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Turner Field Power Usage

G-Fafif Sep 03 2013 01:29 PM

The Mets lineup on Labor Day 2013 totaled 73 major league home runs in its collective career. Young 7 Murphy 36 Satin 2 Brown 10 Lagares 4 Turner 6 Flores 1 Recker 7 Matsuzaka 0 Have no idea where this stands in Met acoustic annals, but it has to be down there. Taking a stab at precedent, I went to everybody's favorite power-free year, 1980, and the same date, which included two kids fresh off the farm (HR totals to date, entering 9/2/1980). Wilson 0 Taveras 2 Mazzilli 53 Washington 56 Henderson 34 Maddox 18 Treviņo 0 Backman 0 Pacella 0 Even spotting them two callups, the least powerful Met of all time in terms of most ABs with the club producing 0 HR and the pitcher...163 HR in that lineup, or 90 more than yesterday. Two nights later, Brooks, also new, was in for Maddox, so subtract Elliott's 18. Youngblood, with 29, replaced Washington, for a net loss of of 27. Mike Scott pitched and was no more powerful a hitter than John Pacella. And you still have 118. Could the Mets have fielded a lineup with less power than yesterday?

Edgy MD Sep 03 2013 01:51 PM Re: Turner Field Power Usage

I figured if you (a) take a punchless year (1979), (b) follow a punchless player who played an otherwise high-power position (Gil Flores in right), and (c) look to September, where guys at the dawn of their careers might stumble into the starting lineup, you could easily top that number. I settled on 9/3/1979, taking on the Expos in Montreal. 1. Gil Flores RF 2 2. Frank Taveras SS 2 3. Lee Mazzilli CF 37 4. John Stearns 1B 41 5. Joel Youngblood LF 23 6. Elliott Maddox 3B 13 7. Alex Trevino C 0 8. Doug Flynn 2B 5 9. Ray Burris P 1 124. Not even close. What I did learn is that Flores had one of the subbiest seasons you'll ever see in a subby career. Seventy games, but only 10 starts.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 03 2013 01:56 PM Re: Turner Field Power Usage

9/1/67 is close, but no cigar. Harrelson Jones Johnson Kranepool Swoboda Stahl Buchek Sullivan Fisher

batmagadanleadoff Sep 03 2013 01:58 PM Re: Turner Field Power Usage

9/29/67 might do the trick. I'll do the math.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 03 2013 02:01 PM Re: Turner Field Power Usage

nope.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 03 2013 02:10 PM Re: Turner Field Power Usage

I went for a Piazza-less game 10 years ago today! Sept. 2003 Roger Cedeno 36 Danny Garcia 0 Timo Perez 17 Jason Phillips 12 Ty Wigginton 16 Raul Gonzalez 5 Vance Wilson 13 Jorge Velandia 0 Steve Trachsel 2 101 total, plus the one Timo would hit this day! A few weeks later you have the same cast except Seo & Prentice Redman where Trax and Timo are. That's about 85.

G-Fafif Sep 03 2013 02:20 PM Re: Turner Field Power Usage

Found one, from just over 50 years ago, 8/31/1963: Christopher 8 Kanehl 5 Hunt 8 Gonder 7 Hickman 26 Harkness 9 Carmel 3 Moran 0 Willey 2 That's 68 home runs entering that Saturday's showdown versus the Milwaukee Braves at the Polo Grounds. Al Moran chose this game to blast his only Met home run to up the lineup's total directly after the fact to 69. The Mets lost anyway, 4-3. Before that, lineups always included somebody like Gil Hodges, Frank Thomas, Duke Snider (who Casey used to PH vs. Spahn), Charlie Neal, Jimmy Piersall...not much future but a powerful past.

Edgy MD Sep 03 2013 02:43 PM Re: Turner Field Power Usage

Yeah, I looked at 2003 also, focusing on Duncan minus Piazza, and the first I found was 9/14: 1. Cedeno, rf, 36 2. Garcia, 2b, 2 3. Perez, lf, 18 4. Phillips, 1b, 12 5. Wigginton, 3b, 16 6. Wilson, c, 13 7. Velandia, ss, 0 8. Duncan, cf, 0 9. Glavine, p, 1 That's 98. Perhaps a similar lineup could be found from earlier in the season when Piazza is hurt but Phillis and Wiggy haven't hit too many yet, but then Alomar or Vaughn might be there. Or Burnitz or Floyd. Can't have that. How about... August 10? 1. Roger Cedeno, RF, 35 2. Jose Reyes, SS, 1 3. Jason Phillips, 1B, 8 4.Ty Wigginton, 3B, 13 (would hit his 14th that day) 5. Raul Gonzalez, CF, 5 (and done --- would never hit anothe) 6. Joe McEwing, LF, 23 7. Marco Scutaro, 2B, 2 8. Vance Wilson, C, 13 9. Al Leiter, P, 0 That's 100, without even help from Duncan. Who'da guessed that Cedeno would be such a powerhouse and ruin this shit for everybody involved?

G-Fafif Sep 03 2013 04:39 PM Re: Turner Field Power Usage

50 Years Ago yesterday: 9/2/1963, second game of Labor Day doubleheader @ PG, Reds 1 Mets 0 Hickman 27 Carmel 4 Hunt 8 Harkness 11 Hicks 11 Coleman 8 Schreiber 0 Moran 1 Hook 0 70: Better than 9/2/2013, not quite down to 8/31/1963's standards.

G-Fafif Sep 03 2013 04:54 PM Re: Turner Field Power Usage

50 Years Ago Thursday, 9/5/1963, STL 9 NYM 0 @ oldest Busch Stadium E. Kranepool 2 T. Harkness 12 R. Hunt 8 J. Hickman 27 P. Green 12 D. Smith 0 Cannizzaro 0 A. Moran 1 G. Powell 0 TOTAL: 62 A new low!

G-Fafif Sep 03 2013 04:59 PM Re: Turner Field Power Usage

But it gets worse. September 7, 1963, Reds 4 Mets 2 @ Crosley Field. Kranepool 2 Hunt 8 Green 12 Harkness 12 Carmel 4 Hicks 11 Coleman 8 Moran 1 Stallard 0 That's 58. A major league lineup coming into a game with 58 home runs.

Edgy MD Sep 03 2013 06:41 PM Re: Turner Field Power Usage

Pumpsie Green and his .409 OBP batting third! Pumpsie is the poor man's 1963 version of Richie Ashburn to me. If anybody had been paying attention to OBP, he'd've never disappeared.

G-Fafif Sep 04 2013 07:14 PM Re: Turner Field Power Usage

From this exercise, this essay.

Edgy MD Sep 05 2013 06:26 AM Re: Turner Field Power Usage

The key to plunging beneath 60 seemed to be playing Hicks instead of Hickman. I'm thinking Casey may have been meaning to write Hickman's name into the lineup, but grew disengaged halfway through the name and trailed off.

Edgy MD Sep 05 2013 06:27 AM Re: Turner Field Power Usage

Cool, you just got a traffic bump from Rubin: http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/p ... -cleveland

G-Fafif Sep 05 2013 08:03 AM Re: Turner Field Power Usage

Edgy MD wrote: The key to plunging beneath 60 seemed to be playing Hicks instead of Hickman. I'm thinking Casey may have been meaning to write Hickman's name into the lineup, but grew disengaged halfway through the name and trailed off. Would also explain Edna Stengel's dismay about her mail being forwarded to Hicksville.