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IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

G-Fafif Sep 28 2013 07:14 PM

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G-Fafif Sep 28 2013 09:37 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Mets and Phils tied for third at 73-88. Also hanging in the balance of Game 162, the outcome of the all-important CPF prediction contest: doctee 74-88 msf62 74-88 G-Fafif 73-89 sharpie 73-89 Pregame, Mike Piazza will be lavishly honored and his plaque will be added to the Mets HOF...assuming they've figured out a place to put it. Seriously, the way it's set up, there is no obvious slot for it, but I'm sure they'll figure something out. They are the Mets, after all. Niese started Opening Day and starts Closing Day. Sym-Met-ry!

Zvon Sep 28 2013 11:07 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

G-Fafif wrote: Mets and Phils tied for third at 73-88. Also hanging in the balance of Game 162, the outcome of the all-important CPF prediction contest: doctee 74-88 msf62 74-88 G-Fafif 73-89 sharpie 73-89 Wow. May the best men win. And I can't believe G or Sharpie want the Mets to lose today.

G-Fafif Sep 28 2013 11:13 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Zvon wrote: Mets and Phils tied for third at 73-88. Also hanging in the balance of Game 162, the outcome of the all-important CPF prediction contest: doctee 74-88 msf62 74-88 G-Fafif 73-89 sharpie 73-89 Wow. May the best men win. And I can't believe G or Sharpie want the Mets to lose today. You kidding? The glory attached to having won last year's prediction contest is still getting me free subway rides, provided I refill my Metrocard sufficiently and swipe it properly.

G-Fafif Sep 28 2013 11:17 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

There's also this. SHaMs have won 32 games since the All-Star break.

G-Fafif Sep 29 2013 08:27 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Scout Harry Minor gets the Mets HOF Award today, same one given to Bob Mandt and Pete Flynn since its inception in 2010.

G-Fafif Sep 29 2013 08:28 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Last dance: Eric Young, Jr. – LF Lucas Duda – 1B David Wright – 3B Daniel Murphy – 2B Mike Baxter – RF Juan Lagares – CF Juan Centeno – C Wilfredo Tovar – SS Jonathon Niese – LHP

Ceetar Sep 29 2013 08:31 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

G-Fafif wrote: Last dance: Eric Young, Jr. – LF Lucas Duda – 1B David Wright – 3B Daniel Murphy – 2B Mike Baxter – RF Juan Lagares – CF Juan Centeno – C Wilfredo Tovar – SS Jonathon Niese – LHP Over/Under 3.5 of these are back next year?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 29 2013 08:35 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Ova. Last Mets game to be broadcast on 660 till the next MFY series. Disgraceful.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 29 2013 08:42 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

On It's Over Day, I say Over.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 29 2013 08:50 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Gwreck Sep 29 2013 09:30 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Ceetar wrote: Over/Under 3.5 of these are back next year? I'd say 5 of these guys are in the opening day lineup next year.

MFS62 Sep 29 2013 10:18 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

TDA's average is .202. Adam Rubin ? @ AdamRubinESPN 4m My gut about why Travis d'Arnaud is sitting is that his average is at .202. No sense an 0-for-3 dropping it to a number that looks bad. Later

Frayed Knot Sep 29 2013 10:27 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

MFS62 wrote: TDA's average is .202. Adam Rubin ? @ AdamRubinESPN 4m My gut about why Travis d'Arnaud is sitting is that his average is at .202. No sense an 0-for-3 dropping it to a number that looks bad. Plus, look at how having a sub-.200 rookie year BA (in over 400 PAs) ruined Mike Schmidt's career.

Gwreck Sep 29 2013 10:42 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Props to the Mets for having a corporate-logo-free giveaway today.

Ashie62 Sep 29 2013 10:50 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Over 3 1/2 Have fun to all there...

Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 11:16 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Piazza entering to guitar music --- first funk (Hendrix), then metal (Nooj). Howie Rose is always at his best in these Master of Ceremonies jobs when he goes a little off-book.

Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 11:22 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Al Leiter phoning it in.

Zvon Sep 29 2013 11:24 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

My MLB.TV is not showing anything. Says game will begin shortly. Ha, what a rip.

Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 11:25 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Yeah, me too. Working off the radio feed. Is Valentine really absent?

Zvon Sep 29 2013 11:26 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Edgy MD wrote: Yeah, me too. Working off the radio feed. Is Valentine really absent? This is SNY's doing and they can suckMahBalls.

Lefty Specialist Sep 29 2013 11:28 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Ha. They booed the Wilpons and cheered Doubleday.

Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 11:29 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Shucks. Crying like a babe.

Frayed Knot Sep 29 2013 11:32 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Zvon wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Yeah, me too. Working off the radio feed. Is Valentine really absent? This is SNY's doing and they can suckMahBalls. It's not that SNY is embargoing their stuff from MLB.TV, it's that MLB.TV (and the MLB 'Extra Innings' package) are contracted for games only, not for pre-game shows, no post-game stuff, etc. IOW, this is not something that SNY just arbitrarily chose to withhold.

Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 11:34 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

It's too late. His pants are down and Josh Lewin is already going at it.

Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 11:40 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Wow, Showtime has a new cable series about sex. Congratulations on the most tired idea ever. Now I get to hear the commercial for it 3000 times.

Zvon Sep 29 2013 11:42 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Frayed Knot wrote: Yeah, me too. Working off the radio feed. Is Valentine really absent? This is SNY's doing and they can suckMahBalls. It's not that SNY is embargoing their stuff from MLB.TV, it's that MLB.TV (and the MLB 'Extra Innings' package) are contracted for games only, not for pre-game shows, no post-game stuff, etc. IOW, this is not something that SNY just arbitrarily chose to withhold. Just on the phone with my brother (I could be over there-hes having meatballs!) and he said the same thing. I say fuck em all and what they're doing to baseball. Darling crackin me up. I'm gonna miss the guys more then the baseball, I think. OE: My bro has the package from comcast and he was blacked out.

Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 11:45 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

I thought it was Piazza's burning effigy of Guillermo Mota was a little over the top.

Zvon Sep 29 2013 11:49 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

How many times are we gonna have to listen to this song today Ed? "he's stroooong."

Zvon Sep 29 2013 11:50 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Wow. 161 games played this season by Murphy. He's strooong.

Zvon Sep 29 2013 11:54 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Young singles. Steal two!

Zvon Sep 29 2013 11:54 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Theres one! 45 leads the league!

Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 11:55 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Young gets on base. AND GETS THE STEAL! Any other team might've rolled over. Milwaukee had incentive to defend against it.

Zvon Sep 29 2013 11:56 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

YEAAAAAAA. Lucroy hesitates! 46!

Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 11:56 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

BANG! BANG! Stealing third with a lefthanded batter. Let's steal home.

Zvon Sep 29 2013 11:58 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Edgy MD wrote: BANG! BANG! Stealing third with a lefthanded batter. Let's steal home. I would love it, but wait for two out. Give Duda (gah) and Wright a chance to pick him up.

Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 11:58 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Speed killz.

Zvon Sep 29 2013 11:59 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

[bigpurple:bvemprfx]WHOA![/bigpurple:bvemprfx] Throw beats Young. Young beats the tag!

Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 12:00 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Last time I remember a guy stealing at the end of the year when everybody knew he'd be stealing is when John Stearns was going for record for steals by a catcher. If I recall correctly, his success rate went down dramatically the last few games.

Zvon Sep 29 2013 12:02 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Great piece G. [url]http://www.faithandfearinflushing.com/2013/09/29/as-we-began-piazza-ended/

Zvon Sep 29 2013 12:10 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Great Piazza booth talk. I'd like to see the complete interview the third guys did for SNY. Wonder how much it would cost for just that interview.

Zvon Sep 29 2013 12:16 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Great talk. Yikes, now the Piazza days are becoming nostalgic. We're all gettin old.

Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 12:24 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

I just noticed Al Jackson was on the field. Did he get inducted while I wasn't looking or was he there in a guesty capacity?

Gwreck Sep 29 2013 12:29 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

He was introduced as being on the Hall of Fame committee and also presented the award to Minor.

Zvon Sep 29 2013 12:30 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Edgy MD wrote: I just noticed Al Jackson was on the field. Did he get inducted while I wasn't looking or was he there in a guesty capacity? Don't know, but Jackson's in our Heart Of Fame.

Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 12:31 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Some serious hoity toities drinking wine behind John Franco as he's being interviewed.

Gwreck Sep 29 2013 12:31 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Great story on the WFAN broadcast (RIP) from Howie about the Piazza homer off Wagner in 1998, how the stadium went quiet and the only thing he and Gary heard were each other in adjoining broadcast booths going crazy on the air.

Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 12:32 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Sheesh, enough Mike Piazza. It's Eric Young, Jr. Day.

Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 12:38 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

D.B. Cooper is a terrible ump.

Zvon Sep 29 2013 12:39 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Edgy MD wrote: D.B. Cooper is a terrible ump. Agreed #1.

Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 12:45 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

I'll give credit where it's due. Bucknor is a rare ump in that he stays in shape. And he didn't take Terry's bait, either. Pretty lousy call, though. Not a big league mistake either. Amazing that Lagares gets all these assists on offline throws.

Zvon Sep 29 2013 12:46 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

What an exciting inning. I assume. I missed most of it. Saw the last minute.

Zvon Sep 29 2013 12:53 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

I saw up to the Young throw to the plate, and then did catch the tag on the Lagares throw. On the Young one, he was surprised the guy kept going.

Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 12:54 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

AT&T Trivia: Four Career Walkoff Hormers for the Mets 1) Mike Piazza 2) _________ 3) _________ 4) _________ I'll say Beltran, Ventura, and HoJo.

Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 01:03 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Henderson Alvarez throws nine no-hit innings but his team has no runs. I'd keep him in indefinitely. Last day of the season. Go ahead and blow your arm out.

Zvon Sep 29 2013 01:08 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Edgy MD wrote: I'd keep him in indefinitely. Last day of the season. Go ahead and blow your arm out. Agreed again #1. I'll be in my ready room.

Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 01:09 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

I don't know about y'all, but I say Tovar has lived up to his billing defensively. He's stroonnnng.

bmfc1 Sep 29 2013 01:20 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Agreed Edgy. Tovar looks good. Meanwhile, why couldn't Terry use Gee for this inning so that Gee could get his 200th IP? Gee said that this was important to him.

Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 01:21 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

AT&T Trivia: Four Career Walkoff Hormers for the Mets 1) Mike Piazza 2) _________ 3) _________ 4) _________ I'll say Beltran, Ventura, and HoJo. Wow. Chris Jones.

Zvon Sep 29 2013 01:21 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Okay, I'm here for the duration. People who have called me on the phone today during this game must think I'm a real dick. I'm like "yea, okay, whatever, gotta go." Actually I don't say that, but I want to. Did he say Chris Jones?

Zvon Sep 29 2013 01:25 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Nice to see the stands with people in em.

Zvon Sep 29 2013 01:32 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

It'll be very anti-climactic if we just sputter out of this season without a fight in these last two innings. LETS

Zvon Sep 29 2013 01:34 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

The 31 patch on the caps is a nice touch. A marketing ploy that I may just have to fall for.

Zvon Sep 29 2013 01:40 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

I'm gonna have to watch some of that no-hitter.

Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 01:42 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

GO

Zvon Sep 29 2013 01:44 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Yea,we needed that. It's go time Laggy.

Zvon Sep 29 2013 01:45 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

wow

Zvon Sep 29 2013 01:47 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Zvon Sep 29 2013 01:47 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

HOLY CRAP!!

Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 01:47 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

M=#FF8000]ET=#FF8000]S! Keith being scandalized by sloppy defense is great TV. Keep bunting, Mets.

Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 01:48 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Oh dear God, it's great to hear "Let's Go, Mets!" from a sellout crowd again.

Zvon Sep 29 2013 01:49 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Edgy MD wrote: M=#FF8000]ET=#FF8000]S! Keith being scandalized by sloppy defense is great TV. Keep bunting, Mets. Darling was disgusted. Ha.

Zvon Sep 29 2013 01:53 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Do it for Piazza Eric.

Zvon Sep 29 2013 01:54 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Young likes Piazza. 3-2 Mets.

Zvon Sep 29 2013 01:59 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

I'll take those cheapo runs Gary. No problembo. Its those little things we gotta do. Make contact in that spot Young was in. Even a dribbler could plate a run. To many Ks happening in that spot for the Mets. Good to see. FF? boooo

Zvon Sep 29 2013 02:00 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Why would Hawkins not be available?

Zvon Sep 29 2013 02:07 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 02:13 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Satisfying way to close out the season. If I could change one thing, well, there was a certain Sean Henn factor that the game was somewhat short on. MORE HENN IN 14!!

d'Kong76 Sep 29 2013 02:16 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

End of regular season sucks when you're not moving on.

metirish Sep 29 2013 02:51 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Fun game to attend, the festivities were cool, apologies to Metfairy for not seeking you out in the parking lot, traffic sucked and I was scrambling after that to pick up my tix etc, big crowd today, nice to see.

Gwreck Sep 29 2013 03:28 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Mets players threw all of their hats to the crowd after the game ended. I thought that was classy. Howie had a very nice sign off, thanking lots of people over the last few innings and then inviting everyone to join them for next season - "check your local listings." Seeing a sellout at the ballpark was strange. On days like this I am left to wonder what our stadium could be like if only we could get a winning team to play in it.

Ceetar Sep 29 2013 03:39 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Gwreck wrote: Mets players threw all of their hats to the crowd after the game ended. I thought that was classy. Howie had a very nice sign off, thanking lots of people over the last few innings and then inviting everyone to join them for next season - "check your local listings." Seeing a sellout at the ballpark was strange. On days like this I am left to wonder what our stadium could be like if only we could get a winning team to play in it. Almost spoiled now, between Opening Day and the ASG and today.. I've seen it full a lot this year. It'd have been nice if they hadn't packed up half the concession stands andthe beer coolers were half empty too.

metirish Sep 29 2013 04:00 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Loved Mike's line about teaching his son how to hit " and I told Jeff that the Mets will have first crack at him....... But he won't be cheap", big cheers. Leiter gave a nice tribute from the MLB studio, Surprised Zeil wasn't there and Lenny Harris.

Ceetar Sep 29 2013 04:45 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

metirish wrote: Loved Mike's line about teaching his son how to hit " and I told Jeff that the Mets will have first crack at him....... But he won't be cheap", big cheers. Leiter gave a nice tribute from the MLB studio, Surprised Zeil wasn't there and Lenny Harris. Tributes from Chris Christie, and ..The KISS guy..Neil Simmons? inbetween innings.

G-Fafif Sep 29 2013 05:09 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

I picked 33 wins for the second half, which I thought left them at my preseason prediction of 73-89, but they have 41 wins right now (I thought it was 40), so I was off by one. Anyway, 33-38 over their final 71 sounds reasonable given the lineup flux, regressions to the mean and, most importantly, the kind of pitching that should prevent utter second-half collapse. Might be enough to save Terry, which I'm not thrilled about, but if he earns it, he earns it. 33 wins in the second half. Got the Mets...well, third place, I guess. But a bit of a sham for the SHaMs. Congrats to DocTee and MFS for nailing the 74-88 overall record. Congrats to the Mets for not going out with four losses in a row. Congrats to Mike Piazza, New York Mets Hall of Famer. Maybe the only speech in which an honoree said solemnly he's keeping the team honoring him in his prayers. He also semi-literally buried Nelson Doubleday, whom he thanked while referring to him as "no longer with us." I guess he meant with the Mets, but it sounded far graver.

G-Fafif Sep 29 2013 05:09 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Oh, and superclassy move by Terry jogging out to CF pregame and acknowledging the 7 Line fans who filled the Big Apple seats. Not a huge fan of the mgr, but he pulls one out of his hat now and again. Way to go.

Ceetar Sep 29 2013 05:40 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

G-Fafif wrote: Oh, and superclassy move by Terry jogging out to CF pregame and acknowledging the 7 Line fans who filled the Big Apple seats. Not a huge fan of the mgr, but he pulls one out of his hat now and again. Way to go. Terry's probably the second classiest guy on the team. During the close play at first that ended the..5th? where the runner dropped his helmet and what looked like a shin guard, Wright while jogging off the field picked it up for him and tossed it to him. (He dropped it.) Wright also was (presumably) thanking the umpires after the game.

seawolf17 Sep 29 2013 06:12 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Wish we could have been there. Anyone wind up with an extra one of the Piazza shirts they're willing to toss in the mail to me?

metirish Sep 29 2013 06:18 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

What Terry did was very cool, he got a great hand for it, after going to CF he came down our side in RF and was getting a standing ovation. The 7 Line crew are great, made lots of noise, how does one go about joining them?

HahnSolo Sep 29 2013 06:32 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

I liked the Piazza ceremony, though it felt a little...incomplete maybe? Would have thought we'd see more of Mike's teammates, maybe a recording from Ventura or someone. Fonzie and Johnny probably could have spent a little more time working on what they wanted to say. And I have no clue how they made the decision to have Valentine in the studio in NYC and not in Citi for this. Mrs. Solo took a moment to look up from her book to say about Alicia (that's uh-lee-cee-uh to you), "who is that woman? She's had some bad work done!"

metirish Sep 29 2013 06:35 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Totally agree, I thought there would be a lot more of HIS teammates there instead of the old reliables that always get trotted out.

themetfairy Sep 29 2013 06:42 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

metirish wrote: The 7 Line crew are great, made lots of noise, how does one go about joining them? Buy a ticket and show up at one of their events. It's that easy.

Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 07:07 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

HahnSolo wrote: Fonzie and Johnny probably could have spent a little more time working on what they wanted to say. Yeah, I always come away from these wondering if history could have been marked a little more momentously by these guys' agents having them sit down with a professional speech writer for a bit.

Ceetar Sep 29 2013 07:19 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

themetfairy wrote: metirish wrote: The 7 Line crew are great, made lots of noise, how does one go about joining them? Buy a ticket and show up at one of their events. It's that easy. @the7line They do about a dozen games a year group sales, Opening Day among them. They're organizing a trip to SF next year.

Ceetar Sep 29 2013 08:06 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Ceetar wrote: G-Fafif wrote: Oh, and superclassy move by Terry jogging out to CF pregame and acknowledging the 7 Line fans who filled the Big Apple seats. Not a huge fan of the mgr, but he pulls one out of his hat now and again. Way to go. Terry's probably the second classiest guy on the team. During the close play at first that ended the..5th? where the runner dropped his helmet and what looked like a shin guard, Wright while jogging off the field picked it up for him and tossed it to him. (He dropped it.) Wright also was (presumably) thanking the umpires after the game.

Gwreck Sep 29 2013 10:54 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Ceetar wrote: between Opening Day and the ASG and today.. I've seen it full a lot this year. If those were the only games you went to, sure. There were three games this year with paid attendance over 41,000: opening day, fireworks night, and this game. Attendance this season was 2,093,766, down 6.6% from last year. It was the fifth straight season of decreasing attendance.

Nymr83 Sep 30 2013 05:15 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Gwreck wrote: between Opening Day and the ASG and today.. I've seen it full a lot this year. If those were the only games you went to, sure. There were three games this year with paid attendance over 41,000: opening day, fireworks night, and this game. Attendance this season was 2,093,766, down 6.6% from last year. It was the fifth straight season of decreasing attendance. A trend that will likely continue until they don't suck. its been 1997 since they finished this poorly in attendance and, even worse, they finished 14th of 15 teams in the NL! worst since 12th of 12 in both 1983 and 1979. ouch.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 30 2013 06:54 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

The org has gotten just what it deserves in terms of attendance. In addition to the overall results being poor, the trajectories of each year have begun to resemble one another (OKish start, horrible second half) and the home team has played terribly there in all but one year since it opened. I also think that pricing tickets way too high for a recession, and then, introducing hasty in-season promotions on top of a complex tiered/variable pricing scheme has created a general sense of distrust in the value of anything the team has to sell. I think they'd do well to reduce that complexity and institute a true, no-bullshit "everyday low price" type offering until they can re-establish credibility with ticket buyers. But you know the Mets. The second the team's performance improves they'll make you pay for it.

Ceetar Sep 30 2013 07:05 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

the only thing they need to do is win. That's 99% of the attendance/revenue and that 1% 'everyday low price' is probably not worth giving up the added revenue of pricing the good games higher. If the Mets win more than 80 games next year, 2015 attendance will at least approach 3 million again. No matter how or what they market it or what they price it at.

Edgy MD Sep 30 2013 07:45 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: The org has gotten just what it deserves in terms of attendance. In addition to the overall results being poor, the trajectories of each year have begun to resemble one another (OKish start, horrible second half) and the home team has played terribly there in all but one year since it opened. I also think that pricing tickets way too high for a recession, and then, introducing hasty in-season promotions on top of a complex tiered/variable pricing scheme has created a general sense of distrust in the value of anything the team has to sell. I think they'd do well to reduce that complexity and institute a true, no-bullshit "everyday low price" type offering until they can re-establish credibility with ticket buyers. But you know the Mets. The second the team's performance improves they'll make you pay for it. I was thinking (as I am often doing these days) about the Eagles and the first $100 rock ticket. Around the same time --- Eagles or no --- venues, promoters, and sports franchising were getting wise to how successfully the secondary market had been gouging people for the longest time, and so why not gouge them at the source. If that meant that an embarrassingly large block of tickets covering a whole section of Jones Beach Theaters went unsold for the Loggins & Messina reunion tour, so be it. You make it up with the increased revenues from larger ticket sales, and you can cut staff and amenities for the small crowd. You try and ignore the PR hit from the embarrassment of Kenny singing "Angry Eyes" to a half-empty arena. When a junior exec tries to show you a spreadsheet demonstrating that there's a real cost in future revenues to treating your audience tat way, you fire and possibly kill that troublemaker before he shows that spreadsheet to anyone over your head. An interesting effect to introducing dynamic pricing is the reality that it's almost impossible to imitate constantly shifting marketplace of scalpers outside the venue, with tickets instantly spiking as demand increases, and nosediving below cover price the moment the event started. I mean, I hate scalpers, but the Who show always sold out when scalpers controlled the market The price would shift toward the seller or toward the buyer, but eventually the market would settle where it would settle and the crowd size was a fair reflection of the demand for the event. And you would never have the scandal of the front section sparsely filled with a handful of swells who are embarrassed (if they have any soul at all --- at their lack of neighbors. Anyhow, it's certainly not just the Mets. The pricing scheme on the Nats is mostly miserable. You seem to find a ticket that's reasonable and you show up at the ballpark and realized you're a mile from the field. But it sure is a pleasure to shop for tickets for the Orioles. And they have a good team. Sometimes I visit their site just to stare at teh prices, even if I haven't got time to see the game. I'm sure the cold comfort with the organization (and more likely with their creditors) is that, while the team's record has flatlined and attendance has receded, the cost-cutting has outpaced both. Such are the Pyrrhic victories in times of recession and the collapse of fraudulent financial schemes.

metirish Sep 30 2013 08:20 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Ceetar wrote: the only thing they need to do is win. That's 99% of the attendance/revenue and that 1% 'everyday low price' is probably not worth giving up the added revenue of pricing the good games higher. If the Mets win more than 80 games next year, 2015 attendance will at least approach 3 million again. No matter how or what they market it or what they price it at. 3 million?, I think that is very optimistic , only in the first year of CF did they get to that figure. http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams ... tend.shtml

Gwreck Sep 30 2013 09:21 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Edgy MD wrote: An interesting effect to introducing dynamic pricing is the reality that it's almost impossible to imitate constantly shifting marketplace of scalpers outside the venue, with tickets instantly spiking as demand increases, and nosediving below cover price the moment the event started. That might be true, but the "dynamic" pricing the Mets offer doesn't even adjust to the shifting marketplace for the week or two weeks or two months before the game even occurs. I know I have beat this drum many times before but the Mets have an artificial price floor. Dynamic pricing would be welcome if it was truly dynamic, but nobody wants to approach that reality, that the $100 "Field Box" seat they sell on their website is going for $60 on Stubhub. The Mets can't even plead ignorance here, as they know full well that tickets are selling for those prices there, given MLB getting in bed with Stubhub on ticket resales. We need look no further than the two games against the Yankees this year, which didn't sell out (or anywhere close), yet the Mets never dropped the prices.

Edgy MD Sep 30 2013 09:28 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

But, while all that's true, what's the real complaint? If you want that ticket, and you get it legally and priced down on Stubhub, hasn't the marketplace come down to meet you at the level of demand? Or do you feel Stubhub's price is artificially high also?

Gwreck Sep 30 2013 09:38 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Yes and no. There are still plenty of games this year which I did not go to (including the games against the Yankees) because the asking price was above my (and apparently many others') willingness to pay. Stubhub is only a partial remedy because the availability of tickets there is still limited due to the Mets' artificially high face value prices; many tickets go unsold and never reach market value because nobody wants to find out what that really is (ie. how much of a hit they'll have to take in order to sell their tickets). Plus, I am sometimes uncomfortable buying at a discount and having a third-party eat the loss; I'd much rather that the Mets price their tickets fairly from the start. If they did, I'd buy them from the team directly.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2013 09:43 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Gwreck wrote: Plus, I am sometimes uncomfortable buying at a discount and having a third-party eat the loss; You mean the StubHUb seller? Isn't he presumably selling at market? Would you be more comfortable if he tried to gouge you by selling way above market even though the face value of his ticket has depreciated significantly?

Edgy MD Sep 30 2013 09:46 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

You have me up until that last paragraph. The third party knows what they're doing and have compooters minimizing their risk. Every dollar they lose selling you a discounted Mets ticket, I'm sure they gain back ten times over selling a seat to U2/My Morning Jacket at $285. A charitable thought for them is nice, but I don't think they need it.

Gwreck Sep 30 2013 09:46 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Gwreck wrote: Plus, I am sometimes uncomfortable buying at a discount and having a third-party eat the loss; You mean the StubHUb seller? Isn't he presumably selling at market? Would you be more comfortable if he tried to gouge you by selling way above market even though the face value of his ticket has depreciated significantly? I get that this is not an economics argument. Of course the Stubhub seller is pricing the tickets at market value. I have no qualms whatsoever about buying a ticket under face value from a "professional" ticket scalper. It becomes a little more uncomfortable if it's a "ordinary fan" eating that loss.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 30 2013 10:20 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

I'm sort of saying the same thing. It's not necessarily that one system is superior to the other, just the whole notion that I believe that some of the Mets' attendance woes is due to ticket policies that at first were way out of line and since inconsistent and left the ticket buying public un. Ceetar's "winning fixes everything" argument may be true to a degree (certainly seems to be the Wilpon's solution for everything), but it's really not addressing the pricing credibility issues at all.

Ceetar Sep 30 2013 10:32 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Edgy MD wrote: You have me up until that last paragraph. The third party knows what they're doing and have compooters minimizing their risk. Every dollar they lose selling you a discounted Mets ticket, I'm sure they gain back ten times over selling a seat to U2/My Morning Jacket at $285. A charitable thought for them is nice, but I don't think they need it. Especially at this point, most of those third party people are NOT U2/My Morning Jacket resellers, they're just other fans that bought season tickets because for some reason they like their 10% discount and knowing their section and all that jazz and can't get to every game or try to resell a couple of minimize the annual cost. On the other hand, it's these same people that would balk if the Mets put every ticket on sale for $5 in September. And the Mets don't want them thinking about how much more reasonable it almost always is to buy individually and create your own plan (at least for the non-full season stuff) because they'd much rather have their money in the bank in October than sporadically throughout the season. Well sure, it doesn't address the credibility but really no one (Mets or other franchises/sports) cares about credibility when you've got the demand. I think perhaps scalpers, and amateur scalpers (guys that buy 15 game plans with the intention of selling the Yankees/Openers to pay for the others or selling the others to pay for the Marquee games and the like) masked how bad the situation was after 2009 and 2010. So many bought with new stadium and good team in place expecting to make money. So while 'in the house' attendance was down, the tickets were still sold and the money spent. But those people never had intentions of going to the games, and it took a little longer for the demand to dissipate from the primary market. Suddenly people stopped renewing after 2009 was not a fluke, and the Mets were perhaps shocked at how many of them didn't convert to lesser plans or day of game sales. It sucks that they gauge us for the games we want to see and the best deals are for the midweek games, but I'm not sure I can complain about that. The midweek Yankee game probably shocked them, at both stadiums, wouldn't be surprised to see the premium prices drop slightly next year, but the train charges me more during rush hour, the parking lots cost more, a movie ticket is more in the evening. The bridge tolls are more during rush hour.. Hotels on the beach cost more in the summer...the premium stuff is always going to be overpriced.

Edgy MD Sep 30 2013 10:49 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Well really, the artificial marketplace is always going to be there as long as MLB has controlling power of what is and isn't authentic professional American baseball. It would be great if cities allowed indy league teams to use MLB ballparks while the MLB team is out of town.

metirish Sep 30 2013 11:05 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

IIRC Stubhub sets the price when you submit a ticket to be sold, based on comps with similar tickets. I know it did when I had a ticket to sell for a concert(it didn't sell")

themetfairy Sep 30 2013 11:10 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Piazza enjoyed the accolades - The Captain - EY scoring the game's first run - Another in the series of lousy likenesses. And are they going to re-do the Mets HOF in the offseason? Otherwise, why was Mikey's plaque just propped up on an easel (I remember that John Franco's plaque was hanging the day of his HOF ceremony) -

Edgy MD Sep 30 2013 11:15 AM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Interesting that EY scored using a hook slide with his feet --- what Hernandez called the Maury Wills slide. The two guys thrown out were hook sliding with their hands --- which made Keith go absolutely nutso.

Gwreck Sep 30 2013 12:10 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

metirish wrote: IIRC Stubhub sets the price when you submit a ticket to be sold, based on comps with similar tickets. I know it did when I had a ticket to sell for a concert(it didn't sell") No. The seller chooses the price. The comps to similar tickets is for the seller's reference.

Ceetar Sep 30 2013 12:11 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Gwreck wrote: metirish wrote: IIRC Stubhub sets the price when you submit a ticket to be sold, based on comps with similar tickets. I know it did when I had a ticket to sell for a concert(it didn't sell") No. The seller chooses the price. The comps to similar tickets is for the seller's reference. there's a minimum though ($6 i think)

Gwreck Sep 30 2013 12:20 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Ceetar wrote: there's a minimum though ($6 i think) That's Stubhub's minimum charge. You can sell your ticket for one cent if you want. Stubhub will charge the buyer no less than $6.

metirish Sep 30 2013 12:24 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Now I know why mine never sold....

themetfairy Sep 30 2013 01:59 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Meanwhile, does anyone know what Vince Piazza's health issues are? Reading Long Shot, it was apparent that there had been a schism in the relationship between Mike and his father. Obviously Vince is in poor health (Mike alluded to that in his speech yesterday, plus Vince used a wheelchair during the festivities) and the relationship has apparently been mended. But so far I haven't found out what's wrong with Vince. Hopefully it's something from which he's recovering.

Zvon Sep 30 2013 02:37 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

themetfairy wrote: EY scoring the game's first run - This is a great photo. As far as Piazza's dad goes I was concerned too. His fathers appearance was only touched on. As far as the Mets and their tickets go, I think their biggest mistake is trying to be something they're not. Their business model should not be so influenced by what the Yankees are doing. The Mets are more like the Phillies and it would serve them well to look more at the Phils business model.

themetfairy Sep 30 2013 02:42 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Thank you Zvon :) And agreed about the Phillies model. I've often said that while I do not like the Phillies or their phans, I have nothing but respect for their organization. They consistently treat me better than my own team does; the Mets could stand to learn a few lessons from them. Meanwhile, I'm watching the replay of yesterday's game, and am amused at the booth's reaction to Milwaukee's poor defense in the bottom of the 8th - classic GKR!

Gwreck Sep 30 2013 02:53 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Either Howie or Ed remarked on the the broadcast that he had a stroke.

themetfairy Sep 30 2013 03:16 PM Re: IGT 9/29/2013: MIL @ NYM -- Piazza Party & Au Revoir

Thanks Gwreck.