zvon May 24 2013 06:58 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 07:00 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
What a stat... only the 11th time Wright has swing 3-0... in his whole career.
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Zvon May 24 2013 07:00 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Gary:The 11th time in his career that Wright swung at a 3-0 pitch.
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 07:03 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
I knew Byrd had it in him. He's been getting good swings against this guy all evening.
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Zvon May 24 2013 07:04 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 07:13 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Let's get Def Hef a win here.
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Swan Swan H May 24 2013 07:15 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Huge Hefner.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 24 2013 07:15 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
McCann-do.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket May 24 2013 07:16 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Nice job by Hef tonite.
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 07:16 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Hyooj comeback against the <3 of the lineup for Hefner.
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Zvon May 24 2013 07:18 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Ike may as well take 24/7.
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 07:18 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Out after 94 pitches.
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 07:19 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
1-for-41.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 24 2013 07:20 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Hef DOES have nice stuff. It's just, when it's not on... it's out, in a hurry.
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 07:22 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
So the plan is probably somee righty and Rice for the seventh, Lyon for the eighth, and Parnell for the ninth.
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Ashie62 May 24 2013 07:24 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
I really really am pulling for Hefner..
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Ashie62 May 24 2013 07:25 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
All you need to do with Ike is get ahead and let him chase..
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 07:27 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Hawkmoon.
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Ashie62 May 24 2013 07:28 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
[bigpurple:33hh3o0q]GEEZUZ XXXXXXX[/bigpurple:33hh3o0q]
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Zvon May 24 2013 07:29 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
There goes Hefs win. Thnx Hawk.
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Ashie62 May 24 2013 07:29 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
I'm giving Hefner lotsa Schaefer....
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Ashie62 May 24 2013 07:30 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
On general principle I hope Terry Collins and Alderson both get food poisoning.
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metirish May 24 2013 07:34 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Herner deserved better obviously.....
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 07:35 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
It ain't Hef's win. It's the Mets' win. It's yours and mine and it's still out there.
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Swan Swan H May 24 2013 07:37 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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You tell 'em, Papillon.
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Frayed Knot May 24 2013 07:38 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Between innings O-o-T-S break
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Ashie62 May 24 2013 07:39 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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Really...
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Frayed Knot May 24 2013 07:40 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 24 2013 07:40 PM |
BASE HIT UP THE MIDDLE FOR MAUER!!!
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Swan Swan H May 24 2013 07:40 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
They can't get Murphy out tonight. No need to start now.
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Ashie62 May 24 2013 07:42 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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Breaks up what would have been Anibals second no no
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Ashie62 May 24 2013 07:42 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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You are half right lol
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Zvon May 24 2013 07:44 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Muffy allows them to finally get him out.
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Swan Swan H May 24 2013 07:45 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
They leave the lefty in for Wright.
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Frayed Knot May 24 2013 07:45 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
And this is how it's been going -- the one time Muffy makes an out is the one Ankiel finally gets on.
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Swan Swan H May 24 2013 07:46 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
A Piazza HBP - off the back knee (wocka wocka)
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Zvon May 24 2013 07:46 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Wright calls his own HBPs. What a badass!
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Frayed Knot May 24 2013 07:48 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Duda continues to hit with a limp-RiSP
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 07:48 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Pinch hit for Byrd with Valdespin here?
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Frayed Knot May 24 2013 07:49 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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Not if it were up to me - but I think I've been wrong about this exact question already this season.
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 07:52 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Better to use him here with two on than against the ace in the ninth, probably with none on, I think.
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Zvon May 24 2013 07:55 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Even Gary commented on it. Lets see if Shorty can pull a rabbit out of his hat.
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Zvon May 24 2013 07:56 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Gary said Mike Marshall, first baseman. <<<<***SWOON**>>>>
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Swan Swan H May 24 2013 07:57 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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Zvon May 24 2013 08:02 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Ugh. Hits against the shift and of course its fkinfrddifreemn
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Frayed Knot May 24 2013 08:03 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Braves have, what, six hits tonight? - and three of them have been accidents up the 3B line by LHBs
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Frayed Knot May 24 2013 08:05 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Was hoping for a GiDP from McCann ... but I'll take the K
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 08:06 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Burke's got to earn his keep here.
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Frayed Knot May 24 2013 08:07 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Typical Uggla night so far: K - K - HR - ??
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Zvon May 24 2013 08:08 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Uggla looks like he has to take a leak when he bats.
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Frayed Knot May 24 2013 08:11 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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And now a walk makes it even more typical.
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Fman99 May 24 2013 08:11 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
This would be a good time to get an out.
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Zvon May 24 2013 08:12 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
I have a problem with a pitcher whose grimace and smile look the same.
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 08:12 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
A pitcher who drops down against a batter who drops down.
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 08:13 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
His hands aren't even together. He must be crazy strong to hit home runs out of that stance with that swing.
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 08:14 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
And.. kablooey.
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Fman99 May 24 2013 08:14 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Or, you know, the bullpen could take a big dump on the mound.
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Frayed Knot May 24 2013 08:16 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Gattis looked for a bit like he was slowing down and coming back to earth ... but lately he's picked it back up again.
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Frayed Knot May 24 2013 08:21 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
HOw 'bout trying to get on base down two runs John instead of swinging for the fences every time?
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Swan Swan H May 24 2013 08:22 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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Done.
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Frayed Knot May 24 2013 08:23 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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Yes, although through not a lot of effort of his own. Just didn't like that 2-0 swing is all.
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 08:24 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Wow. Mock cheers for fouling off a curve.
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Frayed Knot May 24 2013 08:25 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Ike gets a hand for
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Fman99 May 24 2013 08:26 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Ol' Nutbruise's chance to shine here.
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Frayed Knot May 24 2013 08:26 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
OK, this is as good a spot for Valdespin as any.
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Zvon May 24 2013 08:27 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Make Shorty look good Valde!
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 08:28 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
This game should be delayed here.
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Swan Swan H May 24 2013 08:30 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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After [crossout]Valdespin[/crossout] Murphy [crossout]homers[/crossout] singles.
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 08:33 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Upton's misplay is certainly a weather-factored play.
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Frayed Knot May 24 2013 08:33 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
OK, we know Ankiel has been saving it for NOW!!!!
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Frayed Knot May 24 2013 08:33 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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Maybe, but he was sloppy about it too.
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Fman99 May 24 2013 08:34 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
WOW TIE GAME ON THE PASSED BALL!
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Kong76 May 24 2013 08:34 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Crazy!
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 08:34 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Happy with the results, but Dale Scott is being stubborn. Somebody's going to get hurt.
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Zvon May 24 2013 08:35 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 08:35 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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Welcome back.
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Swan Swan H May 24 2013 08:37 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Looks like they may shut this down for a bit. Scott was heading toward the plate purposefully.
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Frayed Knot May 24 2013 08:38 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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WHACKY PACKAGES!!!! I can tell you're about my age Z, you had the same mis-spent childhood distractions.
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Fman99 May 24 2013 08:39 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
And.... the tarp is on the field. Glad they waited first, get the momentum of the tie in there before the delay.
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Swan Swan H May 24 2013 08:40 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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Frayed Knot May 24 2013 08:41 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
If this can't be continued tonight it'll be picked up at a later date and continued from this spot (new rule as of about two years ago) ... presumably tomorrow although both Sat & Sun have national TV considerations throwing a wrench into the works.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 24 2013 08:46 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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On further review-- I was putting YoungerPooper to bed when this occurred-- Uggla did a HELL of a job here getting an ankle-high pitch up, much less out. Multiple ties/unties on a rainy night against the Braves, with fireworks planned for afterward, should this game ever end... does this sound a little familiar yet?
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 08:49 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Yeah, that was some muscling up. Pretty good pitch.
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Fman99 May 24 2013 08:50 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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According to Gary the game would be picked up tomorrow. I don't know if that's the default in the opening game of a series, but he seemed to be fairly certain of this.
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Zvon May 24 2013 08:51 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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Frayed Knot May 24 2013 09:16 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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I'm sure he's right, I'm just saying that the TV factor makes it a problem. - At what time do they start the to-be-completed game? - How does the network handle it if Game 1 goes extras and bleeds into "their" time?
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Frayed Knot May 24 2013 09:19 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Rain-delay O-o-T-S news: Angel Hernandez blows a game-winning call in Chicago
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Edgy MD May 24 2013 09:24 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Angel Hernandez blowing a ballgame. This must be a post from last week.
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Frayed Knot May 24 2013 09:25 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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Nah, one per week is about his average.
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Frayed Knot May 24 2013 09:30 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
And the Sox win it in the 11th anyway on a Jeff Keppinger bases-loaded single.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 24 2013 09:51 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Nothing official yet, but there's rumbling on Twitter re: the Mets staff packing up equipment in the dugout, and a likely suspension.
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metirish May 24 2013 09:55 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Suspended says Google Now
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Swan Swan H May 24 2013 09:57 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Franco bobblehead and fireworks tomorrow night. Sweet.
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Ashie62 May 24 2013 10:02 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
I'm not sure the weather forecast is so spoony for tomorrow...
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Zvon May 24 2013 10:11 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Hmmm. If I start tomorrows IGT now, then we will win this one, right? Is that how it works?
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Frayed Knot May 25 2013 05:37 AM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
This suspension and the network TV obligations poses another question with this game: Is it going to be televised?
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Benjamin Grimm May 25 2013 06:02 AM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
If the Mets hadn't tied the game in the bottom of the eighth, would the Braves have had an eight-inning win? Or would they still have resumed the game today? I know that before the recent rule change, it would have been an eight-inning game either way, but now I'm not so sure. Do all suspended games get resumed, or just those that are tied?
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John Cougar Lunchbucket May 25 2013 06:05 AM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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This was the first thing I wondered about too. I we wil hafta stay right here until this one is over, then be prepared for a lickety split 5/25 gamer.
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Frayed Knot May 25 2013 06:42 AM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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What changed in the rule was that a tie game no longer simply gets wiped off the books entirely and gets replayed from scratch. Everything else, as far as I know, remains the same. So, yeah, had the Mets not scored after a complete 8th inning the Braves would have won an 8 inning game. But the 'whole 8th inning' thing comes into play because the Braves had scored twice in their half of the 8th. It used to be that they would have only counted completed innings meaning you'd revert to the game as it was at the end of the 7th which puts us right back into a tie situation. So if the game had been stopped while the Mets were batting but before they tied it ... then what? A - Do they suspend it as a tie and replay starting at the beginning of the 8th? B - Or do they suspend it and pick up exactly where they left off? C - and had the Braves led after 7 would they be declared the winner even if the game were called in mid-inning w/the Mets batting via the old revert to the last full inning logic? I think B is the right answer but I'm not entirely sure.
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Edgy MD May 25 2013 08:54 AM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Terry explains that he was "so excited" that Hefner was pitching so well that he had to get him out of there. So, not getting Hefner a loss somehow took subtle precedence over not getting the team a win.
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metirish May 25 2013 09:07 AM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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Ron opined the exact thing when SNY showed Hefner shaking hands with Collins....although he said it was about getting Hef a won.....either way it's a bullshit call.
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Edgy MD May 25 2013 09:35 AM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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So it's not about winning, it's not losing. And if it's about getting a win for the guy, isn't a useful component to getting that win using a pitcher who is pitching well as long as he is able to go? If you see a long-term tangilble benefit to uplifting players by not putting them in a position to lose, please consider that it's a zero-sum game. So they take Hef out, and they lose, does he feel that much better, knowing the team lost but it's not on his record, and all his teammates know he wasn't permitted to help them any further for the protection to his delicate psyche. And now Lyon, or whoever gets the loss on his record is in need of psychological boost of his own. I'd be mad at Terry, but this is too much the mainstream perspective for me to hang it on him alone. I imagine four out of five managers would agree with him.
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G-Fafif May 25 2013 09:47 AM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Ronnie indeed alluded to Davey doing that sort of thing, but as I recall, it generally wasn't when the pitcher in question was pitching very well (right up through his last inning of work) and his continued presence was a determining factor in maintaining a lead. Also, that was more of a raw rookie thing. By the second year, the training wheels were off the likes of Gooden, Darling and Fernandez. The Mets had games to win as much as they had pitchers to nurture. Somehow they managed to do both.
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Ceetar May 25 2013 09:59 AM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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I imagine 4/5 players too. Hefner HAS pitched well. I mean, maybe Terry knows he's bummed or something, but I think this is more in his own head than Jeremy's. I agree with the sentiment in principle, to get a guy that's been struggling to leave on a good note, but that doesn't apply here. Hefner doesn't have 0 wins because he's put up stinker after stinker, (though he hasn't pitched well in May) but because they haven't scored for him. He seemed to have it working yestrday, 7 Ks..
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Ashie62 May 25 2013 10:04 AM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Hefner in the 7th was better than any option the Mets had in the pen..
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Ceetar May 25 2013 12:21 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
6 oclock on SNY with Keith and Kevin. Don't see any word on what happens if it eclipses 7.
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Edgy MD May 25 2013 12:38 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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Certainly seemed like as good a bet. Plus, you get a wonderful redundancy when you elect not to pull a pitcher who is doing well. Your choice isn't really between Hawkins and Hefner. It's between Hawkins and Hefner plus Hawkins looking over his shoulder. How easy is that decision? *** So, what's worse than going to bed after a four-strikeout game? Going to bed after a four strikeout game that it isn't over, knowing you may have another few strikeouts in you before the books are closd.
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G-Fafif May 25 2013 12:57 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
FYI, this is not the first rainy Braves @ Mets game to be suspended after eight innings. Revisit 1979's version and its quirks here.
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smg58 May 25 2013 02:02 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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And knowing that the conclusion of the game may have been the one thing separating him you from an all-expenses-paid overnight flight to Las Vegas.
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Zvon May 25 2013 03:50 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
All indications tell me I will be blocked out for tonights game. Game listed is Phils on FOX, MLB.TV still has me blocked for SNY. Looks like I will be able to see this game picked up. This is strange. I'll be impressed if I can see the conclusion of this game, but if I can't see the reg game I'm gonna be pissed.
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Zvon May 25 2013 04:06 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
MLB.TV had some activity: FOX image feed and Guys doing the voice over. Then it cut out. Now says game will begin shortly.
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Zvon May 25 2013 04:11 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
This is indeed strange. Guys, Keith, and some stooge talking for FOX. Parnell on the mound to start the 9th, tied 5-5.
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Zvon May 25 2013 04:14 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Parnell wanted nothing to do with Heyward. Walks him on 4 pitches.
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Edgy MD May 25 2013 04:15 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
My stars and garters. There are people at the ballpark.
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Edgy MD May 25 2013 04:15 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
FANTASTIQUE time for a DP, though.
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Zvon May 25 2013 04:17 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Wow. Gets a big DP. Stays tied.
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Edgy MD May 25 2013 04:19 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
What do they have --- the backup booth crew working here?
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Edgy MD May 25 2013 04:22 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Sounds like Burkhardt, Darling, and... somebody else.
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Zvon May 25 2013 04:22 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
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Weird winds there.
I don't know the how and why we got what we got here. Its kool tho. I think the stooge might be a Braves announcer.
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Edgy MD May 25 2013 04:23 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
No, Keef's there, too.
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Zvon May 25 2013 04:24 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
I'm referring to the MLB.TV image feed atm, which is a mish mash of Braves,Mets, & FOX.
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Zvon May 25 2013 04:26 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
If that third guy is a Braves boothman, this is interesting.
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metirish May 25 2013 04:26 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
I like it, Joe Simpson with Keith and Kevin .
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Zvon May 25 2013 04:26 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Lyon for the 10th.
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Zvon May 25 2013 04:34 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
BOOOOOOOOlyon!
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Edgy MD May 25 2013 04:35 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
And Braves take the lead.
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Zvon May 25 2013 04:37 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
OH! I thought we had him! Gah, close but no cigar.
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Zvon May 25 2013 04:39 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Whew. Nice catch kid.
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Zvon May 25 2013 04:46 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Buck takes one for the team. Ouch. Ike should try and stand in front of a pitch if he can.
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Ashie62 May 25 2013 04:48 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Ike Vegas
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Zvon May 25 2013 04:48 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Or Viva Ike Davis?
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Zvon May 25 2013 04:50 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Nice line drive single over SS by Ike. VIVA IKE DAVIS!
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Zvon May 25 2013 04:51 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Ugh fuck. Mr T bunts and pops out cheaply.
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Zvon May 25 2013 04:51 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Turner gets an at bat.
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Zvon May 25 2013 04:53 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
Justin gets two at bats worth of outs. GAMEOVEH!
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metirish May 25 2013 05:02 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
That was terrible from Tejada ....
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Ashie62 May 25 2013 05:15 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
17-28
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Zvon May 25 2013 05:20 PM Re: IGT>5/24<Braves @ Mets-Hefner's Gotta Be Due! Ike,We Nee |
I am very impressed that MLB.TV did make it so I could view the end of this game.
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