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Edgy MD Jul 11 2013 07:58 AM

I stayed up late last night following the Diamondbacks and Dodgers in extra innings, even though it'd be pretty hard find a game more inconsequential to the Mets. But standings-wise, yesterday was a terrific day. If you've been waiting to throw your heart behind this Mets team, waiting until a win came along that catapulted them out of the muck and into relevance, well yesterday was that win. By knocking off the world champs in a third straight game, the Mets passed three teams in the standings in one magic day. By putting that much of the pack behind them, the team has ensured that, if they can keep winning, there's enough folks behind them to make the competitors behind them catchable. It's a big IF, of course, and that's why your team needs you to get on board NOW!!! Even these three games against the suddenly mighty Pirates have grave import. Tune in, cheer, take a trip to Pittsburgh if you must, give your all to your Mets. Division Team W L PCT GB NGB Atlanta 52 39 .571 — — Washington 47 44 .516 5.0 5.0 Philadelphia 45 47 .489 7.5 10.0 YOUR New York Mets 40 48 .455 10.5 19.0 Miami 33 57 .367 18.5 51.0 Card of Wildness Team W L PCT GB NGB Pittsburgh 54 36 .600 -3.5 -3.5 Cincinnati 51 40 .560 — — Washington 47 44 .516 4.0 4.0 Los Angeles 45 45 .500 5.5 7.0 Philadelphia 45 47 .489 6.5 10.0 Colorado 44 48 .478 7.5 14.0 YOUR New York Mets 40 48 .455 9.5 24.0 Chicago 40 49 .449 10.0 27.0 San Diego 41 51 .446 10.5 30.5 San Francisco 40 50 .444 10.5 30.5 Milwaukee 37 53 .411 13.5 57.5 Miami 33 57 .367 17.5 97.5 The following pairings represent the NL matchups in the National League before the break, with who you might want to root for underlined. [list]=#408000]Today Nationals @ Phillies You can't go wrong by rooting against either of these teams, but as the Phils are behind the Nats in the standings, and the Nats seem most capable of finding a new wind, root for the Phils. Or don't. But... =#408000]Tomorry Cardinals @ Cubs Can't go wrong here either, but if they're gonna win the division they might as well fatten up by knocking off the team just behind the Mets in the standings. Or the Cubs, utterly incapable of getting out of the Mets draft, knock down a giant we'll have to face later. That's good too. White Sox @ Phillies Robin Ventura, in our time of need, we turn to you. And you too, Super Joe. Nationals @ Marlins Let's go, second-half Fishies. Beat up on the top of the division like you beat up on the Mets (and no one else) in the first half. Reds @ Braves Don't fail me now, Joey Votto. The Braves are pretenders and everbody knows it but them. Send a strong message for them to take into the break. Brewers @ D-backs The Mets are four up on the Brewers. Do you care how they do against the Western Division leaders? I'm not sure I do, and yet, I watached that Arizona-Dodgers game late into last night. Of little consequence, but let's root for the Snakes to get a little tenderized here. Rockies @ Dodgers Two teams ahead of the Mets. I'm going to go with Los Angeles here. The cash-rich Dodgers need their spirits broken. But with Colorado delectably sitting one spot ahead of the Mets, achieiving the unlikely feat of catching them them by the break would be some sweet cherry pie. Put them behind us and the Dodgers will follow. We all know Mattingly is like a magnet polarized to defect away any post-season glory. Giants @ Padres Two of the teams the Mets passed yesterday matching up here. I'm rooting for the Pads. With a recent 10-game losing streak and the resignation of the their president, I'm guessing they're done, while the champs may still have enough pride to make one more surge.[/list:u] Enjoy the weekend.

Lefty Specialist Jul 11 2013 08:32 AM Re: Standings

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU

Vic Sage Jul 11 2013 01:16 PM Re: Standings

your obstinate optimism is awe-inspiring and worthy of respect. you shoulder the heavy burden for those of us rooted in the rational. I salute you, dude. carry on.

seawolf17 Jul 11 2013 01:28 PM Re: Standings

YA. GOTTA. BELIEVE. Fully on board, Edge. THIS IS THE YEAR. OUR TEAM, OUR TIME. OR WHATEVER.

Farmer Ted Jul 11 2013 01:43 PM Re: Standings

I haven't fully recovered from the Mets sweeping the MFYs followed by the Miami debacle (which was part of losing 11 of the next 14). Yup, Donnie Downer here and I'm still bitter that Harvey's skipping a start on Saturday.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 11 2013 02:04 PM Re: Standings

I've been optimistic about these guys all year, not because I know they'd do well but because I've hoped they would and haven't encountered any team that looks so much better than ours that it's worth giving up. Maybe Cincinnati but that's it. But to look at this team realistically I think you have to be just as surprised (if not more) that Davis, Tejada and Niese have sucked than Byrd & Hef outperforming wildest wishes. I like that they are seemingly up against it talent-wise but are finding a way, acquiring and discarding guys like Ankeil, slowly becoming a good defensive team, etc. And I am at least a little CAHNfident that there's improvement to be had still, via trade route (Davis/Duda/Muffy) and thru promotions (Montero/D'Arnaud). Who here doesn't expect a better second half than first? I sat through some of the most irrelevant and awful losses this year and still I'm saying this.

Frayed Knot Jul 11 2013 02:27 PM Re: Standings

If nothing else, this is the first season in several where I don't have a sense of dread that the second half is going to be a crash and burn. That doesn't mean that suckitude won't happen only that I'm not expecting it to. Last year as things were sailing along decently (Seven games over .500 thru the end of June) someone posted, right around this point in the season, a prediction poll for the 2nd half. When that post made me stop and think about what was ahead I suddenly froze with the realization that they were going to really, really suck, so much so that I don't think I even entered a prediction because I couldn't bring myself to put down in 'writing' what looked so obvious was going to be the case. And, as we all know now, a 7-18 July was followed by an 12 win August and an 11 win September; essentially a .373 2nd half. Put another way that's winning at the pace of a 60-win season or about 28 games worse than what they were headed for based on their first half. If anything this year I get the opinion that the worst is behind them and, barring some soul-crushing injuries (Wright, Harvey), they should be at least competitive throughout. And while that doesn't mean I think they're the best team going forward, or that they didn't dig themselves too big a hole early on to truly get back in the race, if a bunch of stuff all goes right things could be more interesting than just a sad team playing out the string.

Ceetar Jul 11 2013 02:31 PM Re: Standings

Frayed Knot wrote: If anything this year I get the opinion that the worst is behind them and, barring some soul-crushing injuries (Wright, Harvey), they should be at least competitive throughout. And while that doesn't mean I think they're the best team going forward, or that they didn't dig themselves too big a hole early on to truly get back in the race, if a bunch of stuff all goes right things could be more interesting than just a sad team playing out the string. Seems accurate. I think we're gonna look back at parts of this season and reflect on turning points for decades to come, but I'm not sure they have it in them, of their own volition, to make the playoffs yet. But I wouldn't rule out the Braves collapsing some where it becomes a little more possible. They're still quite a bit under .500 and barring a crazy non-losing streak coming up, they're going to be well out of it still by the trading deadline. The Mets seemingly only have 4 pitchers right now, and Torres, who probably isn't "the answer". I'm nominating Kirk Nieuwenhuis and Ike Davis as guys that, if they play respectable baseball, can have the Mets play at a .550 clip for the season, but I'm not sure there's enough talent across the board to do what needs to be done to get to the playoffs right now.

Edgy MD Jul 11 2013 07:24 PM Re: Standings

Who are these four pitchers? Who are the non-pitchers?

Ceetar Jul 11 2013 07:31 PM Re: Standings

Edgy MD wrote: Who are these four pitchers? Who are the non-pitchers? Niese, Marcum and Torres are the non-pitchers. the other four are the four pitchers.

Edgy MD Jul 11 2013 07:53 PM Re: Standings

So, by "pitchers," you mean "starting pitchers." I wouldn't be so black and white, but if you must, I'd say having four guys you believe in is impressive, especially after losing the top three from most of last year.

Ashie62 Jul 11 2013 08:00 PM Re: Standings

I am hopeful and it feels good..but I would not be shocked if they blow three in Pittsburgh and I deflate and concede..anyhooch Lets Go Mets!

Edgy MD Jul 11 2013 08:31 PM Re: Standings

No sports fan is rooted in the rational. It's helpful to recognize that.

Ashie62 Jul 11 2013 09:07 PM Re: Standings

Fans of anything....

Vic Sage Jul 11 2013 09:17 PM Re: Standings

so your saying, therefore, that I'm not a sports fan. Or maybe not enough of a sports fan? or the right kind of sports fan? Or your kind of sports fan? Yes, i know that "fan" is short for "fanatic", but i don't think fanaticism, or blind optimism, or unquestioning loyalty to a sports logo is really a requirement to be a Mets fan. It's not a religion. At least not to me. Your mileage may vary.

Edgy MD Jul 12 2013 07:11 AM Re: Standings

Vic Sage wrote: so your saying, therefore, that I'm not a sports fan. No I'm not saying that at all. All evidence flies in the face of that nition. Or maybe not enough of a sports fan? or the right kind of sports fan? Or your kind of sports fan? None of the above. Vic Sage wrote: Yes, i know that "fan" is short for "fanatic"... I actually don't believe this etymology, though widely accepted, is correct. Vic Sage wrote: ..., but i don't think fanaticism, or blind optimism, or unquestioning loyalty to a sports logo is really a requirement to be a Mets fan. It's not a religion. At least not to me. Your mileage may vary. We're off the island here. You're constructing an argument I neither made nor implied, and taking offense at it. What I'm trying to do is avoid taking any offense at an argument you seemingly did deliberately imply, that by posting these standings and presenting what they could possibly mean, I somehow am irrational. I in no way seek to impugn your sports fanhood. You watch NBA basketball which bores me stiff, so I think any fair comparison would suggest you are the greater sports fan. What I mean to do is take any distinction of the perspective of the Mets' hopes out of the realm of rational-vs.-irrational., and in so doing somewhat defend myself against the implication that I either have an irrational mind, or have a rational one operating irrationally. The avocation of rooting for a sports team or athlete is neither rational nor irrational, but super-rational.

Ceetar Jul 12 2013 07:26 AM Re: Standings

Edgy MD wrote: The avocation of rooting for a sports team or athlete is neither rational nor irrational, but super-rational. So this thread is kinda just about the dream? The one where Byrd keeps this up the rest of the year and Ike Davis hits like he did the second half of last year (or other extrapolations) and the Mets make their run?

Edgy MD Jul 12 2013 07:38 AM Re: Standings

Days off are almost always a bad idea when you're pursing something with limited time to get it. The Mets lose a half game in the East, but gain a half in the Wild Card. The resilient Cubs gain a full game, however, and pull back into a virtual tie with the Mets. Very interesting this weekend as both the Mets and Cubs face teams at the top of the Central. The plummeting Padres would be a real story, if they weren't the Padres. Interesting that the president resigns, but Bud Black survives. He's got to be one of the longest-serving managers now. Eastern Division Standings, Though Divisions Are Tearing Society Apart Team W L PCT GB NGB Atlanta 53 39 .576 — — Washington 47 45 .511 6.0 6.0 Philadelphia 46 47 .495 7.5 9.0 New York 40 48 .455 11.0 19.5 Miami 33 57 .367 19.0 51.5 Standings in Pursuit of the Card that is OUT of CONTROL Team W L PCT GB NGB Pittsburgh 54 36 .600 -4.0 -4.0 Cincinnati 51 41 .554 — — Washington 47 45 .511 4.0 4.0 Los Angeles 46 45 .505 4.5 5.0 Philadelphia 46 47 .495 5.5 8.0 Colorado 44 49 .473 7.5 16.0 Chicago 41 49 .456 9.0 23.5 New York 40 48 .455 9.0 23.5 San Francisco 41 50 .451 9.5 27.0 San Diego 41 52 .441 10.5 35.0 Milwaukee 37 54 .407 13.5 62.0 Miami 33 57 .367 17.0 97.0

Vic Sage Jul 12 2013 08:59 AM Re: Standings

Vic Sage wrote: so your saying, therefore, that I'm not a sports fan . Edgy wrote: No I'm not saying that at all. All evidence flies in the face of that nition. major premise (mine): I'm rooted in the rational. minor premise (yours): no sports fan is rooted in the rational. Conclusion: I am not a sports fan. This is called a "syllogism", and, as you well know, it has been the fundamental logical structure of deductive reasoning since Aristotle (if not earlier). But then you turn around and say of this syllogism's necessary conclusion: "I'm not saying that at all". Whatever, dude.

Edgy MD Jul 12 2013 09:01 AM Re: Standings

Can you please stop with the condescending bullshit now? Please? I tried very, very hard to explain why that conclusion doesn't hold. It doesn't.

seawolf17 Jul 12 2013 09:04 AM Re: Standings

Can we please have one fucking thread that doesn't fucking degenerate into sniping? Fuckin' hell.

Edgy MD Jul 12 2013 09:07 AM Re: Standings

Yes.

Ceetar Jul 12 2013 09:08 AM Re: Standings

seawolf17 wrote: Can we please have one fucking thread that doesn't fucking degenerate into sniping? Fuckin' hell. wifey watch. also, thread about beer.

seawolf17 Jul 12 2013 09:16 AM Re: Standings

Oh, so you're saying because I like Blue Moon I'm not a "real" beer drinker? EFF YOU.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 12 2013 09:29 AM Re: Standings

I would like to point out that eff, as in "eff Wilpon", is a proper noun, and not a verb. I'm eff. And I'm Jeff

Nymr83 Jul 12 2013 09:34 AM Re: Standings

seawolf17 wrote: Oh, so you're saying because I like Blue Moon I'm not a "real" beer drinker? EFF YOU. Its Questionable.

Swan Swan H Jul 12 2013 09:38 AM Re: Standings

Ceetar wrote: seawolf17 wrote: Can we please have one fucking thread that doesn't fucking degenerate into sniping? Fuckin' hell. wifey watch. also, thread about beer. Wifey Watch degenerates into a bunch of degenerates.

Lefty Specialist Jul 12 2013 01:08 PM Re: Standings

Every time it looks like the Mets are getting up a good head of steam (like sweeping the Yankmes), something comes along to screw it up. It would not surprise me if this weekend that something was the Buccos.

Frayed Knot Jul 12 2013 06:02 PM Re: Standings

Lots of 1st inning scoring in the NL East tonight. - Nationals gave Strasburg a 3-0 lead in the top half of the 1st, but then Strasburg quickly gave FIVE back in the bottom. - Cincy got three off the Braves and Kris Medlen in the opening frame - Philly, hosting the ChiSox, have been rained out. I assume they'll have to double-up some time this weekend since it's an IL/one-visit opponent.

Frayed Knot Jul 13 2013 02:16 PM Re: Standings

Tough week to be a Braves outfielder Jason Heyward strains a hamstring on Thursday night, he won't play again until after the ASB - BOTH Upton brothers had to leave the game on Friday night with leg problems. Like Heyward, neither will be DL'd as of yet but both will sit the rest of the weekend series vs Cincy - Jordan Schaefer already was on the DL with a foot injury and will probably miss another month at least. Today's starting OF for the Braves: LF - Jose Constanza; CF - Reed Johnson; RF - Joey Terdoslavich

Edgy MD Jul 13 2013 02:48 PM Re: Standings

Man, I'd say it's a good time to take on the Braves, but they may actually improve. Little remembered, but in the same game that Beltran and Kablammeron collided, Cliff Floyd got hurt too when he dove and got some system-shock. Rather than put an infielder in for him, Willie Randolph stalled the game while Cliff collected his marbles, but he was clearly dragging his ass through the rest of the game. The season seemingly ended that day, though the next day featured Victor Diaz substituting in right and homering twice.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 13 2013 08:58 PM Re: Standings

On the plus side, with the momentum loss, Wright/Harvey taking their bows on Tuesday, and a BabyMets-loaded Sunday game, maybe it's the right time to get behind your FutureMets (including those we'll be drafting a little bit higher next year).

Frayed Knot Jul 13 2013 09:09 PM Re: Standings

- Braves win tonight as their make-shift outfield combined for seven hits. - Meanwhile, the Marlins have crept up by two games over the last two days. After jumping on Strasburg for 7 runs in 2 innings on Friday, Jose Fernandez held the Nats to one run tonight which became enough when Giancarlo HR'd to tie it in the bottom of the 9th. Miami then won it in the 10th when, rather than get the force out at home, the Nats tried but failed for the one-out/Bases-loaded GiDP. - Phils lost their first game with the ChiSox (make-up from yesterday's rain out) and are headed for the 10th in game 2.

Edgy MD Jul 16 2013 08:25 AM Re: Standings

Standings news: Philadelphia slips within a half a game of Washington, even as Met announcers interpret every Washington win as the beginning of a run they just know the Nats have in them, and every loss as perhaps the last bump in the road before said run comes. Embarrassing, guys. They're just a team. Mets sit 11 off the division lead after the Harveyless squad lost their first series in weeks, despite playing the triumphant Pirates largely even, being in every game to the end. Pittsburgh's series win puts them back over .500. If they're going to come crashing back down to earth, it ain't the Mets that are going to do it. They looked good, and they're pitching looks as deep as the Braves. In the Wild Card race, the last series put the Giants back a half game up on the Mets an dCubbies. The Dodgers pulled in front of the Rockies in the West to get even at the break, saving Mattingly's head so that he might fight another day. San Diego continues to sink. First 14 games following the break for the Mets are intradivisional matchups. Team W L PCT GB NGB Atlanta 54 41 .568 — — Washington 48 47 .505 6.0 6.0 Philadelphia 48 48 .500 6.5 7.0 New York 41 50 .451 11.0 20.5 Miami 35 58 .376 18.0 48.5 Team W L PCT GB NGB Pittsburgh 56 37 .602 -4.0 -4.0 Cincinnati 53 42 .558 — — Washington 48 47 .505 5.0 5.0 Philadelphia 48 48 .500 5.5 6.0 Los Angeles 47 47 .500 5.5 6.0 Colorado 46 50 .479 7.5 14.0 San Francisco 43 51 .457 9.5 24.0 Chicago 42 51 .452 10.0 27.0 New York 41 50 .451 10.0 27.0 San Diego 42 54 .438 11.5 39.0 Milwaukee 38 56 .404 14.5 66.0 Miami 35 58 .376 17.0 91.0

Frayed Knot Jul 16 2013 08:28 AM Re: Standings

Of Atlanta's broken outfield, as of yet they've only DL'd one of the Uptons (BJ) but not the other or Heyward. And speaking of injured NL East OFers, Philly CF Ben Revere broke his foot and is shelved for at least six weeks. Looks like Mayberry in CF with Young & Brown in the corners for the time being.

Edgy MD Jul 21 2013 05:54 PM Re: Standings

Philadelphia loses two of three and manages to pass Washington. LA, in beating the Nats, passes them both. The Mets gain a mere game in the divisional standings, but knock four games off their net games back, and two net games in the Wild Card, pulling ahead of Chicago and staying within a half game of the champeen Giants. Team W L PCT GB NGB Atlanta 55 43 .561 — — Philadelphia 49 50 .495 6.5 6.5 Washington 48 50 .490 7.0 7.5 YOUR New York Mets 43 51 .457 10.0 16.5 Miami 35 61 .365 19.0 52.5 Team W L PCT GB NGB Pittsburgh 57 39 .594 -3.0 -3.0 Cincinnati 55 43 .561 — — Los Angeles 50 47 .515 4.5 4.5 Philadelphia 49 50 .495 6.5 8.5 Washington 48 50 .490 7.0 10.0 Colorado 48 51 .485 7.5 12.0 San Francisco 45 52 .464 9.5 22.0 YOUR New York Mets 43 51 .457 10.0 25.0 Chicago 43 53 .448 11.0 32.0 San Diego 43 56 .434 12.5 44.0 Milwaukee 41 56 .423 13.5 53.0 Miami 35 61 .365 19.0 108.0

batmagadanleadoff Jul 21 2013 06:44 PM Re: Standings

My New York Mets?? These ain't my New York Mets. Me and my best buddy, eff Wilpon (Fred, to you) would've wanted Jose Reyes at short. We would've paid Jose whatever he wanted and he knows it. Whatever. And an upgrade in the outfield, preferably someone not yet eligible for Social Security, who might plausibly make the All Star team. But that cocksucker Sandy Alderson is running things like we're under war-time rationing restrictions here, acting like the only free agents are either missing an arm or a leg. There's only so many Spam sandwiches we can feed Matt Harvey at the post-game buffet before he bolts for the Bronx. We tried to roll the Spam into little balls and glaze them with Orange Jello, hoping the players would think it's caviar, but the stupid hicks don't even know what caviar is. Plus, they know their spam, so we can't fool them either way. I think they were raised on Spam. Breast-fed Spam. I pay them millions of dollars a year and they still think that the height of dining are the french fries over at the Shake Shack. That cocksucker Sandy, I tell you, he practically put a gun to eff's head. And I can't get rid of him.

Edgy MD Jul 21 2013 07:50 PM Re: Standings

Sleep well.

Nymr83 Jul 21 2013 07:57 PM Re: Standings

1st Place could be only 2 weeks away!

Ashie62 Jul 21 2013 09:07 PM Re: Standings

God can take me if the Mets win....

Vic Sage Jul 22 2013 08:06 AM Re: Standings

Ashie- That's a deal. -God

Swan Swan H Jul 23 2013 08:17 PM Re: Standings

When Terry Collins looks in the rear-view mirror, what does he see? The immense cranium of Bruce Bochy, blocking his view of the Cubs, Padres, Brewers and Marlins all piled up in the back of the bus. Next stop, Colorado.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 24 2013 08:56 PM Re: Standings

Missed opportunity or not a terribly costly loss but Washington and (looks like) Philly also going down to defeat today. This of course makes tomorrow's Matinee with [crossout:2dtm76an]Mejia[/crossout:2dtm76an] Wheely a Big Game. Really, all our games are big at this point.

Edgy MD Jul 25 2013 11:34 PM Re: Standings

Splits seem like a wash, and when one more win would have put the team two games closer to first, it feels like a lost opportunity, but in the standings, the Mets still continue to progress, and they head to Washington this weekend amazingly playing for second place, having pulled within two games of both the plummeting Phils and those same Nats that they will be facing. The champion Giants have been caught and passed, and so they're a team you might want to think about rooting for. They sit a game a half behind the Roxx in the Wild Card, but most important are those two games in the division standings. The Dodgers have really turned their ship around, taking over first and knocking Arizona into the Wild Card race, where they remain even after losing to the Reds tonight. I don't want to be the guy to say so, but... Big. Day. Tomorrow. They're more or less playing not only to claw back into the race, but for the survival of Byrd and Murphy and anybody else rumored to be on the block. Because a lost opportunity in Washington probably pushes the front office toward sell mode. Team W L PCT GB NGB Atlanta 57 45 .559 — — Philadelphia 49 53 .480 8.0 8.0 Washington 49 53 .480 8.0 8.0 YOUR New York Mets 45 53 .459 10.0 14.0 Miami 38 62 .380 18.0 46.0 Team W L PCT GB NGB Pittsburgh 60 40 .600 -2.5 -2.5 Cincinnati 59 44 .573 — — Arizona 53 49 .520 5.5 5.5 Philadelphia 49 53 .480 9.5 13.5 Washington 49 53 .480 9.5 13.5 Colorado 49 54 .476 10.0 15.5 YOUR New York Mets 45 53 .459 11.5 23.0 San Francisco 46 55 .455 12.0 26.0 Chicago 45 55 .450 12.5 29.5 San Diego 46 57 .447 13.0 33.5 Milwaukee 42 59 .416 16.0 60.5 Miami 38 62 .380 19.5 95.5

Frayed Knot Jul 26 2013 06:10 AM Re: Standings

It's possible to be in 2nd place NLEast by tomorrow.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 26 2013 06:02 PM Re: Standings

As of right now, the Mets are the second likeliest team in the NL East to qualify for the playoffs, according to ESPN's playoff odds, and at least almost twice as likely to qualify as every other division rival but the Braves. [youtube]CJ8MvnEVCqM[/youtube]

Edgy MD Aug 09 2013 07:51 AM Re: Standings

Remember that series where we had the Braves on the ropes, and walked away with a split when we were poised to sweep, or at least take three of four? Well, thank you, Mets, because the Braves have used that series to springboard forward from, and haven't lost since, having obliterated opposition, mostly divisional, to run off 12 in a row and open up a 15 and a half game lead. Mets have done at least a little more than treading water in that time, passing both Philadelphia and Colorado, moving into third place in the division, and within a game of the second-place Nationals. Also a little resurgent have been the Pads, recovering from a disastrous July to inch a little toward respectability. Even toastier over the weeks have been Don Mattingly's Dodgers. While Atlanta has won their last 10, 16 or their last 20, and 21 of their last 30, the Los Angelinos have gone 8-2 / 17-3 / 24-6 over the same period. Anyhow, root for the Mets this weekend, and maybe find a little heart to root for the Phillies over the Nats too, and maybe you wake up some day over the next three in second place. Team W L PCT GB NGB Atlanta 70 45 .609 — — Washington 54 60 .474 15.5 15.5 YOUR New York Mets 52 60 .464 16.5 17.5 Philadelphia 52 62 .456 17.5 20.5 Miami 43 70 .381 26.0 54.5 Team W L PCT GB NGB St. Louis 66 48 .579 -3.0 -3.0 Cincinnati 63 51 .553 — — Arizona 58 55 .513 4.5 4.5 Washington 54 60 .474 9.0 13.5 YOUR New York Mets 52 60 .464 10.0 16.5 Philadelphia 52 62 .456 11.0 20.5 San Diego 52 62 .456 11.0 20.5 Colorado 52 64 .448 12.0 26.5 San Francisco 51 63 .447 12.0 26.5 Chicago 50 64 .439 13.0 34.5 Milwaukee 49 66 .426 14.5 48.0 Miami 43 70 .381 19.5 98.0

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 09 2013 08:19 AM Re: Standings

I gave up on my crazy dreams for a playoff run when they went into Washington and played like shit 2 weekends ago but. Look, I'm not saying they will do this, but if... if they somehow have an unbelievable road trip here*, I will get Wild Card hopes high enough again to be let down by the Braves and Tigers when we get home. * - Starting pitching continues to shine, under-scouted Flores goes on a tear, Ike continues improvement, etc etc

Edgy MD Aug 09 2013 08:52 AM Re: Standings

It's three teams vying for two playoff spots. They catch and pass Washington, and then they become the best of the irrelevant teams. It's a long road back to relevancy, but that's something, and I'll celebrate every step they take down that road, though late it may be. They've climbed through Rocky territory, now they need to muddle through Washingtonian bureaucracy. Still hard to muster true confidence on Hef Day, though. I can do it!

Frayed Knot Aug 09 2013 09:33 AM Re: Standings

And while catching Washington may not come with any specific reward, as Ronnie said in yesterday's broadcast (or maybe it was the day before) things like 3rd place instead of 4th does mean something to the players and it should to the fans as well. I look at it this way: in all the pre-season polls and predictions, what do you suppose the average gap between the Nats finish and Mets finish was? 15 games? 20? 25? 30? I'd like to finish ahead of Washington just on that basis alone.

Mets – Willets Point Aug 09 2013 11:47 AM Re: Standings

A second-place finish, even if the Mets are 21 games back, will be enough for the LCAO to justify standing pat ... oh, wait, I was channeling someone else for a moment there.

metsguyinmichigan Aug 09 2013 12:27 PM Re: Standings

If the Mets finish in second and the MYF's finish in third in their division, that helps get me through the winter.

G-Fafif Aug 09 2013 12:36 PM Re: Standings

Last time the Mets finished higher in NL East than MFYs finished in AL East was 2008. Last time the Mets finished with a better record than the MFYs was 2000 (big help). Last time the Mets finished higher in their division than MFYs did in their and had a better record? 1990.

G-Fafif Aug 09 2013 12:47 PM Re: Standings

1990. 1989. 1988. 1987. 1986. 1984. 1973. 1972. 1971. 1969. Ten seasons out of 51 (or 52, depending on how you take split-season 1981) in which the Mets finished with both a higher standing and a better record than the MFYs. This could be the eleventh.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 09 2013 12:52 PM Re: Standings

Could my ass. WILL

G-Fafif Aug 09 2013 12:57 PM Re: Standings

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Could my ass. WILL Could your ass will what? OH, I get it...

Edgy MD Aug 11 2013 07:53 PM Re: Standings

Mets taking two of three on the road from a motivated team ahead of them in the standings is no small potatoes, and they somehow managed to keep pace with the front-running Braves, who lost their first game since the Mets played 'em two weeks ago. The Mets, however, lose a game on the second-place Nats, as the Phils are just rolling over and dying. In getting their sorry asses swept this weekend, the Phils get passed by Colorady and San Diegy, and caught by the Cubs. Don't stand beneath them. Brewers, as they're likely to land on you hard. It'd be nice to be playing those very same Phils, but as mentioned in another thread, we've got to through fire to get there, facing the red-hot Dodgers (winners of nine of their last 10) on the road, followed by the Pads (11 of 20) in the Animal House, a one-game swing through Minnesota (seven of 10), two against the Braves (nine of 10, 16 of 20) at home, and a day off before hosting the Tigers (eight of 10), before finally hosting the Phils who --- who knows? --- might be hot by then. It's a tough life, this baseball. Team W L PCT GB NGB Atlanta 72 46 .610 — — Washington 57 60 .487 14.5 14.5 YOUR New York Mets 54 61 .470 16.5 18.5 Philadelphia 52 65 .444 19.5 27.5 Miami 44 72 .379 27.0 57.5 Team W L PCT GB NGB St. Louis 67 50 .573 -2.0 -2.0 Cincinnati 65 52 .556 — — Arizona 59 57 .509 5.5 5.5 Washington 57 60 .487 8.0 10.5 YOUR New York Mets 54 61 .470 10.0 16.5 Colorado 55 64 .462 11.0 20.5 San Diego 53 64 .453 12.0 25.5 Chicago 52 65 .444 13.0 31.5 Philadelphia 52 65 .444 13.0 31.5 San Francisco 52 65 .444 13.0 31.5 Milwaukee 51 67 .432 14.5 45.0 Miami 44 72 .379 20.5 105.0

metirish Aug 12 2013 06:36 AM Re: Standings

I think I am warming up to the idea that there is in fact merit to a strong second half. Seeing these young players coming up is filling me with Mets pride.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 12 2013 07:14 AM Re: Standings

Fuck yeah, and this Dodgers team can be stopped. I'm tellin ya, MGiS for the SHaMs.