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Doo Doo Doo Doo Dah (Heartbreaker)

batmagadanleadoff
Jul 26 2013 05:44 PM
Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Aug 12 2013 11:14 AM

Lucas Duda goes 0-4 with three K's in his GCL return.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/p ... full-games

MFS62
Jul 30 2013 09:58 PM
Re: Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Daah)

He's now 1 for 17.
Later

batmagadanleadoff
Jul 31 2013 09:53 AM
Re: Doo Doo Doo Doo Dah (Heartbreaker)

MFS62 wrote:
He's now 1 for 17.
Later



Good. So now I can change the thread title to Doo Doo Doo Doo Dah (Heartbreaker)

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 12 2013 10:51 AM
Re: Doo Doo Doo Doo Dah (Heartbreaker)

I'm gonna miss the ol' lug when he's smashing 30 HR's as the Rays' DH.

Poor Lucas Duda
09 August 2013, 11:16 am by Howard Megdal

You really have to wonder what Lucas Duda’s career would have been like in another organization.

Duda is 27 years old. There’s ample evidence he can hit major league pitching quite well. His career OPS+ is 114, in 1167 plate appearances. In 2013, he’s at 123, in 269 plate appearances.

To put that in perspective, among first basemen qualified for the batting title, his 123 OPS+ would rank tenth of 22. Add DHs to the mix, and he’d be 13th of 27.

So to summarize, Duda is in his prime years, with all evidence pointing to the fact that he’s about league average, as a hitter, at a pair of positions that value hitting above all else.

So the Mets should be a great place for Duda! Team is 14th in the National League in OPS, 14th in slugging percentage. They’re third in walks, so somebody needs to drive those guys in, and David Wright’s on the shelf.

But no. Duda is at Triple-A. And according to Andy Martino, the Mets have “all but given up on Duda”.

Now, that’s a strange formulation, right?

Look, it is understandable that with Ike Davis hitting well, the Mets want to see what he gives them over the final two months of the season. There’s the inherent problem that no matter how good his August-September period is, the Mets, by committing to Davis, leave themselves vulnerable if he has a third straight April-June like his 2012 and 2013. I might be inclined to sign up for the higher floor of Duda at first base, but I can see why the Mets are prioritizing Davis, who seems to have a higher ceiling.

So that leaves Duda position-less. Why the Mets are coming to this now, rather than after starting Duda in RF in 2012, where he was the worst defender, per UZR, in baseball at any position, or LF in 2013, where he has been the third-worst outfielder with at least 300 innings logged in baseball, is hard to fathom. Two years closer to free agency, two years older, and two demotions later, Duda’s trade value is almost certainly exponentially lower.

And if they deal Duda now for whatever spare part another team offers, they have zero first base insurance for the highly volatile Davis.

It’s not the Mets’ responsibility to find Duda a proper home. But his career has indisputably been hijacked by the team’s lack of outfield options over the past two years, and the dubious decision to not once, but twice, try to make Duda into what he clearly was not.

Just think: if Duda played virtually anywhere else, especially the American League, where every night’s lineup has two positions he can capably fill, he’d probably be an established regular by now.

Instead, he’s in Triple-A without a job.

Poor Lucas Duda.


http://mets.lohudblogs.com/2013/08/09/poor-lucas-duda/

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2013 10:56 AM
Re: Doo Doo Doo Doo Dah (Heartbreaker)

Poor Howard Megdal.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 12 2013 11:05 AM
Re: Doo Doo Doo Doo Dah (Heartbreaker)

Edgy MD wrote:
Poor Howard Megdal.


I think that Duda posed some difficult problems for the organization because he appeared to be so promising with the bat. But Duda's not an outfielder, and he's never gonna be one. He can learn to catch and to react to batted balls quickly and to gauge their landing spot from the instant the ball is struck, but he's too goddamn slow to play the outfield at the major league level and he ain't never gonna get any faster just like Mike Lavalliere wasn't ever gonna grow tall enough to play NBA center. Or guard.

I don't blame the Mets for not going with Duda at first base. It wasn't so unreasonable to give Ike first crack at the position. Ike's also shown that he can hit major league pitching quite well and Ike's a far better fielding first baseman than Duda.

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2013 11:08 AM
Re: Doo Doo Doo Doo Dah (Heartbreaker)

A perfectly reasonable position.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Aug 12 2013 11:17 AM
Re: Doo Doo Doo Doo Dah (Heartbreaker)

As a writer who specializes in repackaging other writer's magic quotes, Megdal ought to know that Tracky quickly published an official disavowing of the "all but given up" remark.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 12 2013 11:23 AM
Re: Doo Doo Doo Doo Dah (Heartbreaker)

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
As a writer who specializes in repackaging other writer's magic quotes, Megdal ought to know that Tracky quickly published an official disavowing of the "all but given up" remark.


From Martino's July 31st column:

What happens to Ike Davis, Lucas Duda and Josh Satin? Well, that is very much in flux. The Mets appear to have all but given up on Duda, and are torn on Davis -- it is difficult to cast aside a former first-rounder who hit 30 bombs last year, but his rising arbitration costs create the real possibility that the club will non-tender him this winter. The next two months will likely determine his future here.


http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/baseba ... ders-next-

I'm looking for the disavowing ....

metirish
Aug 12 2013 11:37 AM
Re: Doo Doo Doo Doo Dah (Heartbreaker)

You really have to wonder what Lucas Duda’s career would have been like in another organization.



I guess he might mean an AL squad.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Aug 12 2013 11:39 AM
Re: Doo Doo Doo Doo Dah (Heartbreaker)

ON DUDA

In reporting an analysis of the Mets’ short-term future for yesterday’s Insider, heard from a Mets source that the team had all but given up on the idea of Lucas Duda as a piece for the future. For the sake of equal time, I’ll pass along that I heard from another source yesterday who quibbled with that notion, saying that the ice under Duda was not as thin as the ice under Ike Davis, to use a cliche.

Either way, the larger point is that first base is in flux, Josh Satin has impressed, Davis and Duda are being evaluated, and the future is uncertain.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 12 2013 12:07 PM
Re: Doo Doo Doo Doo Dah (Heartbreaker)

"I'm just glad I'm not being 'evaluated.' That stuff's... uncomfortable."

-Josh Satin

metsguyinmichigan
Aug 12 2013 03:55 PM
Re: Doo Doo Doo Doo Dah (Heartbreaker)

The future is always uncertain. Not to get in the way of a good cliche or anything.

Ashie62
Aug 12 2013 04:47 PM
Re: Doo Doo Doo Doo Dah (Heartbreaker)

The Rays don't hire aging DH'S anymore..the MFY's do..

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2013 06:09 PM
Re: Doo Doo Doo Doo Dah (Heartbreaker)

The only players that aren't aging are those that are dead. As it is, the primary DH for the Rays this year has been Luke Scott, who is eight years older than Lucas Duda and an inferior hitter in 2013.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 12 2013 09:09 PM
Re: Doo Doo Doo Doo Dah (Heartbreaker)

This sez it all. Lotsa Psych 101 in this small piece:

Lucas Duda: 'I like DHing'
By Adam Rubin | ESPNNewYork.com

LOS ANGELES -- Lucas Duda finds himself at first base for a second straight day Monday with Triple-A Las Vegas, after exclusively playing left field or serving as designated hitter throughout his minor league tour.

Terry Collins and Sandy Alderson indicated that was Wally Backman's decision, not a directive from New York.

Duda had just spoken with the Wall Street Journal about being taken off a rehab assignment and optioned to Las Vegas, rather than returned to the majors when it was deemed he was healthy.

"You know what you're going to get with me out there," Duda told the newspaper about playing left field. "I'm a better first baseman. It's clear to see. Anybody can see it."

Duda added that outfield did weigh on him.

"I did feel a little bit of added pressure because of my lack of defensive capability," he said.

As for his ultimate position, Duda told the Journal: "I like DHing. That's a position, too."


http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/p ... like-dhing

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 12 2013 09:31 PM
Re: Doo Doo Doo Doo Dah (Heartbreaker)



The Mets’ Lost Minor-Leaguers
Tejada and Duda Were Once a Big Part of the Mets' Plans; Now They're Toiling Away in Las Vegas

By Jared Diamond

LAS VEGAS—On most afternoons, in the quiet time between batting practice and first pitch, the television in the musty old clubhouse at Cashman Field remains tuned to the Mets. The players here consider it a rare benefit of having a Triple-A affiliate 2,500 miles away: The three-hour time difference allows them to observe the team they aspire to join someday.

Lucas Duda and Ruben Tejada pay attention in a different, more personal way. More than anybody else in this room, they believe they deserve a job in New York. They spent much of the past four years there, ingraining themselves, they thought, as linchpins of the organization’s future.

And yet here they are, toiling away in anonymity, like a pair of forgotten soldiers lost in the Nevada desert. Their place on the Mets feels increasingly distant, as the TV taunts them with this horrifying reality: We’re better off without you.

Right now, that’s true. After a miserable start to the season, the Mets have gone 33-32 (.508) since Tejada injured his quadriceps in May (entering Monday). They’ve gone 25-20 (.556) since Duda strained his intercostal muscle a month later.

The Mets don’t view this as a coincidence. If they did, Duda and Tejada would probably be back in the majors by now.

Neither player is hurt anymore. Their rehab assignments are over. Instead, they are bona fide minor-leaguers, suddenly fighting for their baseball lives.

“Guys get hurt sometimes,” Las Vegas manager Wally Backman said, “and they never get their spot back.”

In separate interviews last weekend, Duda and Tejada both said it came as a surprise that the Mets optioned them to Las Vegas after reinstating them from the disabled list. What’s worse, there is no evidence to indicate that the Mets plan to bring them back soon, at least in a meaningful role.

Manager Terry Collins recently referred to Tejada as “the other guy,” while praising the current starting shortstop, Omar Quintanilla. With Duda, he said simply that “right now, there’s not a spot for him.” Though the Mets will likely promote both players when rosters expand in September, they probably won’t give them back their starting jobs.

In Duda’s case, this leaves him at a career crossroads. It could even signal the end of his tenure with the Mets.

Duda is a first baseman. He isn’t an outfielder. The Mets experimented with him in the outfield for the past several seasons. The experiment failed miserably.

A large portion of the Mets’ recent resurgence stems from their vastly improved outfield defense, particularly Eric Young, Duda’s replacement, in left.

“You know what you’re going to get with me out there,” Duda said. “I’m a better first baseman. It’s clear to see. Anybody can see it.”

One problem: The Mets already have a first baseman. It isn’t Duda.

By bringing Ike Davis back from the minors and leaving Duda in Vegas, they signaled that, at least for now, they see Davis as the better long-term option at the position. Considering that Davis entered Monday with a .482 on-base percentage since returning from Triple-A, it is hard to blame them.

It makes sense that the Mets tried Duda in the outfield. They hoped his offensive potential would overshadow his terrible defense, and Davis and Duda could play together.

The issue is Duda never hit as well as they hoped—perhaps because of the position switch. Knowing that he needed to produce monstrous offensive numbers to compensate for the runs he would allow in the outfield, Duda admitted “I did feel a little bit of added pressure because of my lack of defensive capability.”

“They’ve got to make a decision about what they’re going to do,” Backman said. “If you can’t have both of them playing at the same time, somebody’s gotta go. That’s just the way baseball is.”

So where does that leave Duda? Despite his slow start since arriving in Vegas, there is little doubt Duda provides value offensively. Among Mets players with at least 100 at-bats (entering Monday), his .353 OBP this season still ranks second on the team. His 11 home runs rank fourth.

Will the Mets try him again in the outfield? Will they give him another chance to play first? Will they attempt to trade him to an American League team where he can be a designated hitter?

The answers could determine Duda’s future.

“I like DHing,” Duda said. “That’s a position, too.”

Tejada, still just 23, finds himself in a different—and more mysterious—situation. When he got hurt, he was hitting .209, and his defense at shortstop appeared to have regressed. He looked nothing like the player who hit .289 a year ago.

His performance hasn’t improved much in Triple-A, where he entered Monday with a disappointing .313 OBP. He is hitting too many fly balls for a player who doesn’t hit many homers.

At this point, the Mets don’t know what to make of Tejada. Collins has said he arrived at spring training out of shape, which likely contributed to his slow start. Though Backman said Tejada is in good shape now, he probably wasn’t ready for game action when the season started in April.

“At the end of the year when he gets back, there’s going to be a conversation of what he needs to do this winter to make sure next spring he’s ready to go,” Collins said. “You got to look down the road and say Ruben Tejada’s got to get it going because he’s 23 years old for heavens sakes.”

Something needs to change. Franchise shortstops don’t come around often, and the Mets thought they had one in Tejada. They still think he can recover and emerge as a reliable performer.

Tejada does, too. And clearly, he still sees himself as a major leaguer. When asked about the whereabouts of “Perry,” a pillow shaped like a cartoon platypus that he used to keep in his locker, he responded, “home.”

He was referring not to his native Panama—but to New York.

“Everything happened pretty quick,” Tejada said. “I have to work a lot and come back ready to make the team.”

Tejada and Duda both just want a chance. At this point, a chance is something they will have to earn.


http://stream.wsj.com/story/latest-head ... -2-299903/

Ceetar
Aug 13 2013 05:04 AM
Re: Doo Doo Doo Doo Dah (Heartbreaker)

I just wish people would stop referring to Eric Young Jr like he's the solution, or good at defense.

Edgy MD
Aug 13 2013 08:10 AM
Re: Doo Doo Doo Doo Dah (Heartbreaker)

I'm not sure what you're referring to, but as much as I complain about Young's positioning, after seeing Duda's work out there for the last several years, Young looks like some genetically created outfielder spawned from the DNA of Roberto Clemente and Rudolf Nureyev.

You kill yourself looking for something akin to "the solution." Nobody's marrying the guy. Better to look for improvements and opportunities, and Young has fit that bill just fine, even as his strike three hack in the ninth last night was fugly.

Ceetar
Aug 13 2013 08:14 AM
Re: Doo Doo Doo Doo Dah (Heartbreaker)

Edgy MD wrote:
I'm not sure what you're referring to, but as much as I complain about Young's positioning, after seeing Duda's work out there for the last several years, Young looks like some genetically created outfielder spawned from the DNA of Roberto Clemente and Rudolf Nureyev.

You kill yourself looking for something akin to "the answer." Nobody's marrying the guy. Better to look for improvements and opportunities, and Young has fit that bill just fine, even as his strike three hack in the ninth last night was fugly.


I've got no problem looking for improvements and opportunities. I'm pretty convinced Young ain't it. I get that the Mets are giving it more of a chance than I did, and that's fine, but I still disagree and suspect they'll come to the same conclusion.