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Closer Dough, Since Benitez
| Edgy MD May 27 2013 08:50 AM |
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| Ceetar May 27 2013 09:06 AM Re: Closer Dough, Since Benitez |
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Frankie and Wagner, more Wagner than K-Rod, were useful players. overpaid sure, but plenty of effect anyway. Of course Wagner sucked against St. Louis but that can happen to anyone in extremely small samples. Got us to the playoffs and was part of the reason they were competitive in 2007 and his injury killed them in 2008. Although looking at it now, Willie really should've leaned on Wags twice as hard down the stretch in 2007.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket May 27 2013 09:08 AM Re: Closer Dough, Since Benitez |
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Wagner was an incredible waste of money, and Omar showed how little he learned by giving an even stoopider contract to Roodriguez. Even when the Mets had money they were idiots with it.
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| metirish May 27 2013 09:56 AM Re: Closer Dough, Since Benitez |
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No doubt about it, Omar was a real putz when it came to the closer role......
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| Frayed Knot May 27 2013 10:30 AM Re: Closer Dough, Since Benitez |
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When the Rodriguez deal was made there were a lot of Met fans who thought it was great on account of they were clamoring for a deal on the order of 5/$75 - so when it came out at "only" 3/$40 (or whatever it wound up being) it seemed like a bargain to many. Speaking of closers, how ya like the week Jimmy Johnson's having in Baltimore? Guy hadn't blown a game since some time early last year; now he's crashed and burned in 4 of his last 6 outings giving up 12 runs in just 5 innings work over that time including blowing a 3-run lead yesterday. Prior to Sunday there hadn't been a 3-run/1-inning save blown all year; then yesterday there were two. Johnson was one, then in Fenway Chris Perez had a 3-run lead to protect for the Injuns then not only fell apart but got hurt in the process. With two runs already in and two more runners on base, he grabbed his arm in the middle of pitching to Jacoby Ellsbury. Unable to continue, the Tribe brought in ex-NYM Joe Smith to finish the AB ... and Ellsbury lined his first pitch into LCF for a 2-RBI game winner. So technically Smith gets the 'BS' even though the ugly work was done mostly by Perez who, by the looks of things, could be out for a while.
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| batmagadanleadoff May 27 2013 10:35 AM Re: Closer Dough, Since Benitez |
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Probably. But you can go both ways on this issue. A wealthy team can afford the luxurious price tag a proven closer will command as a free agent. Those acquisitions look bad in hindsight not only because those relievers didn't perform as expected, but because it turned out that the Mets, unbeknownst to us, were financial posers, living beyond their means.
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| metirish May 27 2013 10:41 AM Re: Closer Dough, Since Benitez |
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Perhaps , I think Omar's nadir when it came to this role was bringing in Putz for the 8th inning job, it was going to be a dream scenario....unfortunately for various reasons it never panned out.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket May 27 2013 10:44 AM Re: Closer Dough, Since Benitez |
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That's true to an extent. But the Mets problem after 08 wasn't only that they made a show of relievers, it was doing so without being bothered to get an outfield together, or look seriously at a manager. And that at some level had to do with a decision as to where to deploy their resources.
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| Frayed Knot May 27 2013 10:47 AM Re: Closer Dough, Since Benitez |
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That was a case of wishful thinking, as in wishing the Putz wasn't actually hurt.
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| Ashie62 May 27 2013 11:22 AM Re: Closer Dough, Since Benitez |
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All closers are overpaid....
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| Edgy MD May 27 2013 11:52 AM Re: Closer Dough, Since Benitez |
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Yeah, if I have money to spend, spending it on the top free agent closer always seems stupid. There's just nobody "proven"" enough. It's just too volatile a role to ever think you have locked up.
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