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Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 17 2013 12:27 PM

This evening begins the lengthy summer road trip hot streak that brings the Mets improbably roaring to life again. Gee v. Hudson, 7:10. Be there.

Frayed Knot Jun 17 2013 01:45 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Those who are tardy do not get fruit cup.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 17 2013 02:00 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Lookie here Lagares CF Muffy Wright Duda 1B Byrd RF Buck C Nieuwenhuis LF Quintanilla SS Gee P

Edgy MD Jun 17 2013 02:06 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Dillon Gee's last three games, pitching for his professional life, in a situation that could demoralize a mutant hybrid of Shirley Temple and Knute Rockne. Opp Rslt Dec IP H R ER BB SO HR HBP ERA May 30 @NYY W,3-1 W(3-6) 7.1 4 1 1 0 12 1 0 1.27 Jun 5 @WSN W,10-1 W(4-6) 7 9 1 1 1 7 0 0 1.29 Jun 12 STL W,5-1 W(5-6) 6.2 6 1 1 2 7 1 0 1.45 Total 18-3 3-0 21.0 19 3 3 3 26 2 0 1.29

Benjamin Grimm Jun 17 2013 02:44 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Frayed Knot wrote: Those who are tardy do not get fruit cup. High Anxiety, right? I love that movie!

themetfairy Jun 17 2013 02:54 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Those who are tardy do not get fruit cup. High Anxiety, right? I love that movie! Yes - classic line!

Frayed Knot Jun 17 2013 02:59 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Been looking for an excuse to spring that line. JCL's "Be There" comment gave me the opening.

Zvon Jun 17 2013 03:24 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Lookie here Lagares CF Muffy Wright Duda 1B Byrd RF Buck C Nieuwenhuis LF Quintanilla SS Gee P Wow. Moving Duda to first earlier than I would have thought. I didn't think they'd do that until they totally gave up on Ike. Now this is interesting.

Zvon Jun 17 2013 03:26 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

themetfairy wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Those who are tardy do not get fruit cup. High Anxiety, right? I love that movie! Yes - classic line! Classic movie imo. Not his best but being a big fan of Hitchcock movies made this all the more funny.

Ceetar Jun 17 2013 03:38 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Zvon wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Lookie here Lagares CF Muffy Wright Duda 1B Byrd RF Buck C Nieuwenhuis LF Quintanilla SS Gee P Wow. Moving Duda to first earlier than I would have thought. I didn't think they'd do that until they totally gave up on Ike. Now this is interesting. I suspect is Valdespin they're giving up on.

Edgy MD Jun 17 2013 03:42 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

I more than suspect it. I wonder if Valdy's Met career is in endgame right now.

metirish Jun 17 2013 03:46 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Good move, and I don't care if they said last week that Duda would not be going to first.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 17 2013 04:15 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

I think it does say something about Ike too. I mean, were he hitting 300 with a coupla dingers in Vegas I don't think we'd be seeing this tonight.

Zvon Jun 17 2013 05:11 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Ceetar wrote: Zvon wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Lookie here Lagares CF Muffy Wright Duda 1B Byrd RF Buck C Nieuwenhuis LF Quintanilla SS Gee P Wow. Moving Duda to first earlier than I would have thought. I didn't think they'd do that until they totally gave up on Ike. Now this is interesting. I suspect is Valdespin they're giving up on. As painful as it was I still think he needs more time at second to be properly judged. But if that's all the time Collins has for that experiment then so be it. I imagine that Terry is also being judged and he needs to win games. John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I think it does say something about Ike too. I mean, were he hitting 300 with a coupla dingers in Vegas I don't think we'd be seeing this tonight. I totally agree with that.

Zvon Jun 17 2013 05:13 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Getting some good use out of this one.

Frayed Knot Jun 17 2013 05:20 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Zvon wrote: As painful as it was I still think [Veldespin] needs more time at second to be properly judged. But if that's all the time Collins has for that experiment then so be it. I imagine that Terry is also being judged and he needs to win games. It's not his 2B play that's being judged as wanting here, it's his hitting.

Zvon Jun 17 2013 05:55 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Frayed Knot wrote: Zvon wrote: As painful as it was I still think [Veldespin] needs more time at second to be properly judged. But if that's all the time Collins has for that experiment then so be it. I imagine that Terry is also being judged and he needs to win games. It's not his 2B play that's being judged as wanting here, it's his hitting. I understand that. I said a while back that we should take an extended look at him. I was thinking in the outfield, but whatever. See what he can do with some regular playing time at one position. And his lack of hitting is the hard part to sit thru. For the most part he has played an adequate second base. I'm not sure that a weeks worth of games is enough of a look. Not complaining. There are a number of ways this team can go now. If they want to give players a shot at showing what they can do, give them fair shots. I'm okay with todays line-up because I think we have to field our best team vs the Braves, and right now, this is it. Maybe they can pick up the Jordany experiment down the line.

Zvon Jun 17 2013 06:00 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

themetfairy Jun 17 2013 06:13 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Triple header tomorrow?

Edgy MD Jun 17 2013 07:05 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

themetfairy wrote: Triple header tomorrow? They can't bump Harvey tomorrow (cause he's their best weapon), and they can't bump Wheeler (because half his hometown is planning to be there and that's just bad form), but Gee's a hot hand and you don't want to skip him either. If they have a double header on Wednesday, then I guess Gee and Marcum go then. Else, you probably gotta bump Marcum, right?

Swan Swan H Jun 17 2013 07:41 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

10:05, sez Uncle Fester. That means they could conceivably play three games within 24 hours.

Zvon Jun 17 2013 07:43 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Swan Swan H wrote: 10:05, sez Uncle Fester. That means they could conceivably play three games within 24 hours. damn,lol. Im sure its not the case but doesn't it feel like this stuff only happens to the Mets?

Edgy MD Jun 17 2013 07:45 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Well, it's most certainly happening to the Braves as well. Who's Uncle Fester?

Zvon Jun 17 2013 07:48 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Edgy MD wrote: Well, it's most certainly happening to the Braves as well. Who's Uncle Fester? I would never have considered their perspective. You might be making me a better person. Nope, still don't.

Swan Swan H Jun 17 2013 07:49 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Chris Carlin

Zvon Jun 17 2013 07:51 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Swan Swan H wrote: Chris Carlin lol. And in a few years he'll be Alfred Hitchcock. And we have come full circle. High anxiety waiting for this game to start

Zvon Jun 17 2013 07:55 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Frayed Knot wrote: Those who are tardy do not get fruit cup. So its safe to say the Mets lose out on the cup0fruit. Okay, and the Braves.

Frayed Knot Jun 17 2013 07:57 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Chris Carlin lol. And in a few years he'll be Alfred Hitchcock. He seems to be right in the middle of saying: "Good Eeeeven-ning" in that shot.

Zvon Jun 17 2013 08:16 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

What happened to that 10:05 start?

Ceetar Jun 17 2013 08:21 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Zvon wrote: What happened to that 10:05 start? still hopeful.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 17 2013 08:25 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Three hour+ rain delays are awesome

Ceetar Jun 17 2013 08:28 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

obligatory Rangers Slip N Slide on the Shea Tarp? [youtube]zNOAhdvRVtc[/youtube]

Swan Swan H Jun 17 2013 08:30 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Just checking - Rick Camp is really dead, right?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 17 2013 08:35 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Rain delay theater. This is how Lunchpail went to school today. He was to present a report on David Wright.

metsmarathon Jun 17 2013 08:37 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

brilliant!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 17 2013 08:50 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Tarp is off, 1st pitch soon.

Zvon Jun 17 2013 08:54 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Rain delay theater. This is how Lunchpail went to school today. He was to present a report on David Wright. Wow :) They do grow so fast, huh? PLAYBALL!

Swan Swan H Jun 17 2013 08:56 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Six runs scored in Anaheim before the first pitch in Atlanta.

Zvon Jun 17 2013 09:01 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Wright gets around nice on a pitch and lines a single to left. Duda talks with his bat: " I LIKE FIRST BASE!" singles. Byrd strands em. Yep, the Mets are playing baseball. ;)

Zvon Jun 17 2013 09:07 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Gary is right about Gee looking like a different person from the seasons start. A different pitcher....? gettin there.

Zvon Jun 17 2013 09:25 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Now thats what I like to see. Freddy Frakin Freeman leads off with a double, then Gee bears down, executes pitches, and FF is stranded at 2nd.

Swan Swan H Jun 17 2013 09:31 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

A leadoff double stranded? Mets Fever - CATCH IT!

Edgy MD Jun 17 2013 09:41 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

I like Duda running there. Heavy track held his lead feet up, but an aggressive Duda is a gooda Duda.

Swan Swan H Jun 17 2013 09:43 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Edgy MD wrote: I like Duda running there. Heavy track held his lead feet up, but an aggressive Duda is a gooda Duda. The gooda Duda goes well with multigrain crackers and jalapeno jam.

Zvon Jun 17 2013 09:45 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Bucks pissed. I missed the sb attempt and the pick off, whole half inning. oooonice play by Muffy. Was Buck out?

Swan Swan H Jun 17 2013 09:47 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Zvon wrote: Bucks pissed. I missed the sb attempt and the pick off, whole half inning. oooonice play by Muffy. Was Buck out? Buck was safe by a whisker.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 17 2013 09:48 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Looked like he might have just beaten it... just as Mr. Freeman continues to do to baseballs.

Zvon Jun 17 2013 09:48 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Swan Swan H wrote: Bucks pissed. I missed the sb attempt and the pick off, whole half inning. oooonice play by Muffy. Was Buck out? Buck was safe by a whisker. A Parnell whisker or an old Gee whisker? Fuckin Freeman. Gee strands him :)

Swan Swan H Jun 17 2013 09:51 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

He was pretty safe. Call it a Lanny MacDonald mustache hair. Boy, Gee jammed that Eppy Glottis guy.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 17 2013 09:53 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Guys! discourses on Hawkins' big-league origins (he debuted in '95). If he'd gotten a road-girlfriend pregnant that year, that child would now theoretically be able to drive.

Swan Swan H Jun 17 2013 09:55 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Guys! discourses on Hawkins' big-league origins (he debuted in '95). If he'd gotten a road-girlfriend pregnant that year, that child would now theoretically be able to drive. And he still looks ten years younger than Scott Atchison.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 17 2013 10:08 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Gee through 5, unmolested. We're through the Coca-Cola-logo-emblazoned looking glass, folks.

Zvon Jun 17 2013 10:11 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Ha! Guess who sucks?

Swan Swan H Jun 17 2013 10:16 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Dagnabbit. Byrd smokes one right at the best shortstop in the league.

Zvon Jun 17 2013 10:18 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Duda 3 fer 3 . And if you heard what Gary said, I think Duda taking ground balls at the position a few days ago was his way of telling Collins that was what he wanted to do. Play first. Uggla. The correct answer was: Uggla.

Zvon Jun 17 2013 10:24 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

That might be the weirdest pop out to second I've ever seen. Murphy ran out, stopped, looked at his watch, and then stuck his glove out and caught it.

Zvon Jun 17 2013 10:25 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Uggla even sucks at great plays.

Swan Swan H Jun 17 2013 10:29 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Zvon wrote: Uggla even sucks at great plays. Unfortunately, Chris Johnson doesn't.

Zvon Jun 17 2013 10:30 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Niiiice. Gee drives in Buck for a lead!

Zvon Jun 17 2013 10:38 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

When did they start this rookie of the month shit?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 17 2013 10:42 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

I'm not sure, but if I had to guess, I'd say it probably started sometime around the time virtually every elementary-school grade started getting a "graduation" ceremony.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 17 2013 10:48 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Doodoo is 4-for-4. Boom

Zvon Jun 17 2013 10:48 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Duda smashes a doobla. What a night. 4fer4.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 17 2013 10:50 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Byrd of course has left him on base 4 times.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 17 2013 10:59 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

For Your Golden Glove Consideration: Daniel Murphy, Second Baseman

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 17 2013 10:59 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Muffy getting down with Leather.

Zvon Jun 17 2013 11:01 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Whoa, Duda with the fine pick of Murphys short throw. That was big. Gee gets thru 8, but he did walk his first batter there. Great job by Gee. Earlier Gary said that Duda has yet to ground into a double play this season. That's crazy talk!

Swan Swan H Jun 17 2013 11:02 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

How about an insurance run?

Zvon Jun 17 2013 11:05 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

It would be nice. So its gonna be Gee til he hits a bump? I'm usually okay with this, I endorse it most times, but tonight I'm thinkin Parnell by a whisker.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 17 2013 11:06 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Zvon wrote: Earlier Gary said that Duda has yet to ground into a double play this season. That's crazy talk! It's not so much the speed or the flyball tendencies, as it is the fact that most middle infielders are terrified that Boo's going to burn down their garage, or murder a pet of theirs.

Zvon Jun 17 2013 11:07 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Oh, Uggla only sucks with the glove. He don't love the glove.

Swan Swan H Jun 17 2013 11:07 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Sheesh, Simmons can play some shortstop.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 17 2013 11:07 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Whoa this Simmons dude is awesome.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 17 2013 11:07 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

The Braves' Simmons, the D-Backs' Gregorius... whattup with all the Dutch shortstop action these days?

Zvon Jun 17 2013 11:13 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Zvon wrote: Earlier Gary said that Duda has yet to ground into a double play this season. That's crazy talk! It's not so much the speed or the flyball tendencies, as it is the fact that most middle infielders are terrified that Boo's going to burn down their garage, or murder a pet of theirs. ____Very funny.

Swan Swan H Jun 17 2013 11:15 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Zvon Jun 17 2013 11:16 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

We're with ya Gee!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 17 2013 11:19 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Gee has simply stunned me. I'd have bet he was done as recently as 3 weeks ago. Geez, here's Freeman. Gulp.

Swan Swan H Jun 17 2013 11:20 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Squeaky bum time.

Zvon Jun 17 2013 11:21 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

A man reaching first in a one run game is a bump to me. And this is a save situation. But Ill still root for Gee to shut the door. Freeman *teeth start chattering

Zvon Jun 17 2013 11:22 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Gee has simply stunned me. I'd have bet he was done as recently as 3 weeks ago. Geez, here's Freeman. Gulp. I think we did vote him off the island.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 17 2013 11:22 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

fuck me.

Swan Swan H Jun 17 2013 11:23 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Sigh.

Zvon Jun 17 2013 11:23 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Damn, baseball is a wicked mistress.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 17 2013 11:23 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Ugh.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 17 2013 11:24 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Bob Costas will be horrified.

Zvon Jun 17 2013 11:25 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

I'm not gonna be mad at Gee. Nor Terry. If Gee wanted the opportunity for his first complete game, he deserved to get it.

Edgy MD Jun 18 2013 06:26 AM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

I blacked out in inning three or four. I'm the worst.

duan Jun 18 2013 06:47 AM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

fuck that shit, the job of the manager is to make hard decisions and to not be afraid of upsetting players for the greater As soon as someone got on Gee should have been pulled, either for Scott Rice (who's held LEFTIES to .477 OPS) or Parnell. All Gee's splits tell you that it was red alert time, above 76 pitches - .897 ops against left handed hitters - .783 ops against JESUS FUCKING WEPT MAKE THE MOVE>

Ceetar Jun 18 2013 07:01 AM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

duan wrote: fuck that shit, the job of the manager is to make hard decisions and to not be afraid of upsetting players for the greater As soon as someone got on Gee should have been pulled, either for Scott Rice (who's held LEFTIES to .477 OPS) or Parnell. All Gee's splits tell you that it was red alert time, above 76 pitches - .897 ops against left handed hitters - .783 ops against JESUS FUCKING WEPT MAKE THE MOVE> Numbers skewed by his earlier starts where he was still getting up to snuff, and mostly small sample stuff. It's a sticky situation though, because I bet Terry uses Parnell in a normal situation, and while you're supposed to manage for the game you're playing and all, tomorrow IS going to be rough with two games and a rookie starter (potential or not, rookie starter). Of course, Parnell does not give up home runs.

Edgy MD Jun 18 2013 07:58 AM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Yabbut, both intuition and numbers suggest that Freeman is the one guy you don't want Gee going after with the game on the line. Game was on the line.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 18 2013 08:02 AM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Freeman destroyed the ball in 2 of 3 trips to that point. I thought as the winning run he probably shouldn't have faced him.

Ashie62 Jun 18 2013 09:15 AM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Terry is an idiot..

Edgy MD Jun 18 2013 10:41 AM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

As somebody who slept through most of the game, I disagree with his choice also, but he'd be called an idiot if he lifted Gee and the bullpen coughed it up too.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 18 2013 11:03 AM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Yup. As usual the failure to win the game rests on the offense. Were it not for Gee's own RBI they'd have lost 2-0.

duan Jun 18 2013 06:04 PM Re: Roadtrip: Mets @ Braves 6/17/13

Ceetar wrote: duan wrote: fuck that shit, the job of the manager is to make hard decisions and to not be afraid of upsetting players for the greater As soon as someone got on Gee should have been pulled, either for Scott Rice (who's held LEFTIES to .477 OPS) or Parnell. All Gee's splits tell you that it was red alert time, above 76 pitches - .897 ops against left handed hitters - .783 ops against JESUS FUCKING WEPT MAKE THE MOVE> Numbers skewed by his earlier starts where he was still getting up to snuff, and mostly small sample stuff. It's a sticky situation though, because I bet Terry uses Parnell in a normal situation, and while you're supposed to manage for the game you're playing and all, tomorrow IS going to be rough with two games and a rookie starter (potential or not, rookie starter). Of course, Parnell does not give up home runs. They were Dillon Gee's career splits. If you were to look at this year alone, you'd be correct in saying that it's a small sample, but you'd also have to say they're actually horrendous over 76 pitches 1.096 OPS against left handed hitters .912 OPS against. Seriously allowing him to face Freeman was a really bad call. I'm not second guessing here, I had a hunch about the numbers and looked them up, they screamed out at me. If you're Terry Collins you should have that figured out