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On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/2013

Edgy MD Jun 18 2013 08:38 PM

Can't go winless forever and ever, Shaun. If the boys can shut the Braves down, a man like you can.

TransMonk Jun 19 2013 10:03 AM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

I'm pulling for him, but Marcum seems like quite the letdown after yesterday's hype.

Edgy MD Jun 19 2013 10:08 AM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Maybe, like getting Mike Torrez after Gooden and Darling in 1984 or maybe Bob Shaw after Seaver and Koosman, but sometimes vet guys find themselves too. I'm counting on it, anyhow. The guy turned in one of the most remarkable relief outings in the team's history last week. Somebody's got to fill a hole until other rooks make their marks. Might as well be him.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 19 2013 10:14 AM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Edgy MD wrote: Maybe, like getting Mike Torrez after Gooden and Darling in 1984 or maybe Bob Shaw after Seaver and Koosman, but sometimes vet guys find themselves too. Bob Shaw was a Met before Seaver (and thus, Koosman) and for a time, was the Mets best starting pitcher.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 19 2013 10:18 AM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Maybe, like getting Mike Torrez after Gooden and Darling in 1984 or maybe Bob Shaw after Seaver and Koosman, but sometimes vet guys find themselves too. Bob Shaw was a Met before Seaver (and thus, Koosman) and for a time, was the Mets best starting pitcher. It was Shaw who taught Gaylord Perry how to throw the spitball.

G-Fafif Jun 19 2013 10:24 AM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

When I was a rookie, I was tutored in locker-room protocol by Mike Torrez and Rusty Staub, two generous guys who went out of their way to make me feel comfortable. From Doc's first autobiography, Heat, in which he swore he was clean, a notion he's since refuted upon the publication of his second autobiography. Nothing in there about Dick Tidrow dousing him with ice water. I haven't read Doc yet, so I don't know if he's changed his tune on any of this to "barbecue sauce, what do I look like -- an underage busboy?"

Edgy MD Jun 19 2013 10:35 AM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

I've clearly conflated Bob Shaw with Seaver/Koosman-rookie-era relief filler Don Shaw.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 19 2013 10:43 AM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Edgy MD wrote: I've clearly conflated Bob Shaw with Seaver/Koosman-rookie-era relief filler Don Shaw. I used to do that all the time, until I read Ryczek's book in 2010.

Edgy MD Jun 19 2013 11:14 AM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Edgy MD wrote: I've clearly conflated Bob Shaw with Seaver/Koosman-rookie-era relief filler Don Shaw. I used to do that all the time, until I read Ryczek's book in 2010. A Shavian conflation. A Shavian Conflation, by the way, is opening for The Run-On Sentences tonight at The Grasshopper Lounge. All-ages show!

Swan Swan H Jun 19 2013 11:55 AM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Edgy MD wrote: Edgy MD wrote: I've clearly conflated Bob Shaw with Seaver/Koosman-rookie-era relief filler Don Shaw. I used to do that all the time, until I read Ryczek's book in 2010. A Shavian conflation. A Shavian Conflation, by the way, is opening for The Run-On Sentences tonight at The Grasshopper Lounge. All-ages show! Their co-bill with The Masturbating Fetuses at Arlene's Grocery last week was killer.

G-Fafif Jun 19 2013 01:42 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Young - CF Murphy - 2B Wright – 3B Byrd – RF Duda – 1B Buck – C Nieuwenhuis – LF Quintanilla – SS Marcum – RHP

Edgy MD Jun 19 2013 01:44 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Told ye. Nieuwie's now a leftfielder.

Swan Swan H Jun 19 2013 01:56 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Finally, somebody gets #22.

smg58 Jun 19 2013 05:23 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Neither Murphy nor Wright gave Young much chance to steal. I guess that's a re-adjustment that needs to be made. Marcum has a 5.43 ERA and a 3.05 FIP. That's a really large discrepancy. Hopefully that means he's due for some good luck.

Edgy MD Jun 19 2013 06:17 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

The gray numbers and letters on the blue jersey make some sense in theory, but don't work at all in execution.

Edgy MD Jun 19 2013 06:18 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Just had to check the boxscore to make sure Quintanilla wasn't playing second.

Edgy MD Jun 19 2013 06:24 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

My fault. Had to use the bathroom.

Edgy MD Jun 19 2013 06:32 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Wow, getting two runs out of a triple-play grounder.

Frayed Knot Jun 19 2013 06:33 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

WOW! 1) Thank you Mr. Medlen 2) How can you be throwing that ball to 3rd?

Edgy MD Jun 19 2013 06:35 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Broken bat ties the game. So, these are those strange creatures they call "the breaks." I've heard tell of them.

Frayed Knot Jun 19 2013 06:35 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Nice read by Buckminster. He was a lot more sure that that ball was going to fall in than I was. Either that or he was incredibly lucky.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 19 2013 06:58 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Marcum is harshing my buzz. Again.

Fman99 Jun 19 2013 07:02 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Edgy MD wrote: Maybe, like getting Mike Torrez after Gooden and Darling in 1984 or maybe Bob Shaw after Seaver and Koosman, but sometimes vet guys find themselves too. I'm counting on it, anyhow. The guy turned in one of the most remarkable relief outings in the team's history last week. Somebody's got to fill a hole until other rooks make their marks. Might as well be him. That all sounds well and good until you watch him drop a big dumpola on the mound.

Frayed Knot Jun 19 2013 07:03 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

That was one ugly, long-assed, and dragged-out 5th inning.

Zvon Jun 19 2013 07:25 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Here for the comeback. And then I guess they will again give the lead back.

Edgy MD Jun 19 2013 07:36 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Duda looking reasonably comfortable at first.

Zvon Jun 19 2013 07:39 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Torres with a nice 2.1 innings. 4 Ks. Lets keep him.

Edgy MD Jun 19 2013 07:39 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Yup. Torres looking generally impressive. Follow his lead.

Edgy MD Jun 19 2013 07:42 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Cheapie by Satin knocks out Medlen and brings the tying run to the plate.

Zvon Jun 19 2013 07:44 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Edgy MD wrote: Cheapie by Satin knocks out Medlen and brings the tying run to the plate. Ronnie thinks that BUpton was lazy out there. I agree.

Fman99 Jun 19 2013 07:46 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Hey, new guy. Swing the fuckin bat.

Edgy MD Jun 19 2013 07:48 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Did Simmons touch the bag on that DP?

Frayed Knot Jun 19 2013 07:48 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Geez, ya think we've hit into enough GiDPs in this series?

Zvon Jun 19 2013 07:49 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Edgy MD wrote: Did Simmons touch the bag on that DP? fraid so Mmmm, Young is very fast but he's not getting any of my graphic time with at bats like that one.

Frayed Knot Jun 19 2013 07:51 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Edgy MD wrote: Duda looking reasonably comfortable at first. Yeah, but he's ranged too far to his right on several occasions, at least twice he dove for balls that were almost directly at Murphy.

Frayed Knot Jun 19 2013 07:53 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Zvon wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Cheapie by Satin knocks out Medlen and brings the tying run to the plate. Ronnie thinks that BUpton was lazy out there. I agree. He broke back initially, although if he was being lazy it certainly wouldn't be a first for him.

Zvon Jun 19 2013 07:54 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Frayed Knot wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Duda looking reasonably comfortable at first. Yeah, but he's ranged too far to his right on several occasions, at least twice he dove for balls that were almost directly at Murphy. If that isn't an exaggeration I'm even more afraid.

Frayed Knot Jun 19 2013 08:00 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Zvon wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Duda looking reasonably comfortable at first. Yeah, but he's ranged too far to his right on several occasions, at least twice he dove for balls that were almost directly at Murphy. If that isn't an exaggeration I'm even more afraid. It really isn't an exaggeration, it's more a case of Duda not knowing that Muffy was pulled around towards the hole so he Duda went flopping for it. It's actually good that he missed it both times because it made for an easier out although it still unnecessarily forced the pitcher to cover. A more seasoned 1Bman has a better idea of where his 2Bman is.

Edgy MD Jun 19 2013 08:09 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Kimbrel's got to get hurt. Nobody can keep going like this.

Zvon Jun 19 2013 08:12 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Frayed Knot wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Duda looking reasonably comfortable at first. Yeah, but he's ranged too far to his right on several occasions, at least twice he dove for balls that were almost directly at Murphy. If that isn't an exaggeration I'm even more afraid. It really isn't an exaggeration, it's more a case of Duda not knowing that Muffy was pulled around towards the hole so he Duda went flopping for it. It's actually good that he missed it both times because it made for an easier out although it still unnecessarily forced the pitcher to cover. A more seasoned 1Bman has a better idea of where his 2Bman is. I'm okay with him making judgement errors while he adjusts, like in the Harvey game. No excuse for not knowing how your infield is setting up. Come Duds, know your situation. I imagine if he ends up staying there he'll get it down. Might be the best place for him.

Zvon Jun 19 2013 08:13 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Gah. Games over. That was a quiet demise. Mets lose 5-3. boooo

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 19 2013 08:20 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Shitty game. Terrible idea by Young there in the 8th, if he wants to continue doing that he can have another DFA. And eff John Buck for whiffing on 3 pitches following Duda's leadoff hit in the 7th. Oh, and Marcum sucks balls.

Fman99 Jun 19 2013 08:23 PM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

I don't like to use profanity, or hate speech, or anything, but fuck Shawn Marcum, this guy sucks a truck full of cocks.

Edgy MD Jun 20 2013 05:36 AM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Terrible idea by Young there in the 8th, if he wants to continue doing that he can have another DFA. This game is blurry already. Is this about the bunt attempt? John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: And eff John Buck for whiffing on 3 pitches following Duda's leadoff hit in the 7th. I tend to suspect juicing with this guy. He's always angry, always looking to pull, always looking fastball, always bald. He's like Gary Carter on... well, on steroids. John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Oh, and Marcum sucks balls. Mebbe, but we offer him nothing. The only runs he got, he got from the Braves.--- giving Buck a free trip around the bases when he was trying to hit into a triple play.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 20 2013 07:24 AM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Edgy MD wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Terrible idea by Young there in the 8th, if he wants to continue doing that he can have another DFA. This game is blurry already. Is this about the bunt attempt? Both bunt attempts. Got himself in a 0-2 hole for no reason. The bloop hit from Satin was a gift and he was determined to return it. John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: And eff John Buck for whiffing on 3 pitches following Duda's leadoff hit in the 7th. I tend to suspect juicing with this guy. He's always angry, always looking to pull, always looking fastball, always bald. He's like Gary Carter on... well, on steroids. Him and Ike Davis and Heyward and Uggla. John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Oh, and Marcum sucks balls. Mebbe, but we offer him nothing. The only runs he got, he got from the Braves.--- giving Buck a free trip around the bases when he was trying to hit into a triple play. He gave it right back with 2 out and none on. Unreliable healthwise, inconsistent start to start, 0-9 with an ERA near 6.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 20 2013 07:36 AM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

When it's time to drop the rotation from six men to five, it seems like Marcum will be the obvious choice. I just wish he was pitching well enough to be tradeable, but he's not really showcasing himself very well.

Edgy MD Jun 20 2013 07:40 AM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

He certainly coughed it back up. I just think the real issues remain on the offensive. Meanwhoops, I have ESPN blocked at work, so I don't know the details, but Rubin writes today that the Mets can save money on Marcum by releasing him. Um, thanks for the effort, but... .

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 20 2013 07:42 AM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

He has innings-pitched bonusii, kicking in at 120 iirc.

Edgy MD Jun 20 2013 07:43 AM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Well, 120 innings, unfortunately, isn't exactly looming.

Vic Sage Jun 20 2013 08:58 AM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

Edgy MD wrote: He certainly coughed it back up. I just think the real issues remain on the offensive. Yes, if we could only score 7 runs a game, he'd be a real gem. He sux BHMC

Edgy MD Jun 20 2013 09:07 AM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

I can get distortion in many places. Please don't deliberately misread my very minor point. I've already advocated for his release today.

Swan Swan H Jun 20 2013 09:09 AM Re: On Your Marc Get Set: A Call to Arms IGT, Pt. III: 6/19/

There's got to be someone out there who thinks Marcum can be useful and might kick a minor prospect this way if the Mets pick up most of the salary. I'd even take a salary match for a misfit outfielder.