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Roster 2014
Edgy MD Sep 29 2013 05:43 PM |
Hard to imagine an opening day as much shrowded in mystery as the Mets are looking at for 2014. The team has a lot of questions, but a lot of leverage as well. An unusually large percentage of the team has options. Only two (two!) have commitments beyond next season. Heck, almost as few have commitments beyond this season (counting the likes of Santana's buyout as a commitment).
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MFS62 Sep 30 2013 06:13 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
Edgy, I just got a small picture.
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Edgy MD Sep 30 2013 07:22 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
Anybody else having trouble seeing the image?
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Ceetar Sep 30 2013 07:32 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
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yes, but the filters here at work are really crappy, so I'm only 50/50 that it's on your end.
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seawolf17 Sep 30 2013 07:33 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
Images okay here. Satin over either Q or Turner, I'd think.
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themetfairy Sep 30 2013 07:34 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
I don't see it.
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HahnSolo Sep 30 2013 08:00 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
Don't see it.
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Edgy MD Sep 30 2013 08:02 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
How sad to know a picture Anthony Recker has been posted but you can't see it.
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Edgy MD Sep 30 2013 08:06 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
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Maybe, but somebody's got to play shortstop.
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Edgy MD Sep 30 2013 08:43 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
Notable is that there is a huge amount of leverage in the bullpen and no small amount in the rotation. Only two relievers don't have options, and Henn is the type that you feel comfortable removing from from the 40, and move on quickly from if he gets claimed on waivers. Even before hitting the marketplace, the team has a handful of guys not yet on the 40 who could end up making the team.
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seawolf17 Sep 30 2013 09:12 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
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Tejada's on your roster. You don't need two backup shortstops. In fact, you can take Satin over Q, Turner or Tejada. SOMEONE needs to be able to hit on the bench.
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Mets – Willets Point Sep 30 2013 09:13 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
I see nothing.
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Edgy MD Sep 30 2013 09:24 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
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Surely you see the image in the latter post.
Well, sure, but (a) it's really not going to shake out this way, (b) Turner remains a very poor shortstop, and (c) Q is on the roster and out of options. Tovar could pass 'em all by opening day. Most likely, you end up with two backup infielders --- one who can field and one who can hit. This look is hardly ideal, but I think an accurate representation of where they line up. If and when Q gets non-rostered, that'll clear up a lot. A lot of guys eligible to get removed from the 40 before they add minor leaguers in anticipation of the Rule V: [list][*]Baxter[/*:m] [*]Brown[/*:m] [*]Carson[/*:m] [*]Centeno[/*:m] [*]Edgin[/*:m] [*]Hefner (can he be removed while injured?)[/*:m] [*]Henn[/*:m] [*]Quintanilla[/*:m] [*]Recker[/*:m] [*]Rice[/*:m] [*]Torres[/*:m][/list:u] Neiuwenhuis, Lutzy, Tejada --- you guys aren't safe either!
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seawolf17 Sep 30 2013 09:27 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
You'll lose Torres and Recker if you expose them, but the others are all expendable. I'd let some other time roll the dice on Rice next year.
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batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2013 09:28 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
I see the word "image". but no image.
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Edgy MD Sep 30 2013 09:29 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
In my 10:02 am post above, there's nothing?
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seawolf17 Sep 30 2013 09:34 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
I see nothing in either of those images, but I see the one in the top post.
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metirish Sep 30 2013 09:35 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
I do not see any images , just little boxes.
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batmagadanleadoff Sep 30 2013 09:38 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
I don't see any images in any of Edgy's posts. I don't see a single image anywhere in this thread.
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Edgy MD Sep 30 2013 09:42 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
Well, there's your VRAM image.
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Edgy MD Sep 30 2013 10:58 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
Frank Francisco would kindly like to inquire if you can see his cherubic face now.
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Mets – Willets Point Sep 30 2013 11:10 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
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Ooh, it's so colorful.
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Benjamin Grimm Sep 30 2013 02:27 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
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Adam Rubin says...
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MFS62 Sep 30 2013 09:53 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
I can see the images now. Thanks. What's the difference between names with blue or (is that orange?) backgrounds? Anything to do with status?
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Edgy MD Oct 01 2013 05:41 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
Orange guys should all have options. But I'm seeing a lot of disagreement about the option stati of Davis and Duda.
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themetfairy Oct 01 2013 05:41 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
Yes, I can also see the image now.
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Ceetar Oct 01 2013 06:23 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
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They specifically brought up Duda when they did to avoid burning the option this year, so he definitely has one. Or was that to delay arbitration? That was Tejada with the year of control stuff right? So many roster machinations going on this year.. As for Davis.. I trust @tpgmets on Twitter. He's usually spot on with this arbitration/options/etc stuff. He tweeted at Rubin about why Davis wouldn't have an option, seeming to think he should, but I don't think he got a response.
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Edgy MD Oct 01 2013 07:26 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
So clarity is not readily available. Hopefully we can get it right in the next update. Let me know if you come across any other clarifications.
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seawolf17 Oct 01 2013 07:41 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
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It's because his career predates free agency, so he was grandfathered out. He's still under the reserve clause.
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Edgy MD Oct 05 2013 01:34 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
And we have our first change.
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MFS62 Oct 07 2013 09:40 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
Here's a list of some players who will be exposed to the Rule V draft unless they are protected by being added to the 40 man roster.
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Edgy MD Oct 08 2013 07:42 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
Guys They Probably Feel They Can Remove Without Sweating:
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Edgy MD Oct 08 2013 07:44 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
On the other hand, what's the point of exposing Hefner? If a team grabs him, they can store him on the DL all season.
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Edgy MD Oct 08 2013 09:36 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
Juan Urbina --- there's a much lauded prospect, but one who hasn't done much of anything yet, and hasn't advanced beyond Brooklyn. Suddenly, he's been around long enough to be Rule V eligible. Do the Mets look to protect him?
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Vic Sage Oct 08 2013 03:38 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
Here is my understanding of the current 40-man roster (48, with 60day-DL guys), and my notes on who we should keep, drop and add:
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MFS62 Oct 08 2013 09:33 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
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Matz missed a lot of time (more than one year?) due to arm surgery. But this year he seemed to have recovered his stuff and should be back on the top prospect lists. I'd keep him. Another guy I'd like to see them keep is Aderlin Rodriguez. http://www.baseball-reference.com/minor ... drig001ade He's shown good power, without a lot of strikeouts, while playing in some pitcher friendly [parks/ leagues. He was hurt this year, and part of the prior year. That may have stopped him from being drafted last year. From his defensive numbers it looks like he would benefit from a full time move to first base. I feel he would be taken early if left exposed to the Rule V draft. He will be playing in the Arizona Fall League. I'm not sure if he will play enough on that shared team to show if he should or shouldn't be kept. Later
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Edgy MD Oct 09 2013 05:07 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
It's not a question of keeping, though. Not adding a guy to your 40-man roster shouldn't be understood as discarding a player, or expressing a disinterest in keeping him.
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MFS62 Oct 09 2013 07:43 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
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By "kept" I meant protected. Just because a player isn't added to the 40 man roster, it doesn't mean he is lost. The article I linked shows several players who were exposed to the Rule V Draft last year, were not taken, and were resigned to minor league contracts to remain in the organization this year. Later
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MFS62 Oct 17 2013 03:32 PM Re: Roster 2014 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 17 2013 03:36 PM |
MF reported about Carson being claimed by the Angels in her "remember" thread, Metsblog also announced that the Mets also announced today that LHP Sean Henn and RHP Greg Burke were outrighted.
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themetfairy Oct 17 2013 03:35 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
Adam Rubin confirms the loss of Baxter
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Frayed Knot Oct 17 2013 04:41 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
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I don't know that it's a written rule so much as it is a request from the Commish's office not to make attention-grabbing moves that would take attention away from playoff baseball. The original incident was, of course, instituted in response to Steinbrenner announcing a hiring (or was it firing?) of Billy Martin on the day of a World Series Game 7 figuring that if his team wasn't good enough to get the headlines in October then he'd bump the WS off the back pages of the newspapers in the largest city in the country with off the field news. Not surprisingly, the Steinbrenner for HoF backers conveniently tend to forget stuff like this when listing his "contributions" to the sport.
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Edgy MD Oct 17 2013 09:22 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
One of the more dramatic parts of this purging is that it really strips down their pitching staff to the bare bones. They are left with exactly 14 pitchers on the roster, and that includes St. Lucie's own Hansel Robles, who I'm adding only to keep a spot warm for whoever they end up bringing in or putting on the roster later.
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Edgy MD Nov 01 2013 09:39 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
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Edgy MD Nov 02 2013 08:56 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
Some guys remain Met property if they're removed from the roster, so long a they clear waivers.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 03 2013 06:28 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
WIth an average age like that, the roster is starting to look like it would have trouble renting a car.
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Edgy MD Nov 05 2013 10:16 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
Minor League Free Agents
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seawolf17 Nov 06 2013 07:34 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
Speaking of failed prospects, Francisco Pena.
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Edgy MD Nov 06 2013 07:51 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
Well, Pena's unerwhelming performance goes well back into the Omar era. In fact, while his failure seemed a fait accompli two years ago, the last two seasons he's shown just enough puncher's power, just enough plate discipline and just enough defensive aptitude to sort of edge back into the picture as at least a potential backup.
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seawolf17 Nov 06 2013 07:55 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
And he's only 23.
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Edgy MD Nov 06 2013 08:26 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
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Edgy MD Nov 09 2013 12:34 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
Meet the newest fringey Met. Don't bother trying to find a wife, fellas. He's single. And ladies, well, he's single.
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MFS62 Nov 09 2013 04:24 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
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Another invitee:
Later
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 09 2013 07:08 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
30 year old Seton Hall guy, switch hitter, played all 4 infield and RF/LF in the minors for the Royals org. Hits singles & draws walks.
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Edgy MD Nov 09 2013 08:18 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
And all that makes it a sobering day for Brian Bixler.
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MFS62 Nov 20 2013 09:53 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
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Later
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metirish Nov 21 2013 08:41 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
New York Mets ?@Mets 10m
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Benjamin Grimm Nov 21 2013 08:47 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
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Edgy MD Nov 21 2013 08:48 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
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Clearly the Wilpons pandering here to Flushing's large Yugoslav-Venezuealan community.
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Edgy MD Nov 22 2013 07:56 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
Well, they're set on outfield defense.
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Edgy MD Dec 03 2013 08:14 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
Hey! You know who woke up with smiles on their faces this morning? Josh Satin and Freddie Tovar, that's who. Them's your new favorites to be Mets infield subs. One for offense and one for defense. Happy Hannukah, men.
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Edgy MD Dec 04 2013 08:57 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
Oops... not actually on the roster anymore is Hansel Robles. Was exposed to (and cleared) waivers when they signed Chris Young.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 04 2013 09:03 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
Seriously. He's gonna trade the shit out this team.
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Benjamin Grimm Dec 04 2013 09:37 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
I think so too. But for the moment, anyway, Tovar does have an opportunity in front of him. All he has to do is have a better spring than Ruben Tejada (who likes to show up late, fat, and lazy)* and he's a starting major league shortstop.
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Edgy MD Dec 14 2013 11:45 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
Lots of craziness and fun-ness transpiring at the winter meetings, unless your name is deGrom or Lagares. Life got a little more complicated for those two. For Brown, too, but he has the advantage of being out of options, so Lagares skates to the side for a bit while the Mets attempting to sort out the Davis-Duda conflict.
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Mex17 Dec 14 2013 05:15 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
I think that den Dekker and Lagares would make the 25-man ahead of Duda and Brown if the season started today
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Frayed Knot Dec 14 2013 05:28 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
THE FORTY-MAN ROSTER THREAD: NOW WITH MORE ARROWS!!!
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Vic Sage Dec 15 2013 09:44 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
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why? the value of Lagares and dDekker is the same... defensive CFer, without much of a bat. But Granderson and Young are going to play everyday, and EY most days, and they can all play CF (to a greater or lesser degree), so the Mets are better served having guys on the bench who can give you some pop as late-inning PHers from either side. Plus, Lagares and dDekker have options; Brown doesn't, and he's played some CF too As for Duda, he'll probably end up at 1B with Ike being moved, so that will make room for a LHed bat for the bench, but neither Lagares and dDekker can give you that. I think there is no way dDekker makes the opening day roster and the only way Lagares does is if Murphy is traded and they think EY can play 2b everyday, or if they decide EY is just a utility player and start Lagares in CF.
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Vic Sage Dec 16 2013 02:26 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
so with 37 guys on the 40-man roster (including Harvey, who'll be on the 60-day IR and so i think can be taken off the 40 for next season), what is Sandy looking for to fill out the roster? Or does he leave spots open for in-season moves?
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Ceetar Dec 16 2013 02:35 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
you missed the re-signing of Jeremy Hefner. No longer a free agent, nor on the 40 man, so he'll get well acquainted with PSL doing Tommy John rehab. Perhaps SNY can get a zany weekly show going, Jeremy and Matt's crazy Port St. Lucie adventures!
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MFS62 Dec 16 2013 09:53 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
If they re-signed Hefner to a minor league contract, who pays his medical bills if he's no longer covered by the MLP Health plan? Is there a minor league player medical plan? Will the team do it in good faith because they expect him to be a productive pitcher for them again?
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Lefty Specialist Dec 17 2013 08:02 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
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Edgy MD Dec 29 2013 09:36 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
Over the holidays, Ryan Reid had a blowout welcome aboard party thrown for him by Darren Reed, Jeremy Reed, Rick Reed, Steve Reed, and Reid Cornelius.
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Edgy MD Jan 10 2014 08:59 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
Buncha NRIs beign announced, including Jack Leathersich, Dustin Lawley, Danny Muno, Logan Verrett, and Cory Vaughn.
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Edgy MD Jan 10 2014 10:04 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
Fuller list:
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 10 2014 10:29 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
Darrell Ceciliani says this is bullshit.
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MFS62 Jan 12 2014 08:12 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
I feel bad for Allan Dykstra.
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Edgy MD Jun 16 2014 02:19 PM Re: Roster 2014 |
Digging up this neglected thread to tell you EY is BACK and BETTER THAN EVER!!
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Edgy MD Sep 21 2014 11:51 AM Re: Roster 2014 |
Wilfredo Tovar to return to the team for the DC series. Dude had already headed home for the offseason, I imagine.
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