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Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

d'Kong76 Aug 24 2013 06:55 PM

I thought there was a thread, couldn't find one. Geno not exactly inspiring this evening.

themetfairy Aug 24 2013 07:09 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

D-Dad is ready to start tailgating in a couple of weeks.

d'Kong76 Aug 24 2013 07:35 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Geno runs out of the end zone in the fourth ... doesn't look like the sharpest knife in the drawer tonight.

RealityChuck Aug 24 2013 08:01 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

As opposed to staying there and taking a safety?

d'Kong76 Aug 24 2013 08:26 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Pre-season overtime is just stupid ... it's a tie. Please.

MFS62 Aug 25 2013 06:26 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

It always feels good to beat that team. Later

Nymr83 Aug 25 2013 08:59 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Geno looked like a younger, blacker, thinner Sanchez. not good. Lets just forget it and play Matt Simms, that should help get Bridgewater on board next year.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 25 2013 10:00 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

So, that whole Sanchez-with-the-second-team, let's-end-preseason-on-a-good-note thing? That was smart. The fact that Ryan sent Sanchez into the game, with 11:21 remaining and the Giants leading, 15-14, suggested two things. One, that he still needed to see Sanchez perform at a certain level to convince him that he deserved to start the season opener against Tampa Bay on Sept. 8. And two, that he was so possessed by the mantra of competition that he and John Idzik, the first-year general manager, have preached, that he prioritized victory, and that he was best served playing his presumptive Week 1 starter behind a second-team offensive line. Why risk an injury to Sanchez by playing him, Ryan was asked. “Well, why compete period?” he said. “We’re there to win. We had our starting offense out there for three quarters because we’re trying to win the game.” Why weren’t the other first-stringers playing if you were trying to win the game, Ryan was asked. “It’s my decision, and we’re going to compete,” he said. “We said we’re going to compete and watch that competition.” ... There was a moment late in Ryan’s news conference, soon after a reporter asked him if it was irresponsible to leave in Sanchez, when he turned his back to the news media when pressed whether Smith could still win the job. The Snoopy trophy sat off to the side. “I can say anything I want,” Ryan said. “That’s the beauty of this country. I can answer it 100 times. I can stand backwards and answer the question.” OE: The Deadspin treatment, with GIFs.

Fman99 Aug 25 2013 08:31 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Rexy is making a statement here. That statement is, "I'm a big dumb fuck. Save me a spot on the soup line."

Vic Sage Aug 26 2013 08:53 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

i was a Rex fan for a long while, but he's beginning to sound unhinged. Maybe his wife isn't giving him enough shoe action.

RealityChuck Aug 26 2013 01:29 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Hey coach! Put me in!

Ashie62 Aug 26 2013 08:27 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Give Greg McElroy a shot...

Vic Sage Aug 28 2013 08:28 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

McElroy's ankle is sprained; give Graham Harrell a shot!

Vic Sage Aug 28 2013 08:39 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

and with Braylon and McKnight cut, Goodson suspended, and Santonio still hurt, who is catching the ball for this team? Kerley is our #1 receiver now, and he's a nice #3 slot receiver but a primary WR? and Stephen "I-got-talent-but-no-skill" Hill is our #2, our outside threat! With this group, it really doesn't matter who is throwing the ball, does it?

seawolf17 Aug 28 2013 08:47 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

The Jets suck; this is your chance, Browns, to claim Long Island (or at least the Stony Brook and Riverhead parts of Long Island) as a fan base. Make sure Miguel makes the team.

Vic Sage Aug 28 2013 08:49 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

there's a seawolf in Cleveland? Go Browns!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 28 2013 05:10 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Vic Sage wrote: McElroy's ankle is sprained; give Graham Harrell a shot! Most days, I wish they'd do the merciful thing and give them all a shot.

seawolf17 Aug 28 2013 06:24 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

there's a seawolf in Cleveland? Go Browns! And one in Philly too, but Mike Bamiro is a defensive lineman and you can't have him on your fantasy team. But I used my last pick this weekend on Maysonet. JUST IN CASE. He's in Madden, too:

Vic Sage Aug 29 2013 07:54 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

5'9"? he better be freakin' quick and made of adamantium.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 29 2013 04:16 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Or rubber. Rubber would work.

Vic Sage Aug 29 2013 08:55 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

looks like we finally found a QB, and wouldn't you know it's a "Simms".

RealityChuck Aug 31 2013 05:56 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Looks like a perfect QB candidate is suddenly available. Knows the playbook and had God on his side.

Nymr83 Aug 31 2013 11:05 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

RealityChuck wrote: Looks like a perfect QB candidate is suddenly available. Knows the playbook and had God on his side. pleaase please bring him back, this team is going to suck like a prostitute on her knees in a cheap motel, at least the Tebow-circus will keep it intersting

MFS62 Sep 01 2013 09:26 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

As they used to say in the old war movies, he landed here on a wing and a prayer. When he got here, we realized he didn't have a wing. A quarterback needs one. No thanks. Later

d'Kong76 Sep 01 2013 09:43 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

I'm your QB, and I'm gonna surprise the crap out of everyone.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 01 2013 12:36 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Oh, I'm sure the interceptions, inaccuracy and general poor decision making will produce some emotion in me; I'm just not certain that emotion will be surprise.

d'Kong76 Sep 04 2013 11:33 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

It's official, Smith is finally the named starter. Kevin Burkhardt is doing the game on FOX. Congratulations to Kevin on making it to the bigs.

MFS62 Sep 04 2013 05:13 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Don't know if anyone caught this in the early edition of today's NY Daily News (Don't know if it made the later editions). There was a short article about Patriots' owner Bob Kraft. He said he really liked Tim Tebow. But, obviously, he didn't let that get in the way of the decision by his coaches to evaluate Tim as a football player. Hear that, Woody? Start learning from an owner who has won several Super Bowls. Leave the football stuff to your football guys!!!! Later

Vic Sage Sep 05 2013 08:50 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Amen to that. And: Oh, I'm sure the interceptions, inaccuracy and general poor decision making will produce some emotion in me; I'm just not certain that emotion will be surprise. Especially considering he has no one to either catch the ball or run with it, he's going to be asked to do more than he's ready for (if he ever is). I do think the OLine will be better this year and able to give him some time to make those bad decisions. And despite the extra time, i expect to seem him running for his life early and often. I also expect to see Matt Simms in the last quarter of the Pats game. And Brady Quinn? Really? The QB FA with a worse QB rating than Sanchez? So far, Idzik's FA signings have been utterly useless, and the season hasn't even started yet.

Vic Sage Sep 05 2013 08:56 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

oh, and i just found this article: http://www.stack.com/2013/03/01/nfl-combine-misses/ "How Vernon Gholston fooled the Jets", Jordan Zirm: "After plowing through quarterbacks as a defensive lineman for Ohio State, Gholston put his freakish athletic talents on display during the 2008 NFL Combine. He ran an insanely fast 4.56 40 and pumped out 37 reps during the 225- pound Bench Press, tying a Combine record. Scouts raved about his ability, and NFL.com called him a ”remarkable talent.” Telling the difference between a guy who can perform at a high level in the weight room and one who can translate those skills onto the field can be tricky, but hey, that’s what NFL scouts get paid to do, and the New York Jets swung and missed. After getting chosen with the sixth overall pick in the 2008 NFL Draft, Gholston played three underwhelming seasons before being released in 2010. He hasn’t seen the field since."

Ashie62 Sep 08 2013 01:42 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

This game is a thing of beauty. TB had to take two timeouts in a row cause Freemans helmet didn't work... Geno looks ok but it is apparent there are not many tools for him to work with. Revis looks wholly healed..

d'Kong76 Sep 08 2013 02:02 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

If your idea of beauty is fugly, yeah ... hope they hold on.

d'Kong76 Sep 08 2013 02:06 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Side note: I think Kevin B did well and deserves a solid B -- which is saying something on your first NFL B-cast.

Ashie62 Sep 08 2013 02:22 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Holy Shit [bigpurple:qe6km1tl]GENO![/bigpurple:qe6km1tl]

Ashie62 Sep 08 2013 02:23 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Kong76 wrote: Side note: I think Kevin B did well and deserves a solid B -- which is saying something on your first NFL B-cast. Kevin B is swinging with the big boys..and well...

d'Kong76 Sep 08 2013 02:25 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Crazy-ass game ... better than starting 0-2, I guess. Yes, I've penciled in a loss on Thurs night already.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 08 2013 03:42 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

I though Geno looked pretty good, in that he wasn't a total fuckup like Sanchez.

d'Kong76 Sep 08 2013 07:45 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Pretty nice game, for a rook thrown into the fire.

Nymr83 Sep 08 2013 10:15 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I though Geno looked pretty good, in that he wasn't a total fuckup like Sanchez. his Un-Sanchez-ness was a pretty huge positive.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 09 2013 08:14 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 09 2013 12:46 PM

Oh, there was a good amount of Sanchezness on display... just in slightly-lower proportion than in its namesake. Smith was okay, only intermittently horrible. But the horrible plays led to 14 points*. This team's defense is better than we probably had a right to expect... but-- at least sans Coples-- it's not good enough to cover the squad's offensive deficiencies. *To a terrible team, apparently... that handed the Jets this game, make no mistake

Vic Sage Sep 09 2013 10:04 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

"Remember Browning Nagle’s first game? (He had 366 yards, two touchdowns and a 108.6 rating then never passed for more than 200 yards in the rest of his career)" While i'm happy we won, i think it was more a matter of TB being slightly better at sucking than the Jets were. It was nice to see Smith make some positive running plays, but watching him run backward 20 yards on a sack (rather than either throwing it away or just going down) was painful, and the lack of field awareness when he fumbled on the Jet 5 (unaware that he was being swarmed), ending up with a 2TO:1TD ratio, makes all the huzzahs a bit premature. I think all that can be said is that he has a decent arm, runs OK, and Josh Freeman, the Sanchez of Florida, played worse than him. And that if that stupid TB player doesn't hit Smith out-of-bounds, we're doing a post-mortem on a Jets loss, wringing our hands over Smith's lack of football IQ, and wondering when we'll see Simms. now we play the Pats on a short week. Oy. Give the points.

d'Kong76 Sep 09 2013 10:14 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Browning Nagle ... ouch

themetfairy Sep 09 2013 10:16 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

On top of everything else, D-Dad's group was chosen as the Tailgate Party of the Game. Thanks to the Jets for sending us this photo -

d'Kong76 Sep 09 2013 10:29 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Cool!!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 09 2013 12:47 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

For the honor, did D-Dad have to... um... show them?

themetfairy Sep 09 2013 01:21 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

No - I think that the frozen drink machine and the copious amounts of food were enough to seal the deal ;)

Ashie62 Sep 09 2013 01:33 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Kong76 wrote: Browning Nagle ... ouch Browning Nagle...Dear God...

Ashie62 Sep 09 2013 01:34 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

themetfairy wrote: On top of everything else, D-Dad's group was chosen as the Tailgate Party of the Game. Thanks to the Jets for sending us this photo - Awesome! Were you harboring Fireman Ed?

themetfairy Sep 09 2013 02:11 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

I wasn't there, but to my knowledge he wasn't one of the partygoers.

RealityChuck Sep 12 2013 07:23 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Not that it really would have made a difference: Sources: Surgery likely for Sanchez Dr. James Andrews confirmed Wednesday that Mark Sanchez has a labral tear in his right shoulder, and the New York Jets quarterback is "likely to have surgery" that would end his 2013 season, according to team and league sources, as well as a source close to Sanchez. Sanchez still was trying to make a final decision on whether to have the surgery now to repair the tear and instability in the shoulder following his injury in the team's third preseason game, the sources said.

Ashie62 Sep 12 2013 06:03 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Not so fast on surgery say Sancho... I'm calling four picks and two fumbles for Geno tonight..

Frayed Knot Sep 12 2013 07:42 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 13 2013 06:26 AM

I think surgery for Sanchez to remove that headband he's been wearing and return it to the middle school girl he took it from should be both mandatory and immediate.

d'Kong76 Sep 12 2013 07:47 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Slightly under-thrown pass bounces off of Gates' chest and announcer goes on and on about it being under thrown. Catch the ball and shush.

d'Kong76 Sep 12 2013 09:19 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

The color guy on tonight's broadcast is having a really hard time masking that he's pretty gay for the Patsies.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 12 2013 10:00 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

I counted ten drops, all by my lonesome. I hope Clyde Gates is an excellent punt-team gunner, team-flight conversationalist, or locker-room iPod DJ, because he's not fantastic at the catching-the-ball thing. But yeah, I'm loving Wilkerson and Richardson, and a number of the others. The defense plays hard and smart, and though I think he certainly has learning to do, I'm all-in on Geno.

Mets – Willets Point Sep 13 2013 07:44 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Judging by all the negative commentary of the Patriots' fans on my Facebook feed, the Patriots must've won by fewer than three touchdowns.

d'Kong76 Sep 13 2013 08:13 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

No chirping from my NE facebook contingent ... I think they know they got away with one last night ... barely.

Vic Sage Sep 13 2013 08:29 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 13 2013 01:05 PM

I'm not getting the free pass and excuse-making for Geno. Sure, he's a rookie and these kind of games happen, and he has no receivers to throw to, and it was raining in the 2nd half. But Smith's team not only had a stout defense, it had a running game last night, allowing Jets to dominate time of possession and yardage stats, and they were within a FG going into the 4th... a quarter during which Geno threw 3 INTs and the game away. His QB rating was 27. let me say that again... 27. No TDs, no rushing yards, 4 sacks and 3 INTs. Sure, you can point fingers at the WRs, but the guys catching the ball were only half the problem; the rest was the guy throwing the ball. Smith held the ball too long (leading to sacks, INTs and hard-to-catch balls) and never took advantage of his running ability. He looked tentative and in over his head... again. And once again the game was won by the team that sucked less at the end. Yeah, he may develop into a good NFL QB one day, but he sure ain't one yet.

d'Kong76 Sep 13 2013 08:51 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Hopefully he'll learn some stuff from this game ... he's pretty green. Hah. I give him a C-.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 13 2013 10:50 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14 Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Sep 13 2013 11:39 AM

The Holmes pick killed. But he threw something like 8 passes that were in the red zone (at least 2-- Gates in the end zone, Winslow at the 3-- on scoring plays) that were dropped or mishandled, and two of the picks (AND the fumble) came on balls that were handed over by his receivers to waiting defenders on catchable balls (including the Holmes pick). He isn't good yet, but he's not bad. He made mistakes (on a short week, on the road, in his second career start), but for the most part they weren't killers, and they mostly seemed the correctable kind. I'll say it again: he did less to lose this game than his receivers did.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 13 2013 11:00 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

I'd agree.

Fman99 Sep 13 2013 07:58 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

I was happy that it was a competitive game and I stayed up till the end. Geno seemed poised. I was not happy with the second half performance but he still impressed me with potential.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 22 2013 05:58 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Jets may still suck but what does it say for the rest of this league? Bills are terrible.

d'Kong76 Sep 22 2013 06:27 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Divisional win is always good. The twenty something flags was ugly. Glad the two stupid red ones Rex threw burning time outs didn't come back to bite him in the ass. Gomer, what did you think of Geno's day? [youtube:fd8h4bw7]J6_1Pw1xm9U[/youtube:fd8h4bw7]

Ashie62 Sep 22 2013 06:49 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

2-1 is good...

metirish Sep 22 2013 06:57 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Jets may still suck but what does it say for the rest of this league? Bills are terrible. I have watched some awful games so far.....Eagles and Chiefs the other night was just horrible to watch......NFL games can really suck.

Fman99 Sep 22 2013 07:52 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

The three different offsides/encroachment penalties in about a five play span really made me scratch my head. Having said that, Geno throws a better deep ball than Sanchez ever did. Beats being a Giants fan, anyway.

themetfairy Sep 22 2013 08:15 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Geno had his moments today - I kept calling him Pizza Man and telling him to deliver. Maybe one day he'll get to endorse this -

RealityChuck Sep 22 2013 08:51 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Watching him throw those touchdowns made me flash back to the old AFL days with Namath to Maynard. I don't think the Jets have had that sort of successful long bomb threat since then.

metirish Sep 23 2013 06:28 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

RealityChuck wrote: Watching him throw those touchdowns made me flash back to the old AFL days with Namath to Maynard. I don't think the Jets have had that sort of successful long bomb threat since then. WOW, high praise , future looks bright for the Jets?

Frayed Knot Sep 23 2013 06:36 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

metirish wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Jets may still suck but what does it say for the rest of this league? Bills are terrible. I have watched some awful games so far.....Eagles and Chiefs the other night was just horrible to watch......NFL games can really suck. Suck?!? ... Don't you know that all NFL games are great? I know this is true because the media tells me so constantly.

MFS62 Sep 23 2013 06:39 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

RealityChuck wrote: Watching him throw those touchdowns made me flash back to the old AFL days with Namath to Maynard. I don't think the Jets have had that sort of successful long bomb threat since then. I heard it was their first 300 yard passing performance from a rookie QB since Joe Willie. Can't believe Chad Pennington or Richard Todd didn't do it. Namath to Maynard. I remember it well. (Cue Barbra Streisand singing Memories) Later

Vic Sage Sep 23 2013 09:31 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Good: * Powell ran for over 100 yds, extending a lot of drives (this took the pressure off Smith) * Geno ran for 1st Q TD, then made some big plays -- to Hill for 51yd TD in the 2ndQ, then to Holmes for the game winning 69yd TD in the 4th with the score tied; also made intermediate throws to Kerley and Cumberland for 18yds each (keeping Buff D back on their heels), ending up with solid QBR of 90; * O-Line gave up no sacks, allowed for a productive running game, ball control offense (10+min time of possession differential) and enough protection for big pass plays (200 yds more total offense); * Jet D - 8 sacks, coming from everywhere (DL - Wilkerson 2, Richardson 1; LB - Harris, Davis and Pace 1 each; Safety - Landry, Allen 1 each); gave up only 1 big pass play (Chandler 32yd Td); and limited 2 Smith INTs to Buffalo FGs Bad: * 2 more Smith INTs (now has 6 INTs to 3 TDs); * continuing MIA status of Chris Ivory; * Receivers don't make catches more than they do; * Tired D giving up big play and a 2-pt conversion to tie game in 4th Q; * Rex's Red flag management -- i wanted to fire him on the spot for wasting those challenges (why did the broadcasters see these plays better than our upstairs coaches?); luckily, it didn't matter in the end; * Special Teams -- remember when Jets special teams were...special? Ugly: * 20 PENALTIES FOR 168 YDS! This was close to a franchise and league record. We didn't deserve to win, but happily Buffalo sucks worse than us, so once again we win because we sucked less. That's a dangerous game to play.

Fman99 Sep 23 2013 10:27 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Rex is terrible with the challenges, I would agree. To clarify, if I heard this right on last night's broadcast, Geno set a Jets rookie record for passing yards, besting a 287-yard effort from Joe's 1965 season.

RealityChuck Sep 23 2013 01:44 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

MFS62 wrote: RealityChuck wrote: Watching him throw those touchdowns made me flash back to the old AFL days with Namath to Maynard. I don't think the Jets have had that sort of successful long bomb threat since then. I heard it was their first 300 yard passing performance from a rookie QB since Joe Willie. Can't believe Chad Pennington or Richard Todd didn't do it. Namath to Maynard. I remember it well. (Cue Barbra Streisand singing Memories) Todd only played in six games as a rookie; he did hit 396 yards in a game the next year, but that was the only time he went over 300 that season. Pennington didn't start as a rookie, either. Sanchez never came close to 300 as a rookie. But it looks like Ken O'Brien hit 351 against Phil Simms's Giants as a rookie. But the Jets lost.

d'Kong76 Sep 23 2013 05:45 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

MFS62 wrote: (Cue Barbra Streisand singing Memories) Later Uh, please don't.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 23 2013 09:01 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Bad: * continuing MIA status of Chris Ivory Hamstring injury in the first quarter. That front seven of ours... god damn, that's fine stuff. And the safeties are damn impressive, too. Put a semi-functional Revis on here, and this defense is more promising-- and maybe better already-- than the ones that carried this team to back-to-back AFC championships. If there were, say, mild improvement in both special teams and Geno's turnovers, this team could sneak into a wild card in this weak-sauce conference.

Nymr83 Sep 30 2013 05:07 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

A positively Sanchez-like outing from Geno yesterday and the O-line played like that of the 0-4 Giants. Defense got stuck defending a short field way too often and let up the points even if they weren't getting killed on yards. Walls sucks. Need to just put this game behind you and move on.

d'Kong76 Sep 30 2013 08:27 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

The fumble on the goal line (Geno trying to switch hands behind his back while getting hit) rivals the infamous butt fumble by Sanchez last year in stupidity.

Fman99 Sep 30 2013 09:05 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Both starting WRs not able to finish the game and up in the air for next week in terms of availability. Not good.

Vic Sage Oct 02 2013 11:57 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

yeah, i'm still not getting the Geno love. God, that was an ugly game against a not-so-great team. And having to go into Atlanta's dome on a Monday night is not making me feel real good about the next game either. It's giving off a "little big horn" vibe.

Vic Sage Oct 04 2013 10:33 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

When the Jets traded up to pick Mark Sanchez near the top of the draft, i was irritated. Not because i thought Sanchez would be a bust (the analysts universally praised his pro potential), but because i thought they'd be able to keep the traded picks and take Josh Freeman later in the 1st, who i viewed as at least comparable (with more QB experience and better physical tools than Sanchez). And, indeed, they could've, with Freeman taken after their original 1st round draft slot. Now that both QBs have had similarly disappointing careers (and are both out of the league at this point), the Jets can make up the error by signing the just-released Freeman to be Geno's backup. He certainly would give us more options than the useless Brady Quinn, for chrissakes.

Vic Sage Oct 07 2013 01:43 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Too late; Freeman goes to Minny, which is a playoff-worthy team in search of a QB. It's a good situation for him, i think. Meanwhile, the J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS! are getting ready for their annihilation tonight in the Georgia Dome. Spread is 10 and counting. Let's see..., the Jets are on the road, going against a good team (with an all-pro QB) that's pissed about their under-performance this year, and they're playing on Monday night (where home teams win disproportionately), with the Jets coming off another shitty performance, and with no WRs. Um, I'd give the points. I'd give up more points, in fact. If i were a betting man.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 07 2013 01:55 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

I'll take the J-E-T-S and the points for a beer with ya, just to make it interesting.

Vic Sage Oct 07 2013 02:24 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I'll take the J-E-T-S and the points for a beer with ya, just to make it interesting. i never actually bet against my own teams; i can complain about them, but i'd never put myself in a position where i'm hoping they lose. It was more a theoretical proposition.

d'Kong76 Oct 07 2013 03:55 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

I'll buy you both a beer if the Jets don't lose by less than ten points.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 07 2013 05:47 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

So... you're guaranteeing they lose close? What happens if they win?

d'Kong76 Oct 07 2013 05:54 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Hell ... if they win I'll buy you, Lunchy, and Vic a beer!

metirish Oct 07 2013 07:34 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Sometimes you tune in with no expectations and are surprised.....tonight so far is one of those....early doors yet of course. Geeze, you think the color guy(Gruden?) likes Marty Morningwig????

Fman99 Oct 07 2013 07:37 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

So far so good for the guys in green. I love Tirico and Gruden -- Tirico is solid on play by play and Jon Gruden is full of insight.

metirish Oct 07 2013 07:42 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

I've often been flipping channels and happened upon "Grunden's QB Camp" and find myself watching the whole show, I might have no idea who he is talking to but I still watch. He's a teacher.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 07 2013 08:48 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Getting thirsty.

Fman99 Oct 07 2013 08:53 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

That is some tip toe catch on the sidelines by Winslow there! 27-14 good guys. And in all the Mark Sanchez era I don't ever remember feeling as confident in his accuracy as I do with Geno. I'm all in.

d'Kong76 Oct 07 2013 08:54 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Getting giddy.

Frayed Knot Oct 07 2013 09:03 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

I love Tirico and Gruden -- Tirico is solid on play by play and Jon Gruden is full of insight. I don't often watch MNF so maybe I'm not the best judge. I agree that Tirico is solid but my problem with Gruden is the same as I have with just about every football color man: he screams a lot. AND JUST WATCH HOW THE LEFT GUARD KICKS THE LINEBACKER IN THE GROIN SO THAT THE RUNNING BACK CAN CUT BACK ON HIS LEFT PINKY WHILE THE TIGHT END ... and I'm thinking to myself; Dude, it's a two yard gain in the first quarter of week three, calm the fuck down.

d'Kong76 Oct 07 2013 09:06 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

My giddiness has waned.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 07 2013 09:32 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Let the giddiness out.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 07 2013 09:48 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Well, fuck me gently with a swim-move.

Frayed Knot Oct 08 2013 06:44 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Bad night to be an Atlanta sports fan -- but, really, aren't most nights that way?

MFS62 Oct 08 2013 08:00 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Oh, ye of little faith. Sooner or later, the football "experts" in the media are going to have to stop humming their mantra that says "The NFC is FAAARRR superior to the AFC." They say it. And they're wrong. Who have those top NFC teams lost to? AFC teams. As Casey Stengel used to say, "You could look it up". Fuck those pompous bastages. This one was for you, Lee Grosscup. I'll climb down off my soapbox now. End of rant. Later

TransMonk Oct 08 2013 09:06 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Sooner or later, folks have to stop paying attention to the football "experts" in the media. They are paid to be contrary, not correct. The proof is in the games...and thus far the AFC looks much better than the NFC.

Frayed Knot Oct 08 2013 10:09 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

MFS62 wrote: Sooner or later, the football "experts" in the media are going to have to stop humming their mantra that says "The NFC is FAAARRR superior to the AFC." They say it. And they're wrong. You're fighting a war that, for the most part, was going on at roughly the same time as the one in Vietnam.

Vic Sage Oct 08 2013 11:01 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Soooooo happy to be wrong about this one! KC, save your money; i'll happily buy you the beer, and Jon, next time i see either of you. With both Goodson and Ivory finally joining Powell n the backfield, the Jets were able to establish the run right off the bat (avg 5.4 yds/rush), keeping the defense honest and giving Geno some room to operate. Then, the Jets got to play from ahead, allowing Geno to continue running a balanced attack (22 rushes/ 20 passes). Geno got further support from the O-line, which was pretty solid overall despite a few sacks, and from his receivers, who had no drops and made good yards after the catch. Hill actually played (i thought he'd be out) and made a few key grabs in the final drive. The Jets also got solid special teams play (for a change), won the turnover battle (1-0), and committed many fewer penalties. But perhaps most importantly, Geno was playing against the Falcons' shitty, injured defense (ranked near the bottom of the league)... which, you know, helps. But with all that, Geno made no big mistakes, took care of the ball, ran well when he needed to, and was deadly accurate with a short and mid-range passing attackn (i.e., the west coast offense). And when his team was behind with less than 2 minutes to go, he calmly and efficiently burned off the clock while getting them into decent field goal range. And this isn't the first time this season that he's played big in the 4th Q, driving them down field for a win. So good on you, Mr. Smith. Now, just perform this well and play this smart and under control when everything isn't breaking your way, as it did last night, and you'll really show me something -- something more than Sanchez ever did anyway -- and i'll happily jump on your bandwagon. Next up, the Jets welcome the winless Steelers to Metlife stadium. G-E-N-O GENO GENO GENO!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 08 2013 11:04 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Welcome to the light, friend. Good LORD, do I love our defensive front seven.

Vic Sage Oct 08 2013 11:16 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Me too, but just imagine what the D would look like if they didn't give Revis away. It would be a Buddy Ryan Bears/Rex Ryan Ravens-type D, that's what it would look like.

MFS62 Oct 08 2013 09:53 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Frayed Knot wrote: You're fighting a war that, for the most part, was going on at roughly the same time as the one in Vietnam. Please. I don't need another Vietnam flashback. Later

Vic Sage Oct 18 2013 09:23 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Miguel Maysonet was signed to the Jets' practice squad on Tuesday. The Jets are the fifth team for whom Maysonet has "played," though he has yet to make an active roster. Maysonet, an undrafted free agent out of Stony Brook -- an FCS school on Long Island -- signed with the Eagles in May but was cut two weeks later. He spent camp with the Browns and was among their final cuts before spending time on the practice squads of the Colts and Chargers. Maysonet rushed for more than 1,900 yards as a senior last year at Stony Brook. go seawolves!

Ashie62 Oct 20 2013 01:59 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Jets up on Pats 27-24, 2 minutes left and Brady has the ball...

MFS62 Oct 20 2013 03:22 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Take THAT, pretty boy Brady. We have our own Folk hero. Later

d'Kong76 Oct 20 2013 03:38 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Saved by the:

RealityChuck Oct 20 2013 07:20 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Second time this season.

Vic Sage Oct 20 2013 09:06 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

i didn't even know that was a rule.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 20 2013 09:14 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 20 2013 09:33 PM

New rule, apparently, requested by the Players' Association in CBA negotiations this offseason. Those poor Patriots. Can't they ever catch a break in the endgame from the refs?

Nymr83 Oct 20 2013 09:17 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Vic Sage wrote: i didn't even know that was a rule. Jets got called for a similar head-scratcher earlier this year, having too many guys lined up in the middle of the formation against a FG or punt or some such nonsense. the league is determined to ban any play other than a forward pass which is then "defended" by making a safe (but entirely terrible) tackle using only your arms and only around the runner's waist.

MFS62 Oct 21 2013 08:27 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Saved by the: Seems like 20 years ago when the Cowboys would station some of their taller players who had been basketball players in College under the goal posts. They were to jump up to block field goal attempts that were going to barely make it over the crossbar. So the NFL made a rule that said you could not have a player more than 15 yards behind the line of scrimmage jump up to block a field goal. In a game later that year, another team was attempting a field goal against the Jets. One of the players who was playing safety to guard against a fake, jumped up and down to distract the kicker. The kick missed. But the refs threw the flag, cited this rule, gave the other team another kick, and they made the game winning field goal. Whether or not the player was more than 15 yards behind the line of scrimmage was unclear from the replays, but the intent was not to block the kick. It was to distract the kicker. I later discussed this with then- Jets announcer Charley Steiner, and he said this was not only wrong but it was the only time the rule was ever invoked. As Rex said yesterday, it was about time one of those "went in our favor". When he said that, I remembered that other call. Later

Nymr83 Oct 21 2013 06:48 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

the zebras decide dozens of games every year you just need to play well enough that the game isnt close and then you don't need to worry about them otherwise that's football

MFS62 Nov 03 2013 02:51 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

This just in. ESPN just raised the Jets to # 31. Hmmm. Maybe they're right. After all, they only beat an NFC team. Later

d'Kong76 Nov 03 2013 04:26 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

I hope the "roughing the passer call" late in the game gets some national attention. The pussification of the game must stop ... it's ridiculous. Ray Lucas on SNY post-game suggests the QB's just put on tutus already. Oh, and nice unexpected win!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 03 2013 06:05 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Ray Lucas says a lot of things. Specifically, Ray Lucas says a lot of things about the mistakes people-- officials, quarterbacks, coaches-- make on a football field. He says them rather forcefully for someone who was as prone to make such errors as Ray Lucas was. Ray Lucas says a lot of things aggressively. Ray Lucas says things in such a way that hints at a person who uses different, less-refined, more-gay-bait-y language when he says things off-camera. Ray Lucas says a lot of things, and you might not want to use Ray Lucas' opinion to buttress points, if you want said points to be taken seriously by reasonable people. Besides, I don't think that particular call was representative of a 'poor rule' issue as much as it was of a 'awful call' issue. On another note... it bears noting that the Jets-- these Geno-Smith-led, Revisless, wide-receiver-less, injury-riddled Jets-- are actually in playoff position at this point. [Oh, and that they lost another starting skill-position player (Kerley).]

d'Kong76 Nov 03 2013 06:54 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Never really thought about Ray in such detail. Wasn't using him to 'butt'ress anything. Jeez.

Fman99 Nov 03 2013 07:03 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

They get all kinds of points for watchability that they couldn't buy in 2012. So far, so good.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 14 2013 10:06 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Ed Reed? Ed Reed.

metirish Nov 15 2013 05:40 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Shocked to see Reed is only 35.....looks easily ten years older, plays at least twenty years older.....

Ashie62 Nov 17 2013 01:41 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Well, none of the Jets seem to be playing much today. Prosperity was starting to look them in the eye.

MFS62 Nov 17 2013 02:46 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

I think when Smith took that hit it knocked the wind out of the entire team. Later

d'Kong76 Nov 18 2013 11:46 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

I just called Dave and Busters in Hanover, MD. They would not confirm or deny that the Jets have Saturday reservations for 60.

Lefty Specialist Nov 20 2013 06:56 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Well, THIS week, I want them to expand on their record of winlosewinlosewinlosewinlosewinlose.

Nymr83 Nov 20 2013 08:38 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

If the Jets continue to alternate wins and losses on their way to 8-8 they could upset the (slim) playoff hopes of the Ravens, Raiders, and Browns along the way while losing a less meaningful (for any tiebreakers) NFC game to the Panthers. Unfortunately, 2 losses to Miami would almost certainly sink the Jets.

d'Kong76 Nov 24 2013 02:07 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

. All my teams suck [bigpurple:2qbzuy4l]bhpmc[/bigpurple:2qbzuy4l] !!

metirish Nov 24 2013 02:18 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

What a boring game . Dan Deirdoff is a fucking dinosaur, Jets suck but you might not realize that listening to him.

d'Kong76 Dec 07 2013 07:07 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

What's the over/under on number of silver-and-black fans in the seats tomorrow? 20, 30, 40%?

Ashie62 Dec 08 2013 04:35 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

5,000 Raider zanies or so.. Give him time but Geno Smith is going to be a beast in either drop back or read...

Nymr83 Dec 09 2013 11:06 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

The jets prolong th e agony for another week, but com3back wins for baltimore and miam8 put a real damper on our chanves. A loss to Carolina should seal it next week

Vic Sage Dec 09 2013 11:09 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

There is only agony where there is hope. I had an expectation of only 5-6 wins this season, and I still think their upside is no more than 7, so I am experiencing no agony whatsoever... besides, of course, the agony of watching Geno play.

Nymr83 Dec 09 2013 11:28 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Those were my initial expectations as well, but at 5-4 coming off the Saints win with the seemingly easier part of the schedule ahead, expectations went up. They have since crashed again, thanks largely to Geno

Vic Sage Dec 09 2013 11:31 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Those were my initial expectations as well, but at 5-4 coming off the Saints win with the seemingly easier part of the schedule ahead, expectations went up. You have no one to blame but yourself on that score. You should know by now that the Jets will always break your heart if you are foolish enough to give it to them.

Ashie62 Dec 09 2013 05:31 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Cmon...Geno is the next Richard Todd...

Nymr83 Dec 15 2013 04:41 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Jets were playing a tight game, but then a blocked punt leads to a TD an Geno throws his trademark pick6 and the season is over

d'Kong76 Dec 15 2013 05:03 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Another year, another suck ...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 15 2013 07:10 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

A tough road loss against a dark-horse Super Bowl contender? Hell, this was a better performance than half of the Jet wins this season.

d'Kong76 Dec 15 2013 07:18 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Nice sentiment, but when you can smell an unexpected 7-7 only for the air to be let out the big green balloon again I think it's fair to have a feeling of destined suck. Mileage may vary.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 15 2013 08:58 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

I can't say I ever smelled a win here. You're like the punching-bag half of the codependent relationship, Kase-- they only hurt you if you let them hurt you. It's been a full year, and I still have no idea what to make of Geno.

metirish Dec 15 2013 09:03 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

why is it so hard to find a great quarterbacks?

Nymr83 Dec 15 2013 09:14 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

metirish wrote: why is it so hard to find a great quarterbacks? if it was easy to find good QBs (like, say, kickers or middle linebackers), nobody would be looking and instead we'd be hearing "why is it so hard to find great corners, we cant cover anything!"

Frayed Knot Dec 16 2013 06:29 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

metirish wrote: why is it so hard to find a great quarterbacks? I'm not sure it's any harder to find a great one now but, in this offense-happy era of pro football, the teams who don't have one today are at more of a disadvantage than they ever were. The days of being a serious contender with just a so-so QB combined with a dominating defense are pretty much over. Just as an example, five losing teams scored 30 or more points this weekend. btw, how 'bout those NY-area winter teams this year? Jets + Giants + Knicks + Nets + Rangers + Devils + Islanders = 64 - 112 ... with not one of them at .500 or better

Vic Sage Dec 16 2013 08:26 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

"Greatness" is always hard to find in any era... that's pretty much the definition. If everyone was "great", then nobody would be. But the definition of "greatness" can evolve over time. Joe Namath was great in the 1960s (and good in the early 70s), and was an icon of my childhood. Today, his lack of mobility would be more of a problem, where defenses are so fast and built almost entirely around "get to the quarterback" strategies. And his 50% completion rate, and tendency to throw more INTs than TDs (even in his best seasons), would give the opposing offense so many opportunities he would lose his job under the current standards. In fact, Sanchez's career numbers were better and he's been run out of town on a rail, These days, you need to have at least a 60% completion rate, and if you don't throw at least 2:1 TD/INT ratio, you're not a successful QB. So "greatness" in an NFL QB requires a greater range of talents than it once did. Also, with advances in sports training, health and fitness (and the general evolutionary trend toward a bigger, stronger species), as well as the explosion of money in the game, there is greater ability and motivation than ever to populate the game (almost exclusively) with the freakishly athletic among us. You used to see "big fatties" on the lines, with TEs that blocked, Fullbacks without much speed, and QBs that only had to stand in the pocket and throw. Now those big fatties, TEs and QBs run a 4.5-5.0/40, and fullbacks are virtually extinct. It's only the kickers who can still get away with a normal physique and range of athleticism. QBs must be as super as those chasing them to survive, but must also have the intellectual ability to understand and read the game at every moment while running for their lives. That makes them special and hard to find. It always has. And the rule changes favoring offense have made the QB the key to winning today, so teams are more reliant than ever on having a "great" one in order to win at the highest levels. But "greatness" is still as rare as ever, and QB injuries more devastating for the team, leaving alot of have-nots scattered across the NFL, including the meadowlands.. and that includes Eli,too, this season (whose 69.7 QB rating would be among Namath's better seasons).

metirish Dec 16 2013 08:49 AM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Thanks for the replies , they were great. Thanks for the historical perspective Vic. a

Nymr83 Dec 22 2013 02:42 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Jets looked alright today getting to 7 wins, showed a lot of things you like to see- big defensive stops, 3rd down conversions, Geno with better timing throwing to a couple of guys before they even broke out of their routes (he knew where they'd be for once!), Ivory running well, a long clock-grinding touchdown drive to ice the game, and Dee Milliner defending passes instead of getting picked on up and down the field! What didn't look good: Santonio Holmes. as if the pass-dropping wasnt enough, he sounded like me-first loser in the postgame saying "no comment" on will Ryan be back and "he was ok" when asked about Geno before deflecting Geno's credit on the entire team. I'd cut him already, he sounds like a clubhouse cancer and he hasnt done shit on the field in a long time.

Ashie62 Dec 22 2013 04:54 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Rex Ryan is a good football coach soon to be fired...

Fman99 Dec 22 2013 07:52 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Watched this game in its entirety, as a trip to the inlaws for Xmas partying and a Bills blackout precluded my normal nap/Red Zone watching. Lots to enjoy today.

MFS62 Dec 29 2013 03:08 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Nice final game for Geno and the Jets. Rex keeps his job, and it's always nice to knock the Dolphins out of a playoff spot. Fake kneel on THIS, Marino! Later

Nymr83 Dec 29 2013 04:33 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Ashie62 wrote: Rex Ryan is a good football coach soon to be fired... Woody says otherwise. Ryan will remain! I love ending Miami's season, fuck them.

d'Kong76 Dec 29 2013 04:47 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

I'd be mildly shocked if Rex was canned.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 29 2013 07:00 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

And on their field, too, in front of these fair-weather fans. LOVED this.

d'Kong76 Dec 29 2013 07:12 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

I was surprised at the number of empty seats.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 29 2013 07:28 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

I'm rarely surprised at the number of empty seats in Miami.

Frayed Knot Dec 29 2013 07:56 PM Re: Jets Still Suck 2013, Won't See '14

Yeah, but for a NYJ game the empties are usually scarfed up by either transplant New Yorkers or (especially around XMas/New Years week) vacationing New Yorkers.