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IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posting

batmagadanleadoff Aug 24 2013 02:18 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 24 2013 02:26 PM

batmagadanleadoff Aug 24 2013 02:19 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Aug 24 2013 02:23 PM

The MLB Weekend Top 10: The Best Pitching Matchup You'll Never See By Shane Ryan on August 23, 2013 5:16 PM ET The weekend is here, and I don't know about you, but I'm ready to sit back, watch some baseball, cry, watch more baseball, think about exercising, back to baseball, cry, baseball, eat, cry, baseball, baseball, cryball, eat, cryercise, baseball, eat. WHO'S WITH ME?! To approach this with sober objectivity: We might be dealing with the best weekend of baseball so far this season. There are no less than four incredible series matchups, a wonderful, tragic pitchers' duel, and a special bonus slotting in at no. 10 … 1. Tragic Pitching Matchup of the Week: Max Scherzer vs. Matt Harvey (Saturday, DET-NYM) In all the time I've been writing the MLB Weekend Top 10 (37 years this September), I don't believe I've ever seen a better duel. Do I even need to sing their praises? If the season ended now, they'd both deserve to finish second in Cy Young voting. I say "deserve" because Scherzer would undeservedly win the AL Cy Young, and Harvey would undeservedly fall outside the top two in the NL. But forget all the technical nonsense — these are two of the best strikeout artists in the game, and the fact that the schedules lined up so they'll face each other in an Interleague game is just fantastic. Now, the tragedy. Since this is a Fox Saturday game, you will probably not get to watch it. You can check the coverage map here — unless you live near the New York or Detroit metropolitan areas (or near Kansas City, for some reason), you will be seeing Boston-L.A. or Oakland-Baltimore in the 4 p.m. time slot. I've written extensively about the baseball blackout absurdities surrounding the game, but at least those are byzantine business entanglements in which MLB is only one culprit. But this? THIS IS MADNESS! This is MLB and Fox killing themselves. Why wouldn't you make this game available nationally? I mean, at least put it on one of the 18 Fox Sports channels, right? I don't know what the satellite situation is — if you go to a bar with DirecTV, will they be able to pick up a New York Fox affiliate? — but as of now, there is no way to watch this game on any MLB package. I'm not one for predicting the future, but I definitely have visions of myself screaming at a crappy Internet feed at around 4 p.m. tomorrow. This is easily the worst pitchers' duel tease of all time. Thanks again, MLB, for mismanaging an excellent product. Other than that, though, should be a great weekend! Have fun! [Sobs.] http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-trian ... -never-see

Kong76 Aug 24 2013 02:20 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

Watching and posting over here

batmagadanleadoff Aug 24 2013 02:25 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 24 2013 02:29 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 24 2013 02:29 PM

ooooh, Los Mets en Los Orango Uniformas. Senor Harvey no bueno. Mucho macho!

Kong76 Aug 24 2013 02:29 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

Didn't sound like Burkhardt at first, guess he sounds different from the Pepsi Porch.

themetfairy Aug 24 2013 02:34 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

Watching for now - need to go out soon. An rbi double by Scherzer? Really?

batmagadanleadoff Aug 24 2013 02:39 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: ooooh, Los Mets en Los Orango Uniformas. Senor Harvey no bueno. Mucho macho! If the Mets weren't pinching pennies, Jeff woulda also had 'em in matching orange pants.

Kong76 Aug 24 2013 02:43 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

Lotta fannies in the seaties!

Lefty Specialist Aug 24 2013 02:59 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

Harvey pitching like a mere mortal today.

Kong76 Aug 24 2013 03:22 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

Scherzer putting on a pitching clinic through four with like nine strikeouts (didn't see last out) ....

Edgy MD Aug 24 2013 03:24 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

We should be bunting like nutjobs today.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 24 2013 03:37 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 24 2013 03:50 PM

With the watching-two-off-the-outside-corner sliders and the multiple-pitch-spoiling and whatnot, nice AB and walk from Johnny Olivepressers.

Edgy MD Aug 24 2013 03:44 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

Howie real excited by Harvey earning a walk. Real excited.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 24 2013 03:49 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

Well, hey, it's offense, of a kind. Unlike what Eric Young's kid is doing up at the plate. Striking out on a high hanger, ye gods.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 24 2013 04:04 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

Wait a minute... ACTUAL offense? From Murph and Ike? [Rubs eyes]

Gwreck Aug 24 2013 04:11 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

John Buck, you're fired.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 24 2013 04:12 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

To be fair, it was Johnny Vintner who soured the sweeter chance.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 24 2013 04:21 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

Omar Infante is catcher-slow. Still, nice throw by EYJ to grill that meat on Fielder's single.

Gwreck Aug 24 2013 04:23 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: To be fair, it was Johnny Vintner who soured the sweeter chance. Yabbut, swinging first pitch when the pitcher is clearly tiring and struggling with command? Just poor

Frayed Knot Aug 24 2013 04:53 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

Gwreck wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: To be fair, it was Johnny Vintner who soured the sweeter chance. Yabbut, swinging first pitch when the pitcher is clearly tiring and struggling with command? Just poor And a hit there really would have made Scherzer's brown eye blue.

Edgy MD Aug 24 2013 05:16 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

Time for the furious comeback.

Edgy MD Aug 24 2013 05:19 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

Or to go noiselessly. That could happen too.

Frayed Knot Aug 24 2013 05:26 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

That's [u:1b0kjcjs]2 runs scored total[/u:1b0kjcjs] over the last three games. Not going to win a lot that way.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 24 2013 05:43 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

I mean, I expected these games vs. ATL and DET to be difficult especially following that long road trip but looks like we're doing the regular late-season SHaM bottom-out now. Damn. Yuck. I'm pretty sure this makes the decision not to retain TC easier but otherwise I'd like the summer to continue another few weeks one of these years. I'm sad and miss that. I really do.

Gwreck Aug 24 2013 05:51 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I'm sad and miss that. I really do. Yeah. It was a really nice day at the park, great pitching matchup and all, but first when the Tigers scored, and then after the Lagares/Buck combined failure there was just no hope of a comeback. There's barely 1.5 quality major leaguers in our lineup here.

Zvon Aug 24 2013 07:34 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

I gotta blame FOX for blocking out the fan with the mo-jo, me. If I was watching this never would have happened. I'm glad FOX got an additional sports channel. That's two channels I will never watch for sports, ever. Let me reiterate: fuck you FOXsports.

Ashie62 Aug 24 2013 08:29 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

Waiting for the interweb to talk more about shutting Harvey down anytime now. Some of these AL teams seem like real powerhouses..above and beyond ATL and LA

G-Fafif Aug 24 2013 10:42 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

I watched from Promenade. I watched Omar Quintanilla leap for a line drive that was probably 20 feet over his head. I watch him leap full out for balls that are multiple Quintanillas above his person all the time. He will strain something before he catches something.

MFS62 Aug 25 2013 06:28 AM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

G-Fafif wrote: I watched from Promenade. I watched Omar Quintanilla leap for a line drive that was probably 20 feet over his head. I watch him leap full out for balls that are multiple Quintanillas above his person all the time. He will strain something before he catches something. Well, he must have already strained his brain. After the opposing pitcher has just walked one (or was it two?) batters, why did he swing at the first pitch? I wanted to put my fist through my car radio. Later

Frayed Knot Aug 25 2013 06:49 PM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

Gwreck wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: To be fair, it was Johnny Vintner who soured the sweeter chance. Yabbut, swinging first pitch when the pitcher is clearly tiring and struggling with command? Just poor Interesting though that Keith, as revealed on Sunday's broadcast, was much more disturbed by Lagares's AB than by Buck's. Claimed even that it kept him awake that night. Now we all know that Keith is often critical of overly passive hitters a condition which, as he sees it, is caused by too much film work and reliance on computer charts. Lagares certainly played into that as, unlike Back, he took pitches but in doing so took two fastballs essentially down the middle which set him up to eventually chase an up and in pitch on a 1-2 count for strike three. Keith no likey.

Edgy MD Aug 26 2013 08:14 AM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

I remember Keith furious this weekend seeing Lagares taking all the way on a 3-1 pitch in an RBI situation, and getting a fattie down the middle. If it bothers you so much, Keef, volunteer your services.

Gwreck Aug 26 2013 08:16 AM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

I don't think TV commentary works that way.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 26 2013 09:48 AM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

It's definitely a sign of my decreased interest as a baseball fan that the Mets went up against a pitcher with a 18-1 record, and I didn't recognize his name. I mean, I know I'm only a fraction of the fan I used to be, but stuff like this still surprises me.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 26 2013 10:00 AM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

He was also the AL starting pitcher in this year's ASG. Saturday's game was the first time in baseball history that the two starting pitchers from the same ASG faced each other in the regular season. Gooden and Clemens, the '86 ASG starters, faced each other in that year's WS.

Frayed Knot Aug 26 2013 10:09 AM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

Gwreck wrote: I don't think TV commentary works that way. Yeah, Keith would be way out of bounds if he simply took it upon himself to start offering advice to Lagares, or to anyone for that matter. He did say something about making a point of talking to Hudgens about what the philosophy/mind-set is in that type of AB

Ceetar Aug 26 2013 10:13 AM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

Frayed Knot wrote: Gwreck wrote: I don't think TV commentary works that way. Yeah, Keith would be way out of bounds if he simply took it upon himself to start offering advice to Lagares, or to anyone for that matter. He did say something about making a point of talking to Hudgens about what the philosophy/mind-set is in that type of AB He's stated in the past that he's talked to guys about certain things, hitting wise. I specifically remember an instance with Pagan where Keith was pointing out something which flying out from the shoulder and that Pagan is aware because he was talking to him about it. That's probably slightly different than pitch selection, but not by much. The thing is, a lot of it's just guessing. And if you're guessing at pitches, sometimes you're going to be wrong. And Keith, often times, is still using the scouting report from his playing days at times. "2-1 count, runners on, he's gonna throw.._this_" and when he's right and the batter disagrees, well.. But Keith and Ron get that guessing game right a lot, ancedotally.

Edgy MD Aug 26 2013 10:17 AM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

Frayed Knot wrote: Gwreck wrote: I don't think TV commentary works that way. Yeah, Keith would be way out of bounds if he simply took it upon himself to start offering advice to Lagares, or to anyone for that matter. He did say something about making a point of talking to Hudgens about what the philosophy/mind-set is in that type of AB I did merely suggest the volunteering of services, which you suggest he's done.

Frayed Knot Aug 26 2013 10:24 AM Re: IGT 8/24/13 Det@Mets: Nobody's Watching; Nobody's Posti

Well, as of yesterday he had not talked to Hudgens, only that he wanted to do so at the next opportunity. (remember that this AB was from Saturday's game which he was not at) And there is a difference between finding out from Hudgens, for announcing/informational purposes, what the team's philosophy is in those cases and if that fed into Lagares's actions in that AB. That sort of volunteerism is both welcome and kosher. Going to the players directly to suggest and/or correct while bypassing the coaches, not so much.