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Rob Neyer goes all Howie Megdal on the Mets

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 25 2013 09:15 AM

The Mets' big head -- their OTHER big head -- speaks
By Rob Neyer on Jun 25 2013, 10:07a ? @robneyer 1



A wiser fellow than I once told me, "A fish stinks from the head."

Those words always come back to me when a baseball franchise just seems lost, for year after year after year. Maybe it's not the manager, or even the general manager; maybe it's the general manager's boss. Which usually means the owner. Sure, it's fun to enumerate the many mistakes of Ned Yost and Dayton Moore ... but what about the managers and the general manager before them? Hasn't the common thread for many years actually been David Glass, who's controlled the franchise since 1993? When the history of the Kansas City Royals is someday written, doesn't most of the blame for this interminable postseason drought -- the longest in major professional sports, I believe -- go to the man who's made all the big decisions for 20 years? Was placing all three of his children on the Royals' board of directors really the best possible thing for the franchise?

I'm sorry. This wasn't supposed to be about the Royals. It's just that they're such a good example of so many things. Terrible things, yes. But still quite instructive, in their own special way. I got to thinking about owners and stinky fish the other day when I saw this interview with Mets owner Fred Wilpon. Like Glass, Wilpon handed a fair amount of power to his son. I don't know if that's a good thing or not, in the Mets' case. Generally speaking, I suspect that nepotism isn't the best way to run a business. I'm sure it can work sometimes.

Wilpon certainly can't match Glass's brilliant record, either of failure on the field or nepotism. But the Mets are heading for their fifth straight fourth-place finish, and they've reached the postseason once in the last dozen seasons. That's not real hot for a team with the Mets' natural advantages (or unnatural, depending on your opinion of Major League Baseball's antitrust exemption). And because it's the Mets and they're not going to win again this season, the longtime owner's words seem to come with a certain ... hollowness:



"I get it, I suffer with it. I think that we have to see that plan become successful because in today's world, it's not how much money you spend -- although we have invested a lot of money. Some of it has been wasted because right now we have a [$102.2 million] payroll and 50 percent of the payroll is not playing."

Wilpon, 76, was largely referring to the injuries of former ace Johan Santana, who is owed $31 million, closer Frank Francisco ($6.5 million) and reliever Scott Atchison ($700,000). Atchison is close to returning. The Mets paid a lump sum and deferred some of the $21 million due outfielder Jason Bay when he agreed to have his contract terminated last November.

"That's a shame," Wilpon said. "It might be very different if they were [available]. But that's part of life, you have to go on and see how you can address that, and I think as an organization, we're addressing those needs.


Well, Wilpon's missing half the equation here. If Johan Santana and Frank Francisco and Scott Atchison and (heaven forbid!) Jason Bay were actually available, the Mets might be in third place rather than fourth. At 30-42, it's hard to argue that they'd have a winning record if those guys were gracing the 25-man roster.

The real roster/payroll story is actually much simpler: The Mets don't have Santana starting every fifth game or the money they're paying Santana, which could otherwise be used to pay other, actual players (assuming Wilpon didn't just use the savings to pay his many creditors).

With or without Santana or his $31 million, the Mets are a mess.

They have one great pitcher (Matt Harvey) and one great hitter (David Wright). The Mets' only other good hitters are 27-year-old, fielding-challenged Lucas Duda and 35-year-old Marlon Byrd.

Even including Zack Wheeler, the Mets' farm system was ranked as the 26th best in the majors last winter by Baseball America. Their first-round pick in last June's draft hasn't done anything in the minors yet, and their first-round pick in the previous draft is still two or three years away from the majors. There's just not a lot happening here. Wilpon can't afford to spend like a New York team should spend, and the farm system's not stocked with hot prospects.

Wilpon finishes with this:



"This franchise is a very big part of our family," Wilpon said. "We are as passionate as any fan out there to want to do well. We can't always pick the players, obviously. Sometimes we've done very well, people who have represented us have done very well. Sometimes they haven't.

"I've been around a very long time. I do get it. I try these days to have two faces of the organization and they're not mine or [son] Jeff's. They're really good representatives -- Sandy and Terry [Collins] are really good people."


Getting it is a good thing. Picking a lot more good players is a far better thing. For some years now, too many Mets players have ... well, they've sorta stunk. Statistically speaking. But I blame the big fish more than the little ones.


http://www.baseballnation.com/2013/6/25 ... -interview

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 25 2013 09:26 AM
Re: Rob Neyer goes all Howie Megdal on the Mets

Rob Neyer wrote:


They have one great pitcher (Matt Harvey) and one great hitter (David Wright). The Mets' only other good hitters are 27-year-old, fielding-challenged Lucas Duda and 35-year-old Marlon Byrd.



Agree with the big picture ... the premise. (No surprise) But Neyer left out Murphy, a good hitter, better even than Byrd.

Vic Sage
Jun 25 2013 09:27 AM
Re: Rob Neyer goes all Howie Megdal on the Mets

i have no criticism of Mr. Neyer's article, except that the phrase isn't "a fish stinks from the head", its "a fish rots from the head down".
I'm sure that, ultimately, a fish stinks from everywhere.

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/fish ... -down.html

Centerfield
Jun 25 2013 09:50 AM
Re: Rob Neyer goes all Howie Megdal on the Mets

The problem is, other than that fish line, there's very little in that article.

The Mets stink. The Wilpons are to blame. They are, and continue to be, the problem.

That's about it.

Ceetar
Jun 25 2013 09:59 AM
Re: Rob Neyer goes all Howie Megdal on the Mets

It doesn't matter how good the chef is, if all the fish he buys go rotten.

Maybe it's the refrigerator's fault.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 25 2013 10:12 AM
Re: Rob Neyer goes all Howie Megdal on the Mets

batmagadanleadoff wrote:


They have one great pitcher (Matt Harvey) and one great hitter (David Wright). The Mets' only other good hitters are 27-year-old, fielding-challenged Lucas Duda and 35-year-old Marlon Byrd.



Agree with the big picture ... the premise. (No surprise) But Neyer left out Murphy, a good hitter, better even than Byrd.



Well, this year?

Murphy's wOBA/OPS+: .310/101

Byrd's wOBA/OPS+: .344/126

Byrd's getting on-base more and slugging MUCH more.

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 25 2013 10:24 AM
Re: Rob Neyer goes all Howie Megdal on the Mets

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:


They have one great pitcher (Matt Harvey) and one great hitter (David Wright). The Mets' only other good hitters are 27-year-old, fielding-challenged Lucas Duda and 35-year-old Marlon Byrd.



Agree with the big picture ... the premise. (No surprise) But Neyer left out Murphy, a good hitter, better even than Byrd.



Well, this year?

Murphy's wOBA/OPS+: .310/101

Byrd's wOBA/OPS+: .344/126

Byrd's getting on-base more and slugging MUCH more.


That's how much I'm following this year's Mets. Still, I'd bet Murph over Byrd by season's end.

Ashie62
Jun 25 2013 10:27 AM
Re: Rob Neyer goes all Howie Megdal on the Mets

That was a good read and I tend to agree with just about all of it....

Ceetar
Jun 25 2013 12:44 PM
Re: Rob Neyer goes all Howie Megdal on the Mets

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:


They have one great pitcher (Matt Harvey) and one great hitter (David Wright). The Mets' only other good hitters are 27-year-old, fielding-challenged Lucas Duda and 35-year-old Marlon Byrd.



Agree with the big picture ... the premise. (No surprise) But Neyer left out Murphy, a good hitter, better even than Byrd.



Well, this year?

Murphy's wOBA/OPS+: .310/101

Byrd's wOBA/OPS+: .344/126

Byrd's getting on-base more and slugging MUCH more.


Sure, but go back two weeks and that's not the case. Getting Byrd at the peak of a hot streak and Murphy at the valley of a slump.

And probably go forward two weeks and the same thing.

smg58
Jun 25 2013 12:53 PM
Re: Rob Neyer goes all Howie Megdal on the Mets

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
batmagadanleadoff wrote:


They have one great pitcher (Matt Harvey) and one great hitter (David Wright). The Mets' only other good hitters are 27-year-old, fielding-challenged Lucas Duda and 35-year-old Marlon Byrd.



Agree with the big picture ... the premise. (No surprise) But Neyer left out Murphy, a good hitter, better even than Byrd.



Well, this year?

Murphy's wOBA/OPS+: .310/101

Byrd's wOBA/OPS+: .344/126

Byrd's getting on-base more and slugging MUCH more.


That's how much I'm following this year's Mets. Still, I'd bet Murph over Byrd by season's end.


Byrd just needs to keep this up long enough for the Mets to get somebody with a bit of long-term value for him next month. As for Murph, I expect he'll wind up with an AVG between .290 and .300 and a .750 or so OPS.

Edgy MD
Jun 25 2013 12:54 PM
Re: Rob Neyer goes all Howie Megdal on the Mets

That's actually scarcely more fair than Megdal.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 25 2013 01:45 PM
Re: Rob Neyer goes all Howie Megdal on the Mets

What it has in common with Megdal is the repackaging of someone else's work so as to apply an interpretation and context to the quotes that may not have been there.

Far be it from me to defend Fred Wilpon and it's hard to disagree with the larger blatently obvious point Neyer seems to be making, but geez. Neyer takes him to task for the innocuous Magic Quote "It might be very different" with a "might" of his own, making the supposition that Fred literally meant "second place or first place" when in truth he has no idea then dismisses it entirely so as to condemn the recent draft classes which have nothing to do with Fred Wilpon, other than to rereference his "big fish" intro.

I mean, this is lazy.

Swan Swan H
Jun 25 2013 01:56 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:


I mean, this is lazy.


Why risk the ocean when there are fish in that barrel right over there.

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 25 2013 02:05 PM
Re: Rob Neyer goes all Howie Megdal on the Mets

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:


Neyer takes [eff Wilpon] to task for the innocuous Magic Quote "It might be very different" with a "might" of his own, making the supposition that Fred literally meant "second place or first place" when in truth he has no idea....

I mean, this is lazy.


What else could've eff meant? That the Mets would be in third place with a healthy Santana? That today, the Mets would be 33-39 instead of 30-42? It's fair game and logical to assume that eff W had to have meant that the Mets would be contending if things were different (i.e., in 1st or 2nd place). Either that or eff W has gone nuttier than ever.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 25 2013 02:22 PM
Re: Rob Neyer goes all Howie Megdal on the Mets

He could have simply meant "less pathetic."

Swan Swan H
Jun 25 2013 02:27 PM
Re: Rob Neyer goes all Howie Megdal on the Mets

batmagadanleadoff wrote:


That's how much I'm following this year's Mets. Still, I'd bet Murph over Byrd by season's end.


It finally makes sense. You don't follow the team, just the writers who write articles slamming them.

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 25 2013 02:28 PM
Re: Rob Neyer goes all Howie Megdal on the Mets

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
He could have simply meant "less pathetic."


If true, that would be pathetic.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 25 2013 02:51 PM
Re: Rob Neyer goes all Howie Megdal on the Mets

Well my point was Fred said something vague about "might" and Neyer responded with something specific but also "might."

I'm not explaining this well.

If Johan Santana and Frank Francisco and Scott Atchison and (heaven forbid!) Jason Bay were actually available, the Mets might be in third place rather than fourth.


Way to take a stand, Rob!!