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Wilfredo Tovar

Edgy MD
Sep 19 2013 10:06 AM

Strikes me as one of those guys Paul DePodesta thinks of as a stealth prospect, a la Juan Lagares, Climbing through the system with minimum fanfare but has the defensive skills to land now, but brass thinks the offensive ability is in there, if not yet discovered after a year and a half at Bingy.

Probably isn't ready (no AAA), but probably as worthy of hope for improvement as Tejada.

Vic Sage
Sep 19 2013 11:30 AM
Re: Wilfredo Tovar

...as worthy of hope for improvement as Tejada.


no need to be insulting.

Zvon
Sep 19 2013 11:33 AM
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Does he deliver the paper?

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 19 2013 11:35 AM
Re: Wilfredo Tovar

Turned 22 last month. Played 133 games at Binghamton. .263/.323/.340 with 14 doubles, 4 triples, 4 homers in 486 plate appearances. Stole 12 bases, caught 7 times.

Yeah, what the hell. Put him in the mix.

Edgy MD
Sep 19 2013 11:52 AM
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Rob Castellano is quite bullish on him, and he's not the only guy. There's like a very small cult of Tovar out there.

Frayed Knot
Sep 19 2013 12:23 PM
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If he truly possesses "an extraordinary glove" as the linked piece claims and turns out to be no worse than a contact hitter with low-Ks and little power, it's not like he would be a step down from Tejada.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 19 2013 12:28 PM
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Only, a step up from Tejada would be nice.

Still, I didn't know till today how well regarded this guy's glove was. Nice thing to have I guess.

Edgy MD
Sep 19 2013 12:32 PM
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And in fairness, a lot of those lynx I provided weren't exactly written yesterday.

Ashie62
Sep 19 2013 04:54 PM
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What a year for Ruben...oye...

metirish
Sep 20 2013 07:03 AM
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Jay Horwitz ?@Jay_HorwitzPR

Wilfredo Tovar will become the first Met to wear No.70 tonight in Philly. His family admired former. NYG,MLB Sam Huff,who also wore 70.

Ashie62
Sep 20 2013 10:15 AM
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Is his father Cesar Tovar???

themetfairy
Sep 20 2013 10:54 AM
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Wilfredo playing with the B-Mets in Trenton this past June -

Edgy MD
Sep 20 2013 12:09 PM
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Named the best defensive infielder in the Mets' system three years running.

Ashie62
Sep 20 2013 01:33 PM
Re: Wilfredo Tovar

He doesn't hit much for sure...longggshot...

Edgy MD
Sep 20 2013 02:10 PM
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A longshot for what? He's already a big leaguer, jumping from AA, no less, leapfrogging the likes of Hicks, Bixler, and Sandoval.

We should all be such longshots.

dinosaur jesus
Sep 20 2013 02:57 PM
Re: Wilfredo Tovar

Welcome, Tovarisch.

Frayed Knot
Sep 20 2013 03:38 PM
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metirish wrote:
Jay Horwitz ?@Jay_HorwitzPR

Wilfredo Tovar will become the first Met to wear No.70 tonight in Philly. His family admired former. NYG/MLB Sam Huff, who also wore 70.


Huff was always huge in Venezuela.
From the way I hear it the guy couldn't eat dinner at a sidewalk cafe in Caracas without being constantly interrupted by fans.

Ashie62
Sep 20 2013 04:32 PM
Re: Wilfredo Tovar

Edgy MD wrote:
A longshot for what? He's already a big leaguer, jumping from AA, no less, leapfroggnig the likes of Hicks, Bixler, and Sandoval.

We should all be such longshots.


Please...your killing me...

they are all longshots coming up... at 22 he is late for AA

Edgy MD
Sep 20 2013 04:47 PM
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I'm sorry to kill you. Let's discuss before you die.

Longshot for what? Longshot to ever play again play beyond the next 10 days? Longshot to start regularly? Longshot to be an All Star? Longshot to be included in special edition of baseball cards that make the editors of Beckett Almanac plotz?

The median age of ballplayers in AA is 24. The average age of ballplayers in the Eastern League is 24.2 This guy just turned 22 on August 11, so he played most of the season as a 21-year-old. He's been young for his leagues most of his career. And of course, he's not in AA anymore, as he's graduated to the big leagues. So whatever his issues, being too old certainly isn't one of them.

Ashie62
Sep 20 2013 05:09 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
I'm sorry to kill you. Let's discuss before you die.

Longshot for what? Longshot to ever play again play beyond the next 10 days? Longshot to start regularly? Longshot to be an All Star? Longshot to be included in special edition of baseball cards that make the editors of Beckett Almanac plotz?

The median age of ballplayers in AA is 24. The average age of ballplayers in the Eastern League is 24.2 This guy just turned 22 on August 11, so he played most of the season as a 21-year-old. He's been young for his leagues most of his career. And of course, he's not in AA anymore, as he's graduated to the big leagues. So whatever his issues, being too old certainly isn't one of them.


How about a longshot to get enough MLB service time to be vested.

I don't see anything on his minor league lines hitting wise to show hit might hit enough to stick for much more than a cup of coffee at some point.

Maybe my brain is addled by dreaming of Troy Tulowitzki, a real MLB all-star! to come and play SS for the Mets..

No offense intended to Edgy of Wilfredo Tovar.. I need a drink..

And we all lived!

Edgy MD
Sep 20 2013 07:52 PM
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So, you concede the too-old thing, then, and you're not gonna die. Cool on both counts.

MFS62
Sep 20 2013 09:01 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
He doesn't hit much for sure...longggshot...

Bud Harrelson never hit more than .251 in the minors, and played 16 years in the majors, hitting under .250.
If Tovar can field as well as some of those reports tell us, he could have a decent major league career.
At shortstop, if you can pick it, you will play.

Later

d'Kong76
Sep 24 2013 07:03 PM
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Getting a better look at this guy on TV, there's no way
he is 22 years old.

Edgy MD
Sep 24 2013 08:22 PM
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He's just homely!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Sep 24 2013 08:26 PM
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His face looks a little melty, like a Kiss you left on the car in summertime.

d'Kong76
Sep 24 2013 08:29 PM
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Thanks guys, but still ...

Edgy MD
Sep 24 2013 08:40 PM
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It'd be pretty embarrassing, and perhaps a little sketchy, if the Mets under Sandy ended up signing a guy who was misrepresenting his age.