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Mets to WOR 710 in 2014...

seawolf17
Oct 18 2013 01:17 PM

...sez Twitter.

bmfc1
Oct 18 2013 01:18 PM
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Neil Best isn't sure if Josh Lewin will return:
http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/ ... -1.6280154

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 18 2013 01:26 PM
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This means WOR

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 18 2013 01:35 PM
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What will become of the beloved John & Ken show, that is what I must know!!!

metirish
Oct 18 2013 01:47 PM
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Kinda hope Josh does return.....not that I listen a lot on the radio but when I do I like Howie and Josh.

d'Kong76
Oct 18 2013 01:57 PM
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That Newsday link made my Flash crash and Firefox freeze.
Didn't realize WOR was full powered and clear channel. Nice.

Edgy MD
Oct 18 2013 02:05 PM
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Just gobbled up by Clear Channel a month or two ago. Uggle.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 18 2013 02:17 PM
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I'll be honest I never even heard of John & Ken until an hour ago. They certainly seem like douchebags, though.

I don't think I've even listened to that station for 30+ years. Just checked though, and it comes to my cubie OK so I'm good to goof off with yous on those long Thursday afternoons.

SteveJRogers
Oct 18 2013 02:31 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I'll be honest I never even heard of John & Ken until an hour ago. They certainly seem like douchebags, though.

I don't think I've even listened to that station for 30+ years. Just checked though, and it comes to my cubie OK so I'm good to goof off with yous on those long Thursday afternoons.


Don't be so sure. I think I saw somewhere that Sean Hannity is heading to WOR locally.

SteveJRogers
Oct 18 2013 02:35 PM
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Source:

[url]http://m.nydailynews.com/1.1453700#bmb=1

Frayed Knot
Oct 18 2013 02:52 PM
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What's Hannity got to do with anything?

SteveJRogers
Oct 18 2013 03:00 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
What's Hannity got to do with anything?


Making Bucket's work day tolerable. But then again, just saw the show he referenced is a night time shift, so never mind...I guess?

Frayed Knot
Oct 18 2013 03:14 PM
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that Bucket was talking about listening to NEW YORK METS GAMES on the odd Thursday afternoon.
And, unless the Mets just signed the worst radio contract in the history of mankind, whatever is on the regular WOR sked during the day -- whether it be Hannity, Limbaugh, or the Mao Tse Tung Hour -- Met radio-casts are going to take precedence.

Frayed Knot
Oct 18 2013 03:57 PM
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Raissman/Daily News sez:
- official announcement of deal next week
- multi-year deal for more than the previous $7mil per/yr amount w/FAN
- WOR (or, more accurately, parent company Clear Channel) will have final say on the broadcast team
- Rose to return; Lewin "likely" to be back though maybe only on a one-year deal; Eddie C up in the air
- team to get "heavy" cross-promotion from other NYC-based Clear Channel outlets: Z-100, Lite-FM, KTU, Q-103, Power-101.5

G-Fafif
Oct 18 2013 04:14 PM
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From Sean Henn to Sean Hannity...

d'Kong76
Oct 18 2013 04:25 PM
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Just tried 710 in the garage, crystal clear ... me happy.
WOR should put Steve Somers up against Mike and Michael.
That would be just schmoozie funtabulous.

(did I just type funtabulous?)

Frayed Knot
Oct 18 2013 05:18 PM
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WOR is one of the long-time, 50K Watt, clear channel (meaning no competition on the signal - not the parent company) NYC radio stations (does no one remember 'Rambling with Gambling'?) so if you get WFAN in your area you certainly should get WOR.




But I can't see WOR hiring Somers.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Oct 18 2013 05:32 PM
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I like Eddie. I'm fond of Eddie. I'll miss him a lot if he doesn't come along.

But if Josh doesn't come along, I'll be very upset. Like, sitting-through-a-wedding-mass-performed-by-Steve-Trachsel upset.

Zvon
Oct 18 2013 06:26 PM
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I hope they bring Somers along. He is truly part of the Met fan experience.

d'Kong76
Oct 18 2013 06:36 PM
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I'd be surprised if Eddie C didn't tag along, Josh too.

Frayed Knot
Oct 18 2013 07:03 PM
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Zvon wrote:
I hope they bring Somers along. He is truly part of the Met fan experience.


He's not theirs to bring.
I have no idea what Somers' contract status w/FAN is like but WOR is buying the Met radio-telecasts (plus presumably a pre- and post- to go along with it) not the WFAN staff as the rest of their programming day isn't going to have anything to do with sports.

If you still want to catch Somers after the game, no problem ... flip the channel.

themetfairy
Oct 18 2013 07:16 PM
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It comes in clearly down here as well.

Whew!

d'Kong76
Oct 18 2013 07:19 PM
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I'd like to see Somers' contract! He pops up out of
nowhere during extended rain delays. Maybe he has
a mobile set up in his apartment. Also, he doesn't work
on Sundays, must be in the fine print.

Frayed Knot
Oct 18 2013 08:38 PM
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Kong76 wrote:
I'd like to see Somers' contract! He pops up out of
nowhere during extended rain delays. Maybe he has
a mobile set up in his apartment. Also, he doesn't work
on Sundays, must be in the fine print.


Y'know, he always did that 20 minutes or so between the end of M&MD and the beginning of the pre-game show. After that, I think he just got paid to sit around the studio in case of a rain delay or, if not, wait until after the post-game was done. Nice work if you can get it.
I just can't see Schmoozer with a whole set-up of high-tech equipment in what I picture as some hole in the wall apt with not much more in it other than a TV set, mini-fridge, and a bunch of empty chinese food containers.

MFS62
Oct 18 2013 08:42 PM
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I hope they're going to simulcast on one of the WOR sister FM stations because I just tried to get 710 AM up here and got a festival of static.

Later

G-Fafif
Oct 18 2013 10:46 PM
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MFS62 wrote:
I hope they're going to simulcast on one of the WOR sister FM stations because I just tried to get 710 AM up here and got a festival of static.


An excuse to revive the Mets Baseball Radio Network in earnest.

Or, I suppose, the WOR Mets Baseball Radio Network.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 19 2013 05:06 AM
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Yeah Rogers, I was taking about Mets day games. But between Rush, Hannity, those 2 douches, etc., Mets will be surrounded by right-wing buffoons.

I suppose Rush replaces Francesca as team's fat obnoxious lead-in.

I like Lewin quite a bit; he's actually helping Howie get better. Have never cared for the journalistic chops of Eddie "You may be right about that, Mike" Coleman but he's alright to listen to otherwise.

Frayed Knot
Oct 19 2013 07:17 AM
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MFS62 wrote:
I hope they're going to simulcast on one of the WOR sister FM stations
-- I doubt it.


... because I just tried to get 710 AM up here and got a festival of static.
-- So you're in an area where you can't get AM NYC stations but you can get FM?
That doesn't make much sense.

bmfc1
Oct 19 2013 08:16 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
But between Rush, Hannity, those 2 douches, etc., Mets will be surrounded by right-wing buffoons.

We now root for a team which will have these station IDs during the game: "Rush Limbaugh 10 to 1
on the radio home of the Mets, 710 WOR, New York."

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 19 2013 08:19 AM
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Right Blitz All Day; Wright Hits All Night!

Rush replaces Francessa as fat obnoxious lead-in.

Edgy MD
Oct 19 2013 08:26 AM
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Terry Collins is ruining the team by night! Susan Collins is ruining the party by day! At your Clear Channel listening home, WOR!

Shutting down the Wasthington Nationals in the evening! Shutting down the Washington Bureaucrats in the morning! Stay tuned on 710!

bmfc1
Oct 19 2013 08:47 AM
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Nice job JCL and Edgy. Next up, Howie during a rain delay: "let's send it back to the studio for 'Best of Rush''.

d'Kong76
Oct 19 2013 09:05 AM
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[youtube:3dfgtksx]-8JicM5ehvI[/youtube:3dfgtksx]

Edgy MD
Oct 19 2013 09:10 AM
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I'm no indulger of right wing talk, but I've found WFAN sports talk as unlistenable as the Rush format.

Back in the early nineties when Rush went national on telebision and I had a period of unemployed uselessness, I'd occasionally stumble upon him late at night, and while I found him disagreeable, I thought he was much more reasoned and researched and restrained than those complaining about him portrayed him as. Henry Winkler starred in a brief-running sitcom called Monty, parodying Rush and portraying him as a mentally diseased hatemonger, treating Hillary Clinton as a vampire that must be chased by the sign of the cross back to the kitchen. "Have they even heard or seen his show?" I thought.

But now, if anything, Rush, bouyed and emboldened by the wave of imitators in that have arisen in the generation since his rise, is now more off the hook than Winkler's character ever was, and to hear him now is to wonder how he is allowed out of the house to wander without restriction, how he could ever be invited to a polite party without a nodding, silent understanding going around that Uncle isn't quite well, and please forgive beforehand any mortifying behavior that is sure to come.

I heard the real Rush, on the other hand, do "Xanadu" yesterday on the satellite radio. My word. Meandering and plodding, but wouldn't that be a heckuva format? Your home of extended progressive metal tracks by day, the New York Mets by night!

Frayed Knot
Oct 19 2013 09:38 AM
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When WABC 770 was in the midst of shifting their talk format into a nationally syndicated line-up, WOR was the place for local talk and it was there where Bob Grant, with his growling, angry, confrontational style, was the afternoon drive-time star. So when Rush first became syndicated and came to NY w/WABC as his home station (he had been doing a local show in Sacramento) many simply transplanted Grant's act onto Rush as the assumed way all conservatives acted whether it was actually the case or not.

Not sure what's going on at ABC now to cause the big right-wing draws of Hannity & Limbaugh to jump ship, but it appears the Clear Channel strategy is to now go the national route in place of the long-time WOR tradition of local programming. Clean Channel stations also hold the rights to several other baseball contracts.

The current WOR lineup (acc to Wikipedia so you know it's true):
5AM - early news
6AM - John Gambling (either the 3rd generation JG or the 4th, I can't keep it straight)
10AM - Mark Simone
Noon - Joan Hamburg (to be replaced by Limbaugh)
2PM - Dave Ramsey
4PM - Rita Cosby (presumably Ramsey & Cosby get bumped by Hannity)
6PM - 'America Now with Andy Dean' (I have no idea with Andy Dean is but I suppose he's a step up from 'America Now with Andy Dick')
9PM - (the above mentioned) John and Ken
11PM - 'Ground Zero with Clyde Lewis' (not sure I want to know what this is)
1AM - George Noory

d'Kong76
Oct 19 2013 09:41 AM
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Trippy tune ... makes me want to break my fast on honeydew ...

[youtube:2tnx9qq8]R0dpJmBHtDs[/youtube:2tnx9qq8]

d'Kong76
Oct 19 2013 09:42 AM
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2PM - Steve Somers (him here, you there)

Frayed Knot
Oct 19 2013 09:44 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
I heard the real Rush, on the other hand, do "Xanadu" yesterday on the satellite radio. My word. Meandering and plodding, but wouldn't that be a heckuva format? Your home of extended progressive metal tracks by day, the New York Mets by night!


A radio station devoted to nothing but Rush (the band) and the Mets ... my brother could simply weld his radio dial in place.

Edgy MD
Oct 19 2013 10:16 AM
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I love that your brother's twin musical passions are Rush and KISS --- one being the epitome of stupid smart, and the other the epitome of smart stupid.

They're like the Gene Mauch and Tommy LaSorda of rock bands.

Ashie62
Oct 19 2013 10:29 AM
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WOR does Rutgers Sports...

Ceetar
Oct 19 2013 10:47 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Kong76 wrote:
I'd like to see Somers' contract! He pops up out of
nowhere during extended rain delays. Maybe he has
a mobile set up in his apartment. Also, he doesn't work
on Sundays, must be in the fine print.


Y'know, he always did that 20 minutes or so between the end of M&MD and the beginning of the pre-game show. After that, I think he just got paid to sit around the studio in case of a rain delay or, if not, wait until after the post-game was done. Nice work if you can get it.
I just can't see Schmoozer with a whole set-up of high-tech equipment in what I picture as some hole in the wall apt with not much more in it other than a TV set, mini-fridge, and a bunch of empty chinese food containers.


I never understood that. I guess they work 'shifts' whether they're on the air or not, but Francesa/Maddog ran that station so much that they didn't even have to cover up to the pregame? What's the logic in having a fresh host on for that. Hell, just extend the pregame and make Coleman do it and talk about BP or something. Air the Terry press conference.

I guess it was probably just an excuse to overload us with ads and have Steve say one or two things and then more ads, and ads. and ads for all the people tuning in early for the Mets game?

Anyway, I guess we're not going to get sports talk during rain delays then?

Frayed Knot
Oct 19 2013 12:13 PM
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I love that your brothers twin musical passions are Rush and KISS --- one being the epitome of stupid smart, and the other the epitome of smart stupid.

They're like the Gene Mauch and Tommy LaSorda of rock bands.


Well, those eras of fandom weren't exactly concurrent.
I was going to mention this in the R&R HoF thread, but whenever someone, some adult anyway, tells me about how much they like KISS, my reply often is: "on yeah, my brother was a big fan of KISS too ... and then he turned 14".

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Oct 19 2013 05:48 PM
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Anyway, I guess we're not going to get sports talk during rain delays then?


Synthesis: severely-right-leaning sports talk during rain delays.

While the storm that's totally-not-the-government's-weather-weapons-at-work passes us by, let's go to 'Lefty No-Out Guys' with Alex and Todd Jones.

metirish
Oct 19 2013 07:05 PM
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Anyway, I guess we're not going to get sports talk during rain delays then?


Synthesis: severely-right-leaning sports talk during rain delays.

While the storm that's totally-not-the-government's-weather-weapons-at-work passes us by, let's go to 'Lefty No-Out Guys' with Alex and Todd Jones.



lol

"and that catch in right field brought to you by Americans for Prosperity, hey folks, make sure you grab a koch to quench the thirst"

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 19 2013 07:42 PM
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"...that was the second batter of the game, and National Rifle Association would like to remind you that the second Amendment can save you and your family when Obama comes to take your guns! Call 1-800-FIREARM ..."

metirish
Oct 19 2013 07:51 PM
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Gold

"and that call to the bullpen is really a call to arms folks, rise up people here's your chance to get freedom fries with that koch"

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Oct 19 2013 09:00 PM
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Coming to you from the Peerless Burden On Small Business And Working Families Broadcast Booth, I don't even recognize the direction this country is headed in.

Frayed Knot
Oct 21 2013 07:15 AM
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Phil Mushnick says (via NY radio historian David Halberstam - no relation to the late author) that Mets games broadcast over WOR next year will be the first baseball on WOR since Game 7 of the 1956 Yankees-Dodgers World Series.

MFS62
Oct 21 2013 07:42 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
MFS62 wrote:
I hope they're going to simulcast on one of the WOR sister FM stations
-- I doubt it.


... because I just tried to get 710 AM up here and got a festival of static.
-- So you're in an area where you can't get AM NYC stations but you can get FM?
That doesn't make much sense.

Radio reception up here is weird. less than 60 miles NE of NYC, I sometimes get radio stations from as far away as Maine and Cape Cod overpowering the signals of some NY stations, both AM and FM. I get WCBS-AM loud and clear.
I think I read (heard?) its because many NY stations beam their signals toward upstate NY and New Jersey because they figure Connecticut has its own stations.
Not sure the reason, but it really pisses me off.

Later

Frayed Knot
Oct 21 2013 12:09 PM
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Under the right conditions, I've picked up the various clear-channel 50K watt NYC stations from Maine to N Carolina. Indeed the whole purpose of clear channel stations is that there should be no interference from other locations on the same frequency and AM signals, being pretty much omni-directional and NOT line of sight (they bounce off certain atmospheric layers rather than go through them like FM), tend to travel much better. Generally if you can get the other NYC AM 50K stations (660, 770, 880, 1010) you should get this one. Maybe there's some odd sort of local interference screwing up 710 although I can't imagine what that would be.
But the larger point is that if there are local conditions preventing you from getting the AM signal then the FM, which IS line of sight and therefore subject to hills, man-made barriers, or just plain curvature of the earth, would probably be worse, although FM reception can be made better if attached to a rooftop antenna.

Anyway, it doesn't sound like they're going to simulcast on FM as they probably see it as robbing from one of their other audiences in order to double-cast the baseball.

Edgy MD
Oct 21 2013 12:17 PM
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Jeff Wilpon affects the curvature of the Earth!! SELL THE TEAM NOW!!!!

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Nov 04 2013 08:33 AM
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here's the official release.

No news on radio hosts, but hope that postgame concerts get a push from the awesomeballs that is Klassik Rawk 104.3.



Mets and Clear Channel Media and Entertainment launch landmark multimedia marketing partnership
50,000-Watt AM Powerhouse 710 WOR to Become New Radio Home of the Mets

Mets-Related Programming and Promotion to be Featured on Clear Channel's Leading FM Stations in New York Market Including Z100, KTU, LITE FM, Q104.3 and Power 105.1

Strategic Alliance Also includes Promotional Support for Mets on Clear Channel Outdoor and Digital Media Assets

Clear Channel to Enhance In-Game Entertainment and Music Events at Citi Field

The New York Mets and Clear Channel Media and Entertainment, the leading media company in America with a greater reach in the U.S. than any radio or television outlet, today announced the launch of a five-year landmark multimedia marketing partnership.

Clear Channel Media and Entertainment's 50,000-watt AM powerhouse 710 WOR will become the flagship radio station of the Mets, broadcasting Spring Training, regular season, and post season games as well as the team's pre- and post-game shows. Beyond broadcasting the games on WOR, the multifaceted strategic alliance includes Mets-related programming and promotion through all of Clear Channel's multi-platform media assets, including radio, digital, outdoor and music/entertainment events.

Following are the other key elements of the landmark five-year agreement between the Mets and Clear Channel Media and Entertainment:

Radio: The Mets will be marketed across all six top-rated Clear Channel New York radio stations and will work with each station on custom promotional opportunities on air and during Mets home games at Citi Field. Clear Channel and affiliate stations reach 93% of the New York DMA population of 12+ each month. Clear Channel New York radio stations include Z100 (100.3 WHTZ-FM), KTU (103.5 WKTU-FM), LITE FM (106.7 WLTW-FM), Q104.3 (104.3 WAXQ-FM), Power 105.1 (105.1 WWPR-FM) and WOR 710 AM.

Digital: In addition to promotion on the stations, each station website and iHeartRadio, Clear Channel's industry-leading, all-in-one digital service, will promote the Mets and Mets-related programming.

Outdoor: Clear Channel Outdoor's strategically located media inventory will also market the Mets and WOR relationship throughout the New York Metropolitan Area.

Music and Entertainment: The Mets and Clear Channel Media and Entertainment will work together to enhance in-game entertainment at Citi Field and jointly explore the production and promotion of top name concerts, festivals and large-scale entertainment events at Citi Field.

Community Outreach and Grass Roots: The Mets and Clear Channel Communities ™, the charitable arm of Clear Channel, will also jointly develop a number of outreach and grass roots programs to meet the needs of the communities they serve.

"This breakthrough partnership provides us with the ability to serve our loyal fans and attract a new generation of fans through Clear Channel's massive reach and ability to target key demographics across the New York market," said Mets COO Jeff Wilpon. "Our agreement delivers more promotion of the club to a broader audience than this franchise ever has had before with additional opportunities to advance our efforts to make Citi Field one of the leading sports and entertainment destinations in the country."

"WOR is a powerful, high potential complement to our existing New York brands, and it's an incredible opportunity for us to be able to bring the Mets programming to WOR's lineup and the rest of our New York cluster," said John Hogan, Chairman and CEO, Clear Channel and Entertainment. "We look at this investment not only as an opportunity to establish WOR as a destination to a broader audience, but to also to drive further awareness and growth of the Mets through our unique multiplatform capabilities and programming -- radio, digital, outdoor and live events."

MFS62
Nov 04 2013 08:47 AM
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Radio: The Mets will be marketed across all six top-rated Clear Channel New York radio stations and will work with each station on custom promotional opportunities on air and during Mets home games at Citi Field. Clear Channel and affiliate stations reach 93% of the New York DMA population of 12+ each month. Clear Channel New York radio stations include Z100 (100.3 WHTZ-FM), KTU (103.5 WKTU-FM), LITE FM (106.7 WLTW-FM), Q104.3 (104.3 WAXQ-FM), Power 105.1 (105.1 WWPR-FM) and WOR 710 AM.


The Mets will be "marketed" on all those stations, but it still sounds like the games themselves will only be on WOR-AM.

Later

seawolf17
Nov 04 2013 09:23 AM
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Came through my email this morning shortened to "Mets and Cle" as the subject line. Was sure it was a trade announcement with the Indians.

Mets – Willets Point
Nov 04 2013 09:37 AM
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seawolf17 wrote:
Came through my email this morning shortened to "Mets and Cle" as the subject line. Was sure it was a trade announcement with the Indians.


Or Cleon Jones returning to the Mets.

Mets – Willets Point
Nov 04 2013 09:41 AM
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Doesn't matter so much now that I can stream the games on MLB.com, but I remember I used to get 660 AM in Virginia, but couldn't pick it up in Massachusetts. Of course, I have trouble picking up Boston-based radio stations at my current residence, so I'm not really sure what's going on here.

G-Fafif
Nov 04 2013 09:55 AM
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A voice made for radio?

Lefty Specialist
Nov 04 2013 11:44 AM
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"I won't shake your hand until you tell me where The Schmooze is."

d'Kong76
Nov 04 2013 01:29 PM
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710 AM works in computer room, garage and car.
I approve.

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 20 2014 07:36 AM
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Reports leaking out that WOR wanted to fire Howie Rose but the Mets intervened.

bmfc1
Jan 20 2014 07:57 AM
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From Raissman:
METS RADIO SHAKEUP
Ed Coleman will be back covering the Mets, but won’t be hosting the pre- and postgame shows, or doing play-by-play, on WOR-AM.
He will be serving strictly as WFAN’s Mets beat reporter. WOR suits did not look for continuity in their first broadcast season. A radio source said they wanted to shake things up and even were reluctant to bring Howie Rose back.
Mets brass stuck its beak into that situation, but apparently didn’t go to the mat for either Coleman or Josh Lewin, who likely will be back but not under a long term deal.


From Puma:
Mike Puma ?@NYPost_Mets Jan 18
Mets/WOR Radio plan to speak with Cliff Floyd about some kind of role. Howie Rose almost slam dunk to return. Less clarity with Josh Lewin.


In sum, Josh Lewin might not be back because someone that likely knows nothing about baseball wants to make a change for the sake of change.

Frayed Knot
Jan 20 2014 08:07 AM
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The Coleman decision makes sense. First of all, he's still WFAN property so WOR would have to have to hire him just to do the pre & post stuff and arrange some sort of time-sharing agreement with FAN. Plus, no matter what you think about Eddie C., it has long been awkward having the same guy being part of the broadcast crew on one hand yet also play the role of a reporter about the team on the other, and to be expected to switch between those roles from one side of a commercial break to the other.


I suspect their dalliance with making a change with one or both of the others is a desire to get a "name" guy in there. Radio mgmt, particularly one that is national in scope like Clear Channel, often thinks that nationally known names trump local ones even if the subject at hand is local. WFAN made this same mistake in their early days.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 20 2014 08:10 AM
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I'd bet anything it's not "change" being sought for the sake of change but affordability disguised as change. Pros like Howie and Josh probably don't come as cheap as Clear Channel would like.

Eddie C added very little to the team from my perspective and can remain providing news-free news to Mike Francessa's listeners. I'd like to have a pregame show but he wasn't essential to do it IMO.

Ceetar
Jan 20 2014 08:12 AM
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This is dumb, because any real research should reveal that the Mets/WFAN had it right last year with Josh and Howie. And they worked in Jim Duquette plenty. There is room for Cliff Floyd without jettisoning Josh.

I liked Eddie C well enough but I also doubt he's a guy I'd miss.

Frayed Knot
Jan 20 2014 08:19 AM
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Cliff's been doing some TV work for the Marlins, mostly sideline stuff although some booth as well - I'm not sure how regularly.
From what I've heard (admittedly not a lot) he's a typical ex-jock, not bad but also not someone who adds anything unique.
I assume he lives in south Florida full time so I'm not sure what his commitment to NYC radio would be. He also likes to talk football a lot. He might disappear once September rolls around if he had his choice.

Lefty Specialist
Jan 20 2014 08:54 AM
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Saw my first WOR commercial as the new home of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and oh yeah, the Mets. Threw up in my mouth a little.

Edgy MD
Jan 20 2014 09:07 AM
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Cliff would, I guess, be the first Mets English-language announcer of color --- well, of a color more vivid and marginalized than half-Polynesian, anyhow. It would probably play into the WOR and Mets thinking a little, no?

Wright can make him carry his luggage.

d'Kong76
Jan 21 2014 11:40 AM
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I doubt anyone would miss Eddie C at this point after all
these years. I would love to see Cliff Floyd get into the mix
somehow.

Can't find the bang pow on my server.

MFS62
Jan 21 2014 12:01 PM
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I like Eddie C from the days of the "Cole-man ans Soul-man" show (with Dave Simms?) on WFAN.
He did the Mets report and Suzyn Waldmann did the Yankee report.
She would give interesting updates - clubhouse happenings, trade rumors and even reports on some minor leaguers.
Ed was on with Massive Mike and the Cretinous Canine. The wouldn't let him do his job. The comments were "Hey Eddie, how's the hotel bar, har har har", "Hey Eddie, the (newborn) twins keeping you up all night? har har har" He never got around to talking about the Mets. I felt he would have done that if given the chance.
Later, he must have grown a set of balls, said something, and they let him report on the Mets. He did a respectable job at it.

Later

d'Kong76
Jan 21 2014 12:17 PM
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Yes, he is/was respectable enough. He just doesn't really
say much at this point. Listening to him on, say, Francessa's
show is like listening to paint dry.

Kinda like how many here feel about me.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 21 2014 12:23 PM
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Every Ed Coleman Mets update, ever:

FRANCESSA: (blindingly ignorant and easily disproven opinion disguised as a question about the Mets)
COLEMAN: You could be right about that, Mike

d'Kong76
Jan 21 2014 12:27 PM
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FRANCESSA: Of course I'm right.
COLEMAN: But on the other hand, you never know.

G-Fafif
Jan 23 2014 12:46 PM
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Howard Megdal: Jeff Wilpon fails to embrace Howie & Josh.

Apparently, Mets COO Jeff Wilpon has big plans for one of the few things in his team's orbit that's seems to be functioning fairly well: the radio broadcast.

According to sources familiar with talks between the team and WOR-AM, Wilpon is pushing to find a replacement for Josh Lewin, who partners on Mets broadcasts with Howie Rose

[...]

With the Mets moving up the dial from 660 WFAN to 710 WOR, after the former booted them for the Yankees, Wilpon is apparently unhappy with the situation. And with just weeks until spring training, the situation is still unresolved.

[...]

The sources who spoke to Capital say there's a desire from Wilpon to incorporate an ex-player into the booth, a change from the pure-announcer backgrounds of Rose and Lewin. It's hardly a revolutionary idea, and in fact the ex-jock formula has worked exceptionally well for the Mets on TV, with the extrordinary, anti-homer combination of Gary, Keith and Ron.

But it flies in the face of how the Mets have typically deployed their radio announcers for the half-century they've been around.

Consider that for most of the team's 52 years, the Mets have excelled on the radio side with a broadcast-first approach to their radio team's background. Bob Murphy, Gary Cohen, Lindsey Nelson, Howie Rose are all iconic names in Mets broadcasting, without a single M.L.B. game played between them. Only Ralph Kiner stands apart as a Mets radio broadcaster of note with playing experience.

It's generally considered to have worked well to team Rose's analysis with Lewin, who excels on the play-by-play side of things. There's no downtime in a Mets broadcast with Rose and Lewin.

But with a month until their first spring training game on February 28, the Mets haven't finalized arrangements with Rose, Lewin, or a replacement for either one.

Which means that, after all this, they may have a hard time lining up any alternatives.

This may be typical for the Mets, who hired Lewin to replace Wayne Hagin two years ago in early February, but most other broadcast teams are already in place, limiting the free agents available for the Mets and WOR to hire.

Then there's the reality of the job itself, which would require someone like Cliff Floyd, one rumored Mets/WOR target who is currently an analyst for MLB Network, to travel with the Mets for months, at a wage far lower than what he ever received as a player, not to mention MLB Network.

"Unless Cliff Floyd really, really doesn't like his family, why would he take a pay cut to leave his mansion in Miami for months at a time?" was how one of the sources put it to me.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 23 2014 12:57 PM
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The combo of anonymous sources, no quotes and Megdal's POV make me skeptical of this story's truthiosity.

Ceetar
Jan 23 2014 01:05 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
The combo of anonymous sources, no quotes and Megdal's POV make me skeptical of this story's truthiosity.


There was a story last week that the team was instrumental in Howie keeping his job. A lot of this seems to be coming from WOR execs, not Mets ones. They're ultimately going to be radio employees, not Mets ones.

And I love Josh, I think he does a great job and I'll be pissed if they don't keep him, but he's been here two years. It's not like they're kicking Bob Murphy to the curb in '95 or something.

also "radio free agents"? How many thousands upon thousands of candidates must their be? This isn't like "Snap up Stephen Drew now or their will be no SS for you to sign!" They did just announce 15 games for Spring Training (or not announce, @MetsBooth tweeted it) so they must be wanting to finalize soon rigiht?

Edgy MD
Jan 23 2014 01:58 PM
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Wilpon's interference can be gleaned from the bits of breakfast cereal spotted around the radio booth.

Gwreck
Jan 23 2014 02:43 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
And I love Josh, I think he does a great job and I'll be pissed if they don't keep him, but he's been here two years.


How long he's been with the Mets is irrelevant. He is FANTASTIC and the Mets and/or WOR would be idiotic to replace him. Losing him would be be an unquestionable travesty.

themetfairy
Jan 23 2014 02:49 PM
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Gwreck wrote:
Ceetar wrote:
And I love Josh, I think he does a great job and I'll be pissed if they don't keep him, but he's been here two years.


How long he's been with the Mets is irrelevant. He is FANTASTIC and the Mets and/or WOR would be idiotic to replace him. Losing him would be be an unquestionable travesty.


This!

Edgy MD
Jan 23 2014 03:13 PM
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Gwreck would be devastated, not disappointed.

HahnSolo
Jan 23 2014 03:31 PM
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The Immortal Chris Majkowski will be making his way to WOR. The streak goes on.

bmfc1
Jan 23 2014 04:36 PM
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Gwreck wrote:
And I love Josh, I think he does a great job and I'll be pissed if they don't keep him, but he's been here two years.

How long he's been with the Mets is irrelevant. He is FANTASTIC and the Mets and/or WOR would be idiotic to replace him. Losing him would be be an unquestionable travesty.

Correct. The Mets: mediocre. The Mets radio team: best in baseball.

Lefty Specialist
Jan 23 2014 05:18 PM
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Getting rid of Josh would be stupid. He and Howie work flawlessly together, and actually sound like they enjoy each others' company. But I'm sure they can find a way to screw it up, because we're not allowed to have nice things.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jan 23 2014 05:45 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Gwreck would be devastated, not disappointed.


Me too, frankly.

It's such a good broadcast and-- sacrilege alert-- Howie isn't the better half of it anymore.

d'Kong76
Jan 23 2014 06:14 PM
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Josh Lewin has been a very pleasant addition. Hope he
can stay. I find Howie annoying at times, but he's our
Howie and I hope he stays forever.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 23 2014 06:22 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Gwreck would be devastated, not disappointed.


Me too, frankly.

It's such a good broadcast and-- sacrilege alert-- Howie isn't the better half of it anymore.


I don't think that's at all unfair: Howie needs a younger, more progressive thinking guy as a teammate or there's a risk he comes off too fuddyduddyish. He's a great member of the Mets universe but his perspective isn't getting any modern as he ages. And I'm not sure a jock is the right partner for him either since Cliff Floyd or whoever isn't going to ride the same history and pop culture tracks.

All this said, this isn't the first time the broadcast team has been in limbo at this time of year. I guess the nature of the biz makes it unlikely to strike deals until they absolutely have to and the money is probably a concern. Radio stations are cheap bastards and the Mets are broke.

Frayed Knot
Jan 23 2014 06:38 PM
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Y'know, if everyone here is so adamant about the need to hang on the Josh, it wouldn't hurt to write the Mets and tell them that.
It might not make a difference, but it would be even worse to worry over the move without at least saying something.

Edgy MD
Jan 23 2014 07:51 PM
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And perhaps indeed write to WOR, who likely would have less than no clue.

Ceetar
Jan 23 2014 08:56 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Y'know, if everyone here is so adamant about the need to hang on the Josh, it wouldn't hurt to write the Mets and tell them that.
It might not make a difference, but it would be even worse to worry over the move without at least saying something.


write WOR you mean, since they're the ones actually doing anything here. The Mets are well aware of how we all feel about Josh Lewin, especially now that they've hired Will Carafello and have stepped up the social media game.

I did submit a contact me form somewhere when someone tweeted it though.

Frayed Knot
Jan 23 2014 09:10 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
write WOR you mean, since they're the ones actually doing anything here. The Mets are well aware of how we all feel about Josh Lewin, especially now that they've hired Will Carafello and have stepped up the social media game.


Well, I suppose it depends on who (if anyone) you believe is pushing Josh out the door.
Either way, don't assume that the brass of either team or station knows what we're all thinking out here in cyberland or in the cheap seats. If nothing else, some of the logic espoused here (Howie needs a younger, non-jock to make him better, etc.) might give the decision makers a new angle on things.

G-Fafif
Jan 23 2014 11:33 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
And perhaps indeed write to WOR, who likely would have less than no clue.


Here's your guy:

JoePuglise@clearchannel.com

WOR's GM.

themetfairy
Jan 24 2014 06:00 AM
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G-Fafif wrote:
And perhaps indeed write to WOR, who likely would have less than no clue.


Here's your guy:

JoePuglise@clearchannel.com

WOR's GM.


Thanks - I'll get on that right away!

I suggest we all drop Joe a quick line.

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 24 2014 06:39 AM
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Ask him, "What does the fox say?"

Edgy MD
Jan 24 2014 07:39 AM
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How sad that clear channel stations don't even get their own internet domain.

Edgy MD
Jan 24 2014 07:53 AM
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Dear Mr. Pugilese,

I write to you as a long-time Met fan. Congratulations on WOR securing the rights to broadcast Mets games. It is a great time to get on board with the team and you will likely have a new and loyal listener in me.

In that spirit, I note that WOR still hasn't announced who will be their broadcast team. Having listened to Mets radio broadcasts for decades, please know that my fellow fans and I have come to delight in the team of Howie Rose and Josh Lewin. Their New York roots, organizational knowledge, and their witty ability to bring historical and pop cultural references into their game accounts and booth banter make for great listening night after night, win or lose.

We've heard a lot of lesser broadcasters over the years. And it certainly affects our willingness to continually tune in and stay tuned. It's hard to find a formula that works. This one works. Josh makes Howie better. Howie makes Josh better. They both make the game better. Please take steps to keep this broadcast team intact.

Sincerely,

Edgy MD

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 24 2014 08:23 AM
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Good job!

G-Fafif
Feb 01 2014 06:22 PM
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The case for Howie & Josh articulated well here, courtesy of W.M. Akers of the Classical.

Since 2012, Rose has been backed up by Josh Lewin, a Rochester-born American League-refugee who peppers his color commentary with “Seinfeld” references, and does a piano man-imitation when he's not situated in the Peerless Boilers broadcast booth. After just two seasons, Rose and Lewin have the easy rapport of a pair of aging vaudevillians. They are endlessly, genuinely funny, calling games with a "just a couple of idiots" schtick that relishes all the absurdities that bad baseball so regularly provides.

Ashie62
Feb 01 2014 06:50 PM
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Beware...you may get Chris Carlin....

Gwreck
Feb 01 2014 08:00 PM
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Made a couple of changes so it wasn't the exact same but I will freely admit that I cribbed liberally from Edgy:

Dear Mr. Puglise:

Congratulations on securing the broadcast rights for the New York Mets. As an avid fan and regular radio listener, I was very glad to hear that the Mets will be calling your 50,000 watt clear-channel station home.

I have heard the recent news that the broadcasting team for the upcoming season is somewhat unsettled, particularly regarding whether both Howie Rose and Josh Lewin will be returning as broadcasters.

It would be a terrible mistake for WOR to not retain both Mr. Rose and Mr. Lewin. They comprise the best baseball radio team in the majors. They both have a deep, passionate understanding of baseball and the Mets. As broadcasters, their styles complement each others' better than any other broadcasting team the Mets have ever had. They make each other a better broadcaster, and the Mets fans listening on the radio reap the benefits.

Please ensure that both Howie and Josh remain in their broadcasting for both the upcoming 2014 season and the foreseeable future. It would be a catastrophic loss to lose either of these fantastic, talented broadcasters.

Very truly yours,

Gwreck

MFS62
Feb 02 2014 12:26 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
Beware...you may get Chris Carlin....

I he's the one, then I'll be glad I can't get the station up here.

Later

Lefty Specialist
Feb 03 2014 09:17 AM
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If they get Chris Carlin I will disable my car radio.

Ashie62
Feb 03 2014 10:53 AM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
If they get Chris Carlin I will disable my car radio.


Chris Carlin is under contract at WOR for RU football and hoops...

Lefty Specialist
Feb 03 2014 11:49 AM
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Perhaps I should be more specific. If they use Chris Carlin as the partner of Howie Rose on Mets radio broadcasts, I will disable my car radio.

He can do Rutgers football and basketball until he's blue in the face.

Ashie62
Feb 03 2014 03:53 PM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
Perhaps I should be more specific. If they use Chris Carlin as the partner of Howie Rose on Mets radio broadcasts, I will disable my car radio.

He can do Rutgers football and basketball until he's blue in the face.


He will not be the partner....But he may bargain for pre or postgame stuff

HahnSolo
Feb 03 2014 07:44 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
Lefty Specialist wrote:
Perhaps I should be more specific. If they use Chris Carlin as the partner of Howie Rose on Mets radio broadcasts, I will disable my car radio.

He can do Rutgers football and basketball until he's blue in the face.


He will not be the partner....But he may bargain for pre or postgame stuff


Why would he leave SNY pre and post to do WOR pre and post?

Ashie62
Feb 04 2014 08:52 PM
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Did not know he still was on SNY.... we appear safe...

Lefty Specialist
Feb 05 2014 11:27 AM
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My car radio breathes a sigh of relief.

Edgy MD
Feb 11 2014 05:54 PM
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ESPN.com reporter Addy Rubey is reporting that according to a source, WOR radio, after carefully considering an e-mail they received from a lone Baltimore-based fan, have decided to retain the services of Howie Rose and Josh Lewin as the Mets radio broadcast announcing team.

metirish
Feb 11 2014 07:55 PM
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To add to above post

Great news

Neil Best

Not official yet but barring shocking developments WOR should announce by end of week Howie Rose and Josh Lewin will be back in Mets booth.

Frayed Knot
Feb 11 2014 08:00 PM
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Good. I found the rumors of wanting to install an ex-jock as sidekick (Cliff Floyd and Daryl Hamilton were mentioned) seemingly for no other reason other than to add an ex-jock to your stable, to be a silly strategy at best, particularly so on the radio side where precise and timely in-action descriptions are important.

Edgy MD
Feb 11 2014 09:25 PM
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If true, Megdal left holding the bag again.

MFS62
Feb 11 2014 09:44 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
If true, Megdal left holding the bag again.

That would be even better news.
But I'll take the news that Howie and Josh will be back.

Later

bmfc1
Feb 12 2014 05:28 AM
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Just because Josh Lewin is back doesn't mean that Jeffy didn't try to replace him with Cliff Floyd or John Franco. Regardless, this is wonderful news.

Casey Stern for the pre- and post-game show should be solid. He does a nice job on XM's MLB network and grew up as a Mets fan.

Edgy MD
Feb 12 2014 07:20 AM
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When did John Franco walk into the picture?

themetfairy
Feb 13 2014 03:17 PM
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Adam Rubin Tweets that it's official -

Adam Rubin ?@AdamRubinESPN 1m
#Mets officially announced Josh Lewin and Howie Rose as WOR radio team. 15 preseason games on radio.

TheOldMole
Feb 13 2014 03:43 PM
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Good news.

G-Fafif
Feb 13 2014 03:47 PM
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Applause for our beloved baseball team doing the absolute least stupid thing they could do!

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 13 2014 06:35 PM
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um, wow.

NOTE FROM JOSH

Mere words can’t express the depth of my appreciation to the dozens of you who went above and beyond on my behalf these past few months.

Many of you took the time to reach out to both the Mets and WOR, and I can’t imagine that hurt my chances of a return to the job I’m so excited about having in the first place. Two little words aren’t close to enough, but they are totally heartfelt: “THANK YOU.”

During this process, some of you have taken some shots at the Mets or WOR, and I say this not as an apologist or a company stooge, but quite sincerely – I have had nothing but great experiences with both the Wilpon Family and the new radio station. They both have the best interests of the overall collective at heart, they really do.

Also, I’m aware that those with dissenting opinions of the “Howie&Josh” dynamic have taken some shots as well… and I’ll invoke the old George Carlin line: “Like my grandpa always said, ‘hey, if everyone liked the same thing, they’d all be after your grandma.’”

I solemnly and sincerely pledge that I will try as always to make every Met fan a happy listener to our presentation… I regard this job with a near-sacred responsibility since so many are so passionate. And although I may continue to disappoint some of you, please know I’m doing my best to please everyone, but given that no two listeners have the exact same taste, that’s simply an impossible task. The late Harry Kalas used to quote Shakespeare and tell us fledgling broadcasters “to thine own self be true;” and that’s the way I’ll continue to go at it: Mets fan, a little goofy (okay, a lot goofy), not in possession of a classic radio voice, but at the very least, wanting to inform and entertain for all nine innings without fail. That’s all I can control.

I am overjoyed that I’m back for another year to live out my childhood fantasy as a Mets radio announcer. There is no better partner in the business than Howie Rose, and I am honored to return as the John Oates to his Darryl Hall. It should be a really fun and interesting year. (I can’t wait to watch Bartolo Colon run the bases, can you?)

Lastly, I would love to host as many of you as possible after Opening Day to thank you in person, buy you a beverage, and just talk a little baseball. I’m guessing McFadden’s is the spot that makes sense. Let’s touch base via twitter in late March and coordinate a meet-up, which will serve as my chance to thank you very kind people, fan to fan.

Wishing you peace, love and soul… (and thanking you all again) –

-Josh Lewin
http://lewin9.wordpress.com/

Lefty Specialist
Feb 13 2014 06:44 PM
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It's scary that they took so long to do the only sensible thing. It's like they examined every stupid option and somehow they didn't work out, so they were forced to do the right thing because time was running out.

Edgy MD
Feb 13 2014 07:20 PM
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That's one way of looking at it.

But cool, we may well have made a difference. How about that? And how about Josh putting two compound quotes in one note?

Frayed Knot
Feb 13 2014 07:20 PM
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And the contract--which appears to be for just one year--implies that they view this move more as a means to buy themselves some extra time than as a solution.

Lefty Specialist
Feb 13 2014 08:00 PM
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More time for Jeff Wilpon to talk John Franco into taking the job.

Edgy MD
Feb 13 2014 08:32 PM
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Anybody want to help me out with the John Franco thing? Did his name really come up?

metirish
Feb 13 2014 08:41 PM
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I do remember Franco being mentioned as a Jeff Wilpon fave along with Floyd for the radio gig. I think it was a Megdal article so.......

Can't find that online though

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Feb 13 2014 08:45 PM
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I hear he knows people.

batmagadanleadoff
Feb 13 2014 09:16 PM
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The first thing they do is get Franco in the booth. Then it's just a matter of time before the Mets are back in the ugly blacks. It's a very slippery slope.

Frayed Knot
Feb 14 2014 06:05 AM
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The only names I ever heard were Cliff and also Daryl Hamilton.
On the other hand, we also don't know who was mentioning them or how often, only that reports that there was talk about wanting a former player in the booth. That speculation from that immediately jumps to making this a direct Jeff Wilpon project is simply par for the course.

Lefty Specialist
Feb 14 2014 07:08 AM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
The first thing they do is get Franco in the booth. Then it's just a matter of time before the Mets are back in the ugly blacks. It's a very slippery slope.



Then they pair him with Al Leiter. It'd be fun if they did a game where Scott Kazmir was pitching.

Edgy MD
Feb 14 2014 09:01 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
The only names I ever heard were Cliff and also Daryl Hamilton.
On the other hand, we also don't know who was mentioning them or how often, only that reports that there was talk about wanting a former player in the booth. That speculation from that immediately jumps to making this a direct Jeff Wilpon project is simply par for the course.


Other speculation seemingly accepted as fact:
[list][*]That other names bandied about were meant to replace, not augment, the personalities already in place.[/*:m]
[*]That the date of this announcement reflects a winter-long effort to do anything but what they ended up doing.[/*:m]
[*]That any and all contract issues reflect 100% on the Mets --- not on the radio broadcaster, not on the personalities, not on their ageints.[/*:m]
[*]That radio broadcasters, even ones with two years on the assignment, typically get multi-year contracts.[/*:m][/list:u]

G-Fafif
Feb 17 2014 01:46 PM
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Casey Stern and WOR/Mets amicably part ways. Pregame/postgame host still TBD.

Ceetar
Feb 17 2014 02:04 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
Casey Stern and WOR/Mets amicably part ways. Pregame/postgame host still TBD.


Where do I send my resume?

Lefty Specialist
Feb 17 2014 02:24 PM
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Just put fifteen minutes of moaning and weeping sound effects at either end and you're done.

Edgy MD
Feb 21 2014 09:20 PM
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Rubin says that a broadcasting source says that industry scuttlebutt says that WOR says that the new Mets pre-game and post-game host will be Andy Masur, presumably no relation to Bill Mazer. Masur is a Chicago-area native who had been calling games for the Padres for a number of years.

Frayed Knot
Feb 22 2014 06:29 AM
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So they (presumably) will hire an experienced p-b-p guy just to handle pre & post? ... yet another sign that can't smell good for the future of the current second banana radio guy who is currently working on just a one-year contract.

Edgy MD
Feb 22 2014 06:38 AM
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Are multi-year contracts standard for local radio broadcasters?

Frayed Knot
Feb 22 2014 06:41 AM
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I think for most on-air guys, yes.
I'm sure Howie is working with more than just a year-to-year deal and I know G, K, & R all are.
IIRC the last time Keith's deal came up he got renewed for maybe four years.

Ceetar
Feb 22 2014 06:45 AM
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Hagin's deals were both for 2 years I believe, and so was..Robertson? Tom.. something.. before him.

edit: McCarthy right? Way to be memorable Tom.

Edgy MD
Feb 22 2014 06:54 AM
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You're talking Tom Robinson.

Gary, Keith, and Ron are not local radio broadcasters. The closest thing I can find on Rose is that he is "believed to have" signed a longer-term deal. And even if he did, his extended tenure places him in a position to receive security beyond the industry standard.

I really don't think we need to frame circumstances as ominous for Lewin a week after he was re-signed. Oooh, they reportedly hired a pre-game/post-game host with play-by-play experience? Wouldn't most candidates come in with the same?

Frayed Knot
Feb 22 2014 07:11 AM
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Working pre & post sounds like the job you have while working your way towards p-b-p, not the other way around, so this has the ring of a somewhat downward move to me (even in a bigger market) both in prestige and money.
And even if it's not, they're bringing on a guy with p-b-p experience to work behind a guy who, according to multiple reports, they (either team or station or both) were reluctant to re-hire in the first place and is only working on a year to year basis. So, yeah, I don't KNOW that this means Josh should be walking on eggshells from now until October, but when your bosses hire a guy who is fully qualified to replace you ...

Edgy MD
Feb 22 2014 07:17 AM
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You know, the WFAN and the Mets knew they weren't bringing Wayne Hagin back, and Hagin for his part said he didn't want to come back, but the announcement that Lewin was hired didn't come until mid-February. So maybe this is just how things get done, especially for a new outlet.

Ceetar
Feb 22 2014 07:31 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
You know, the WFAN and the Mets knew they weren't bringing Wayne Hagin back, and Hagin for his part said he didn't want to come back, but the announcement that Lewin was hired didn't come until mid-February. So maybe this is just how things get done, especially for a new outlet.


perhaps. And hell, they probably should do their due diligence and research the guy before just keeping him.

If Masur is true I'm sure he'll also be getting those third guy games when Josh is doing whatever it is he's doing and Howie's doing [crossout]Islanders playoff.[/crossout].. I mean, when they take days off. They didn't retain Coleman or Duquette so I guess they do need someone that can do PbP.

G-Fafif
Feb 22 2014 08:56 AM
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Hagin's deals were both for 2 years I believe, and so was..Robertson? Tom.. something.. before him.

edit: McCarthy right? Way to be memorable Tom.


You're talking Tom Robinson.


Tom McCarthy was radio, 2006-2007.

Ted Robinson was the 2002-2005 announcer, TV and some radio.

Tom Robson was the hitting coach between 1997 and 2002, save for the patch of 1999 when he was offed in Steve Phillips's wholesale firing of Bobby V coaches.

Tim Robbins is a celebrity Mets fan who narrated SNY's 1969 documentary.

Kevin Roberson was an outfielder on the 1996 Mets.

Jerry Robertson was pictured on 1971 Topps 651, Mets card, blank cap, never pitched for the Mets.

Tom Robinson: Why, I just had lunch with the man!

Edgy MD
Feb 22 2014 09:22 AM
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Fusion. Conflation.

TheOldMole
Feb 22 2014 12:49 PM
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Jackie Robinson is the one in the rotunda.

themetfairy
Apr 05 2014 12:51 PM
Re: Mets to WOR 710 in 2014...

FYI, D-Dad and I are still getting a decent signal in Framingham, Mass.

themetfairy
Apr 05 2014 01:02 PM
Re: Mets to WOR 710 in 2014...

Lost the signal just north of the Mass Pike. Still, it lasted linger than we thought it would.

Mex17
Apr 05 2014 02:35 PM
Re: Mets to WOR 710 in 2014...

The pre and post game shows sound a little flat to me. No frills. Hopefully it is a work in progress.

MFS62
Apr 05 2014 04:29 PM
Re: Mets to WOR 710 in 2014...

Mex17 wrote:
The pre and post game shows sound a little flat to me. No frills. Hopefully it is a work in progress.

Awful. Those frills we're not getting in the post game shows include any details about out-of-town games.

Later