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Watch long enough and you'll see something ...

Frayed Knot Aug 25 2013 07:10 PM

... you never saw before. Cubs at San Diego - scoreless tie thru 12. OK, that's unusual enough. - Cubs load the bases with no one out in top 13 so you figure the Pads are dead ... BUT - Nate Schierholz is up, bounces one to 1st and in doing so twists his ankle and falls, a pure god-send for the Pads as now it's a sure 3-2-3 DP ... BUT - as Schierholz gets up and is only ten feet down the line when the throw from 1st baseman hits him in the face ... the ball bounces away, all runners are safe, a run is in, the bases still loaded, and so they should be good for a couple more ... BUT - they only score once more (Sac Fly) so take a 2-0 lead into bottom 12 ... BUT - the Pads score once on a double then a two out triple (Ronnie Cedeno btw) which is followed by a wild pitch ... BUT - Cedeno hesitates at first before breaking and so is going to be out by 15 feet ... BUT - the pitcher dropped the flip from his catcher and thegame, instead of being over (Cubs win, Cubs win) is tied. Hit him right in the glove and he muffed it As I was typing this neither team scored in the 14th even though the Padres got the first two guys on in their half. On to the 15th ... Cubs have loaded the bases.

metsmarathon Aug 26 2013 09:48 AM Re: Watch long enough and you'll see something ...

technically, shouldn't schierholz be out? he was just inside the baseline when he was hit, and so, technically, was outside the baseline and should have been called out for intereference. unless i totally don't understand the interferenec rules and hte silliness of the first base base line.

Edgy MD Aug 26 2013 10:01 AM Re: Watch long enough and you'll see something ...

Interference on a batted ball is on the runner to avoid. Interference on a thrown ball is more the responsibility of the defense. Unless the ump believes the runner willfully interfered, he's within his rights to run until getting his face hit.. Plays I know have happened (or I'm pretty sure have happened) but I've never seen and kinda hope to someday see: [list][*]the two-base tagup. Perhaps a superfast guy tagging and scoring from second on a shot to deep center, perhaps with a lazy throw in. [/*:m] [*]The tagup on a foul back to the catcher. I've seen folks fail on this play three times, all in recent years. [/*:m] [*]Infield double, preferably on a bunt. This can happen one of two ways: the third baseman staring at a ball hoping for it to roll foul while the runner keeps running, or the rotation/wheel play being put on so aggressively that the middle infielder dashes for the corner base right past a ball hit to him and it keeps dribbling away. [/*:m] [*]Line drive bouncing off the glove a leaping infielder but maintaining enough momentum to turn into a flare caught by a shallow-playing outfielder rushing in, thus resulting in an infielder assist to an outfielder. [/*:m] [*]Two-man homerun robbery. Something akin to what the Mets pulled off two weeks ago, where a leaping outfielder reaches over the fence to bat the ball back in play, and the second outfielder catches it for the putout. [/*:m] [*]Any play where a desperate infielder gets the assist by kicking the ball to the base. [/*:m] [*]Stealing second, third, and home consecutively. It was believed that Ty Cobb held the record for this trick --- maybe a half dozen times or so --- but I think a later researcher declared Honus Wagner the all-time global-theft champ. I'd like to even see somebody steal for the cycle in a game, much less an inning. I tried this once in OotP, when the other team was forced, by injury, to put Kenny Lofton, of all people, at catcher. I had Carlos Beltran up with a lefty on the mound and I had him bunt his way to first. He stole second on the next pitch, and on the subsequent pitch stole third and scored as Lofton threw it into the outfield. Almost![/*:m][/list:u] Nate Schierholz getting a go-ahead RBI in the 13th with his face wasn't on the list but perhaps it should have been.

Frayed Knot Aug 26 2013 10:16 AM Re: Watch long enough and you'll see something ...

Considering that Schierholz had barely left the batters box at the time of the plunking, it would be pretty tough for an ump to call him for interfering either purposely or otherwise. He wasn't even looking up when the surprise delivery suddenly woke him out of his funk. btw, when I left this thread last night the Cubs had loaded the bases again in the 15th. They didn't score. Pads won it in the bottom of the inning.