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IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 11:24 AM

Ashie hasn''t started the thread, but the ump has started the game, so I'm jumping in.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 11:27 AM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Hefner swapped in as starter and did fine in the first. Young leads off with a hit for the Mets. Keith congratulating Gary with flourish for remembering that Jerry Royster replaced Ned Yost as Brewers manager, but GAry's got it wrong. It was Dale Sveum.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 11:31 AM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Hope everything's well, Ash. End of one and scoreless.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 11:34 AM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Diving basket catch by Young of what might have been a routine fly had he positioned himself closer to normal.

Zvon Aug 03 2013 11:37 AM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Edgy MD wrote: Hope everything's well, Ash. My thoughts as well. Nice catch by Young. He's good at coming in on flies. Robs a hit with a serious diving grab off the grass.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 11:45 AM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Murph slugging against a lefty is a good thing. KAPOW!

Zvon Aug 03 2013 11:46 AM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

A no doubter. Deep deep right center.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 11:47 AM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Nice to see Murph selling Byrd on how he pulled it off. Nice card.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 11:48 AM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Too many burritos, Turner.

Zvon Aug 03 2013 11:49 AM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Justin, justin, justin. I thought it was a double for sure. oh poo.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 11:50 AM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Of course you did. Any ball hit there is a double. But Turner's ass is getting large.

Ceetar Aug 03 2013 11:54 AM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Edgy MD wrote: Of course you did. Any ball hit there is a double. But Turner's ass is getting large. Well it WAS a double, and it took an excellent play to be close enough to call him out. But Turner is basically 80-90% of what Murphy is (and I guess plays SS? I don't know if that counts). Nice to have, versatile, but you really don't need both of them and Murphy's better.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 11:59 AM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Oh, I don't buy that 80-90%. He's clearly worse at second, third, and first. He's about as bad as a shortstop can be. Murphy's probably a better hitter against lefties. Whatever Turner was two years ago, he ain't really now. It was one of Whitey Herzog's explicit values that you never want to give a bench player too much job security. He's siimply slow. And that's not not a good trait for your play-anywhere utility guy. And it's really not not a good trait for your play-anywhere utility guy when your bench is short and you're really gonna need him everywhere.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 12:00 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

And everything has gone pearish of shape since that mistake by Turner. Bases-loaded, one out, tied at one.

Zvon Aug 03 2013 12:02 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

I was afk a few and I come back to a tie. And bases loaded for KC. And no out. And...

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 12:03 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Hefner's breaking stuff making Butler look silly. Let's get Gordon.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 12:03 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Well, that was an unsettling out, as Gordon flies to the fence. Royals up 2-1.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 12:05 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Gotta come up and in on somebody, Hef. Find your inner Harvey.

Zvon Aug 03 2013 12:07 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Re-watched the Turner non-double and you just have to tip your hat to Gordon there (and the charitable bounce off the wall) and on top of that Red did get his foot in there and was safe. Hef with a shaky third and we are down 3-1.

Zvon Aug 03 2013 12:14 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

BOOOOOOOO LAGARES!

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 12:31 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Chen changing speeds effectively, but not much else. Righties are getting around on him easily, but not stringing anything together.

Ceetar Aug 03 2013 12:32 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Edgy MD wrote: Oh, I don't buy that 80-90%. He's clearly worse at second, third, and first. He's about as bad as a shortstop can be. Murphy's probably a better hitter against lefties. Whatever Turner was two years ago, he ain't really now. It was one of Whitey Herzog's explicit values that you never want to give a bench player too much job security. He's siimply slow. And that's not not a good trait for your play-anywhere utility guy. And it's really not not a good trait for your play-anywhere utility guy when your bench is short and you're really gonna need him everywhere. Turner's been dealing with some stuff this year. You're right that he ain't now and that they really shouldn't play him MORE (Satin getting most of the time is my choice right now) but I don't think he won't be what he's been in the past again. That's not very good, and it doesn't really fit with the Mets, but I don't think he's quite as worthless as is made out. He just should be the 'give the guys a breather' guy and occasional PH against righties guy especially when you need contact over power. That's probably what got him the 'clutch' label originally, guys that put the ball in play with runners on base can find plenty of holes, rushing or bad fielders, or simply hit it hard. Anyway guys, score some runs please? It's Bruce Chen.I know, I know, before most of you got to the Majors..but he's not good.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 12:45 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

I don't know what he's dealing with, but I certainly dothen't think he's worthless. I just don't think he should be thought of as a shortstop in any but the break-glass sense. I liked Fernando Tatis better there. A guy with that sort of lateral range and relatively modest arm at short better be able to rip the ball on offense.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 01:05 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

We're not touching Chen at all. Nine in a row. Harder to do it against the bullpen.

Frayed Knot Aug 03 2013 01:07 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

A very discouraging offensive afternoon so far. Chen has retired nine in a row and the Mets have 8 Ks but only 4 hits - 3 singles and Murph's boom.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 01:15 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

And I just don't see how he's fooling them. No speed, and no impressive movement, so it must be placement (also not particularly impressing me) and changing speeds enough to keep them guessing wrong.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 01:18 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

There it is from Murph. We can hit the fastball, just not the junque. Tying run at the plate.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 01:18 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

There it is from Murph. We can hit the fastball, just not the junque. Tying run at the plate.

Ceetar Aug 03 2013 01:20 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Edgy MD wrote: There it is from Murph. We can hit the fastball, just not the junque. Tying run at the plate. well, that's not Chen no more. this offense misses Wright already though.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 01:22 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Let's pull Q and send Brown up against the lefty. Flurg, who else didn't want to see Recker up there?

Ceetar Aug 03 2013 01:23 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Edgy MD wrote: Let's pull Q and send Brown up against the lefty. Flurg, who else didn't want to see Recker up there? this works right? Turner *gulp* slides over but then you could go one of a dozen ways with the easiest being Brown to LF Young to second Murphy to third.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 01:27 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

It would likely work better with a second real shortstop. But Q's strikeout definitively didn't' work.

Zvon Aug 03 2013 01:28 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Q have anything left at the plate for this season? It don't look like it.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 01:31 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Pedro Feliciano, centerfielder.

Zvon Aug 03 2013 01:31 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Funniest pop up eveh.

Frayed Knot Aug 03 2013 01:32 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Has Pedro got someone's signature tattooed behind his left ear? HIs own? His doctor's? Jack Lew's maybe?

Zvon Aug 03 2013 01:38 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Frayed Knot wrote: Has Pedro got someone's signature tattooed behind his left ear? HIs own? His doctor's? Jack Lew's maybe? I thought it was sweaty matted hair.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 01:40 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Nice job, Brown. Needed that last inning, but...

Zvon Aug 03 2013 01:44 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Ha! SS wears braces.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 03 2013 01:48 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Satin smoov

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 01:48 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

ALRIGHT!!! (I just scared two sleeping dogs to death.)

Zvon Aug 03 2013 01:48 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Cant catch em all braceface.

Zvon Aug 03 2013 01:53 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Nice try on the freaky foul. Oh yea, Ha! Gordon, you sucked that time.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 01:56 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

I guess the presence of Atchy means that Parnell is still unavailable.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 02:00 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Atchy getting it done with the arm and the legs. The key to this game is our bullpen's defense.

Zvon Aug 03 2013 02:00 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Nice inning ol' man. I'm not used to a steady pen. And as soon as I do get used to it....well, ya know...it's the Mets.

Frayed Knot Aug 03 2013 02:03 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Turner - Recker - SQuinty ... sounds like some runs. Or not.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 03 2013 02:04 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

I think the Wrecker pops one here and ends it.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 02:04 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Recker's got beefcake power.

Frayed Knot Aug 03 2013 02:06 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I think the Wrecker pops one here and ends it. Seems like it's been a while since we saw Recker get close to a pitch.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 02:13 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

How about our bullpen?

Ceetar Aug 03 2013 02:14 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

these extra innings are messing with my desire for a pre-booze nap.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 02:19 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

EY has a mean game face when he's at the plate.

Frayed Knot Aug 03 2013 02:23 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Edgy MD wrote: EY has a mean game face when he's at the plate. It's that big jaw. A between-innings graphic confirms what I've long suspected, that the Mets are averaging the longest games in the NL this season (3 hours 11 minutes) and are tied for third longest overall in the majors. The Red Sox, to no one's surprise, head the list.

Zvon Aug 03 2013 02:27 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Frayed Knot wrote: Edgy MD wrote: EY has a mean game face when he's at the plate. It's that big jaw. A between-innings graphic confirms what I've long suspected, that the Mets are averaging the longest games in the NL this season (3 hours 11 minutes) and are tied for third longest overall in the majors. The Red Sox, to no one's surprise, head the list. So more Met baseball for our buck. Awesome!

Frayed Knot Aug 03 2013 02:32 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

So more Met baseball for our buck. Awesome! Well, slightly more* Met baseball for the buck based on there being so many extra innings games. But mostly it's just the same amount of baseball just l-o-n-g-e-r and more stretched out. * and Gary confirms that this 11th inning here is the Mets 47th extra inning of the season, the most in MLB for 2013 oe: and now on to eXI #48

Zvon Aug 03 2013 02:38 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Frayed Knot wrote: Zvon wrote: So more Met baseball for our buck. Awesome! Well, slightly more Met baseball for the buck based on there being so many extra innings games. But mostly it's just the same amount of baseball just l-o-n-g-e-r and more stretched out. I prefer them to drag things out with some post season play but I'll take this. Gary sez 47 extra innings played by the Mets? Thats 5 games right there.

Frayed Knot Aug 03 2013 02:40 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Was removing Murphy instead of say Satin worth the extra two spots in the batting order? ... Mebbe

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 02:41 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Feels like Aardsma has pitched every day for a week.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 02:41 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

And there he goes.

Zvon Aug 03 2013 02:45 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Keith with the Beanie and Cecil reference that ages us all. In a good way.

Frayed Knot Aug 03 2013 02:50 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

We've beat better closers than this guy.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 02:53 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Buck showing some humanity. Shouldn't he be at the hospital?

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 02:54 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Any relation to Al Holland?

Frayed Knot Aug 03 2013 02:56 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Frayed Knot wrote: We've beat better closers than this guy. Just not lately.

Zvon Aug 03 2013 02:58 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Gah. Bullpen was great yet we still lose the battle of the bullpens. Well, datsAbaseball.

Edgy MD Aug 03 2013 06:45 PM Re: IGT, KC @ NYM, 8/3

Well, really we won that battle. We just didn't win it by enough to offset our loss in the battle of the starters. Bruce Chen Wow.