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MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 28 2013 12:12 PM

Kuroda was struck by a line drive last week and subsequently called for aggressive lending to prop up a troubled Japan economy. He faces Matt Harvey.

metirish May 28 2013 12:24 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Harvey will be relishing this tonight apparently, relishing it.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 28 2013 12:25 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Twitter just said Ike is batting 8th.

Benjamin Grimm May 28 2013 12:28 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

I think that when Ike comes to the plate, the opposing pitcher should step aside and let Terry Collins pitch to him. In Pony League softball we called it "coach pitch".

metirish May 28 2013 12:31 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Twitter just said Ike is batting 8th. The end is nigh? , even the YES booth were trotting out the "he's a great guy yyybbb" lines during Ike's at bats last night," his teammates love him Al", if he were a dick he'd be down long ago perhaps.

Frayed Knot May 28 2013 12:35 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Twitter just said Ike is batting 8th. I wonder if he'll throw a shit-fit like ARod did when he was sentenced to hit 8th?

Ceetar May 28 2013 12:38 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Twitter just said Ike is batting 8th. oh, I thought they were trying the players that couldn't hit leadoff.

Lefty Specialist May 28 2013 12:45 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Kuroda was struck by a line drive last week and subsequently called for aggressive lending to prop up a troubled Japan economy. He faces Matt Harvey. Ah, the wonders of Hirokinomics. Let's hope he refrains from imposing austerity on the Mets bats, which are badly in need of a stimulus.

Zvon May 28 2013 01:21 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Zvon May 28 2013 01:41 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Continuing with the Monty Python theme. We didn't really crush em last night, we nipped em. So tonight we destroy them!

Lefty Specialist May 28 2013 01:47 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Zvon wrote: It's always fascinated me that 100 years later, people in their offices watching GameCast are seeing essentially the same thing as those people were, just on computer screens. And without hats.

G-Fafif May 28 2013 01:53 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Ike batting eighth. Should be batting ninth. Or out west. Ruben Tejada, ss Daniel Murphy, 2b David Wright, 3b Lucas Duda, lf Marlon Byrd, rf Rick Ankiel, cf John Buck, c Ike Davis, 1b Matt Harvey, rhp

Zvon May 28 2013 02:03 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Lefty Specialist wrote: It's always fascinated me that 100 years later, people in their offices watching GameCast are seeing essentially the same thing as those people were, just on computer screens. And without hats. What amazed me, in the original pic, was that it showed that fans have been nickled and dimed through-out history. I've seen set-ups like this before in old photos, but always thought they were just outdoor boards that were there to view for free.

Benjamin Grimm May 28 2013 02:16 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Playograph From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The Playograph was a machine used to transmit the details of a baseball game in the era before television. It is approximated by the "gamecast" feature on some sports web sites: it had a reproduction of a baseball diamond, with an inning-by-inning scoreboard, each team's lineup, and it simulated each pitch: a ball, a strike, a hit, an out, and so on. A telegraph operator transmitted the details of the baseball game to the two people operating the Playograph. An "X" on the diamond represented a runner; an "O" was displayed if the runner got out. A ball was moved animatronically to show fastballs or curveballs, where it was hit, and so on. A similar contraption, called the "Gridgraph," was used for football games. Here's an article about the Play-o-Graph, indicating that it met its demise in 1939.

Benjamin Grimm May 28 2013 02:18 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

And this, from ConnecticutHistory.org: ConnecticutHistory.org wrote: Re-creating Our National Pastime In an era before the Internet, television, or even live radio broadcasts, fans of professional baseball watched re-creations of games around the country thanks to an innovative company in Stamford, Connecticut. The Stamford Playograph Company brought live baseball to millions of Americans through the production of their “playograph” product. Playographs resembled large billboards, often standing about 9-feet high. Making up either side of the playograph was the vertical listing of the player lineups for each team. In the middle of the playograph was a reproduction of a baseball diamond, along with places for playograph operators to indicate balls, strikes, outs, and runs in real-time. The ingenious invention was operated by two men hidden from public view. The operators received transmissions from telegraph operators who watched the games live and communicated details about every pitch. Upon receiving each update, playograph operators depicted the transmissions on the playograph through the use of a baseball replica that they manually moved around the baseball diamond. The ball sat still on the pitcher’s mound until operators received information about the game’s next pitch. The operator then moved the ball toward home plate in a fashion that replicated the pitch thrown. Playograph viewers witnessed the ball move directly and deliberately toward home plate for fastballs. For curveballs, it moved with a sudden swing left or right at the end. If a batter made contact, the playograph operator moved the ball to a spot on the diamond reproduction that corresponded to where it had been hit in the game. A small “fly ball” indicator let viewers differentiate between balls hit on the ground and those hit into the air, while an “X” on a base represented a runner and an “O” indicated a runner who was out. Playographs appeared in theatres, opera houses, and on the sides of buildings and were wildly popular for a brief period of time. Used primarily for important games, like those of the World Series, the first match-ups re-created through use of the playograph were the 1911 World Series games between the New York Giants and the Philadelphia Athletics. While playographs helped spread the popularity of baseball and bring together an entire community of sports enthusiasts, public outdoor displays in downtown areas proved a menace to local business owners who found access to their establishments limited or completely barricaded by the throngs of fans gathering around the playograph. Fortunately for them, the success of the playograph was short-lived and its use largely disappeared when radio stations began broadcasting baseball games in the 1920s.

Zvon May 28 2013 02:28 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

In 1884, three telegraph operators came up with a plan. They painted a ball field onto a large poster, which they placed in a theater in Nashville. One went to Chattanooga and telegraphed the plays back to the theater, where the second read them while the third moved cards with the players’ names around the poster. The theater soon sold out, so they moved to the much larger opera house Then electricity entered the picture. In 1891, Samuel Mott, a former Edison employee, received a patent for his system (right), involving light bulbs and motors. In 1894, when their local team beat New York, the crowd at Ford’s Opera House in Baltimore was driven into a frenzy by the Compton Electric Base Ball Game Impersonator. And that year yet another new technology was introduced: android robotics. Born in the late 1880's. Amazin'. "Game Impersonator"-ha! "android robotics" in 1891? Great article, thnx4sharing :)

Edgy MD May 28 2013 02:29 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Man, look at those legendary names: Merkle, Speaker, Snograss, and the doomed Chick Stahl. That looks to be game two of the 1912 World Series, played to an 11-inning tie. DAMN YOU, BUD SELIG! (Actually one of the most exciting World Series ever.)

dinosaur jesus May 28 2013 02:37 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Zvon wrote: What amazed me, in the original pic, was that it showed that fans have been nickled and dimed through-out history. I've seen set-ups like this before in old photos, but always thought they were just outdoor boards that were there to view for free. But they were free, weren't they? I mean, there's the display right downtown for everyone to see. And the full details in the Evening Telegram was stuff you couldn't put on a board anyway--the game write-up, the sportswriters ragging on McGraw for playing Beals Becker instead of Josh Devore, etc. And yeah, that is game 2 of the 1912 Series. Mathewson is about to retire Hugh Bedient, the Red Sox pitcher, for the last out of the game. It's interesting that the pitcher is batting. The Red Sox had position players available to pinch hit, but Bedient was their third pitcher of the game, so maybe they didn't want to use up another pitcher. On the other hand, the game was going to be called after this half-inning anyway, so what the hell.

Edgy MD May 28 2013 02:39 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

So, why was it no problem for me to have a charitable attitude toward saluting Chipper Jones? Craig Biggio, thanks for the memories. You were a most worthy opponent. But a brief salute to the career of Mariano Rivera feels like passing an emotional kidney stone.

seawolf17 May 28 2013 02:40 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Eff Mariano AND Chipper Jones. Loved Biggio, though.

batmagadanleadoff May 28 2013 02:56 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Those running the Play-O-Graph could run a scam ala the con depicted in The Sting by delaying the posting of the information that came in on the wire.

Ashie62 May 28 2013 03:52 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13 Edited 2 time(s), most recently on May 28 2013 06:04 PM

Rain forecast 90% at 7pm. How do the rescheduled this? Big marketing night may go poof

G-Fafif May 28 2013 03:58 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Edgy MD wrote: So, why was it no problem for me to have a charitable attitude toward saluting Chipper Jones? Craig Biggio, thanks for the memories. You were a most worthy opponent. But a brief salute to the career of Mariano Rivera feels like passing an emotional kidney stone. Biggio: Local boy who stopped by now and then. Ya got 3,000 hits? No kiddin'! Good for you, pal! Chipper: We sort of invented him. It became a thing after a decade. I'd dare say he felt like Cousin Larry. Plus he endless paid homage to Shea in a way ownership never did. Rivera: His entire purpose in our lives was to ensure we lost games we were losing. Technically all opponents try to do that but his very specific job description was about ruining our night. And he was forced into our direct line of sight by MLB's gimmickry (2000 WS aside). It's a classy thing to do to honor a retiring great on his way out, but this doesn't quite feel like that. But I'll take it over however much they're going to kiss The Captain's rings when his time comes.

Ceetar May 28 2013 04:01 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

G-Fafif wrote: But I'll take it over however much they're going to kiss The Captain's rings when his time comes. oh god please have the steroid tests come out before that.

Edgy MD May 28 2013 04:13 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Or that it come in the midst of 59-win Yankee season while the Mets are storming over the horizon.

Zvon May 28 2013 04:27 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

dinosaur jesus wrote: Zvon wrote: What amazed me, in the original pic, was that it showed that fans have been nickled and dimed through-out history. I've seen set-ups like this before in old photos, but always thought they were just outdoor boards that were there to view for free. But they were free, weren't they? I mean, there's the display right downtown for everyone to see. And the full details in the Evening Telegram was stuff you couldn't put on a board anyway--the game write-up, the sportswriters ragging on McGraw for playing Beals Becker instead of Josh Devore, etc. That's what I thought, and always thought. But reading that article and seeing the admission prices in the photo makes me think they somehow made it so only payees could be in front of that board. That does appear to be outdoors.

Zvon May 28 2013 04:44 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

I stopped in the web site BaseballFever.com earlier today looking for that Play-0-Graph image and when I go there its like walking into a baseball library. Like I've always been when in walk into a real library, I can't resist looking around (taking some books off the shelf) and absorbing the info (reading bits and pieces of this and that). I always end up spending more time there than I intend. So, I run into this: Scheffing was a manager once? I never knew. Now that I think of it I know nothing of this guy aside from his time with the Mets.

Frayed Knot May 28 2013 05:00 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

"I once knew a lethal bantamweight named Hiroki Kuroda" "You're looking at him"

Benjamin Grimm May 28 2013 05:02 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Zvon wrote: Scheffing was a manager once? I never knew. Now that I think of it I know nothing of this guy aside from his time with the Mets. I think it was mentioned in the 1971 Mets yearbook, which happens to be the yearbook I devoured more than any other.

Benjamin Grimm May 28 2013 05:03 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Tarp on the field. ESPN saying that the Mets hope to get the game underway by 8, or a little before.

Zvon May 28 2013 05:09 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Damn.

metirish May 28 2013 05:40 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Mets Yearbook 1963......few things are better to watch.......I can see totally buying into the idea that Shea will be the greatest stadium EVER built for baseball......it will even have escalators , no more taking those long walks.......most modern scoreboard....wow

metirish May 28 2013 05:42 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Casey's "all you have done for the youth of America" speech to Wagner cracks me up every time.

Ashie62 May 28 2013 05:46 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

metirish wrote: Mets Yearbook 1963......few things are better to watch.......I can see totally buying into the idea that Shea will be the greatest stadium EVER built for baseball......it will even have escalators , no more taking those long walks.......most modern scoreboard....wow All space age! Here comes Elroy....

Edgy MD May 28 2013 05:54 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Rain Delay Theater: Gary Carter's Game-Winning Hit off of Charlie Kerfeld to Take Game Five of the 1986 NLCS [youtube:1hnw8at0]7ozua4K01I8[/youtube:1hnw8at0] Coupla closeups on random fans, including one guy at 0:45 that looks like Jerry Stiller.

Edgy MD May 28 2013 05:55 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Wow, I'm pretty sure the other "random" fan is Rhea Pearlman.

Ashie62 May 28 2013 05:56 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Love this yearbook with Kranepool, Fisher and others in Iceland....

Ashie62 May 28 2013 05:57 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Edgy MD wrote: Wow, I'm pretty sure the other "random" fan is Rhea Pearlman. Sure is...The other one doesn't look like Stiller to me..

Ashie62 May 28 2013 05:59 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Gametime

Ashie62 May 28 2013 06:03 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 28 2013 06:03 PM

Wishful thinking...

Zvon May 28 2013 06:03 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

I dunno. But I hear tings. 9PM?

Ashie62 May 28 2013 06:05 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Well...those who showed up get a Harvey shirt out of the trip anyway..

Swan Swan H May 28 2013 06:06 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

I got five tweets saying 8:40. oe: Six. Olney checked in.

Kong76 May 28 2013 06:14 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

"Expect the Mets!"

Edgy MD May 28 2013 06:23 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Darryl has a vicious month. Baby-faced teammates appreciate it. Programmed synth music sounds horrible. [youtube:1bd5vxbq]ClsAOhhUKz0[/youtube:1bd5vxbq]

themetfairy May 28 2013 06:28 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

I am overdosing on Mets Yearbooks....

Zvon May 28 2013 06:29 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

themetfairy wrote: I am overdosing on Mets Yearbooks.... What a way to go!

metirish May 28 2013 06:30 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Zvon wrote: themetfairy wrote: I am overdosing on Mets Yearbooks.... What a way to go! With all the young talent coming through yearbook after yearbook, no wonder you're overdosing.

Swan Swan H May 28 2013 06:33 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Gil Hodges was 45 years old when the Mets won the '69 Series. It makes sense, as he played until 1963, but he seemed so much older.

Edgy MD May 28 2013 06:36 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Mariano: cheers from 1/3 of the crowd; boos from about 1/6; indifference from 1/2. John Franco: cheers from about 4/5! That says something about the distastefulness fans feel about saluting Rivera when they go nuts for Franco. Wearing the "C" on his jersey, too. Was that an actual lefthanded catcher's mitt or was it a firstbaseman's mitt?

Ashie62 May 28 2013 06:37 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Swan Swan H wrote: Gil Hodges was 45 years old when the Mets won the '69 Series. It makes sense, as he played until 1963, but he seemed so much older. He may have unknowingly been in decline then...

Swan Swan H May 28 2013 06:38 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Noted in the 1964 Mets Yearbook - in 1963 the Mets held 'days' for two of their own - Gil Hodges and Duke Snider - as well as for Stan Musial and Willie Mays.

Zvon May 28 2013 06:40 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

PLAYBALL!

Zvon May 28 2013 06:42 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Smooooooth Ankie.

Edgy MD May 28 2013 06:45 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Uno-dos-tres. Let's jump all over Kuroda now.

metirish May 28 2013 06:47 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Harvey hitting high heat in the first. Blew a few by Wells. Let's

Zvon May 28 2013 06:48 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

GO

Swan Swan H May 28 2013 06:49 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Swan Swan H May 28 2013 06:50 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Did Tejada stop and ask for directions? Sure seemed like he should have beat that out.

Edgy MD May 28 2013 06:51 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

I don't know who this Brignac guy is, but it really shows you something to see a Yankee make that play without the extraneous jump.

Zvon May 28 2013 06:55 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Swan Swan H wrote: Did Tejada stop and ask for directions? Sure seemed like he should have beat that out. It was odd he took so long to get to first. Murphy: single Wright: single Both pretty ripped.

Zvon May 28 2013 07:07 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

lol. Doc doesn't hesitate. 1-2 count. Up and in.

Edgy MD May 28 2013 07:08 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Who'da thought after all he's been through (put himself through) that Dwight Gooden would be this sharp? He's welcome to sit in the booth on Ronnie's days off anytime, from my perspective. (Caveat: Anytime... he's not high.)

Edgy MD May 28 2013 07:10 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Quiz answer: Jesse Orosco.

TransMonk May 28 2013 07:12 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Edgy MD wrote: Quiz answer: Jesse Orosco. I thought Franco, no?

TransMonk May 28 2013 07:15 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

The Ike at-bats are getting downright painful to watch. Yuck.

Zvon May 28 2013 07:19 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Who'da thought after all he's been through (put himself through) that Dwight Gooden would be this sharp? He's welcome to sit in the booth on Ronnie's days off anytime, from my perspective. (Caveat: Anytime... he's not high.) TransMonk wrote: The Ike at-bats are getting downright painful to watch. Yuck. I wash my hands.

Kong76 May 28 2013 07:21 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Who'da thought after all he's been through (put himself through) that Dwight Gooden would be this sharp? He's welcome to sit in the booth on Ronnie's days off anytime, from my perspective. (Caveat: Anytime... he's not high.) I was impressed by him too.

Edgy MD May 28 2013 07:25 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Can we test Cano before this at-bat?

Zvon May 28 2013 07:27 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Harvey in a pickle. 2 on, 2 out. Cano.

Swan Swan H May 28 2013 07:29 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Edgy MD wrote: Can we test Cano before this at-bat? Harvey tested him. And he failed.

Zvon May 28 2013 07:31 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

metirish May 28 2013 07:32 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Great out pitch from Harvey to get Cano.....not sure but I think the booth might not be too enamoured with the live drop in with Doc......I find his insight fascinating.

Swan Swan H May 28 2013 07:33 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Edgy MD May 28 2013 07:34 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Hilarious that Gooden keeps endorsing coming up and in with two strikes, as he switched relatively early in his career away from using the fastball as an out pitch and was primarily using it to set up the hook relatively early in his career. It's like Ball Four. "Bust 'm inside!" It's like he's seeing this through his 20-year-old eyes.

metirish May 28 2013 07:35 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Doc should be coaching, what a resource .......

Edgy MD May 28 2013 07:39 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

TransMonk wrote: Quiz answer: Jesse Orosco. I thought Franco, no? Have they answered this one yet? I figured Franco had that year lost to an elbow injury.

Zvon May 28 2013 07:39 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

metirish wrote: Doc should be coaching, what a resource ....... AGREED #2!

Swan Swan H May 28 2013 07:43 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

TransMonk May 28 2013 07:52 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Franco 1984-2001.

Zvon May 28 2013 08:01 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Gimme more PJ!

Swan Swan H May 28 2013 08:02 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Zvon May 28 2013 08:04 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

We need JCL to predict this is the inning we get to Krudoa.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 28 2013 08:13 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Next inning.

Zvon May 28 2013 08:13 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Next inning. WOOT!

Zvon May 28 2013 08:14 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Fuckin Gardner. Booooo Byrd.

Swan Swan H May 28 2013 08:18 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

We need another PJ.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 28 2013 08:18 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Fuckity Bitch. Damn lazy defensive guys.

Zvon May 28 2013 08:19 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Shit. Wasn't a terrible pitch. It was moving away. He got his bat on it nicely.

Ashie62 May 28 2013 08:20 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Knifed by Lyle Overbay...that hurts...

Swan Swan H May 28 2013 08:21 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

TransMonk May 28 2013 08:21 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

I agree with Keith on that one...when you need an out, you shouldn't be throwing your fourth best pitch.

Edgy MD May 28 2013 08:22 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Yeah, I'm not cool with getting beat on the changeup. Cano almost screwed him badly on that a few innings back. It should be a setup pitch that you don't leave in the zone.

Edgy MD May 28 2013 08:23 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Gooden agrees with Mex who agrees with me.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 28 2013 08:23 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

OK men. Here we go.

metirish May 28 2013 08:23 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

We just can't afford Byrd shit on the field like that .

Ashie62 May 28 2013 08:24 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Gooden looks horrible..

Swan Swan H May 28 2013 08:25 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Ashie62 wrote: Gooden looks horrible.. Actually, he looked a lot worse a few years ago.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 28 2013 08:26 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

E-4!

Zvon May 28 2013 08:26 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Edgy MD wrote: Gooden agrees with Mex who agrees with me. AGREED #3,4,5

Swan Swan H May 28 2013 08:26 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Cano may not be nonchalant, but he was clearly not chalant enough.

Frayed Knot May 28 2013 08:27 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Edgy MD wrote: Who'da thought after all he's been through (put himself through) that Dwight Gooden would be this sharp? He's welcome to sit in the booth on Ronnie's days off anytime, from my perspective. First he needs to correct the amateur mistake of not talking so fast.

metirish May 28 2013 08:27 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Swan Swan H wrote: Ashie62 wrote: Gooden looks horrible.. Actually, he looked a lot worse a few years ago. Knows his baseball , great insights on Harvey.

Zvon May 28 2013 08:29 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

LETS

Swan Swan H May 28 2013 08:30 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Frayed Knot wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Who'da thought after all he's been through (put himself through) that Dwight Gooden would be this sharp? He's welcome to sit in the booth on Ronnie's days off anytime, from my perspective. First he needs to correct the amateur mistake of not talking so fast. He'd do well to start as a go-to analyst, kind of like they do with guys 'inside the glass' on hockey broadcasts. Three or four check-ins a game, keyed around crucial pitching situations. Get his mic skills honed, and he could be really good.

Frayed Knot May 28 2013 08:30 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Dwight's upcoming book partially explains his appearance/exposure here.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 28 2013 08:30 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Zvon wrote: LETS GOOOOOOOOOO[/bigpurple]

Gwreck May 28 2013 08:31 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 28 2013 08:31 PM

GO Fuck yourself Gardner

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 28 2013 08:31 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Fuck off, Gardner.

Edgy MD May 28 2013 08:31 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Murphy owes Gardner a punch or two.

Swan Swan H May 28 2013 08:32 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Come on Cap'n, time for another big hit.

Gwreck May 28 2013 08:32 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Going to need another home run here David

Frayed Knot May 28 2013 08:33 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

No way Gardner could have made those plays unless Jeter was his teammate.

Zvon May 28 2013 08:33 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Edgy MD wrote: Murphy owes Gardner a punch or two. Two awesome grabs off Muffy. Jeezeloueezze. Mr T gets to 2nd!

Nymr83 May 28 2013 08:36 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Oh. We hadn't seen much of "waives at crap outside the zone Wright" this year. There he is.

metirish May 28 2013 08:38 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

What a joke,Tejada picked off at second.

TransMonk May 28 2013 08:38 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Ahh...for fuck's sake.

Nymr83 May 28 2013 08:38 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

TERRYS FUCKING ANGRY!##

Zvon May 28 2013 08:38 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Night Shorty. I like it. Cuz if I was the manager I would want to be far away from Mr T.

Edgy MD May 28 2013 08:39 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Terry was gonna blow soona or later. Dumb work by Ruben, though, Where was he goin'. Everybody in the park knew the shortstop was sneaking up on him.

Frayed Knot May 28 2013 08:39 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 28 2013 08:40 PM

I know he was never going to be another Reyes, but when did Tejada become such a low energy player? Not charging balls hard, weak leads from 1st, then slow to react at 2nd, etc.

metirish May 28 2013 08:40 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

That was our shot right there, it just can't happen, terrible stuff.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 28 2013 08:40 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

We have got to stop playing like a team that's 10 games under .500

Edgy MD May 28 2013 08:41 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Bob Geren, win this one for us.

Zvon May 28 2013 08:47 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Edgy MD wrote: Terry was gonna blow soona or later. Dumb work by Ruben, though, Where was he goin'. Everybody in the park knew the shortstop was sneaking up on him. And the pitcher just faked a throw there. No, no, no excuse.

Frayed Knot May 28 2013 08:48 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 28 2013 08:50 PM

btw, not that it's our greatest concern at the moment, but no way should that have been an Earned Run against Harvey. To call it Earned you've got to assume that Cano's grounder would have moved Gardener up to 2nd and then that Overbay's single would have moved him up [u:2mxzto30]Two[/u:2mxzto30] bases. Both highly speculative assumptions, particularly the first one.

Edgy MD May 28 2013 08:50 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Suddenly, Kuroda's splitter is sharper than it's been all night.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 28 2013 08:52 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Tejada can catch that flight to Vegas with Ike as far as I'm concerned.

Zvon May 28 2013 08:53 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Frayed Knot wrote: btw, not that it's our greatest concern at the moment, but no way should that have been an Earned Run against Harvey. To call it Earned you've got to assume that Cano's grounder would have moved Gardener up to 2nd and then that Overbay's single would have moved him up Two bases. Both highly speculative assumptions, particularly the first one. And this is "home town" scoring?

metirish May 28 2013 08:53 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Tejada can catch that flight to Vegas with Ike as far as I'm concerned. Yep, the booth talking big about Omar Quintanilla.

Frayed Knot May 28 2013 08:54 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Here's the thing about this shift vs Buck even when holding the runner on which gives him the whole one side of the field ... the Yanx don't care if Buck gets a single because Ike is on deck.

Edgy MD May 28 2013 08:55 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Stop chasing junk, Buck. And stop calling changeups in the strike zone.

Ceetar May 28 2013 08:57 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

metirish wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Tejada can catch that flight to Vegas with Ike as far as I'm concerned. Yep, the booth talking big about Omar Quintanilla. Afraid Quintanilla would be worse.

Edgy MD May 28 2013 09:01 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Vote your hopes, not your fears. Think Davis makes it to the plate in the bottom of the inning?

Swan Swan H May 28 2013 09:02 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Frayed Knot May 28 2013 09:06 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Edgy MD wrote: Vote your hopes, not your fears. Think Davis makes it to the plate in the bottom of the inning? I was about the ask the same question: PH to increase the odds of getting the leadoff runner on, or keep Ike in based on the off chance of a tying HR?

Swan Swan H May 28 2013 09:07 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Oy. Somebody's got to keep that in the infield.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 28 2013 09:07 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Edgy MD wrote: Vote your hopes, not your fears. Think Davis makes it to the plate in the bottom of the inning? Not against a lefty.

metirish May 28 2013 09:07 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Are you fucking taking the piss Tejada?

Edgy MD May 28 2013 09:07 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Harvey's grinding here, I think. That hanger to Cano was the tipping point.

Zvon May 28 2013 09:07 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

WTF was that Mr T? How do you pull up on a ground ball up the middle?

Frayed Knot May 28 2013 09:08 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

'nother low energy play by Ruben

Nymr83 May 28 2013 09:08 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Tejada doesn't even want to try for the ball?

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 28 2013 09:08 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

metirish wrote: Are you fucking taking the piss Tejada? Visited by the Ghost of Castillo.

Edgy MD May 28 2013 09:09 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Yeah, he's done.

Swan Swan H May 28 2013 09:10 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

One jeezly run and two innings to get it. No problem.

TransMonk May 28 2013 09:10 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Harvey's line aside...this has been an ugly, ugly game.

metirish May 28 2013 09:10 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Ike is up?? Damn

Gwreck May 28 2013 09:10 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Delta airlines is paging passengers Tejada and Davis for flight 257 to Las Vegas. Please report to gate 10 to ensure on-time departure.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 28 2013 09:10 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Anyway, guys. We're a swing away from tying this thing and 2 swings away from winning it.

Edgy MD May 28 2013 09:11 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Vote your hopes, not your fears. Think Davis makes it to the plate in the bottom of the inning? Not against a lefty. Goes without saying.

Frayed Knot May 28 2013 09:11 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Vote your hopes, not your fears. Think Davis makes it to the plate in the bottom of the inning? Not against a lefty. If Girardi goes with a LHP then we'd PH for sure, so I think he'll just go straight to Robertson. At this point Jordany is probably a better bet to hit a HR than Ike so I'd go that way (assuming, again, that it's not a lefty).

metirish May 28 2013 09:12 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Anyway, guys. We're a swing away from tying this thing and 2 swings away from winning it. Said no Mets fan ever.

Swan Swan H May 28 2013 09:12 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Fuck this shit. Robertson is dead where he stands.

Gwreck May 28 2013 09:13 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

I think we kind of have to use either Baxter or Valdespin to hit for Davis here, right? Right?

Edgy MD May 28 2013 09:13 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Smokes, Davis gets to the plate anyhow.

Swan Swan H May 28 2013 09:13 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

It's Ike's Last Stand, Vol. XIV.

Ashie62 May 28 2013 09:14 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Terrific...

metirish May 28 2013 09:14 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Ike makes contact, ironic cheers?

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 28 2013 09:16 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

metirish wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Anyway, guys. We're a swing away from tying this thing and 2 swings away from winning it. Said no Mets fan ever. Hey, I'm still a fan, I think. Cmon Valdy

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 28 2013 09:17 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

fuck

Ashie62 May 28 2013 09:17 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

It was a strike shithead...

Edgy MD May 28 2013 09:17 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Didn't get a swing in, Jordany. 'Sup with dat?

metirish May 28 2013 09:18 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 28 2013 09:18 PM

What the fuck are you looking for Jordany?

Edgy MD May 28 2013 09:18 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Taking a lotta strikes, men.

Zvon May 28 2013 09:19 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Anyway, guys. We're a swing away from tying this thing and 2 swings away from winning it. There ya go! PaaaTING!

Nymr83 May 28 2013 09:21 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Harvey not coming out for the 9th and won't be eligible for the Complete Game Loss (also known as The Livan Hernandez)

Gwreck May 28 2013 09:26 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

They're just setting it up for one last chance to stick it to Rivera before he retires.

metirish May 28 2013 09:28 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Exactly, ruin this langers night.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 28 2013 09:29 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

That would be awesome. Fuck this old skeleton.

Edgy MD May 28 2013 09:29 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

That would be most pleasant.

Zvon May 28 2013 09:30 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Perfect by everyone in that pickoff. Nice to see something done correctly. Okay Metsies, you have one more chance to un-embarrass us all. Wouldnt it be apropo if we got to Rivera here?

Frayed Knot May 28 2013 09:31 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Rivera this seson: 20 appearances 19 were full-inning appearances 18 were saves he's given up 3 runs in total, 1 run in each of three outings he gave up hits in 11 of them

Edgy MD May 28 2013 09:31 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Here we go. A dink and a donk.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 28 2013 09:31 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Fair ball! Double for Muffy!!

Zvon May 28 2013 09:32 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Theres your two base dinkle.

Edgy MD May 28 2013 09:32 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Almost tempted to have Wright bunt. Somebody punch me.

Gwreck May 28 2013 09:32 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Here we go

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 28 2013 09:33 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Tie game!!!!

Gwreck May 28 2013 09:33 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

SUCK IT RIVERA

Swan Swan H May 28 2013 09:33 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Save blown. Game about to be.

Frayed Knot May 28 2013 09:34 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

FUCK YEAH!!!!

metsguyinmichigan May 28 2013 09:34 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

YES!!! YES!!!!

Nymr83 May 28 2013 09:34 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

SUCK IT!!!!!!!!!!

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 28 2013 09:34 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Gwreck wrote: SUCK IT RIVERA I agree. SUCK IT RIVERA[/bigpurple]

metirish May 28 2013 09:34 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Fuck yeah

Edgy MD May 28 2013 09:34 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

WOW! Murphy doesn't score if Gardner isn't playing Wright to right field so starkly.

Zvon May 28 2013 09:34 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

!!!![/bigpurple]

metsguyinmichigan May 28 2013 09:35 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

DUUUUUUUDDAAAAA Rivera didn't get a single out!!!

Frayed Knot May 28 2013 09:35 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

KABOOM RADLEY!!!!!

Nymr83 May 28 2013 09:35 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

SUCK IT AGAIN!!!!!!

Swan Swan H May 28 2013 09:35 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Walk off that mound, Mariano, as a loser.

Edgy MD May 28 2013 09:36 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Can we pay tribute to Rivera again tomorrow night?

Gwreck May 28 2013 09:36 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 28 2013 09:36 PM

BOOKS, MOTHERFUCKERS

metsguyinmichigan May 28 2013 09:36 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Take THAT!!!!!

Zvon May 28 2013 09:36 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

metirish May 28 2013 09:36 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Wow, what a win, fuck you you fucking langer.

A Boy Named Seo May 28 2013 09:37 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

So that's why they were sucking Rivera's dick before the game. Farewell, Mariano!

themetfairy May 28 2013 09:39 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

WOOT!!!!

Frayed Knot May 28 2013 09:39 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Words AND smiles out of Lucas

Edgy MD May 28 2013 09:39 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

I almost saw Duda's lips moving during that interview.

metsguyinmichigan May 28 2013 09:40 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

First time in Rivera's career that he's come in, given up three hits, two runs, lost the game and didn't get an out.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 28 2013 09:40 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

I don't care what the neighbors say about that Radley boy-- he's fine with me. Caught up on DVR just in time for that. BEAUTIFUL.

Frayed Knot May 28 2013 09:43 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Caught up on DVR just in time for that. BEAUTIFUL. I did that last night, started about an hour late then was about 3 minutes behind as the game ended. Watched this one in real time the whole way. I need a drink after this one.

MFS62 May 28 2013 09:46 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

I just KNOW the VYF in my office is going to blame it on the fact Rivera had to pitch twice tonight (once before the game). Y'know what? Fuck him. I got out of work, turned on the radio in my car just in time to hear Terry get tossed and the score 1-0 MFYs. Then I turned it off. Did Terry have a legit complaint? What was the play? Later

Edgy MD May 28 2013 09:46 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Rich Coutinho ?@coutinho9 6h Classy move by wilpons having mariano throw our first pitch rivera personfies qualities of hunger and humility as well as anyone. We should make a run at this Rivera guy when the trade deadline rolls around.

Zvon May 28 2013 09:48 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Frayed Knot May 28 2013 09:49 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

First time in Rivera's career that he's come in, given up three hits, two runs, lost the game and didn't get an out. Yeah, Game 7 2001 WS doesn't quite count. In that one he faced six hitters, gave up two runs, but did get one out. Of course there's a caveat in that one as two of the batters he faced that night were trying to make an out: Single - Sac Bunt (Error), Sac Bunt/Force, Double, HBP, GW Single Come to think of it he also pitched a 1-2-3 8th inning too that night.

Ceetar May 28 2013 09:50 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

MFS62 wrote: I just KNOW the VYF in my office is going to blame it on the fact Rivera had to pitch twice tonight (once before the game). Y'know what? Fuck him. I got out of work, turned on the radio in my car just in time to hear Terry get tossed and the score 1-0 MFYs. Then I turned it off. Did Terry have a legit complaint? What was the play? Later no. and neither did Tejada who had to know he was out. Tried to slide back on the pick off and got blocked by so he never got his hand in. the umpire initially thought his hand was in there though, and started to signal safe before calling him out, and that's what set off Terry.

Edgy MD May 28 2013 09:50 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

MFS62 wrote: Did Terry have a legit complaint? What was the play? Not really. His complaint seemed to be that the ump changed his call mid-play. But Tejada was out when the ump made the wrong call and he was still out when he made the right one. Terry was probably more interested in firing up his team, which didn't really work, as they continued to play sloppy. Murphy's hit sure fired 'em up, though. Speaking of sloppy, this Sunday catcher the Yanks are running out there has had a lot of balls just go through his mitt. He should be on the next train to King of Prussia or wherever the Yankees send their AAA players.

Zvon May 28 2013 09:52 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

MFS62 wrote: I just KNOW the VYF in my office is going to blame it on the fact Rivera had to pitch twice tonight (once before the game). Y'know what? Fuck him. I got out of work, turned on the radio in my car just in time to hear Terry get tossed and the score 1-0 MFYs. Then I turned it off. Did Terry have a legit complaint? What was the play? Later Not with the ump. Tejeda had his head up his ass. Clearly picked off second, no mistake. Collins just had to get thrown out there...or Im afraid he would have ripped up the dugout or something. One a those maybe this will fire em up things, I think.

Frayed Knot May 28 2013 09:54 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Edgy MD wrote: Speaking of sloppy, this Sunday catcher the Yanks are running out there has had a lot of balls just go through his mitt. He should be on the next train to King of Prussia or wherever the Yankees send their AAA players. And on the Wright single, they gave the error to Gardner on the play at the plate (they always give them to the thrower on those plays) but that was absolutely the catcher's bad on that one. At first I thought he lost it in Muffy's slide but that didn't hit Daniel until it went right through Stewart's wickets and Dabid getting down to 2B on that play was HUGE.

Ceetar May 28 2013 09:55 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Edgy MD wrote: MFS62 wrote: Speaking of sloppy, this Sunday catcher the Yanks are running out there has had a lot of balls just go through his mitt. He should be on the next train to King of Prussia or wherever the Yankees send their AAA players. Just returned from a groin injury, probably still bothering him. Somehow the Yankees decided they didn't really need a catcher this year, sticking with Francisco Cervelli who got hurt. A guy they thought so much of LAST year they sent him to Triple-A to keep some scrub on the roster.

Frayed Knot May 28 2013 09:57 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Austine Romine is their best defensive catching prospect. They called him up when Cervelli got hurt but he can't hit so he sits most of the time so they can get Stewart's bat in the game. They paid for it both nights so far.

MFS62 May 28 2013 09:59 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Thanks for the explanations. Tejada better clear up his vision by pulling his head out of his ass. Omar Quintanilla is hitting .323 at Las Vegas. Lter

Edgy MD May 28 2013 10:04 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Maybe Girardi needs to activate himself. "Hey, Yankees, how about a one-inning ballgame. You pitch Rivera and we'll go with, um... Rice. What's that? Doesn't sound fair? OK, we'll spot you a run."

Frayed Knot May 28 2013 10:05 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Duda doing an actual interview with Harold Reynolds & co on MLBN Even cracked a couple of jokes.

metsmarathon May 28 2013 10:06 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Dura was just on MLB tonight. Was asked, facing Mariano, did you like your chances? Said duda, "honestly, no."

Zvon May 28 2013 10:11 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

MFS62 wrote: Thanks for the explanations. Tejada better clear up his vision by pulling his head out of his ass. Omar Quintanilla is hitting .323 at Las Vegas. Lter Didn't Mr Q eat up the Skanks once upon a time? Great game. > Another nice pitching performance from the Mattman. > Murphy robbed twice by Gardner twice gets a form of revenge. > Mariano the great does not even get an out. 1st blown save this season. Last time at Citi. We walk off. > Duda acting alive during post interview.

Edgy MD May 28 2013 10:41 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

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John Cougar Lunchbucket May 29 2013 05:49 AM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Centerfield May 29 2013 07:56 AM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Awesome. Rivera may be a great closer and all, but I tell you, he has a tendency to blow it in big situations.

metirish May 29 2013 08:01 AM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

They showed some numbers last night as he came in to pitch, his ERA against the Mets is second highest all time for him next to the Angels....over 3....

batmagadanleadoff May 29 2013 09:21 AM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Faint Praise and Madoff Free Megdal The night Lucas Duda beat Mariano Rivera By Howard Megdal 10:53 am May. 29, 2013 Lucas Duda hits Mariano Rivera's cutter. MLB.com Though manager Terry Collins said all the right things about building on Tuesday night's 2-1 victory over the Yankees at Citi Field, team, fans (and owners, naturally) realize there probably won't be too many bright spots this season. This may well top the list. In a ninth-inning rally as surprising as it was inspiring to those fans who stuck through a 91-minute rain delay, consecutive hits from Daniel Murphy, David Wright and Lucas Duda ended Mariano Rivera's night with a blown save, and no recorded outs. That's the first time in Rivera's career that ever happened, by the way. And it took his opponents 1,072 tries to get there. The Mets didn't exactly crush Rivera's pitches. Murphy's double was of the bloop variety, settling just on the fair side of the left field line. Wright's line drive was the hardest-hit ball of the inning, scoring Murphy. But Wright only got to second base on the throw when center fielder Brett Gardner threw over the cutoff man, putting the winning run in scoring position for Duda. As Duda put it, "I took a swing and shattered my bat into 50 pieces. Luckily, it just went over the second baseman’s head." Duda hit a cutter, Rivera's trademark pitch. And he hit it, as he said, "just enough." Terry Collins, whose flirtation with laissez-faire management has apparently given way to doing things like batting Ike Davis eighth, he explained the Mets' strategy this way: "You can't figure it out. There's no words to explain it." The game over, Yankee fans took to Twitter to explain to Mets fans how terrible their team is, as if anyone is more aware of that than Mets fans themselves. But the Mets have won three in a row, not thanks to an offense that has scored five runs or fewer in 22 straight games, but because of three solid-or-better pitching performances, the best of them Tuesday night from Matt Harvey. It's hard to know precisely how to illustrate Harvey's greatness in a single moment. Is it the eight innings without a walk, but ten strikeouts? Is it reaching 98 miles per hour with his fastball on his 106th pitch? Is it the slider he threw to Robinson Cano with two on in the third that dropped a foot? It's all of this. And the one run he gave up came thanks to an outfield misplay by Marlon Byrd that allowed Brett Gardner to take second after a single. Harvey's greatness, then, is clear to everyone. As for the meaning of the win itself, Mets fans have no illusions. This Mets' offense proved it's too potent for Mariano Rivera just like Matt Franco proved, back in 1999, that no pitcher could get him out when it mattered, or Omir Santos proved in 2009 that he was the heir apparent to Mike Piazza. David Robertson gave up the lead Monday night, proving the best setup man in baseball can have a bad night. And Rivera, on a night he was honored by the Mets for an iconic career, proved even the best closer there's ever been can occasionally give up the game. The gloating Yankee fans are missing the point. The Mets and their fans, especially through this dark half-decade, are well aware that there will be no meaningful baseball in Flushing for a while. The Yankees are better, sure, and Rivera's the very best. For once, though, Lucas Duda was too much for them to handle. http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/s ... ano-rivera

Frayed Knot May 29 2013 09:28 AM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Centerfield wrote: Rivera may be a great closer and all, but I tell you, he has a tendency to blow it in big situations. Trying to start trouble again, aren't you?

Frayed Knot May 29 2013 09:37 AM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

I heard some brief talk about it concerning Murph's GW single on Monday but I didn't listen to any talk radio since then or read any papers today so I'm not sure about last night's game and therefore need info on what seems to be paramount on the minds of Yanx fans whenever they lose a close one to the Mets: * Did the blue & orange celebrate too much? This always seems to be a major complaint among YLDBs and even occasionally from the MFY front office types going back to the Matt Franco single (Best. Inter. League. Game. Ever.) and several since then; that the players act as if they just won Game of the WS instead of a game in May or June and that they're not a good enough squad to do so. So I think we need to hear from the YLDBs on whether or not the boys behaved properly for MFY standards or if Duda's "c'mon" gesture after his hit broke some unwritten rule about how to act when you've slain the king. At least he didn't do it on hallowed Bronx ground, who knows what the penalty for that would be for that!

Edgy MD May 29 2013 09:59 AM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Yankees invented the post-game on-field pieface, right?

G-Fafif May 29 2013 10:01 AM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

MFYs pass a "Happy Walkoff" card around the clubhouse, sign their names and leave it on the chair in front of the locker of whoever got the big hit. Just like in an office.

Zvon May 29 2013 01:44 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Grrrr. DeJaVuey a lil bit. Lets hope this does not become a routine I would not fancy. But it was a great catch, again off Muffy. I'm looking for a .gif or a clip that shows Duda waving out his teammates to come and pay tribute to Rivera with him after the big hit. To me, that was the highlight of any celebrations. I don't think the Mets overdid it at all. What they did there last night was a pretty big deal.

Zvon May 29 2013 02:00 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

K, I'm done. Bring on the night!

batmagadanleadoff May 29 2013 02:01 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Wright hopes Mets' walk-off win over Yankees can propel season Yes, Virginia .... (/rolls eyes)

Ceetar May 29 2013 02:03 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

The Duda bit was on the broadcast. I should just shell out the money for MLB.TV. that gives me access to the archives right? What's another..whatever it costs next to the nearly 400k I'm spending this month right?

Swan Swan H May 29 2013 02:12 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Wright hopes Mets' walk-off win over Yankees can propel season Yes, Virginia .... (/rolls eyes) Batmags approved version: Reporter: Big hit there, David. Wright: Yeah, but who cares? I know it doesn't matter. Cynical Mets fans insist that I feel no optimism or sense of achievement. I suck, my team sucks, and any expression other than than is to be met with derision and mocking. Doooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Zvon May 29 2013 02:30 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Zvon wrote: Zvon wrote: What amazed me, in the original pic, was that it showed that fans have been nickled and dimed through-out history. I've seen set-ups like this before in old photos, but always thought they were just outdoor boards that were there to view for free. But they were free, weren't they? I mean, there's the display right downtown for everyone to see. And the full details in the Evening Telegram was stuff you couldn't put on a board anyway--the game write-up, the sportswriters ragging on McGraw for playing Beals Becker instead of Josh Devore, etc. That's what I thought, and always thought. But reading that article and seeing the admission prices in the photo makes me think they somehow made it so only payees could be in front of that board. That does appear to be outdoors. Went over that article again (really a very good read) after the game and it looks like they did have free versions of these. I guess the papers figured they would draw a crowd. Two years later, newspapers, themselves, got into the act, starting with Joseph Pulitzer’s The World in New York. They erected a ball-field diagram with holes for colored, numbered pins representing the players. It quickly attracted a crowd estimated at about 6,000 people (the pic above), blocking traffic on the nearby Brooklyn Bridge.

Fman99 May 29 2013 02:55 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Just watched it in real time on the SNY encore. Good stuff.

batmagadanleadoff May 29 2013 03:13 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

What amazed me, in the original pic, was that it showed that fans have been nickled and dimed through-out history. I've seen set-ups like this before in old photos, but always thought they were just outdoor boards that were there to view for free. But they were free, weren't they? I mean, there's the display right downtown for everyone to see. And the full details in the Evening Telegram was stuff you couldn't put on a board anyway--the game write-up, the sportswriters ragging on McGraw for playing Beals Becker instead of Josh Devore, etc. That's what I thought, and always thought. But reading that article and seeing the admission prices in the photo makes me think they somehow made it so only payees could be in front of that board. That does appear to be outdoors. Went over that article again (really a very good read) after the game and it looks like they did have free versions of these. I guess the papers figured they would draw a crowd. Two years later, newspapers, themselves, got into the act, starting with Joseph Pulitzer’s The World in New York. They erected a ball-field diagram with holes for colored, numbered pins representing the players. It quickly attracted a crowd estimated at about 6,000 people (the pic above), blocking traffic on the nearby Brooklyn Bridge. Scroll down a bit for the case of Shaw's Jewelry Shop, Inc. v. New York Herald Co. http://books.google.com/books?id=IYE7AA ... &q&f=false

Zvon May 29 2013 04:24 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Amazin'. That's a total, right? Not 40,000 at one time, I would think.

metirish May 30 2013 09:01 AM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

David Lengel(Mets fan) in the Guardian wonders why the fuss over Rivera Why did Mets give Mariano Rivera red carpet before showing him the door? Why did the New York Mets organisation make such a fuss of Mariano Rivera before he was unceremoniously ousted with a blown save? Too close for comfort? Yankees relief pitcher Mariano Rivera laughs with former Mets closer John Franco after Franco caught Rivera's ceremonial first pitch. Photograph: Kathy Willens/AP Mo-town I don't know why Mariano Rivera was asked by the Mets to throw out the first pitch before the Yankees final game in Queens this season. I mean I know why but I am not sure I understand it. I mean I understand it but I really don't get it. Rivera is the best modern closer of all-time, that we all know for sure - a classy player who dominated the sport at his position, no doubt. Now in his final season he is enjoying a goodbye tour across baseball, meeting fans from other teams, challenged children, groundskeepers, things like that. It's good stuff, and he has earned the right to do it - I don't have to tell you. There's a limit of course, and that is throwing out the ceremonial first pitch in the Queens ballpark, which he was asked to do by Mets management - naturally he obliged. It's not on Rivera that he took them up on it, who would turn down such a gesture, one from a team he helped bury in the 2000 World Series, picking up two saves, while playing for a franchise that Mets fans were forced to sit and watch as they dominated, won titles, pennants, made playoff appearances, season after season. Mets fans don't like the Yankees, at all, not a little bit, but Mets management seemed to forget that. Gifts are fine, maybe a few videos on the scoreboard, something like that. They did it for Chipper Jones who tortured the Mets so much he named one of his kids Shea, so why not do it for Mo? That makes sense, but they couldn't help themselves, rolling out the welcome wagon, going one step further than many Mets fans want to see, bestowing a first pitch honor onto him. The problem with the Mets ownership is that they seem to do the details very well. For their opponents that is. Why it was just a few years ago that their brand new stadium opened up with a rotunda that looked like the former home of the Brooklyn Dodgers and it barely had a stitch of Mets stuff inside it. The ushers even wore Phillies-esque colors: a nice touch, especially if you're from Philadelphia. It's hard to build a stadium, it takes a long time to design, and there's a lot to consider - a challenge for sure. You know what's easy? Putting some Mets stuff in it. They didn't do that until forced by their own fans. Here's another thing, the Mets have retired exactly one Mets players' number in 50 years of existence, Tom Seaver's 41 (Gil Hodges did play for the Mets but his number is retired for his managing, as is Casey Stengals'). You want to have an ultra strict policy on retiring numbers and limit it to home grown Hall-of-Fame players, which seems to be the case? That's a decision a fan can respect. Here's what you don't have to do - take three of the franchise's most cherished player numbers, the 16 Dwight Gooden wore, the 17 of Keith Hernandez, the 18 of Daryl Strawberry, and routinely throw it onto the backs of nobodies, the latest being Rick Ankiel, who is donning Doc's digits. Fans notice, and it leaves a bad taste. It's easy just to not issue the number at all, and fans will respect you for it. One more easy thing to do, or in this case, not to do. Jeff Wilpon, son of owner Fred Wilpon, doesn't need to stand up next to Mariano Rivera during a press conference and say "Wish we could see you in the World Series but I'm not sure if that's going to happen.'' It took Rivera, the Yankee, to try and save Wilpon saying "You never know.'' Unfortunately for Mets fans, it's not the first time ownership has spoken up in a negative way about its players, which can sometimes make them wonder whether they actually like the Mets or they like owning the Mets? Fortunately for Mets fans, the above and beyond kindness the organization showed Rivera did not filter down to the players. On the night that Mo threw out that first pitch, he returned to get hammered in the ninth inning, blowing a save while failing to retire a batter for the first time in his career, as the Mets swept the Queens portion of their home and home four game series. Ownership will have one more chance to honor Rivera, when he returns to Flushing for his final All-Star Game appearance in July. http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/ma ... ets-wilpon I agree , plus, the Jeffy comment while no doubt true is just annoying....fuck off you twat.

Edgy MD May 30 2013 09:35 AM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

I think I disagree. The team went too far? Boo-hoo. We get to be kids and be miserly, but somebody's got to be the grownups and remind us that we just look petty. I wanted none of it, but it cost us little to put aside the petulance for a minute, and we ended up taking the game from him. Win-win, as far as I can see it. And to pour in the "retired number" bit? Mercy. Why care? They'll retire a number when they've had a player give the team a career that makes an incontrovertible case for it. Which is what they really need to be working on. Retiring 17 or 36 or 8 won't make those players' careers better than they were or our memories richer. Not retiring them won't diminish them. The Mets play good ball, all these ancillary PR issues likely take care of themselves. They play bad ball (as they have most of the season), all these non-issues get inflated. And there are no satisfactory choices. It's always passing strange when a media outlet declares that something isn't really bad, but the PR arm of the organization makes it look bad. You're the media. The filter. If that disconnect is there, if something is actually better than (or worse than) it looks, you're responsible for clearing it up.

Fman99 May 30 2013 09:44 AM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Edgy MD wrote: The Mets play good ball, all these ancillary PR issues likely take care of themselves. They play bad ball (as they have most of the season), all these non-issues get inflated. And there are no satisfactory choices. This is it. Right here. Reporters are bored with writing "hey, the Mets suck again," so they change angles to "hey, the Mets front office is clueless again." It's nice to have pistachio ice cream if you've been eating vanilla for six weeks.

Zvon May 30 2013 01:23 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Zvon wrote: K, I'm done. Bring on the night! 1) I throw these things together real fast some times and I think it may be funny...it sounds funny going thru my fingers to the keys. But I just re-read that and it makes no sense. Mariano could have thrown out the first and last pitch and won the game. Some one make that funny like its supposed to be. 2) Gonna dump this here and on the Jeff history thread. Its a Zvon double play!

Edgy MD May 30 2013 01:25 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Young Brandon Cruz was a Mets fan?

Zvon May 30 2013 01:26 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Edgy MD wrote: Young Brandon Cruz was a Mets fan? Wow. That's pullin a rabbit out of your hat. Courtship of Eddies Father.

Swan Swan H May 30 2013 01:26 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Edgy MD wrote: Young Brandon Cruz was a Mets fan? Mrs. Livingston was Kaz Matsui's aunt.

Zvon May 30 2013 01:31 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Swan Swan H wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Young Brandon Cruz was a Mets fan? Mrs. Livingston was Kaz Matsui's aunt. Get out!

Swan Swan H May 30 2013 01:36 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

I made that up.

Edgy MD May 30 2013 01:44 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Not really a rabbit. Cooby's got a mad crush on Brandon going back four decades. I've got a mad crush on The Bad News Bears going back almost as long. Totally him, though.

Zvon May 30 2013 01:49 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Okay Eddie, today we can either play baseball or try and look under Mrs. Livingstones dress again.

Swan Swan H May 30 2013 01:50 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

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Zvon May 30 2013 01:55 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Harry Nilsson. RIP. I've been a big fan ever since "The Point". I still have not been able to find a stereo recording of that theme. I have tried real hard over the years. I don't think one exists.

Edgy MD May 30 2013 02:10 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

I betcha Brandon Cruz has cut a stereo version. [youtube:1e795mof]gcwmXEBqKzk[/youtube:1e795mof]

Swan Swan H May 30 2013 02:13 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Look for a song called 'Girlfriend,' which is more or less a rewrite.

Ceetar May 30 2013 02:14 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

[youtube:1yl4bw0v]zebJzF-oW34[/youtube:1yl4bw0v]

Vic Sage May 30 2013 02:24 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

from Wikipedia: ...Nilsson was also commissioned at this time to write and perform the theme song for the ABC television series The Courtship of Eddie's Father. The result, "Best Friend", was very popular, but Nilsson never released the song on record; the original version of the song (entitled "Girlfriend") was recorded during the making of Aerial Ballet but not included on that LP, and it eventually appeared on the 1995 Personal Best anthology, and as a bonus track on a later release of Aerial Ballet.

Zvon May 30 2013 02:26 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Swan Swan H wrote: Look for a song called 'Girlfriend,' which is more or less a rewrite. I have almost all his recordings. I'm aware of Girlfriend and how the theme was based on that. Not sure if that was from an old album or the anthology. Don't get me started on Harry. I won't shut up.

Swan Swan H May 30 2013 02:28 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Jeez, Ceetar, if you're going to put up a different song called 'Girlfriend,' at least put up something decent. [youtube:37five3q]Q9aWPTCc2r0[/youtube:37five3q]

Swan Swan H May 30 2013 02:29 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Zvon wrote: Swan Swan H wrote: Look for a song called 'Girlfriend,' which is more or less a rewrite. I have almost all his recordings. I'm aware of Girlfriend and how the theme was based on that. Not sure if that was from an old album or the anthology. Don't get me started on Harry. I won't shut up. Sounds like a worthwhile thread to start.

Vic Sage May 30 2013 02:32 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

already done: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=15653&hilit=nillson

batmagadanleadoff May 30 2013 03:07 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Zvon wrote: Okay Eddie, today we can either play baseball or try and look under Mrs. Livingstones dress again. Bill Bixby made the cover of TV Guide as a cast member of four different TV shows. I think that's a record. (But Lucy might have that record, or at least tied Bixby, what with all of the later incarnations of I Love Lucy.

batmagadanleadoff May 30 2013 03:10 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Harry Nilsson. RIP. I've been a big fan ever since "The Point". I still have not been able to find a stereo recording of that theme. I have tried real hard over the years. I don't think one exists. http://www.amazon.com/Televisions-Great ... B000000GOL

Zvon May 30 2013 03:30 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 30 2013 03:40 PM

Harry Nilsson. RIP. I've been a big fan ever since "The Point". I still have not been able to find a stereo recording of that theme. I have tried real hard over the years. I don't think one exists. http://www.amazon.com/Televisions-Great ... B000000GOL Got that, just for the theme. Its not in stereo :( ( and a pretty bad quality, IIRC). Pretty sure I still have all of my Harrys stuff on the drive. I'll look see. I watched and was a fan of My Favorite Martian (was that right before Ed Sullivan? Or After?) and Courtship. Didn't get into The Magician and The Hulk, tho I saw quite a few eps of both cuz one of my younger brothers was way into those shows. OE: The theme off that CD is not horrible bad quality. Very compressed (the orig, not the mp3 copy) but much cleaner/clearer than I remembered. I bet he went into the studio and knocked that out in a half hour.

Zvon May 30 2013 03:39 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

OE:you would think Id know how to do this shit by now, lol.

batmagadanleadoff May 30 2013 03:42 PM Re: MFY @ NYM 5/28/13

Harry Nilsson. RIP. I've been a big fan ever since "The Point". I still have not been able to find a stereo recording of that theme. I have tried real hard over the years. I don't think one exists. http://www.amazon.com/Televisions-Great ... B000000GOL Got that, just for the theme. Its not in stereo :( ( and a pretty bad quality, IIRC). Pretty sure I still have all of my Harrys stuff on the drive. I'll look see. I watched and was a fan of My Favorite Martian (was that right before Ed Sullivan? Or After?) and Courtship. Didn't get into The Magician and The Hulk, tho I saw quite a few eps of both cuz one of my younger brothers was way into those shows. OE: The theme off that CD is not horrible bad quality. Very compressed (the orig, not the mp3 copy) but much cleaner/clearer than I remembered. I bet he went into the studio and knocked that out in a half hour. I have that CD. The sound on the Courtship theme is somewhat muddy, I'd agree, but not awful. I bet they taped it right off of the TV show.