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Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

G-Fafif Oct 10 2013 07:51 AM

This guy is probably thrilled by the Dodgers and Cardinals meeting in the NLCS, and not just because he's in Southern California. Don't know if anybody else is totally stoked, but here they are, meeting for the fourth time in postseason play. 1985 went to Ozzie and Clark over Niedenfuer. 2004 was a Redbird triumph, marked by Jim Tracy and Tony LaRussa making their players shake hands afterward a la the Stanley Cup; it didn't catch on. 2009 belonged to the Dodgers when Matt Holliday experienced a whoopsie. And now this, the team that spent a ton of money versus the team that keeps manufacturing mint-condition rookies. It's the kind of series only an '80s movie villain would relish.

Lefty Specialist Oct 10 2013 07:53 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Ugh. I'll be rooting for rain delays.

G-Fafif Oct 10 2013 07:58 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Smog vs Smug TM.

Vic Sage Oct 10 2013 08:10 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

"Best fans in baseball" vs "Worst fans in baseball"... feh. A plague on both their houses. Either way, i'm rooting for Boston against the NL... the enemy of my enemy is my friend. so i've always liked the Sox. especially when they let the 86 championship roll thru their legs.

Edgy MD Oct 10 2013 08:16 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

What recent Dodger teams have taken away from me is the idea that a definitive part of the Dodgers has always been how... smart... they've always looked, turned out in perfectly tailored uniforms, maybe with a crease down the sleeve even. A gargantuan or mis-shapen or tattooed or hair-died or hair-customized or douchey-facial-hair guy has NEVER looked good in a Dodger uniform --- Eric Gagne and Jose Lima always looked like misplaced Diamondbacks or something --- but now they all seem to have outsized bodies and looky-me personalities. There's a place for all that, but it just seems somehow wrong wrapped up in a Dodger uniform.

MFS62 Oct 10 2013 08:17 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Vic Sage wrote: Either way, i'm rooting for Boston against the NL... the enemy of my enemy is my friend. so i've always liked the Sox. especially when they let the 86 championship roll thru their legs. If you watch sports news on a Connecticut station, you don't know that any team other than the Sawks is still playing. Later

cooby Oct 10 2013 08:26 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

I'll be reading in bed

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 10 2013 08:28 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

I hate em each worse than the other.

Fman99 Oct 10 2013 09:21 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

I hate the Cardinals more than the Dodgers at this point. Fuck Adam Wainwright and Yadier Molina.

Mets – Willets Point Oct 10 2013 09:22 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Let's go Fire Ants!

Gwreck Oct 10 2013 11:38 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

The Dodgers winning the LCS would be yet one more example of the positive change that can happen when you dump your shitty owner with legal troubles in favor of people with actual cash to spend. Plus the Cardinals have a couple of recent titles. The rooting choice is clear, however unsavory it may be.

Lefty Specialist Oct 10 2013 11:43 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Gwreck wrote: The Dodgers winning the LCS would be yet one more example of the positive change that can happen when you dump your shitty owner with legal troubles in favor of people with actual cash to spend. And that's why I hate them. Bud forced them to do that. Meanwhile he bent over backwards to keep the Wilpons in place, even lending them money in their hour of need. We're in a trap from which there is no escape.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 10 2013 11:48 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

I'm rooting for the Dodgers, so that the long-suffering people-who-generally-couldn't-give-a-shit-'bout-baseball can finally know a weekend or so of pure, car-flag-waving joy-- taking smartphone pictures at the mall with a guy who some other guy told them is Yasiel Puig, or loudly pretending they know who Paco Rodriguez is-- before the next tween-star-DUI or half-hour of drizzle or Carmageddon. Go Dodgers!

Mets – Willets Point Oct 10 2013 11:52 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

One upside of the Dodgers winning is more games called by Vin Scully.

Vic Sage Oct 10 2013 12:17 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

root for the Dodgers? my dad would turn over in his grave. As would all the other dead from Brooklyn.

MFS62 Oct 10 2013 01:44 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Vic Sage wrote: root for the Dodgers? my dad would turn over in his grave. As would all the other dead from Brooklyn. This live one won't be rooting for the spawn of Satan either. Later

batmagadanleadoff Oct 10 2013 01:52 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Maybe if the Mets had better owners ... if they played like a team with all the natural advantages of being the NY National League franchise should play like, they'd be in this NLCS instead of one of those other teams. I know where I'm aiming my hate.

Ceetar Oct 10 2013 03:15 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

As I was last year, rooting for the Cardinals to get Carlos Beltran a ring so that it augments his "Hall of Fame" case and ultimately adds a third* Met hat in the Museum.

bmfc1 Oct 10 2013 09:05 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Drew Magary, my new second favorite writer: http://deadspin.com/why-your-cardinals-suck-1443513646

MFS62 Oct 11 2013 08:05 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

bmfc1 wrote: Drew Magary, my new second favorite writer: http://deadspin.com/why-your-cardinals-suck-1443513646 That was beautiful. Wifey asked me why I was laughing so hard. Thanks for the link. Later

Mets – Willets Point Oct 11 2013 08:20 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Love it. It really does explain how the whole "Greatest Fans in Baseball" thing is passive aggressive and done for humblebrags.

Edgy MD Oct 11 2013 08:32 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Lefty Specialist wrote: Gwreck wrote: The Dodgers winning the LCS would be yet one more example of the positive change that can happen when you dump your shitty owner with legal troubles in favor of people with actual cash to spend. And that's why I hate them. Bud forced them to do that. Meanwhile he bent over backwards to keep the Wilpons in place, even lending them money in their hour of need. We're in a trap from which there is no escape. Don't believe that for a second.

Gwreck Oct 11 2013 08:36 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

It was pretty well documented that MLB provided assistance (ie. loans) to the Willpons; and that they refused to assist Frank McCourt as he attempted to negotiate a new TV rights deal which was key to his maintaining control of the Dodgers.

Edgy MD Oct 11 2013 08:37 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

They not only refused to assist McCourt, but actively forced his hand. Where is the trap from which there is no escape documented?

Ceetar Oct 11 2013 10:02 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Edgy MD wrote: They not only refused to assist McCourt, but actively forced his hand. Of course they were worse off and the McCourts were actively missing payroll dates and hiding money and other nefarious things, like cutting security.

TheOldMole Oct 11 2013 11:25 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Hate the Dodgers (Fuck you forever, Walter O'Malley). Don't hate the Cardinals. You can't hate everyone who's not a Met. Well, you can, but once the Mets are not in the picture, you can't. I was rooting for the Pirates, but will now go for the Cardinals. And probably root for them in the Series. I like the Tigers, but find it hard to root for a team in a league that doesn't play real baseball. And, fogey that I am, I tend to like the old, pre-Milwaukee Brave teams.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 11 2013 11:27 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

TheOldMole wrote: And, fogey that I am, I tend to like the old, pre-Milwaukee Brave teams. You mean the Boston Braves?

bmfc1 Oct 11 2013 12:57 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

MFS62 wrote: Drew Magary, my new second favorite writer: http://deadspin.com/why-your-cardinals-suck-1443513646 That was beautiful. Wifey asked me why I was laughing so hard. Thanks for the link. Later You're welcome. "The greatest fans" respond in predictable fashion. http://deadspin.com/dead-letters-the-be ... 1443885237

Edgy MD Oct 11 2013 01:24 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Ceetar wrote: Edgy MD wrote: They not only refused to assist McCourt, but actively forced his hand. Of course they were worse off and the McCourts were actively missing payroll dates and hiding money and other nefarious things, like cutting security. Certainly.

Gwreck Oct 11 2013 05:07 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Edgy MD wrote: They not only refused to assist McCourt, but actively forced his hand. Where is the trap from which there is no escape documented? Ah. We are in agreement as to that particular point. I might submit that the Dodgers are the example that proves escape is entirely possible.

bmfc1 Oct 11 2013 07:48 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

It seems like Carlos Beltran has a hit in every post-season AB except for one.

Zvon Oct 11 2013 07:53 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

bmfc1 wrote: It seems like Carlos Beltran has a hit in every post-season AB except for one. HAha, don't it? He's freakin unreal but they can stop comparing him to Ruth. PLEASE! At least wait til he's played in a World Series. Then you can go lump em all together.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 11 2013 09:24 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

"This is not a panic move. This is not a panic move. This is not a panic move. I'm not panicking. I'm not trying to convince anyone of this. I'd pull Gonzalez for Dee Gordon or start Kershaw on two days' rest or put in Jansen to close out an 8-1 Game 1 a hundred times out of one hundred, because I'm a confident, confident man."

Zvon Oct 11 2013 09:26 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

This is a good game. Maybe I should watch a bit of it.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 11 2013 09:26 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Zvon wrote: bmfc1 wrote: It seems like Carlos Beltran has a hit in every post-season AB except for one. HAha, don't it? He's freakin unreal but they can stop comparing him to Ruth. PLEASE! At least wait til he's played in a World Series. Then you can go lump em all together. Yeah, I know, right? That's kind of silly, considering the watered-down playoffs and talent pool Ruth played against, isn't it?

themetfairy Oct 11 2013 09:42 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Why is Brian Wilson wearing Mr. Met's uniform number?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 11 2013 09:56 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

More importantly, why doesn't Brian Wilson get the same strike zone the other pitchers have been getting? No matter. Free baseball!

Zvon Oct 11 2013 09:57 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

themetfairy wrote: Why is Brian Wilson wearing Mr. Met's uniform number? ...and a rubber banded beard? Is that to keep it from flying over his shoulder? 00 and a GIGANTIC beard with a rubberband squeezing it. Could he be any more of an attention whore?

Zvon Oct 11 2013 10:00 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Zvon wrote: bmfc1 wrote: It seems like Carlos Beltran has a hit in every post-season AB except for one. HAha, don't it? He's freakin unreal but they can stop comparing him to Ruth. PLEASE! At least wait til he's played in a World Series. Then you can go lump em all together. Yeah, I know, right? That's kind of silly, considering the watered-down playoffs and talent pool Ruth played against, isn't it? Its bullshit and the more I hear it the more bullshitty it sounds. Olberman always does a disclaimer but they simply shouldn't go there if the guys never been in a world series. Its ridiculous. It's not working on old fans, its not helping the new fans properly appreciate the game.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 11 2013 10:06 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

I feel safe saying that Babe Ruth, arm and all, would NOT have made that play.

Zvon Oct 11 2013 10:07 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Wow. He's unreal.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 11 2013 10:07 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Geez

Frayed Knot Oct 11 2013 10:10 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 11 2013 10:17 PM

I was saying "Send Him" as the play was developing so I can't complain about the outcome. Just a damn good throw is all.

metirish Oct 11 2013 10:11 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

I'm confused, Cal and Ron are wondering about a tag????

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 11 2013 10:12 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Holy shit-- Kolten Wong's on the postseason roster? Wasn't he their first-rounder, like, a year ago?

Frayed Knot Oct 11 2013 10:13 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

metirish wrote: I'm confused, Cal and Ron are wondering about a tag???? Well, if you look at it closely there was never actually any glove-to-body contact. The sliding Ellis and Molina really just hit shoulder to shoulder - that's all they're saying.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 11 2013 10:14 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Weird Little Nubby Mohawks or Beards or Weird Little Nubby Mohawks AND Beards or GTFO -Sign hanging in the Dodger bullpen, apparently

Frayed Knot Oct 11 2013 10:15 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 11 2013 10:25 PM

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Holy shit-- Kolten Wong's on the postseason roster? Wasn't he their first-rounder, like, a year ago? 2011 actually. He didn't hit much after getting the call-up. In fact the bench overall* might be the Cards major weakness here. * The bench of Kolten Wong, Daniel Descalso, Shane Robinson, Tony Cruz, and Adron Chambers combined to OPS barely 550 for the season

Zvon Oct 11 2013 10:19 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Frayed Knot wrote: I was saying "Send Him" as the play was developing so I can't complain about the outcome. Just a damn good throw is all. Ha. I was too because as the center fielder gave way to Beltran, I knew he'd gun him out. I had to see it to believe it though.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 11 2013 10:31 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Thought it would have been much closer than it was, I shirley send him too. Now wondering which Cardinal will end this. Actually I'm not but you know.

Zvon Oct 11 2013 10:33 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 11 2013 10:34 PM

Wow. If that got by him....he's unreal too. OE: unreal and possibly insane.

Zvon Oct 11 2013 10:33 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Beltraan up.

Gwreck Oct 11 2013 10:36 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 11 2013 10:37 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: The bench of Kolten Wong, Daniel Descalso, Shane Robinson, Tony Cruz, and Adron Chambers combined to OPS barely 550 for the season Ok, fess up. Descalso is real, but you made the rest of those guys up, right?

Zvon Oct 11 2013 10:36 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Babe Ruth would have ended it right there.

Frayed Knot Oct 11 2013 10:47 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Gwreck wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: The bench of Kolten Wong, Daniel Descalso, Shane Robinson, Tony Cruz, and Adron Chambers combined to OPS barely 550 for the season Ok, fess up. Descalso is real, but you made the rest of those guys up, right? Well, Chambers has already PH'd so I couldn't be inventing him. Cruz is the backup catcher so you'll see Jimmy Hoffa in a game before you see him. Shane Robinson is said to exist but so is Nessie up there in Scotland and, in both cases, there's very little proof.

Zvon Oct 11 2013 10:55 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Frayed Knot wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: The bench of Kolten Wong, Daniel Descalso, Shane Robinson, Tony Cruz, and Adron Chambers combined to OPS barely 550 for the season Ok, fess up. Descalso is real, but you made the rest of those guys up, right? Well, Chambers has already PH'd so I couldn't be inventing him. Cruz is the backup catcher so you'll see Jimmy Hoffa in a game before you see him. Shane Robinson is said to exist but so is Nessie up there in Scotland and, in both cases, there's very little proof.

Gwreck Oct 11 2013 11:20 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

2 on, 1 out, bottom of the 13th. Beltran up. This should be where it ends...

Zvon Oct 11 2013 11:21 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Yep, this should be over in a minute.

Zvon Oct 11 2013 11:24 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

ooo, challenges him! Fastball right over first pitch. DejaDoo.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 11 2013 11:26 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Carlos Fucking Beltran.

Zvon Oct 11 2013 11:26 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Hes losing him. Why open with that awesome pitch and then not feed him junk. BELTRAN RIPS IT INTO THE CORNER! GAME OVEH!!!!!!!!!!

Zvon Oct 11 2013 11:33 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Well, if the Redbirds advance I'll root for Beltraan to have a monster series. I rooted for him that series way back when he was an Astro, and I remember thinking how much I wished he was our centerfielder. That average with risp for the post season, that's how they should sell it. That's something else. And a decent sample size now.

smg58 Oct 12 2013 06:23 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Beltran's history of postseason success has been discussed over and over the last two weeks, but I can only remember the time he stood there and looked at the exact pitch that everybody else on the planet knew was coming. Sigh.

Ceetar Oct 12 2013 06:40 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

I'd like to point out that Babe Ruth once ended a World Series by getting thrown out stealing second. (Against the Cardinals!)

Frayed Knot Oct 12 2013 07:24 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

[Joe]But none of Beltran's post-season stuff counts because none of it happened in New York[/Benigno]

Edgy MD Oct 12 2013 07:31 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Bob Meusel had swung and missed on the play, so I'm going to think it was maybe a failed hit and run, and the onus of the failure then would be on Meusel. Besides, Ruth had promised a sick kid a homerun in game four, and after coming through on that promise with not one, not two, but three homeruns, the kid's condition miraculously improved. I love Carlos Beltran, but call me when his post season play reaches the level where it has the power to heal. Plus, you want post-season heroics. That series was all about Grover Cleveland Alexander, Rogers Hornsby's faith in him, and the power of human redemption.

Ceetar Oct 12 2013 07:43 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

I think there's a quote about Ruth saying he didn't think they could get two hits behind him so he needed to get to second where one hit could drive him in. Anyway, Beltran's lack of WS prowess is only because of the two rounds to get there and it's a team game. Like last night, like 2006 game 1, there's only so many games he can win by himself.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 12 2013 08:39 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Edgy MD wrote: Bob Meusel had swung and missed on the play, so I'm going to think it was maybe a failed hit and run, and the onus of the failure then would be on Meusel. Besides, Ruth had promised a sick kid a homerun in game four, and after coming through on that promise with not one, not two, but three homeruns, the kid's condition miraculously improved. See, but judging by his career average, Ruth also likely gave, like, five evenin'-ladies the clap that same night. Alexander, too. Things balance out, y'know? Speaking of balance... say, d'you know who's pretty judicious and excellent at baserunning, especially-- but not exclusively-- in the playoffs? Oh, I know you know, buddy. But give someone else a chance to contribute, willya? [Gently chin-chucks greatest postseason hitter of all-time] [Feels breathing and blood pressure improve, purely by coincidence]

G-Fafif Oct 12 2013 08:53 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

I wonder if anybody else in baseball or professional sports history is so renowned as a postseason player yet has had as many as three separate bids to move into the championship round halted in the seventh and deciding game of the semi-final round -- with three different teams, no less, while (as of yet) not finding his way in on a subsequent occasion.

Ceetar Oct 12 2013 12:49 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

G-Fafif wrote: I wonder if anybody else in baseball or professional sports history is so renowned as a postseason player yet has had as many as three separate bids to move into the championship round halted in the seventh and deciding game of the semi-final round -- with three different teams, no less, while (as of yet) not finding his way in on a subsequent occasion. all three series featured the Cardinals too.

themetfairy Oct 12 2013 01:09 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

smg58 wrote: Beltran's history of postseason success has been discussed over and over the last two weeks, but I can only remember the time he stood there and looked at the exact pitch that everybody else on the planet knew was coming. Sigh. Me too....

Edgy MD Oct 12 2013 03:12 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

I'm confused at how everybody on the planet was supposed to know it's coming.

Zvon Oct 12 2013 04:47 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Holy smokes. Speed gun said 99 but that looked like 199 mph.

HahnSolo Oct 12 2013 04:50 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Me too. Meanwhile Doyers leave StL down 2-0 in games started by Greinke and Kershaw.

Zvon Oct 12 2013 04:52 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Dodgers have a big hill to climb now. Damn Cardinals. I like the Cards jersey that says St. Louis. Funny to wear them at home but that's kool.

Gwreck Oct 12 2013 05:55 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Edgy MD wrote: I'm confused at how everybody on the planet was supposed to know it's coming. Exactly. The even more riddiculous part is that had he swung, the likely result would have been the same. He was such a great player, and that's all you want to remember? Your loss.

HahnSolo Oct 12 2013 07:27 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

I guess those who feel that way about Beltran also define Cliff Floyd's career by his at bat in that same inning where he got caught looking with 2 on and nobody out, right?

Mets – Willets Point Oct 12 2013 08:47 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Losing the first two on the road is not the death knell for the Dodgers.

metirish Oct 12 2013 08:49 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Outside of Mets fans who else cares about that game?, hard to believe it was 7 seasons ago.

Frayed Knot Oct 13 2013 06:25 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Cardinals with 9 hits total (6 of them singles) and 6 walks through 22 innings -- and yet lead the series 2-0 Helps that the Dodgers, who have 14 hits (11 singles) and 7 walks over that same span, are 1-for-16 w/RiSP. That one hit --Uribe's 3rd inning/2-out/bases-loaded single-- accounts for both their runs.

Ashie62 Oct 13 2013 04:33 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Mattingly looks lost...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 14 2013 06:13 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 14 2013 06:31 PM

So, now, after the Joe Kelly plunking in Game 1, Hanley Ramirez may only be moving at half-jogging speed for the rest of the series.

Zvon Oct 14 2013 06:26 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

He puts things in the books too early.

Zvon Oct 14 2013 07:24 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

I love a hot dog when he's hot.

Mets – Willets Point Oct 14 2013 07:27 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Chuck Yeager broke the sound barrier with broken ribs. Perhaps Ramirez can turn to him for advice.

Frayed Knot Oct 14 2013 07:31 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Zvon wrote: I love a hot dog when he's hot. Yeah but, contrary to what Cal said, Puig didn't get to 3rd because he chose to "turn it on", he got there on account of the ball bouncing away from Beltran.

Frayed Knot Oct 14 2013 07:34 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

First rule of pinch-running: Don't run worse than the guy you're replacing is likely to have done.

Zvon Oct 14 2013 07:38 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

A stupid way to squelch your own rally.

Zvon Oct 14 2013 07:41 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

See, us regular human beings can't even get up after a triple, no less celebrate at the plate on the way and also pulling up at 3rd.

Frayed Knot Oct 14 2013 07:44 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

One thing I've noticed, not just from tonight but from watching the Cardinals over this sustained stretch: Jon Jay isn't as good a CF as I thought. Not that he's a bad fielder or anything, but he doesn't have the speed you like to see from a real go-get-em CF and he's probably made more judgement mistakes over the last week and a half than Lagares did all year. ... and now the Dodgers waste the lead-off triple anyway.

Mets – Willets Point Oct 14 2013 07:48 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 14 2013 08:22 PM

Not a strong centerfielder, perhaps, but the Federalist Papers are righteous.

Ceetar Oct 14 2013 07:57 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Mets – Willets Point wrote: Not a strong centerfielder, perhaps, the Federalist Papers are righteous. well, he's probably on furlong.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 14 2013 08:15 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Kuo Vadis? If you're a Cardinal, going to sit down, most likely. The big guy's through 7, with just four baserunners allowed, nary a scoring-position threat among 'em.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 14 2013 08:17 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Wainwright's Duke of Charleston is still nasty. Puig? Nastier.

Zvon Oct 14 2013 08:26 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

I'm gonna start a new tradition as a followup to the 7th inning stretch. The 8th inning chuckle.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 14 2013 08:34 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Beardy's fastball is as under-his-command as his beard is out of it.

Zvon Oct 14 2013 08:44 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

whoa, good call!

Zvon Oct 14 2013 08:47 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Shut up Cal, he's safe, good call.

Mets – Willets Point Oct 14 2013 09:00 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Yadier Bleepin' is the Cardinals last hope.

Mets – Willets Point Oct 14 2013 09:02 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

The home team wins again.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 14 2013 09:04 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Yay, kinda.

Zvon Oct 14 2013 09:12 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Yea. Good baseball. Limited games left. They are making it easy to enjoy em.

MFS62 Oct 14 2013 09:13 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

A paraphrase from Orel Hersheiser, doing color on the radiocast, "Carl Crawford has no baseball instincts, especially base running." Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 15 2013 10:56 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Look out, Braves-- there's a new Fun Police on the job. "Mickey Mouse stuff," Adam Wainwright called it. "Mickey Mouse is only an hour away," Gonzalez responded. And... oh, Carlos. "As a player, I just think he doesn't know [about how to act]," Beltran said. "That's what I think. He really doesn't know. He must think that he's still playing somewhere else.

Vic Sage Oct 15 2013 11:04 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

The key point here is: If anything, Puig should come in for censure from his own teammates. He admired his home run, which is inexcusable if it's anywhere close to not leaving the yard. This one didn't, and if not for Beltran misplaying the carom in right, Puig could have cost his team an extra base or even an out. "Obviously, I'd like to see him run right away," Don Mattingly said. It was a clear fuckup, but not a disrespectful one, and the Cardinals should hope he does it every time. That should be the issue here, and Beltran could have prevented Puig's histrionics by making a clean play and throwing the fucker out at 3b. I don't have much use for the chronic me-ism of the current ballplayer, showboating being just one indicator of it, but i have even less use for those who bitch and moan about violations of the "unwritten rules" instead of just outplaying the arrogant selfish pricks and beating them on the field with the kind of professionalism they claim to prefer. If Puig can't cheer, then Beltran can't whine if he fails to throw him out. How's that for an unwritten rule?

Mets – Willets Point Oct 15 2013 11:06 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

If the Dodgers keep pissing off these joyless scolds, I might start to like them.

metsmarathon Oct 15 2013 11:18 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

additional quotes from beltran shed perhaps more light on his opinion... "When you try to do those things sometimes, you know, you get that attention," Beltran said. "And you don't want to wake up nobody. I always thought if you hit a home run off a pitcher, you've got to make him believe he made a mistake. You don't wake him up. Or next time, the pitcher's going to be more focused with you and he's going to try harder to get you out. "So he will learn. I don't think he's a bad kid. I just think he doesn't know right now." ... and for what it's worth, i think it's valid, if if does somewhat feed into a sports cliche. don't give the opponent bulletin board material, or they'll try extra super hard to beat you. instead of the only just kinda trying to win that they're doing now, in the playoffs, i guess....

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 15 2013 11:18 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Not for nothing but the whole Deadpin take on these stories is about as "coppy" as the behavior it seeks to condemn. It's not hard to see one can play spirited and like a sportsman at the same time.

Edgy MD Oct 15 2013 11:20 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Yeah, but Earth needs villains.

G-Fafif Oct 15 2013 12:22 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Disgraces! (Please read the disclaimer at the top carefully.)

Edgy MD Oct 15 2013 12:44 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Vic Sage wrote: The key point here is: If anything, Puig should come in for censure from his own teammates. He admired his home run, which is inexcusable if it's anywhere close to not leaving the yard. This one didn't, and if not for Beltran misplaying the carom in right, Puig could have cost his team an extra base or even an out. "Obviously, I'd like to see him run right away," Don Mattingly said. It was a clear fuckup, but not a disrespectful one, and the Cardinals should hope he does it every time. That should be the issue here, and Beltran could have prevented Puig's histrionics by making a clean play and throwing the fucker out at 3b. I don't have much use for the chronic me-ism of the current ballplayer, showboating being just one indicator of it, but i have even less use for those who bitch and moan about violations of the "unwritten rules" instead of just outplaying the arrogant selfish pricks and beating them on the field with the kind of professionalism they claim to prefer. If Puig can't cheer, then Beltran can't whine if he fails to throw him out. How's that for an unwritten rule? You totally ruin it by writing it. GUH!

Ashie62 Oct 15 2013 07:25 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

A bunch of millionaire ballplayers with unwritten rules of etiquette...sounds abit fey...

Zvon Oct 15 2013 07:27 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

We got game.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 15 2013 07:29 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

It's a testament to what we've seen so far this postseason-- and LCS-wise, specifically-- that it feels more than a little bit weird seeing starters that actually, like, give up hits and runs and stuff.

Zvon Oct 15 2013 08:10 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Nothing like a double play when you need it. Seeing Mattingly- I forgot he never got to the big show. It be nice if he does as a manager.

Zvon Oct 15 2013 08:26 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Jeez, another homer off the top of an outfield wall. That walls got a really thick top there.

Mets – Willets Point Oct 15 2013 08:28 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Maybe if the Dodgers win they'll celebrate by peeing in the Anheuser-Busch beer in St. Louis. No one will notice the difference

Zvon Oct 15 2013 08:41 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

So nine months after your birthday, you're an old 22. PINTO BURNS EM!

Zvon Oct 15 2013 08:42 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

THEY BURN PINTO!

Frayed Knot Oct 15 2013 08:42 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

If I were Mattingly I'd be Punto-ing Punto's ass all over the dugout right now.

Zvon Oct 15 2013 08:45 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Frayed Knot wrote: If I were Mattingly I'd be Punto-ing Punto's ass all over the dugout right now. Ugh, that was bad. He knows it.

Mets – Willets Point Oct 15 2013 09:05 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

This game could use a Dodgers walk-off, just to keep the Cardinals from getting uppity.

Frayed Knot Oct 15 2013 09:09 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

I'm becoming in favor of a rule change where the manager/pitching coach gets one free visit to the mound per game and then each successive trip to the mound requires a pitching change. As it is now the bench is allowed one trip per inning which, under current conditions, can mean 8-10 trips per game as each reliever used gets two visits: one for strategy/stalling and one for removal. I realize that this would probably just result in increased visits to the mound by catchers instead whenever they wanted to stall, but it would at least be a start.

Frayed Knot Oct 15 2013 09:15 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

I'm becoming in favor of a rule change where the manager/pitching coach gets one free visit to the mound per game and then each successive trip to the mound requires a pitching change. As it is now the bench is allowed one trip per inning which, under current conditions, can mean 8-10 trips per game as each reliever used gets two visits: one for strategy/stalling and one for removal. I realize that this would probably just result in increased visits to the mound by catchers instead whenever they wanted to stall, but it would at least be a start. My alternative idea is a sniper on the roof picking off relievers who refuse to throw more than one pitch per minute. Marmol would have been mortally wounded about seven batters ago.

Zvon Oct 15 2013 09:20 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

I'm becoming in favor of a rule change where the manager/pitching coach gets one free visit to the mound per game and then each successive trip to the mound requires a pitching change. As it is now the bench is allowed one trip per inning which, under current conditions, can mean 8-10 trips per game as each reliever used gets two visits: one for strategy/stalling and one for removal. I realize that this would probably just result in increased visits to the mound by catchers instead whenever they wanted to stall, but it would at least be a start. My alternative idea is a sniper on the roof picking off relievers who refuse to throw more than one pitch per minute. Marmol would have been mortally wounded about seven batters ago. I thought the rule was a pitcher had 20 seconds.

Frayed Knot Oct 15 2013 09:24 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Zvon wrote: I thought the rule was a pitcher had 20 seconds. It's actually 12 seconds ... but - that's only with the bases empty AND - it's never enforced

Zvon Oct 15 2013 09:24 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

That's life Puig. Get used to it.

Frayed Knot Oct 15 2013 09:25 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

It's a good thing Puig celebrated that triple so hard yesterday because I think that was his only hit this week.

Zvon Oct 15 2013 09:25 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Frayed Knot wrote: Zvon wrote: I thought the rule was a pitcher had 20 seconds. It's actually 12 seconds ... but - that's only with the bases empty AND - it's never enforced The game needs a timekeeper. Cards make Dodgers blue!

Frayed Knot Oct 15 2013 09:26 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Cards have scored a total of EIGHT runs over four games yet have a 3-1 lead.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 15 2013 09:38 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Stupid Dodgers getting what they deserve, and they don't deserve anything. Those 2 innings from Withrow were probably the worst 2 scoreless innings I've seen all year. Dumb guys getting picked off 2nd, hitting into DPs on 2-0 counts. Hell with 'em.

MFS62 Oct 15 2013 09:40 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

IIRC, Charlie Finley once installed a clock (when the A's were in Kansas City) to show the time between pitches and MLB made him take it down. Later

Mets – Willets Point Oct 15 2013 09:47 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Going down 1-3 makes Juan Uribe sad.

MFS62 Oct 16 2013 05:59 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

It ain't over 'till the movie stars cry. Later

Mets – Willets Point Oct 16 2013 02:21 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Bases loaded with Cardinals against Greinke but Yadier F. Molina grounds into a double play and no runs score.

Zvon Oct 16 2013 02:23 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Mets – Willets Point wrote: Bases loaded with Cardinals against Greinke but Yadier F. Molina grounds into a double play and no runs score. Nice to see that other teams besides the Mets can do what the Cards just did. That should pump up the Dodgers.

Mets – Willets Point Oct 16 2013 02:26 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

The Dodgers need to let the dancing bear come back if they want to win.

Zvon Oct 16 2013 02:58 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

When a pitcher drives in a run, it might be his day. LA up 2-0 after 2.

Zvon Oct 16 2013 03:21 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Or it might not be. I missed all that scoring. Gah. Beltraan? 2-2.

Zvon Oct 16 2013 03:29 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Or maybe I was right....3-2 Blue.

Zvon Oct 16 2013 03:58 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Crawford. 4-2.

Mets – Willets Point Oct 16 2013 05:33 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Series returns to St. Loo. I still predict Dodgers in 7.

bmfc1 Oct 18 2013 11:00 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Holy crap: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ml ... s/3005639/ The Cardinals' mission is clear: Beat the Dodgers, and send them back to Disneyland, where their escapades can be appreciated. The Cardinals will take the stage at the World Series, representing the National League, and reminding the baseball world that old-school tradition remains alive and well. "This is a big responsibility,'' Matheny says, "we've got a lot to take care of.''

Mets – Willets Point Oct 18 2013 02:26 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

This hot shot show off would never pass muster in St. Louis. Oh wait....

Mets – Willets Point Oct 18 2013 02:32 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

"Remain calm, folks! Remain calm! The Cardinals have won the game and it will be celebrated in restrained and dignified manner." - Jack Buck

Zvon Oct 18 2013 06:38 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

That was new.

Mets – Willets Point Oct 18 2013 06:45 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Cardinals fans boo Adrian Gonzalez in a polite and refine manner. They didn't even need prompting from the scoreboard.

Mets – Willets Point Oct 18 2013 06:59 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

The best player in postseason history doubles but is stranded by his red bird brethren.

Zvon Oct 18 2013 07:42 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

2-0, gah, missed last few. Beltraan again?! Oh, and Molina and it's still going on.

Zvon Oct 18 2013 07:46 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

That's it Puig. Allow em to blow it open.

Zvon Oct 18 2013 07:54 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

I like the way Ronnie pauses in between words when he wants to drive home a point with dramatic effect.

d'Kong76 Oct 18 2013 08:05 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

I never really thought about it until seeing the Oz.gif ... but if some pond scum Met ever behaved like that a lot of people would be all over his acrobatic ass for being too showy or whatever. I had Cards in six. Go Redbirds!

Zvon Oct 18 2013 08:14 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Meh, I've seen better catches. I've seen him make better catches. It didn't suck.

Zvon Oct 18 2013 08:16 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Puig is gonna make such a great scapegoat.

Zvon Oct 18 2013 08:19 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

This is all Kershaw though. He's pitching like poop. Watcha's quietly pitching a 1 hitter. Adams doubles in the 5th Redbird run.

Frayed Knot Oct 18 2013 08:30 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Dodgers have been amazingly inept. - Puig has misplayed or mis-thrown three balls - Gozalez dropped a relay throw on Puig's short throw - Kershaw wasn't backing up his long one - they botched the run-down and almost lost the out - Ellis had either a DP ball or a play at home and got neither Oh yeah, and their pitching and hitting suxx too. And now throw in the always popular triple tag-up play.

Zvon Oct 18 2013 08:35 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Jeeze, this one's over. Fkn Cards. Ruining my dramatic and exciting post season.

d'Kong76 Oct 18 2013 08:35 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

And Donnie Baseball can't manage. (cheap shot, 9-sniffle)

MFS62 Oct 18 2013 08:47 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

If you believe that baseball is a thinking fan's sport as I do, shut off the tv sound and listen to the radiocast. Orel Hersheiser is doing excellent color commentary, letting us know not just what pitch was thrown (any color analyst can do that by reading the monitor) but why it was thrown and what it might be setting up one or two pitches later. Fascinating stuff from inside a pitcher's (and catcher's) head. Later

d'Kong76 Oct 18 2013 09:18 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

The radio and tv are always off here, sometimes by five or six seconds. Mattingly looking old and worn out.

d'Kong76 Oct 18 2013 09:42 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Funny, I was thinking as I watch the Cards celebrate ... will the Mets ever again? Then I look up at thread title and jeez I feel unhappy unhappy joyless joyless

Zvon Oct 18 2013 09:45 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Gonna be tough to get into this world series with the Cards rep'n the N.L. I'm happy for Beltraan and all dat shit but...I disliked the Cards well before Carlos got there. I do wish Beltran well but I think I'll be rooting for an A.L. team this year. That stand-off business was wacky and I like that. Not enough spontaneous craziness in baseball anymore.

dinosaur jesus Oct 18 2013 10:14 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

I like both AL teams. I'd be happy to root for either of them. It's funny--for some reason I want the Red Sox to beat the Tigers, but I'd be more excited if the Tigers won the Series. It's hard to say why I don't like the Cardinals. Their players seem fine, and I'm fond of the city, where I lived for nine years. Maybe I'm just tired of them. Or that red is too cheery, in an Up with People, turn that frown upside down sort of way.

G-Fafif Oct 18 2013 10:45 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

The important thing is somebody lost this series at least.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 19 2013 05:10 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

Dodgers suck. Thing is, so do the Cardinals. Our league is letting us down.

Mets – Willets Point Oct 19 2013 05:10 AM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

I wish the Dodgers and Cards could both lose and Red Sox and Tigers could both win.

Edgy MD Oct 21 2013 12:46 PM Re: Unhappy, Unhappy, Joyless, Joyless: Threading the NLCS

How about Frankie Frisch's old number still available for Beltran to grab? Played pretty much half his career there, but you know, still.