Master Index of Archived Threads
When Pele and Cosmos were kings
metirish Jun 13 2005 09:44 PM |
|
Did anyone here on the board see Pele play for the Cosmos?
|
Edgy DC Jun 13 2005 10:46 PM |
I saw him. The thing is that most of the big name imports -- Pele, Beckenbauer, Neeskins -- had little left when they came to the Cosmos, and probably would have retired had they been in Europe. The ones who truly carried the team were guys whocame from Europe unknown, like Giorgio Chinaglia, Carlos Alberto, and Vladislav Bogicevic, as well as American (I think) Steve Wegerle. Chinaglia was a humped-back force, hunching down and playing the kind of back-to-the-net pivot-striker that usually you associate with shorter men. He once scored eight goals in a 9-1 playoff victory.
|
MFS62 Jun 14 2005 05:14 AM |
I saw him. You could feel the electricity when he came near the ball. Alas, soccer was still soccer. Many of the fans who showed up were like the celebrities who show up at NBA Finals and World Series games. They were there for the experience, but many had no appreciation for the game. When there was no more glitz after he left, they began to stay away in droves.
|
Edgy DC Jun 14 2005 05:46 AM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jun 14 2005 06:06 AM |
I remember them still drawing well in the years immediately after he left.
|
MFS62 Jun 14 2005 06:05 AM |
There was a blip in attendance when Beckenbauer joined the Cosmos. Star power in New York more than a love for the game.
|
Edgy DC Jun 14 2005 06:07 AM |
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Here are their average attendances by season.
Their true golden era was the three years after Pele left.
|
MFS62 Jun 14 2005 06:26 AM |
Wasn't Beckenbauer there for those high attendance years? When he left, the fans suddenly realized they were watching soccer. The fans saw that 16 year olds from around the world could outperform the best trained American soccer players and lost interest. Maybe a NIH syndrome kicked (no pun intended) in. Who knows?
|
sharpie Jun 14 2005 06:28 AM |
I missed it completely. Moved to California in '72, came back in late '83. There was no comparable pro soccer frenzy in the Bay Area in those years.
|
Edgy DC Jun 14 2005 06:49 AM |
What happened during those years is that the Cosmos were a wonderful team playing excellent ball. They hosted some great foreign teams during his period and held their own.
|
seawolf17 Jun 14 2005 07:08 AM |
How were the Cosmos related to the Arrows? I don't remember the Cosmos at all, but I definitely went to see the Arrows play at Nassau Coliseum a couple of times. I remember a guy named Messing, I think.
|
Willets Point Jun 14 2005 07:13 AM |
My father took me to what I remember being a very crowded Giants Stadium for Cosmos games when I was a kid. Almost certainly post-Pele, but most likely in the era Edgy defines as the golden era.
|
metirish Jun 14 2005 07:24 AM |
Good stuff guys, I guessed we would have a few here that went to Cosmos games, in related news the woeful MetroStars have named American soccer legend Alexi Lalas the team's new president.
|
Edgy DC Jun 14 2005 08:01 AM Edited 4 time(s), most recently on Jun 14 2005 08:25 AM |
The Arrows and their supastar Steve Zungul played in the Major Indoor Soccer League. Cosmos veteran Messing was, in a small way, what Pele had been to the Cosmos and NASL, a veteran in the twilight of his career lending his star power to an upstart franchise and league, as well as the crediibility of the more established league he came from. In reailty, he only tended goal in half or less of the teams games, as goaltending on a surface of astroturf bonded onto ice was brutal business. He gradually yielded the lion's share of time to his tandem partner, an Iron Curtain refugee with the cool handle of Zoltan Toth.
|
metirish Jun 14 2005 08:20 AM |
Looks like Shep hasn't changed that much..
|
MFS62 Jun 14 2005 08:41 AM |
Didn't Alexi Lalas have weird hair?
|
Frayed Knot Jun 14 2005 08:48 AM |
Lalas had a big mane of red hair and and a shaggy goatee to match.
|
Edgy DC Jun 14 2005 08:58 AM |
Personally, I think that almost every upstart league has made the same mistake since.
|
ScarletKnight41 Jun 14 2005 09:07 AM |
Joining in late here -
|
Johnny Dickshot Jun 14 2005 09:28 AM |
I saw the Arrows ca. 1983 with Gia Cerone* . Don't recall much of the game. Do seem to remember a team logo that looked like it was designed by a Jr. High Schooler.
|
Edgy DC Jun 14 2005 09:39 AM |
I went to my first Arrows game after playing an all-star game on the surface at the Colliseum. I still owe Kenny Wolf a whack for knocking me into the boards.
|
Johnny Dickshot Jun 14 2005 09:46 AM |
Inspired by the PAC-Man logo
|
seawolf17 Jun 14 2005 09:48 AM |
Don't forget Val Tuksa, Zoltan Toth, and Fred Grgurev.
|
Edgy DC Jun 14 2005 09:49 AM |
Another MISL team was called the Cleveland Force, and they introduced their players to Star Wars music while Darth Vader swung a light saber.
|
metirish Jun 14 2005 09:57 AM |
Did George Best play in MISL or NASL, I know it was of a team in San Jose and on a George Best video I had when I was a kid it had an amazing goal he scored where he beat just about every player on the other team before scoring.
|
Edgy DC Jun 14 2005 10:04 AM |
George Best's remains played in the NASL for the Los Angeles Aztecs, Fort Lauderdale Strikers, and San Jose Earthquakes.
|
Willets Point Jun 14 2005 10:10 AM |
Don't forget the proposal for Pele Stadium.
|
metirish Jun 14 2005 11:03 AM |
Best got arrested just last week for domestic violence,.he showed up at his Ex's place drunk and apparently hit a friend of hers...
|
TheOldMole Jun 14 2005 01:31 PM |
I saw Pele's farewell game.
|
metirish Jun 14 2005 09:33 PM |
|
"George where did it all go wrong?"
|
metirish Jul 08 2005 09:21 PM |
|
To follow up on the great Pele..
|