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IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Edgy MD Jun 27 2013 10:34 PM

Ross Detwiler, Washington's fourth-best starter, opposes Matt Harvey, the Mets' (and the world's) very best. But gentelmen, it's still the big leagues, and you still have to play until your asses fall literally off. There are no mismatches here. Friday night, winning baseball being played, back in the New York groove, Matt Harvey, and summer arrived. This game has got it all.

Ceetar Jun 28 2013 04:59 AM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

it even has me!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 28 2013 05:17 AM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

me too. attending tonight with folks from the office.

Swan Swan H Jun 28 2013 07:14 AM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Harvey Friday! Wheeler Sunday! I'm going on Saturday.

Vic Sage Jun 28 2013 08:24 AM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

it's still the big leagues, and you still have to play until your asses fall literally off "Literally"? Their asses have to fall "literally" off? Well, that's a game I'll happily miss, Harvey or no.

Fman99 Jun 28 2013 08:59 AM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Swan Swan H wrote: Harvey Friday! Wheeler Sunday! I'm going on Saturday. Fboy and I also attending Saturday's game on an SU alumni bus junket, sitting in right-center field.

Edgy MD Jun 28 2013 09:57 AM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Vic Sage wrote: it's still the big leagues, and you still have to play until your asses fall literally off "Literally"? Their asses have to fall "literally" off? Well, that's a game I'll happily miss, Harvey or no. The support underwear keeps things in place and spares you any eye-averting moments. Except with Valdespin, who flies commando. That could get ugly.

metirish Jun 28 2013 01:25 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Forecast looks troubling?

Ceetar Jun 28 2013 01:28 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

metirish wrote: Forecast looks troubling? it must, the Mets are playing. I wonder if any of these new All-Star Food will be lurking during this home stand.

Frayed Knot Jun 28 2013 01:29 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

metirish wrote: Forecast looks troubling? Extremely troubling. But how is the weather expected to be for tonight?

Swan Swan H Jun 28 2013 01:32 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Ceetar wrote: metirish wrote: Forecast looks troubling? it must, the Mets are playing. I wonder if any of these new All-Star Food will be lurking during this home stand. The loaded tots are at the Promenade Club. A calorie bomb, but they're hot from the fryer and one order feeds two, easy.

Ashie62 Jun 28 2013 01:34 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

198 degrees with Meteors and a tornado watch.

Edgy MD Jun 28 2013 01:42 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

[list=1:i9c1nu8m][*:i9c1nu8m]Young! Young! Of him they've sung! Shout his name till you burst a lung! lf[/*:m:i9c1nu8m] [*:i9c1nu8m]Murph! Murph! The noble serf! See him prance upon the turf! 2b[/*:m:i9c1nu8m] [*:i9c1nu8m]Wright! Wright! The glorious light! Guides me through the dark of night! 3b[/*:m:i9c1nu8m] [*:i9c1nu8m]Byrd! Byrd! Oh have you heard?! Megdal's found he's not a turd! rf[/*:m:i9c1nu8m] [*:i9c1nu8m]Satin! Satin! The King of Staten! Brooklyn, Queens, the Bronx, Manhatttan! 1b[/*:m:i9c1nu8m] [*:i9c1nu8m]Buck! Buck! The balls he's struck! Have cursed his name and their bad luck! c[/*:m:i9c1nu8m] [*:i9c1nu8m]Juan! Juan! The game is on! Catches balls you thought were gone! cf[/*:m:i9c1nu8m] [*:i9c1nu8m]Q! Q! What can you do?! He grabs the balls you thought were through! ss[/*:m:i9c1nu8m] [*:i9c1nu8m]Harvey! Harvey! He'll slice and carve ye! Reduce your team to squirming larvae! sp[/*:m:i9c1nu8m][/list:o:i9c1nu8m] (I'm a little jazzed about this game.)

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 28 2013 02:07 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Like

Ashie62 Jun 28 2013 02:10 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

My ass fell off..

Lefty Specialist Jun 28 2013 02:16 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Wow. Imagine the songs you could write if they were actually good.

Zvon Jun 28 2013 02:17 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Best lineup post evah

Edgy MD Jun 28 2013 02:49 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Ashie62 wrote: My ass fell off.. I've never before said this about one of those yellow, round, smiley figure that have haunted internet history, but I'm a little turned on. Gosh.

Zvon Jun 28 2013 02:50 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

This is a one and done so I should put it where it belongs. A less gnattier version.

dinosaur jesus Jun 28 2013 02:57 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

If that's what he looks like in tights, ESPN might be making a big mistake.

Lefty Specialist Jun 28 2013 04:43 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

That bullpen cart honestly looks a little creepy, like a funhouse nightmare sort of thing. I think it's the eyes.

Zvon Jun 28 2013 05:07 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 28 2013 05:15 PM

Lefty Specialist wrote: That bullpen cart honestly looks a little creepy, like a funhouse nightmare sort of thing. I think it's the eyes. Or those eyebrows. The cart itself was from an old & different project and those eyebrows precede Satins by a good four years.

Swan Swan H Jun 28 2013 05:15 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Harvey brushes off the first two Nats like gnats.

Zvon Jun 28 2013 05:18 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

A fine first from Mattman. 3 up, 3 down, 2 Ks.

Zvon Jun 28 2013 05:21 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Great to have Keith back 2 yak. Sounds like he just had three cups of coffee.

Ashie62 Jun 28 2013 05:26 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Harvey makes life look easy.

Zvon Jun 28 2013 05:29 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Oh man he's droppin that curve right thru em.

Ashie62 Jun 28 2013 05:31 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

OK..we may need just one run...Keep bringing it

Swan Swan H Jun 28 2013 05:31 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Two whiffs and a fly. Repeat as necessary.

Zvon Jun 28 2013 05:36 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Ashie62 wrote: OK..we may need just one run...Keep bringing it Might need only one but lets get a dozen. This Nat pitcher sucks. Course he's like 4-1 vs the Mets but he still sucks.

Zvon Jun 28 2013 05:43 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

A smattering of rain falling. After two, 0-0.

Ashie62 Jun 28 2013 05:48 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Zvon wrote: Ashie62 wrote: OK..we may need just one run...Keep bringing it Might need only one but lets get a dozen. This Nat pitcher sucks. Course he's like 4-1 vs the Mets but he still sucks. Detwiler may throw a shutout.

Ashie62 Jun 28 2013 05:51 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

NO RAIN DELAYS TONIGHT PLEASE...THANK YOU MR BURNS

Zvon Jun 28 2013 05:52 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Ashie62 wrote: Ashie62 wrote: OK..we may need just one run...Keep bringing it Might need only one but lets get a dozen. This Nat pitcher sucks. Course he's like 4-1 vs the Mets but he still sucks. Detwiler may throw a shutout. This is true because this is baseball. And this is the Mets. But I won't entertain that thought. Agree big time about a rain delay.

Edgy MD Jun 28 2013 06:10 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Let's plate this sexy young cub NOW!!!!

Edgy MD Jun 28 2013 06:10 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Kapowie!

Swan Swan H Jun 28 2013 06:13 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Byrd's hustle rushed Desmond. Easy to pull up when you see you hit it right at a guy.

Edgy MD Jun 28 2013 06:13 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

You can't have Harvey without Desmond!

Lefty Specialist Jun 28 2013 06:14 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Lol at Gary: "Wear your cup, kids."

Swan Swan H Jun 28 2013 06:15 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Need some contact from Bucko.

Edgy MD Jun 28 2013 06:15 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Indeed we do. Two-and-one.

Ashie62 Jun 28 2013 06:17 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

I would have pinch hit for Buck.

Edgy MD Jun 28 2013 06:17 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Not lucky, Bucky.

Edgy MD Jun 28 2013 06:18 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Ashie62 wrote: I would have pinch hit for Buck. You've got to make the call before the strikeout. No points.

Edgy MD Jun 28 2013 06:20 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

I would've pinch-hit for Quintanilla. Grand slam Harvey NOW!!!!

Frayed Knot Jun 28 2013 06:22 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Worst AB of the night goes to Buck.

Ashie62 Jun 28 2013 06:24 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Clubhouse court fines abound that inning....Byrd...Buck...Q-Balll

Edgy MD Jun 28 2013 06:29 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Desmond atones for his error.

themetfairy Jun 28 2013 06:30 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

That was nice while it lasted....

Swan Swan H Jun 28 2013 06:30 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

It's nice for Zach Lutz to get the call, but there really needs to be another guy on the ML roster who can play shortstop. Who goes in if Q is out for 2-3 days? Wright? Valdespin? Do they jettison someone and bring up Hicks or Bixler, neither of whom are on the 40-man? If you were wondering, Young, Satin and Lutz, in addition to their hit single "Sweet Lovin' Baby," have played a total of two games at short (Satin, 2008) in their major and minor league careers.

Ashie62 Jun 28 2013 06:34 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Can any of those three kids catch?

Edgy MD Jun 28 2013 06:36 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Valdespin is the backup shortstop. Wright's the emergency guy. And they certainly would do a callup if Quintanilla got hurt. And probably Lutz would be the guy sent down.

Ashie62 Jun 28 2013 06:37 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

BOOTH: Eric Young Jr. is from Piscatway NJ, not NY..thank you..

Ashie62 Jun 28 2013 06:38 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Edgy MD wrote: Valdespin is the backup shortstop. Wright's the emergency guy. And they certainly would do a callup if Quintanilla got hurt. And probably Lutz would be the guy sent down. Walt Weiss?

Edgy MD Jun 28 2013 06:38 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

No, it's me posting.

Edgy MD Jun 28 2013 06:42 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Young scores on a double by Byrd! WE SHOULDA TRADED HAIRSTON!

Zvon Jun 28 2013 06:44 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

NICE! Man Young can fly. You're BIG byrd! Who hit the homer....Desmond? Gah. AND WHAT A SLIDE FROM BYRD!!

Swan Swan H Jun 28 2013 06:45 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Satin!

Zvon Jun 28 2013 06:46 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

We answered right back. I love that shit.

Lefty Specialist Jun 28 2013 06:48 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

OK Matt, put the hammer down. Treat them like they were the WB Mason kids.

Frayed Knot Jun 28 2013 06:52 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 28 2013 06:53 PM

Early pen day for the Nats. Looks like it'll be Ross Ohlendorf (how often has a Ross relieved a Ross?). He's been good for them in limited opportunities (1 start, 1 relief opp)

Zvon Jun 28 2013 06:53 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Damn. How did Span get a bat on that!??

Edgy MD Jun 28 2013 06:54 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Triples make Harvey angry.

Lefty Specialist Jun 28 2013 06:55 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

No toner for you, Mr. Rendon.

Zvon Jun 28 2013 06:56 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Matts 9th K is a biggy :)

Edgy MD Jun 28 2013 07:01 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Laggy! Laggy! His bunts are draggy! He sometimes gets the extra-baggy.

Swan Swan H Jun 28 2013 07:14 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Ol' Harv has Werth talking to himself.

Edgy MD Jun 28 2013 07:16 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Thanks for swinging 3-0, Desi.

Frayed Knot Jun 28 2013 07:16 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

WOW!! Wasn't expecting that on a 3-0 count.

Edgy MD Jun 28 2013 07:19 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

[bigpurple:1audtb5g]K K K K K K K K K K K[/bigpurple:1audtb5g]

Ashie62 Jun 28 2013 07:20 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Must score Murphy..

Swan Swan H Jun 28 2013 07:24 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Frayed Knot Jun 28 2013 07:30 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Nights in Blue Satin!!

Edgy MD Jun 28 2013 07:30 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Bat like Wright, Satin!

Zvon Jun 28 2013 07:31 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Big run. Satin's having a nice night. Does that mean I make fun of him more, or less?

Frayed Knot Jun 28 2013 07:32 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

I was thinking just before Satin's double that, if I were the Nats, I would have walked him to get to Buck with 1st base open. But, then again, I would walk Miguel Cairo right now to get to Buck and I wouldn't care who was on.

dinosaur jesus Jun 28 2013 07:32 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Zvon wrote: Big run. Satin's having a nice night. Does that mean I make fun of him more, or less? More.

Swan Swan H Jun 28 2013 07:37 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Our 1B - 3 hits, 1 BB, 2 2B, 2 RBI. Their 1B - 2 lousy plays, 0 hits, 2 Ks. Tonight's episode of Small Sample Size Theater has been brought to you by Kraft Miniature Marshmallows.

batmagadanleadoff Jun 28 2013 07:37 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Swan Swan H Jun 28 2013 07:38 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

That's the real deal Harvey. PJ was just keeping the seat warm.

Fman99 Jun 28 2013 07:38 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Good K there for Aaaaaaardsmaaaaaaaa.

Zvon Jun 28 2013 07:39 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

dinosaur jesus wrote: Zvon wrote: Big run. Satin's having a nice night. Does that mean I make fun of him more, or less? More. He deserves a model woman too.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 28 2013 07:39 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

#Satin4Ever #NiceKnowingUTyrna

batmagadanleadoff Jun 28 2013 07:40 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

You don't really expect me to stick around to watch Aardsma pitch, do you?

Zvon Jun 28 2013 07:43 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

batmagadanleadoff wrote: You don't really expect me to stick around to watch Aardsma pitch, do you? Ya just got here! Look on the bench. The real deal Harveys gonna stick it out. Be a man, man.

Zvon Jun 28 2013 07:44 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

.......or maybe we should all stop watching. Laggy does not go Swoboda for us :(

Frayed Knot Jun 28 2013 07:46 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Terry NOT over-playing the lefty/righty thing this inning (IMHO of course). All you want here is to get to Bobby P with as big a lead as possible.

Ashie62 Jun 28 2013 07:46 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Too much use of the bullpen in Baseball now...

dinosaur jesus Jun 28 2013 07:47 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Frayed Knot wrote: Terry NOT over-playing the lefty/righty thing this inning (IMHO of course). All you want here is to get to Bobby P with as big a lead as possible. I'd kind of rather not see Parnell in a third straight game. Not sure who I would like to see, though.

Edgy MD Jun 28 2013 07:49 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Buttloaded bases and Zimmy up. Boos.

Fman99 Jun 28 2013 07:50 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Ugh. I have nervous.

Zvon Jun 28 2013 07:50 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

dinosaur jesus wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Terry NOT over-playing the lefty/righty thing this inning (IMHO of course). All you want here is to get to Bobby P with as big a lead as possible. I'd kind of rather not see Parnell in a third straight game. Not sure who I would like to see, though. It's gotta be Parnell imo. Not for four outs tho. Get thru this Lyon.

Ashie62 Jun 28 2013 07:51 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Booth called it

Fman99 Jun 28 2013 07:51 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

MOTHER FUCKER.

Edgy MD Jun 28 2013 07:51 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

It ain't about Harvey, folks.

Ashie62 Jun 28 2013 07:51 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Harvey is going to get sick of this shit...

Frayed Knot Jun 28 2013 07:52 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Of course, if every single reliever is going to fail then it doesn't matter much what you do.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 28 2013 07:52 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 28 2013 07:54 PM

He's just such a big-ass piece of meat right now. I'll remind you: this started with going lefty-righty to match up better against Denard Span with one on, two out.

Ashie62 Jun 28 2013 07:53 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Edgy MD wrote: It ain't about Harvey, folks. Terry got outmanaged...

Frayed Knot Jun 28 2013 07:53 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

dinosaur jesus wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Terry NOT over-playing the lefty/righty thing this inning (IMHO of course). All you want here is to get to Bobby P with as big a lead as possible. I'd kind of rather not see Parnell in a third straight game. Not sure who I would like to see, though. That's part of the problem in using him for the 3-run "cookie" save two nights ago ... but that's a whole 'nother story altogether.

Swan Swan H Jun 28 2013 07:54 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Ashie62 wrote: Edgy MD wrote: It ain't about Harvey, folks. Terry got outmanaged... Outmanaged? Davey hasn't done anything since he signed the lineup card.

Frayed Knot Jun 28 2013 07:56 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Swan Swan H wrote: Ashie62 wrote: Edgy MD wrote: It ain't about Harvey, folks. Terry got outmanaged... Outmanaged? Davey hasn't done anything since he signed the lineup card. Well yeah he did, he brought in two PHers who both failed to get on, and one reliever who increased the Mets lead.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 28 2013 07:58 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

The thing is... Davey's done less.

Ashie62 Jun 28 2013 08:01 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: The thing is... Davey's done less. The Nationals got the best possible matchup possible Zimmerman with bags juiced.

Swan Swan H Jun 28 2013 08:02 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Ashie62 wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: The thing is... Davey's done less. The Nationals got the best possible matchup possible Zimmerman with bags juiced. After Terry told the relievers to load 'em up, right?

Frayed Knot Jun 28 2013 08:03 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Clippard's one of these relievers who throws a million pitches and takes half a minute between each.

Frayed Knot Jun 28 2013 08:03 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Ashie62 wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: The thing is... Davey's done less. The Nationals got the best possible matchup possible Zimmerman with bags juiced. Yes, that's known as the lineup

Lefty Specialist Jun 28 2013 08:04 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

I'm tired of Brandon Lyon. Nibble, nibble, nibble off the plate, then get behind and have to groove one. DFA his ass.

bmfc1 Jun 28 2013 08:04 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: The thing is... Davey's done less. That's the point, LWFS. Let the players play. Aardsma gave up a ground ball single and got an out but TC had to make the "by the book" move and then all hell broke loose. He used two pitchers to avoid letting Aardsma face a lefty who wasn't the tying run.

Swan Swan H Jun 28 2013 08:06 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Look, could he have used Rice against Span? Probably, but Harvey was done, and the pen is the pen. Who should he have used against Zimmerman? Hawkins? Wheeler? Skip Lockwood?

Fman99 Jun 28 2013 08:09 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

bmfc1 wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: The thing is... Davey's done less. That's the point, LWFS. Let the players play. Aardsma gave up a ground ball single and got an out but TC had to make the "by the book" move and then all hell broke loose. He used two pitchers to avoid letting Aardsma face a lefty who wasn't the tying run. Yeah, I'm kind of on this also. It seems to work 49% of the time. Do you think Casey Stengel was pulling relievers immediately after they got an out? Or Ralph Houk? etc.

Zvon Jun 28 2013 08:10 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

ugh damn, of course LaRoche picks that one.

Swan Swan H Jun 28 2013 08:11 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

The 1961 Yankees had 47 complete games. Nobody was pitching in relief.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 28 2013 08:12 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Fman99 wrote: bmfc1 wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: The thing is... Davey's done less. That's the point, LWFS. Let the players play. Aardsma gave up a ground ball single and got an out but TC had to make the "by the book" move and then all hell broke loose. He used two pitchers to avoid letting Aardsma face a lefty who wasn't the tying run. Yeah, I'm kind of on this also. It seems to work 49% of the time. Do you think Casey Stengel was pulling relievers immediately after they got an out? Or Ralph Houk? etc. To be clear, I'm also on Team Less-Is-More.

Kong76 Jun 28 2013 08:12 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 28 2013 08:18 PM

And anudder t'ing ... tell 'em to stop that Korman stuff too, fatso!

Frayed Knot Jun 28 2013 08:12 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Fman99 wrote: Do you think Casey Stengel was pulling relievers immediately after they got an out? Or Ralph Houk? etc. Stengel is often credited with virtually inventing platooning.

bmfc1 Jun 28 2013 08:13 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: To be clear, I'm also on Team Less-Is-More. I was concurring with you.

Zvon Jun 28 2013 08:14 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Fman99 Jun 28 2013 08:14 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Oh, Mets bullpen. Why must you Mets bullpen me like this?

Frayed Knot Jun 28 2013 08:18 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

The bottom line here is that the entire bullpen -- Parnell included -- have given up more EXTRA BASE HITS than they've gotten outs. If the pen, which has actually been fine lately, is going to act like that there's not much Terry can do about it except for allowing Harvey to go 140 pitches (or more).

Zvon Jun 28 2013 08:20 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Ronnie said it in one word: atrocious.

Fman99 Jun 28 2013 08:21 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

I blame Tony LaRussa for all of this lefty/righty, one inning, one batter reliever bullshit. The best thing he ever did for baseball was to repeatedly get drunk and fall asleep at traffic lights in Florida.

Zvon Jun 28 2013 08:27 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

I needed a smile. thnx Mex. "Too many walks in todays game. I'm tired of it."

themetfairy Jun 28 2013 08:29 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Yes - one day back and Keith is immediately back into grumpy old man mode

Fman99 Jun 28 2013 08:29 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

C'mon, Fish Bird.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 28 2013 08:37 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Frayed Knot wrote: The bottom line here is that the entire bullpen -- Parnell included -- have given up more EXTRA BASE HITS than they've gotten outs. If the pen, which has actually been fine lately, is going to act like that there's not much Terry can do about it except for allowing Harvey to go 140 pitches (or more). In all fairness, Parnell's two hits were a bloop on a nice hitting job by Werth, and a defensive, luckily-placed swing from Desmond. The pitches were decent, if the results were crap. (Compare/contrast to Lyon's walk/grooved gapper to Zimmerman.)

Edgy MD Jun 28 2013 08:40 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Understandable that the bullpen would be gassed. You can send the starters out a day or two early when the travel schedule is brutal. You don't get that luxury with the bullpen. In retrospect, maybe sending out for a fresh arm or two might have been warranted. Continued failure to bring their best selves home with them is a big deal, though. Seems to really keep the fans from getting behind them.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 28 2013 09:41 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Idiotic job over overdoing it by Terry, compounded by a shit effort from Lyon, spoiled everyone's night at the park and destroyed all the momentum this team had on a night everything else was going for them. Eff Terry and eff Lyon.

Ceetar Jun 28 2013 09:43 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Worst type of game, A dominating SP performance and a fast-paced game that grinds to a frustrating multiple-pitching change halt in lead-blowing explosive fashion. bleh! At least I got to talk to (well, listen as the other bloggers talked to since I didn't have a question, Gooden and Nimmo) and got a free shirt with Mr. Met and a gecko on it. (I'm also on the less is more track. Always believe the more pitchers you go to the more likely you are to find the one that simply doesn't have it. At least when the pitcher on the mound isn't actively exploding that is)

Ceetar Jun 28 2013 09:46 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Also, coincidence that they started doing the wave just before the game-tying hit?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 28 2013 09:48 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

btw, didn't understand Byrd not scorng on Satin's hit in the 2nd or 3rd. Right play to tag if he thought it would be caught but clear from my POV it wasn't going to be, Tuffle shoulda been able to see that too. shouldn'tve mattered but of course it did.

Ceetar Jun 28 2013 09:55 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: btw, didn't understand Byrd not scorng on Satin's hit in the 2nd or 3rd. Right play to tag if he thought it would be caught but clear from my POV it wasn't going to be, Tuffle shoulda been able to see that too. shouldn'tve mattered but of course it did. yeah, I forgot about that. One of those where I follow the track of the ball and then look back and do a double take that Byrd was just getting to third. The possibility to score a run is worth the small risk that you don't get to tag up on a nice play. Of course, freaking get a freaking hit/sac fly? That's where they walked Lagares (first since April!) to pitch to Q and Harvey. I guess that's where you credit Davey's managing.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 28 2013 09:58 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Or uncredit Buck for failing to put a ball into play. Boy does he look finished, I believe his BA may have dipped below 200 at some point.

Ceetar Jun 28 2013 10:02 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Or uncredit Buck for failing to put a ball into play. Boy does he look finished, I believe his BA may have dipped below 200 at some point. d'Arnaud would so be here.. How's our favorite German catcher doing?

Ceetar Jun 28 2013 10:04 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Ceetar wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Or uncredit Buck for failing to put a ball into play. Boy does he look finished, I believe his BA may have dipped below 200 at some point. d'Arnaud would so be here.. How's our favorite German catcher doing? He's backing up. sorta maybe hitting okay. not really though. In fact, NONE of them are. Zack Wheeler was hitting better than all of them. fine.

Frayed Knot Jun 28 2013 10:29 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Idiotic job over overdoing it by Terry, compounded by a shit effort from Lyon, spoiled everyone's night at the park and destroyed all the momentum this team had on a night everything else was going for them. Eff Terry and eff Lyon. Lyon's effort was obviously the biggest problem - but the worst part wasn't even the bases-clearing 2B to Zimmerman but the walk to Rendon in front of it. He seemed reluctant to pitch to him (a 2-2 curve and then a 3-2 curve) and I assume that's what Keith was mad at after the game with his "too many walks" comment. I stated at the time that I didn't have a problem with Terry's switches and I'm sticking with that. We needed one more out and he was giving them the best opportunity to do so. The problem was that EVERY reliever failed to some extent in the effort to reach Parnell and then Parnell failed. For all the complaints about the pen they've been quite good recently. Just not tonight. Byrd seemed to mis-read that ball right from the start. It looked to be just a fly to RF at the beginning so he understandably tagged up. Problem was that he never seemed to re-evaluate the situation and was caught tagging long past the time when it was apparent that the ball was headed for the corner. Still, with no outs that shouldn't have been such a problem, but once Buck failed in the next AB I knew we were in trouble with Q coming up vs a LHP and then Harvey. Buck Sucks but Recker is no better and, at this point, if we get d'Arnaud here for a September call up I think that's a sign that things are going well. Most likely we'll see him next April.

Zvon Jun 28 2013 11:56 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: btw, didn't understand Byrd not scorng on Satin's hit in the 2nd or 3rd. Right play to tag if he thought it would be caught but clear from my POV it wasn't going to be, Tuffle shoulda been able to see that too. shouldn'tve mattered but of course it did. At this point I was watching the game with my brother and I didn't go off about this in here, but I did go off. Byrd should not have even gone all the way back to 2nd with that play in front of him. And Buck not even making contact killed us in that spot, I'll agree (with other posts above^). I can't fault Collins. This was a total pen fuck up.

Ashie62 Jun 29 2013 06:21 AM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

How about trading for a journeyman catcher...Not easy I admit, but you can't punt the position in June...

Edgy MD Jun 29 2013 06:39 AM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Trading for a journeryman squatter is easy as squat. The Mets got Shoppach for Beato after the trade deadline last year. The trick is identifying which one will make a difference. Parnell was working his third straight night in a third city in a third time zone. Maybe the right play might have been having two fresh and bushytailed relievers from Vegas meet them Denver, sending two down, and sending two ahead to New York from Chicago.

Edgy MD Jun 29 2013 06:46 AM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Baseball can build you up one day and the next you have to climb a stepladder to stroke a snake. --- Juanito Pesky

Swan Swan H Jun 29 2013 06:55 AM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

I know my boy Recker hasn't exactly torn it up, but maybe it's time to give him three or four starts in a row and see if he can do something if he plays more than once a week. Hell, he and Wheeler looked good together against the Braves. He is probably starting today, so why not give him today and tomorrow? If nothing else it gives Buck a rest.

smg58 Jun 29 2013 07:14 AM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

Edgy MD wrote: Understandable that the bullpen would be gassed. You can send the starters out a day or two early when the travel schedule is brutal. You don't get that luxury with the bullpen. In retrospect, maybe sending out for a fresh arm or two might have been warranted. David Aardsma hadn't pitched in six days, and had come into the game with a 1.12 ERA and currently has a .462 OPS against lefthanded batters. Yeah it's a small sample size, but in what universe is Josh Edgin the better option to finish the inning? If Aardsma could get Chad Tracy to pop out, why was pitching to Denard Span unacceptable?

Benjamin Grimm Jun 29 2013 07:40 AM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

I agree that more Recker and less Buck is the easiest solution, and one well worth trying.

metirish Jun 29 2013 09:01 AM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

We have friends and family staying with us from Puerto Rico, I surprised Hommy and his daughter with tix for this game. Hommy is a huge baseball fan(Cards) and regularly goes to games in PR. Anyway he was stoked to be going to his first MLB park and to see Harvey . I got us good seats in left field section 337(rain didn't bother us), 50% off because i voted for the ASG,we had a blast, as it rained our section filled up, two people from Ireland happened to sit next to us and in front 6 lads from Argentina , everyone was in to it, great craic was being had........and then .....fucking wow.... you could feel the life and good vibes being sucked out of the place , and then anger, we left our seats after they tied so I could show them the stadium and get some ribs...I don't think I have ever felt a numbness and seething anger as last night, just walking around by Shea bridge you could feel it. A real sense of disgust too. We had a great night but that should have been a win.

Edgy MD Jun 29 2013 09:54 AM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

smg58 wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Understandable that the bullpen would be gassed. You can send the starters out a day or two early when the travel schedule is brutal. You don't get that luxury with the bullpen. In retrospect, maybe sending out for a fresh arm or two might have been warranted. David Aardsma hadn't pitched in six days, and had come into the game with a 1.12 ERA and currently has a .462 OPS against lefthanded batters. Yeah it's a small sample size, but in what universe is Josh Edgin the better option to finish the inning? If Aardsma could get Chad Tracy to pop out, why was pitching to Denard Span unacceptable? I guess in the universe where getting same-side matchups trumps going with the guy who was already in the game, was pitching effectively, and had generally been the better pitcher for you. "Yeah," Terry might say, "he got Tracy, also a lefty, but Tracy has been hitting terribly all year. Span's been merely eh. " And you might come around with, "Well, if the matchup against Span is so golfarned important, why not switch one batter earlier and double down on the matchup happiness?" And Terry'll just come back with how much he liked Aardsma's sinker, and was hoping to get two outs out of Tracy on a GiDP. "Sides," Collins will add, "Johnson was sending up Tracy really to psyche me into taking Aardsma out of the game, and then once Terry went with the lefty, Johnson would call Tracy back, pat him on the ass, and then send up Lombardozzi, or Mary Tyler Moore, or Copernicus, and really own that matchup." "Kobernus," you'll correct him. "Kobernus," Terry will agree. "I wasn't going to play Davy's little game." And then you'll say, "GOOD FOR YOU, COWBOY! You didn't blink! So WHY did you blink when the next batter came up?!" "Because SPAN'S THE BETTER HITTER!" Terry will scream. "What the hell is wrong with you?!" "He's not that good!" you'll come back with. "And there's no reason to raise your voice." "And you're not raising your voice?!" Terry will come back with. "Is that your act? Provoke me and then act all victimized when I come back at you?" You sum it up then. "Span sucks. You made him plausably unsucky by going with a suckier pitcher." "We're just giong in circles," Terry will lament, throwing up his hands. "Besides, I leave Aardsma in there against the lefty, and that lefty, Span, does what lefties do, and turns Aardsma around with a drive into the corner, while my lefthanded specialist is cooling his heels in the pen, you'd still be killing me this morning." You'll shake your head. "I would not. It would've been the right move." "WELL ONE OF YOU OTHER COCKSUCKERS WOULD!! You never let up." At this point you'll know you have the advantage, and you'll calmly raise one eyebrow, Spock-like. "'Cocksuckers,' Terry? Have I stumbled into famed holdout bastion of homophobia that is the big league clubhouse?" "Grfufflebub..." he'll mumble. "Don't like it, you can leave." "Excuse me?" you'll confidently ask. "I didn't GET that last statemnt." "GET... OUT..." Terry will say. He'll puff himself up like the bantam rooster that he is. But his heart isn't in it. "LOOK," you'll say, all filled with it-gets-better righteousness and the confidence that Dan Savage has your back, "I didn't back down from Frank Howard, and I'm not about to back down from you." And just as Terry's about to come up with a pathetic "Oh, YEAH...?!" Anthony Recker interrupts and offers you a signed picture. "Um... YEAH!" you'll respond with sudden glee. "Me, too!" Terry will say, waiving his hand frantically. "ME TOO!"

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 29 2013 12:27 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

metirish wrote: We have friends and family staying with us from Puerto Rico, I surprised Hommy and his daughter with tix for this game. Hommy is a huge baseball fan(Cards) and regularly goes to games in PR. Anyway he was stoked to be going to his first MLB park and to see Harvey . I got us good seats in left field section 337(rain didn't bother us), 50% off because i voted for the ASG,we had a blast, as it rained our section filled up, two people from Ireland happened to sit next to us and in front 6 lads from Argentina , everyone was in to it, great craic was being had........and then .....fucking wow.... you could feel the life and good vibes being sucked out of the place , and then anger, we left our seats after they tied so I could show them the stadium and get some ribs...I don't think I have ever felt a numbness and seething anger as last night, just walking around by Shea bridge you could feel it. A real sense of disgust too. We had a great night but that should have been a win. That was a perfect description of my mood when I left the park too. Everything that is wrong with how teams use their bullpens was on display. We all saw it coming. I felt terrible for the lost opportunity, we just flushed away all the momentum from that great road trip. Why? So Edgin could get out Denard Fucking Span.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 29 2013 12:36 PM Re: IGT 6/28/2013: WSH @ NYM -- A New Lease on Life at Citi

It doesn't get better, Edge.