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10 Facts About Hank Webb

Edgy MD Jul 30 2013 08:44 AM

1. A 1973 Met, if only for two appearances. 2. Wore four different Mets numbers in only 53 games, which must be some sort of record for number switching. This includes the now-retired 42. 3. Father of Ryan Webb, who pitched against the Mets last night. 4. Native of Copiague. 5. Alum of SUNY New Paltz. Looked like it, too. 6. Then he grew a mustache and looked like a pedophile. 7. Threw a seven-inning no-hitter as a Tidewater Tide. 8. Losing pitcher in the longest game ever played to a decision, when he threw away a pickoff throw in the 25th inning and Bake McBride came all the way around to score from first. 9. Supposedly, that play should have been ruled dead, as a balk had been called, and unlike some other times (batting out of order, perhaps), you don't get to decline the penalty. 10. Ryan claims to have never seen footage of his father pitching, and doesn't know where to find any.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 30 2013 09:29 AM Re: 10 Facts About Hank Webb

Did anybody here collect baseball cards in 1975?

batmagadanleadoff Jul 30 2013 09:35 AM Re: 10 Facts About Hank Webb

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Did anybody here collect baseball cards in 1975? Well? Anybody?

Edgy MD Jul 30 2013 09:36 AM Re: 10 Facts About Hank Webb

Yes, sir, I did.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 30 2013 09:44 AM Re: 10 Facts About Hank Webb

I have about 10 billion '75 cards in a box at home, including all those 3 pictured.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 30 2013 09:54 AM Re: 10 Facts About Hank Webb

In 1975, as in all other years from that era, you could buy your baseball cards in a retail store, typically a candy store or luncheonette type deal. The cards usualy came in packs of 10, and the packs themselves were contained in a rectangular vendor's box. The boxes would usually depict either a baseball superstar of the day or a generic make-believe baseball player. Here's an image of the 1976 Topps box, featuring a logo-less image reversed Brooks Robinson. Here's a 1972 Topps box, featuring a generic baseball player: Anyway, in 1975, Topps featured, on their retail vendor box, a relatively unknown rookie from the NY Mets. Fella by the name of Webb.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 30 2013 10:00 AM Re: 10 Facts About Hank Webb

wOw

batmagadanleadoff Jul 30 2013 10:01 AM Re: 10 Facts About Hank Webb

This thread now goes to 11!

HahnSolo Jul 30 2013 10:09 AM Re: 10 Facts About Hank Webb

Awesome find.

Edgy MD Jul 30 2013 10:17 AM Re: 10 Facts About Hank Webb

Does your collection include vendor boxes?

batmagadanleadoff Jul 30 2013 10:31 AM Re: 10 Facts About Hank Webb

Edgy MD wrote: Does your collection include vendor boxes? I collect only Mets cards. But yes, I have the Webb box, and some other boxes featuring Mets. The 1970 Topps box features a 1970 style Tom Seaver baseball card, but not the actual Seaver card from that set. There's a mid-1980's Fleer box featuring Gary Carter, too. The Webb Topps box is one of the oddest pieces of Mets memorabilia I've ever come across. Topps' decision to feature Webb on that box defies explanation.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 30 2013 10:36 AM Re: 10 Facts About Hank Webb

For many years I stored my cards in a cardboard Topps shipping box, probably from 75 or 76. I had to toss it when the box disintergrated on me.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 30 2013 08:38 PM Re: 10 Facts About Hank Webb

That was my fourth year of collecting, but the second year of all-out obsessive collecting that only an 11-year-old can muster! I sent the Seaver card to him as a gift, thinking he might like to have one. (Look, I was 11.) He sent it back signed, cementing total hero worship.

Zvon Jul 30 2013 08:59 PM Re: 10 Facts About Hank Webb

My brothers all have collected boxes as well as wax. One has a real nice ...I think its '58 wax. I always knew there was a Met on the 75 box but I didn't think it was Webb. I thought it was a generic Met. I was not a fan of the '75 card design then or now, but there still is some good nostalgia there for me. Never got the '75 minis back in the day but in the late 80s we found a card guy who was selling unopened boxes and bought a bunch. That was an awesome pack party.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 30 2013 09:55 PM Re: 10 Facts About Hank Webb

I always knew there was a Met on the 75 box but I didn't think it was Webb. I thought it was a generic Met. Your theory makes more sense to me. Mets Card of the Week: 1975 Hank Webb box October 3, 2012 By Doug Parker Back in the spring of 2011, I did a piece on Hank Webb. This past May, I wrote about a 1970 Topps box. Well, today is the Reese’s Peanut Butter Cup moment. The moment that I stumble into the path of a random stranger, we collide awkwardly, and then exclaim in sequence “You got Webb on my box!/No, you got box on my Webb!” This moment comes courtesy of the 1975 Topps wax box, which in both its regular and mini configurations carried an image of Hank Webb hurling a pearly white sphere straight at the young consumers of the day. Lost to the mists of time is why Topps saw fit to use an image of Webb. He put up decent numbers in Tidewater in 1974, but nothing good enough to qualify as a top-tier prospect. And anyway, what did we know of top-tier prospects in 1975? Back then, new players just kind of showed up, and Ralph/Lindsey/Bob gave us the scoop. Topps would go on to feature an airbrushed Brooks Robinson on the 1976 wax box, but they were up to their old tricks in 1977, using a shot of journeyman OF Bob Jones. This practice of picturing relatively low-profile players continued until the early ’80s, when Topps appears to have finally recalled what it knew full well back in the ’60s: superstars sell. Nonetheless, I find this period in their history kind of charming, and I’m very happy that one of our own Mets made the cut in 1975. Because Hank Webb and a Topps wax box are indeed two great tastes that taste great together… http://mets360.com/?p=13061

batmagadanleadoff Jul 31 2013 10:16 AM Re: 10 Facts About Hank Webb

The Mets were everywhere in the year or so following their Miracle of '69. Even Art Shamsky made the cover of a national fashion magazine, sharing the front page with fashion supermodel Lauern Hutton. Here are two Topps vendor retail boxes from 1970. This one features a generic Met: And this one features Tom Seaver on an alternate 1970 Topps card. Actual Topps 1970 Seaver card:

Edgy MD Jul 31 2013 10:23 AM Re: 10 Facts About Hank Webb

Here are two Topps vendor retail boxes from 1970. This one features a generic Met: If I was told that was modeled on an actual 1969 Met, and had to geuss which one, I'd go with Ken Boswell --- or more specifically, Ken Boswell committing harikari with the jagged point of his broken bat.

Zvon Jul 31 2013 02:24 PM Re: 10 Facts About Hank Webb

Boswell had the burns. He may have been the first guy I ever saw where I thought : when I grow up I want side burns like his. Still could be him because the burns came on around 68 into 69. That guy has a little side burn thing goin but Boswell had cool long ones. I personally think if we want to tag anyone to that image its J.C. Martin laying down his infamous bunt.

Zvon Aug 02 2013 02:22 PM Re: 10 Facts About Hank Webb

I just noticed there is a number on the players bat. 23. Usually a players number can be found on the bottom of the knob. I don't think I've ever seen one on top. Looking into it at MBTN and we had Bob Heise wearing 23 from Aug 31 1967 to Sept 28 1968. Then it was given to Leroy Stanton in Sept of 71. So according to MBTN the number 23 was not used in 1969 or 1970. I see that Heise did come up to the club in Sept of 1969. There is no record of what number he wore during that stint. He was traded after the '69 season. Here he dons #3 pre '69. (or thirty something?) I personally don't think that supposed to be Heise on the box. So then, whats the significance of the number 23 on the top of the bat?

Edgy MD Aug 02 2013 02:28 PM Re: 10 Facts About Hank Webb

That's a good eye, and I'd say you were right on --- the sideburns are even right --- but Heise didn't bat lefty.