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It was forty years ago today ...
Frayed Knot Sep 17 2013 11:16 AM |
... that YOUR 4th place Mets opened a big Five game series with the 1st place (although only 2 games above .500) Pirates.
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Zvon Sep 17 2013 03:34 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
This was a weird series because the first 2 games were played in Pittsburg and the last three at Shea without a break in between.
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Frayed Knot Sep 18 2013 07:34 AM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
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Yup! After Harrelson grounded out to start the 9th with the Mets down 4-1, seven straight Mets reached base and they had scored five times before the smoke cleared. Beauchamp (pinch-hitting for Kranepool) - Single Garrett - Double Millan - 2-RBI Triple Staub - Walk Hodges (PH-ing for Dyer who was PH-ing for McGraw) - RBI Single -- Teddy Martinez pinch-runs Cleon - Walk Hahn - 2-RBI Single Still some drama to come in the bottom of the inning. Apodaca was brought in to close after McGraw's 2 scoreless innings but immediately walked the first two hitters. Out went Dac and in came Buzz Capra who got an out on a bunt and then a run-scoring out on a grounder. Then after intentionally walking Stargell (4 XBHs the night before) and UNintentionally walking Richie Zisk, Buzz got Manny Sanguillen on a bases-loaded Fly Out to end the game. Mets till in 4th at the end of the day but had closed to just 2.5 out.
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Edgy MD Sep 18 2013 07:44 AM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
Jim Beauchamp is the hinge of history.
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Frayed Knot Sep 19 2013 07:04 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
The unusual five-game series shifts to Shea and the Mets ride 2 Cleon Jones HRs and 5 RBIs to a 7--3 win.
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Zvon Sep 19 2013 08:17 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
Damn. 40 years.
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Vic Sage Sep 19 2013 09:15 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
just remove the first period and observe the power of punctuation.
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Frayed Knot Sep 21 2013 07:46 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
I was late in getting around yesterday to reviewing the September 20th game in 1973 and by the time I was about to Gary had done a much better job of summing it up than I could have AND he had the video to go along with it.
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Zvon Sep 21 2013 09:33 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
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Did he do that tonight? Damn u motherfkin comcast! Damn u all to hellll! Yea, now I gotta watch it. Kool.
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Frayed Knot Sep 21 2013 10:04 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
Gary recapped and chatted about the Sept 20th game during Friday's telecast.
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Zvon Sep 21 2013 10:26 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
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Glad you told me. I can call up that game. Just about to see the play at the plate with Brown.
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Frayed Knot Sep 22 2013 04:56 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
[u:u4dsyqtl]September 22nd, 1973[/u:u4dsyqtl]
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RealityChuck Sep 22 2013 08:48 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
I remember Garrett turning into a superstar that September. Baseball Reference gives him a slash line of .323/.411/.604.
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Zvon Sep 22 2013 09:02 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
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And he did. He and Tugger powered a lot of will.
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Frayed Knot Sep 22 2013 09:24 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
I had noticed Garrett's name popping up a lot as I've been reviewing these games.
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dinosaur jesus Sep 22 2013 10:06 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
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I wonder if he'd have been better off as a middle infielder. His glove was good enough (for second, anyway), and his offense would have stood out more. As a third baseman, he always seemed just not quite good enough (which was obviously what the Mets were thinking when they traded for Fregosi). But that perception might have been very different if he'd been a second baseman. I remember Ralph saying once that "Wayne Garrett's got what they call charisma." And I guess he did.
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batmagadanleadoff Sep 22 2013 10:36 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
Without looking anything up and just going by old memories, I remember Garrett as being awesome in Sept. '73. Which might turn out to be not so true, but I sorta remember it that way. I played the 1975 Strat-O-Matic set and Garrett was a walking machine that season. Among Mets with 2,000+ AB's he ranks 11th all-time in OBP. Tom Seaver spoke highly of Garrett and was convinced that he'd be an all- star someday.
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Frayed Knot Sep 23 2013 06:30 AM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
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From Chuck's post above: "Baseball Reference gives him a slash line [in September '73] of .323/.411/.604."
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Edgy MD Sep 23 2013 07:50 AM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
They were always looking for a leadoff hitter and a thirdbaseman and maybe with a little more attention to the bird in hand, they might've realized they had both those things all along.
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Mets – Willets Point Sep 23 2013 08:00 AM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
I was in the womb so I missed out on this the first time around.
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Vic Sage Sep 23 2013 09:52 AM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
I remember `73 as being the September when Rusty grabbing the team by its collective and metaphorical hair and dragged it into the post-season, and almost beating Oakland with 1 arm tied behind his back.
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Frayed Knot Sep 23 2013 10:08 AM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
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Garrett tallied nearly 1/4 of his career PAs in the leadoff spot and hit there more than any other single slot - so even the cretins in the pre-Sabremetric era couldn't have been totally unaware of his OBA skills. I guess the bigger question is why those skills and his career had all petered right around the time he should have been hitting his prime.
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Edgy MD Sep 23 2013 10:56 AM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
Well, I don't think anybody was a cretin, but him grabbing one appearance for him in four suggests the team itself never really took him seriously enough to use him there regularly in any season. That they continually tried (and falied) to displace him at third (Foy, Apromonte, Fregosi) says more.
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Chad Ochoseis Sep 23 2013 12:25 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
Foy was another low-BA, high-OBP guy. For all the criticism he took, that OBP of .373 in 1970 doesn't look bad at all.
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Edgy MD Sep 23 2013 02:46 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
Yeah, his walk rate was Wes Westrumesque. He and Wayno might have made an effective platoon.
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Zvon Sep 23 2013 03:26 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
I always liked Garrett. He was like a Justin Turner, only better. And he was used more. He could play all infield positions well, hit, run, slide..I couldn't understand why he wasn't an everyday player. I never saw him do anything wrong and that's something. IIRC he also kicked major ass vs. the Braves in the '69 NLCS.
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Edgy MD Sep 23 2013 03:58 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
I've long thought of Garrett and Donn Clendennon pretty much make up the totality of Johnny Murphy's stewardship of the Mets, personnel-wise, but maybe that's unfair. It's hard to tell what happened in the fall of 1967 that had Bing Devine's DNA on it or Murphy's.
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Frayed Knot Sep 23 2013 05:44 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
September 23rd, 1973 -- 2nd of the two-game series vs the Cards at Shea
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Zvon Sep 23 2013 07:02 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
I remember seeing Agee make a diving catch playing for the Cards. It was on TV at a friends house, not sure if it was a Met game or a Game of the Week thing. So he makes this lunging skidding diving catch in right-center ( 99% sure this was on artificial turf) that looked like a carbon copy of his second 69 series catch, only it wasn't near the track. It was in from the track by quite a bit. I always thought that had to have happened in '72 but it couldn't have. Had to be 73.
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G-Fafif Sep 25 2013 06:29 AM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
Postgame show is on!
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 25 2013 07:27 AM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
That was great. Lindsey got me darn excited.
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batmagadanleadoff Sep 26 2013 08:46 AM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
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I went to that game. The Mets gave out coffee mugs with the Mets logo and a sticker with a player's autograph -- and not just the stars and popular players. Some of the mugs had Duffy Dyer's autograph. I think that just about every Met was represented. I got two mugs -- a Willie Mays and a Tug McGraw.
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Zvon Sep 26 2013 01:05 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
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This is a great listen :)
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Frayed Knot Sep 26 2013 03:18 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
Yes, I’d like to thank Steve Albert for filling in on our 1973 review.
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Zvon Sep 26 2013 04:54 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
179 Innings! Yikes. 14 wins yea but I forgot he had 11 losses. 200 in relief that next year?! What a freak.
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Frayed Knot Sep 27 2013 03:44 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
No Mets game today (Thurs, Sept 27th) but the only two NL games that were played that day both involved the teams remaining alive in the NL East race.
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Zvon Sep 27 2013 05:06 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
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These were the most exciting, tense, nervous, hopeful, and awesome games I ever experienced as a Met fan. I wanted them to win soooooooo bad.
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Frayed Knot Sep 28 2013 08:59 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
Another day with no game for the Mets - rained out in Chicago.
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Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 06:45 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
Thank you, Al Oliver, for the boot.
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Frayed Knot Sep 29 2013 08:52 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
And on Saturday the 29th ... the Mets are again rained out, making it the 3rd day in a row with no NYM game.
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Zvon Sep 29 2013 08:55 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
This is great FK because I forgot these details.
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Zvon Sep 30 2013 01:14 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
Rains stopped :)
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Frayed Knot Sep 30 2013 01:44 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
Yes they did - long enough at least for the Mets to get in a Double-Header in Wrigley Field on Sunday, September 30th
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Frayed Knot Oct 01 2013 05:03 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
Monday, October 1st
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Zvon Oct 01 2013 05:59 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
Very well told.
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Edgy MD Oct 02 2013 07:22 AM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
On a cold and wet October morn
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Frayed Knot Oct 02 2013 07:31 AM Re: It was forty years ago today ... Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 02 2013 12:49 PM |
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A teacher in school (Mr. O'Sullivan IIRC) commandeered a TV - so I was able to catch at least part of this including the end.
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G-Fafif Oct 02 2013 10:04 AM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
[youtube:xvg05an3]VseFNzVB0mA[/youtube:xvg05an3]
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Zvon Oct 02 2013 03:28 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
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I was attending Cathedral Prep at the time, just a few blocks away from Macys, next to Newtown Field. There were some kool teachers there but not that kool. Macys looked like this in those days.
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Zvon Oct 02 2013 03:41 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
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" They're a tough team to follow because you have to have a stomach made of cast iron and a brain with a....well, forget about the brain part." lol. The Seaver being tired stuff was interesting.
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Edgy MD Oct 02 2013 06:11 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
He seemed to have trouble finishing a lot of thoughts.
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Frayed Knot Oct 06 2013 08:50 AM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
Saturday, October 6th, 1973
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G-Fafif Oct 07 2013 07:37 AM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
[youtube]FK3tklU31MY[/youtube]
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Frayed Knot Oct 07 2013 06:53 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
Thanks for doing the heavy lifting on this one Al.
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Frayed Knot Oct 08 2013 10:15 AM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
Monday, October 8th, 1973
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G-Fafif Oct 08 2013 10:21 AM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
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batmagadanleadoff Oct 08 2013 10:21 AM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
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This also happened in Game 3... [youtube]CDkRC520-iY[/youtube]
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Frayed Knot Oct 09 2013 03:14 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
October 9th, 1973
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Zvon Oct 09 2013 05:48 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
This was a very nerve wracking game. Rose's homer took so much out of the crowd. Him running the bases swinging a fist up in the air. I'll never forget that. After the game 3 fight and bad behavior of one stupid Met fan who, sitting in the mezzanine section right up back behind me, threw a big liquor bottle.
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Frayed Knot Oct 09 2013 06:11 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
And then there was the scene with Rusty, Mays, and maybe one or two others, walking out to LF pleading with the crowd to calm down so they could finish the game.
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G-Fafif Oct 10 2013 02:20 PM Re: It was forty years ago today ... |
[youtube:u828ff1t]6rVaDhTnagQ[/youtube:u828ff1t]
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