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Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Series
G-Fafif Oct 20 2013 08:15 AM |
Hello, I am a time traveler who has just arrived from stops in Octobers 1946, 1967 and 2004. Anything new? Your incipient World Series appears to be just like the ones I came from.
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MFS62 Oct 20 2013 10:17 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Yes. Since 2004, we have learned that we don't like the Cardinals and the fans of our cross town team don't like the Red Sox. That makes us like the Red Sox.
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A Boy Named Seo Oct 20 2013 10:32 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
John Titor, is that you??
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Gwreck Oct 20 2013 12:49 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
History tells us that it is unlikely that the Cardinals will win. One league has not won four consecutive World Series since 1979-1982 (NL); before that 1947-1953 (AL).
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G-Fafif Oct 22 2013 04:54 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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One point in the Cardinals' favor, I've decided (though they need lots of points to gain my favor): Bill DeWitt really sweats the things an owner should sweat, as Paul Lukas found out over the past offseason.
Try to picture certain other club owners in the National League a) giving such matters any thought; b) being able to articulate it; or c) not just leaving the whole thing to the discretion of the crooked equipment manager for a generation.
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Zvon Oct 22 2013 06:00 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Now that's my kind of club president. He knows his teams history and takes it serious.
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batmagadanleadoff Oct 22 2013 06:06 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
In the last 10 or so months, I've only read Uni Watch about two, maybe three times tops. But that Cards piece was one of my reads. I remember thinking to myself: that's the kind of team uni history knowledge every team bigwig should be required to have?
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batmagadanleadoff Oct 22 2013 06:07 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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You sure about that?
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Gwreck Oct 22 2013 11:02 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
You tell me. Did I forget something?
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Mets Guy in Michigan Oct 23 2013 08:03 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Sounds like he's added the role of vice president of tradition and fan experience to his own duries!
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MFS62 Oct 23 2013 08:21 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Hey, didn't Fred do that when he built the Rotunda honoring the Brooklyn Dodgers? SM = 96 Later
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 23 2013 10:25 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Thomas Boswell on why this will be a classic World Series. I agree with most of these except that I prefer pitching duels to an "action series."
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G-Fafif Oct 23 2013 04:06 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Boswell's column is great stuff for convincing people who are going to watch the World Series that they're making a wise choice. Can't imagine it (or others in the genre) would sway people who don't already care.
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Edgy MD Oct 23 2013 04:16 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Well, it'd take a helluva column to get me to watch the Super Bowl these days. Gyah!
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SteveJRogers Oct 23 2013 04:43 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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True, but you do get a deluge of social media users proudly proclaiming that they won't be watching, or just for commercials/movie trailers.
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G-Fafif Oct 23 2013 04:46 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
I imagine Fox would be fine with people tuning in just for the commercials tonight.
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Ashie62 Oct 23 2013 05:10 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Without the Mets I could care less about the WS...
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metirish Oct 23 2013 07:35 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Sox up 5-0 but Cardinals have bases loaded in the 4th with one out.
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metirish Oct 23 2013 07:37 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
and nothing comes of that situation..
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d'Kong76 Oct 23 2013 07:40 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Seems the Sawx have some magic in 'em tonight, except
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 23 2013 07:44 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Would've been 8-0. Bruised his ribs hitting the wall, and he'll head to the hospital.
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metirish Oct 23 2013 07:56 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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ugh, makes it hard to buy into the whole B Strong thing, B assholes alright.
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Zvon Oct 23 2013 08:04 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Good game if you don't really care who wins. Big hits, great catches, controversal calls, WOW! another great catch right there by Robinson.
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metirish Oct 23 2013 08:06 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Yeah, loading problems seem to persist.
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Zvon Oct 23 2013 08:07 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Great catch by Beltraan and he did hit that wall hard but if he didn't have to be taken off the field on a stretcher I don't understand why he's outta the game. If he has a broken rib I'll understand. Anything short of that and I'm a tad disappointed in Mr. Beltraan. Great catch though.
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d'Kong76 Oct 23 2013 08:07 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
The hosting company of the board has been having issues
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Zvon Oct 23 2013 08:29 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Bummer. I was ready to jump on the Beltraan bandwagon if he took his post season rep/success into the actual World Series. I'm still ready and wish him well, but this is a wussy start. GO BOSTON! OE: Sometimes I get an error message when I try to switch pages. I took a screen shot and if anyone needs to see it just lemme know. Says SQL ERROR and more stuff.
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Frayed Knot Oct 23 2013 08:34 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
BoSox look to be on their way to their 9th consecutive WS game win following their sweeps in 2004 & 2007.
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dinosaur jesus Oct 23 2013 08:36 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Not to mock a Marine or anything, but that "God Bless America" was cheesy in a way you don't hear a lot anymore.
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metirish Oct 23 2013 08:36 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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damn, good info
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 23 2013 08:39 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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I did like the Rob Halford-y hand motions, though.
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metirish Oct 23 2013 08:46 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Ortiz - wow
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 23 2013 08:48 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Lordawmighty. Off a pretty tough lefty in Seagrist, too.
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 23 2013 09:02 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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That's because they're too busy writing about what commercials to look forward to seeing. At least World Series coverage is still about the game and not about The Show.
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SteveJRogers Oct 23 2013 09:07 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Unreal. Speaking of quirkiness, Game 5 of that aforementioned series was the last postseason game the franchise won until Pedro Martinez won Game 1 of the 1998 ALDS 11-3 against Cleveland, their only win of that series (though they'd defeat Cleveland in 5 the next year), a streak of 13 postseason games (last two of the '86 series, ALCSs against the A's in 1988 and 1990, and the 1995 ALDS against Cleveland.
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Zvon Oct 23 2013 09:09 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Yea, I like how he acted it out.
Wow.
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 23 2013 09:12 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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He was taken to Mass General Hospital, so I have to think it's pretty serious. Either way, I hate that he got hurt both because he's the one Cardinal I like, and because I want to see the Red Sox defeat their opponent at full-strength. And of course, I just don't like seeing guys get hurt.
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metirish Oct 23 2013 09:14 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
I tweeted that with credit I was so impressed.
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 23 2013 09:16 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Ryan Dempster enters the game to "Blurred Lines."
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metirish Oct 23 2013 09:18 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
and Holliday twerks that one over the Monster...or as Joe Buck said he pounded it.....Robin Thicke would be proud.
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Frayed Knot Oct 23 2013 09:20 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Plus, if you've ever read the Washington Post, you'll understand that if Boswell doesn't call attention to the WS then certainly nobody else will. Spring time in DC is noted by the arrival of the cherry blossoms and by the Post sports section cutting back to only 80% Redskins coverage.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 23 2013 09:23 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Come on and take me 450 feet to dead center
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Zvon Oct 23 2013 09:25 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Freese play woke me up.
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 23 2013 09:26 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Totally skeeved out now, thanks.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 23 2013 09:27 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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So, do they, like, shave now?
I'm fairly certain he's not opting out of his first World Series because he feels a little "meh." (I also feel compelled to remind you that he's playing on knees that PRETTY MUCH HAVE NO CARTILAGE IN THEM.)
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 23 2013 09:30 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
I just don't like the look of Carlos' arm compressing into his body in the replays.
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metirish Oct 23 2013 09:36 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Anyway, Lester was great tonight. I don't think I realized how good he is.
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dinosaur jesus Oct 23 2013 09:39 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
I've always wanted to see a 9-3 putout, and Freese almost gave me my wish. Is that just some weird instinct that makes players slide into first, or does somebody actually coach that?
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Zvon Oct 23 2013 09:46 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Yea, I'm just bein a dick. I want to see him play, that's all. Hope he comes back and has a series for the ages.
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Zvon Oct 23 2013 09:50 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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They say you are faster just running over the bag, so I doubt they teach it. I'm not a fan of sliding into first unless for show, cause it does look kool. But in this instance I think it was a heads up thing to do. I was surprised to see Victorino throw it, surprised to see Freese slide, and surprised that they called it right.
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Frayed Knot Oct 24 2013 06:42 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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In that case it was the LEAST heads-up thing to do. With the throw coming from that angle there's ZERO chance of a tag play meaning there's even less reason to slide than in most plays at 1st where the slide is (almost) always a bad idea in the first place. Wouldn't have bothered me if the ump thumbed him out just for being stupid. It was Bang-Bang anyway.
I can't remember if I've even seen it before on a position player. More than a few pitchers wind up victims because the RF often plays so shallow. What would REALLY be cool would be to see a CF or LF pull it off. I did it one time from LF in a softball game (man was that guy embarrassed!) but somehow that doesn't seem quite like the same thing.
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Centerfield Oct 24 2013 07:25 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Couple of random thoughts after watching the game:
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Ceetar Oct 24 2013 07:37 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
not to mention holding onto the ball despite the catch hurting so badly he bruised his ribs.
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Frayed Knot Oct 24 2013 07:47 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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I was actually going to start a thread yesterday saying how there may be nothing less useful at this time of year than columnists penning articles that say: [Local Team] should follow the [World Series participant's] blueprint for building a championship. (and yeah, I'm looking at you Bill Madden - as well as others) Y'know what the best formula for building a championship is? ... Have all the shit you did go right for you at the same time and have as few injuries as possible. Once you master that "skill" you'll get more after-the-fact praise than you know what to do with and your "method" will be declared the new trend. Not that I'm trying to say it's all luck or anything, or that do-do moves should only be criticized in hindsight. But it's amazing how smart one can look when your manager can run the same lineup out there almost every night and role players suddenly emerge in exactly the right spot and exactly the right time.
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Centerfield Oct 24 2013 07:50 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
By the way, does anyone even question that there is someone watching the replay and relaying this to the home plate ump so he can reverse clearly blown calls?
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Ceetar Oct 24 2013 07:58 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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If I was a winning manager/GM I'd so get crazy. "I owe much of our success to booze in the clubhouse to unwind after games" "We put in a lot of hard work but we owe our success to a good piece of toast every morning and our sponsorship by the Toast Marketing Board." "We hold group singalongs after losses, and the pitcher that took the L has the lead solo. Great clubhouse bonding that allowed us to capture the title." "We practice by running the bases backwards. Really keeps our reflexes sharp on the basepaths."
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Frayed Knot Oct 24 2013 08:03 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Not so much a bug in the ear but they absolutely showed the replay on the big screen at the park (you could hear the crowd reaction on at least two different occasions) which makes you wonder if any or all of the other five umps saw it there and decided to correct the call on that basis.
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Edgy MD Oct 24 2013 08:06 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
"We scout these kids early. There's a special type we're looking for. Rush tee-shirts. Aloofness. Don't wear their jackets in the winter. That sort of kid. Champions."
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metirish Oct 24 2013 08:07 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
joe Torre claimed that he knew the umps would converse because he saw them "collapse" on the ump in question...a sure sign to him the the other umps saw something different. John Farrell says he asked the umps to converse.
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Frayed Knot Oct 24 2013 08:16 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Looking into this a bit: The Cardinals, who platooned at SS, got 500 or more plate appearances this season from the other 7 positions. Allen Craig was their big injury and he missed all of 3 weeks (plus the first two post-season rounds). 3 other players got between 300 & 400 PAs And the BoSox also got 500 PAs from 7 different players and between 300 & 400 from 3 others. I kept hearing how injured Ellsbury was all season yet he got over 600 PAs By contrast, the Mets had ONE player over 500 (Muffy) and the Yanx had 3
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Centerfield Oct 24 2013 08:21 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Oh, and by the way, I could watch the highlight of that ball falling between Wainwright and Yadier Fucking Molina on loop all day.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 24 2013 08:22 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
That.
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metirish Oct 24 2013 08:25 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
A little conspiracy...Lester using vaseline.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 24 2013 08:30 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Nice. Lester is the kind of guy who would use vaseline, of that I have no doubt, and those few captures do look fishy, but fair fucks to him for getting away with it.
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Edgy MD Oct 24 2013 08:38 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Tim Marchman, makes the "there"/"their" error.
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metirish Oct 24 2013 08:44 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Isn't pine tar black?
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Ceetar Oct 24 2013 08:49 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
pitch f/x shows no deviant movement on pitches however.
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MFS62 Oct 24 2013 09:03 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Deadspin is going to get a letter from Unilever, the company that produces Vaseline Brand Pertoleum Jelly ever since they bought Cheesebrough-Pond's Inc. When I worked for CPI, they were very protective of that brand name, trying to keep it from coming a generic through common usage. So, every time a paper carried a story about Gaylord Perry throwing the "Vaseline ball", the Corporate Law department would send them a letter. It would ask them to call it just a "pertoleum jelly ball" or a "grease ball" without using the copyrighted brand name. One time, Associated press had a story about Perry that was picked up by over 5,000 papers and other media outlets around the country. And CPI sent a letter to every one spotted by their clipping service. Now that we cited this, CPI would probably try to send us one, too, but I'm not sure how they handle stories on the Internet. Later
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metirish Oct 24 2013 09:29 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Incredible, so vaseline is the brand name and not the actual product?, we should be calling it petroleum jelly?
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Ceetar Oct 24 2013 09:36 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Dumpster is a brand name as well.
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metirish Oct 24 2013 09:37 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
I can't handle all this learning...
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Ashie62 Oct 24 2013 12:50 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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It is called ball lube..
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G-Fafif Oct 24 2013 01:06 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Times salutes people watching WS games in daytime from when that used to be necessary. This one stretches the boundaries of the concept just a bit, back to the climax of the previous round, but we'll take it.
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Frayed Knot Oct 24 2013 02:28 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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IIRC, Xerox is an example of a company which lost control over its name, at least in one aspect. Because XEROX had introduced the first marketable paper copier, the phrase 'making a Xerox copy' was used so often to describe the process that it was eventually ruled to have become common enough in general use that it was no longer something the company could claim as a copyright. Obviously that doesn't mean another company could manufacture a copy machine and simply stamp the name XEROX on it, but they could not be legally barred for saying their product was great for making "xerox copies" of your tax returns. Vaseline, Dumpster, and even Velcro I believe, remain copyrighted names despite their use in common language.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 24 2013 05:57 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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You don't hear many people ask for an "adhesive bandage" or a "cola," either.
Hell, I'd be Barry Bonds, minus the 'roids, but plus a couple of florid-cursing-at-press-conference incidents and juvenile-and-mean-prank-on-reporter kerfuffles.
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Zvon Oct 24 2013 06:23 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Well, Beltraan's back and all is well. Singled in the first. Had a check swing and he looked okay, no pain.
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metirish Oct 24 2013 06:39 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
OMFG, the way Buck and McCarver are fellating Wacha you'd be forgiven if you thought he was Christy Mathewson.
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metirish Oct 24 2013 06:42 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Gomes is a winner...has he ever actually won anything?
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Zvon Oct 24 2013 07:12 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
That was one kool ricochet. If it didn't get caught up in the bottom of the wall that coulda been an inside the parker.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 24 2013 07:17 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
ESPN radio playing a Rangers game instead of the World Series.
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Frayed Knot Oct 24 2013 07:21 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Hey, he's been on three -- COUNT 'EM, THREE -- post-season teams during his eleven year career! His first two teams lost in the first round. This BoSox team is his third. IOW, he's now 2-2 in playoff series for his career.
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Zvon Oct 24 2013 07:23 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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That's messed up. Big DP. I thought the Sox were gonna answer right back. Here's that Gnomes guy. OOO, that was a nasty strike from Wacha. And he pops out.
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Frayed Knot Oct 24 2013 07:24 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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That's why the Mets didn't want to take their radiocasts to ESPN, too many conflicts. And with the national broadcasts, baseball often isn't the Four-Letter Network's top priority.
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Zvon Oct 24 2013 07:59 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
[bigpurple:120am9qw]PAPBOOM![/bigpurple:120am9qw]
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SteveJRogers Oct 24 2013 08:13 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Still nothing compared to Howard Cosell though. The way he talked up Scott McGregor in 1979, you'd think the O's not only had the next Jim Palmer, but a combo of him, Seaver and Carlton in one pitcher!
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Edgy MD Oct 24 2013 08:14 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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How did he behave? Did he carry himself appropriately around the bases?
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SteveJRogers Oct 24 2013 08:15 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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To be fair, neither was the national broadcast when it was on WFAN and there was a Ranger/Knick conflict pre-ESPN or Net/Devil conflict post-ESPN.
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Zvon Oct 24 2013 08:17 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Very business like.
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Zvon Oct 24 2013 08:24 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
whoa,WOW!
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 24 2013 08:59 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Nubby little leadoff hit for Ellsbury, with the Boston lineup meat due up next?
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 24 2013 09:01 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
And... it does.
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Frayed Knot Oct 24 2013 09:29 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
After Papi smacked the first pitch he saw off the lefty reliever in Game 1, I would have left Martinez in there too.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 24 2013 09:33 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Oh, granted. It was the pitch-around that got me preemptively second-guessing.
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Frayed Knot Oct 24 2013 09:41 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
And yet Carlos Martinez had a 5+ ERA and 1.4+ WHiP this season.
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 24 2013 09:49 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Freakin' Cardinals. I hate 'em.
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metirish Oct 25 2013 06:33 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Can the baseball media please fuck off with their self righteous digs at "NY area" baseball fans(mets fans) who think Beltran is soft...."hey NY area fans, you think Beltran is still soft?"....fuck off...I am sick and tired of you and quite frankly Beltran too.
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Edgy MD Oct 25 2013 07:37 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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May be the post of the thread right there. Anything could still happen, but that was well played.
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metirish Oct 25 2013 07:47 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Thanks, pretty easy when McCarver is uttering such nonsense...I think his words were " a proven winner wherever he has played" .
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MFS62 Oct 25 2013 07:51 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Y'mean a late inning relief pitcher is allowed to pitch more than one inning?
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batmagadanleadoff Oct 26 2013 04:18 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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The NYT catches up with the uni-conscious and detail oriented DeWitt On Baseball Cardinals’ History Remains in the Details By TYLER KEPNER Published: October 25, 2013
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/26/sport ... html?_r=1&
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 26 2013 05:02 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Sounds anal.
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Frayed Knot Oct 26 2013 06:48 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
If the Red Sox had even average arms in left field they might have won Game 2 and would only be down 1-0 so far here.
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d'Kong76 Oct 26 2013 07:03 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Anyone catch the bird falling to a crash on that muffed
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 26 2013 08:46 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
It would be only be appropriate if Beltran tipped his hat in Victorino's direction after that not-moving-out-of-the-way HBP.
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Zvon Oct 26 2013 08:51 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
OOO, nice slide by Beltraan. That HBP was bullshit.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 26 2013 08:54 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
BOOOOOOOO, HOLLIDAY! SHOULD HAVE BUNTED! #PlayTheRightWay
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metirish Oct 26 2013 09:18 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Why are the Cardinals wearing tops sporting St.louis at home?
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Frayed Knot Oct 26 2013 09:24 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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That's their (new this season I believe) alternate third jersey which they wear only on home Saturdays. Normally both their home and road jerseys have the same script 'Cardinals' on them, just differing in the gray or white.
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Zvon Oct 26 2013 09:26 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
I really like those jerseys.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 26 2013 09:26 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Kolten Mothertruckin' Wong.
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Zvon Oct 26 2013 09:26 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Wow, tied in the 8th.
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metirish Oct 26 2013 09:30 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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thanks FK...they are nice...
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 26 2013 09:32 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Pete MotherTruckin' Kozma.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 26 2013 09:43 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Holliday jammed. Game stays tied. On to the ninth.
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Zvon Oct 26 2013 09:50 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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exactly. Great baseball. We've seen a little of everything this post.
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Frayed Knot Oct 26 2013 09:51 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
I kind of like this strategy by Farrell and the Sox -- let your pitcher hit because it's Rosenthal's 2nd and probably last inning and with 8-9-1 you probably weren't going to score anyway.
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Frayed Knot Oct 26 2013 09:52 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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See the articles BatMags posted at the end of the previous page on this thread. The NYTimes article talks all about this particular uni and the StL obsession with them.
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metirish Oct 26 2013 10:03 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Wild finish
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Zvon Oct 26 2013 10:03 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
no,no,no
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Zvon Oct 26 2013 10:05 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Wow, that was exciting. And different. Crazy end.
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Frayed Knot Oct 26 2013 10:06 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
3B ump indicated obstruction immediately so the home plate ump had no choice but to call the runner safe.
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metirish Oct 26 2013 10:07 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Baseball really is a great game......wow
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Zvon Oct 26 2013 10:09 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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agreed :)
What's the rule? Does it have to be intentional or does that matter in any way? Because that wasn't intentional.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 26 2013 10:09 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
"Come on. Really? I'm really not sure that interference call should have been made there."
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Frayed Knot Oct 26 2013 10:14 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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I guess technically Middlebrooks, because he didn't have the ball, can't block the runner from trying to advance. The rule is, that once obstruction is indicated, the play is allowed to play out and it becomes a judgement call as to whether the runner would have advanced had he not been interfered with. Craig was clearly out at home but had he not fallen over the prone Middlebrooks he probably would have made it. McCarver is saying that intent has nothing to do with it which, while true, doesn't mean that every UNintentional obstruction results in an automatic free base.
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Zvon Oct 26 2013 10:16 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
They say unintended obstruction is obstruction. So good call, great new way to see a ballgame end. Too bad it's a World Series game Boston.
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Zvon Oct 26 2013 10:18 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Thanks for the extended view. Yea, if he didn't go down he scores ahead of the throw that just nipped him. Hey, good thing we didn't have to see that happen to the Mets, huh?
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 26 2013 10:27 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Bullshit call, but the game was all but lost on Farrell's questionable moves anyway.
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 26 2013 10:54 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Look at the direction Jim Joyce is facing as Craig pushes Middlebrooks into the ground.
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86-Dreamer Oct 27 2013 06:01 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Craig had a clear path around 3B. But, regardless of intent, he takes a step instead toward 2B. why doesn't he then have to retouch third?
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 27 2013 07:50 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Stupid Red Socks and their throwing errors.
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MFS62 Oct 27 2013 08:32 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Its really fun watching the World Series reports on the pro- Boston tv stations up here in Connecticut. Just as I turned off the sports report, they were blaming the interference call from last night's game on not burning enough witches in Salem. As for the direction Jim Joyce is facing, it looks like he is following the throw, to see if it went into the stands or if a fan touched the ball. From the replays I saw this morning, the home plate ump made the interference call. Later
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Frayed Knot Oct 27 2013 09:07 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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No, a wider shot where you can see that entire side of the diamond shows Joyce turning back and clearly making the call with the home plate ump acknowledging it immediately afterward. On an obstruction call the obstruction is indicated (as it was by Joyce) but play is allowed to continue. Only after the play is over does it become a judgement call as to whether or not they believe the obstruction prevented the runner from safely advancing. The home ump did so immediately by signaling safe despite the obvious tag (and Craig never touching the base) and quickly pointed toward 3B as the reason. Sox fans may remember a similar play from a playoff game a few years ago where they benefitted. In that one, Oakland's Miguel Tejada was obstructed rounding 3rd but then stopped halfway to home to complain about it. Because he did he was not awarded the base, just as had Craig been out by a larger margin last night the umps could have still called him out despite the obstruction*. What's kind of funny is that, between the reversed dropped-ball call at 2nd in Game 1 and now this obstruction deal in Game 3, we've had two of the three games ending with one of the managers giving a near identical post-game quote along the lines of: 'maybe it was technically the right call but, in that situation, it's a tough one to swallow' * That was what should have happened in that Zeile/Knoblauch obstruction call during the inter-league game a bunch of years back. If you recall that one, not only did the 1st base ump allow coach Mazzilli to talk him into the obstruction but it was one where Knoblauch barely had to dip his shoulder in order to get around Zeile and wound up being out by about 17 feet despite only slightly breaking stride.
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metirish Oct 27 2013 06:43 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Sorry but McCarver sounds like a babbling fool tonight, he really sounded incoherent in trying to explain the reason the obstruction rule should be looked at by the rules committee ...I felt bad for him actually.
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metirish Oct 27 2013 07:12 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Beltran knocks in the first run of the game ....1-0 in the 3rd.
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d'Kong76 Oct 27 2013 07:12 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
The more I look at that historical play, I think there was
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Frayed Knot Oct 27 2013 07:16 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
McCarver has stumbled over his words several times in this series.
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d'Kong76 Oct 27 2013 07:19 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Stand up, get back on your feet ... but no, he stuck 'em
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d'Kong76 Oct 27 2013 07:22 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Funny, I thought he looked a little extra 'happy' in the opening comments ... maybe a few glasses of wine at dinner. Hell, why not ... it's his swan song. Thank god
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 27 2013 07:28 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Joyce said the legs didn't matter. What he didn't see was Craig pushing off on Middlebrooks back forcing Middlebrooks back into the ground. Without that push they both may be able to stand at the same time and Middlebrooks may get out of the way. Maybe it doesn't change anything, and I doubt the push was intentional, but I've seen no one address how this push could be a mitigating factor.
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 27 2013 07:32 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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We've been watching the MLB International stream. There's no bells & whistles (such in game interviews, celebrity promos, etc) or missed action coming back from the commercials. The announcers are Gary Thorne (who is pretty good) and Rick Sutcliffe (who is apparently a McCarver acolyte, but doesn't have the whiny, nasal voice that gets under my skin so he's easy to ignore). It's kind of nice to have an alternative.
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d'Kong76 Oct 27 2013 07:34 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
I say the legs matter too!
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 27 2013 07:36 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Yeah, but you're not the ump. He said that body was in the way and the legs were of no consideration. The fact of the matter is that Jim Joyce made a judgment call and was wrong. The Cardinals got a gift-wrapped win. But in the end it won't matter because there are four more games to play.
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metirish Oct 27 2013 07:42 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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I like Thorne, Sutcliffe is one of those guys that seems to talk very low in a monotone voice....except of course when he's drunk in the booth, then all bets are off.
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d'Kong76 Oct 27 2013 07:44 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
If he said legs were of no consideration, he was wrong on
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metirish Oct 27 2013 07:49 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
That Bogartes kid has had some of the best at bats in this series....really like him
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Frayed Knot Oct 27 2013 07:49 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Wow! Ortiz now with 7 of the Sox' 20 hits in the series (and their only two HRs).
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metirish Oct 27 2013 07:49 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
shold note followed by a guy Drew who has had some of the worst.....and he pops out but a run scores.
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Frayed Knot Oct 27 2013 07:51 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
That was chance-y and that was close.
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metirish Oct 27 2013 07:53 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Yeah, if Ortiz doesn't do that slide of his maybe the ball beats him because his legs hit Molina's hand.
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Frayed Knot Oct 27 2013 07:54 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
No Timmy, he went back to 2nd because the throw was low enough to be cut off by Freese at 3rd, not because he was afraid of Molina coming up with it. Had Gomes gone further off the base as you suggest Freese would have (or at least could have) made the cut and had Gomes hung up. If I'm the Cards I'll trade a run for two outs on that play.
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Frayed Knot Oct 27 2013 07:57 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
What's that, five mound visits by Molina this inning alone?
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Zvon Oct 27 2013 07:58 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Funny you guys noticed this. Earlier in the broadcast, much early on, he was saying something, something to do with a catcher and catching, and I thought just that: that he was babbling like a fool. I like Tim overall. He'll be missed.
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Zvon Oct 27 2013 08:23 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
I'd say Gnomes is a lil pumped. Lil bit.
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Frayed Knot Oct 27 2013 08:25 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
I like to think that that HR was payback karma for the Cards using far too many mound visits.
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Frayed Knot Oct 27 2013 08:51 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Drew is a much better defensive SS than I realized.
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Zvon Oct 27 2013 08:59 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Zvon Oct 27 2013 08:59 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
He's not going anywhere near Beltraan.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 27 2013 09:31 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Holy hell, there are a LOT of Dutch shortstops in the majors all of a sudden, aren't there?
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 27 2013 09:32 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
With an induced grounder, John Lackey says, "Honey, I'm leaving you... stranded on third."
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Frayed Knot Oct 27 2013 09:34 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
For once the Cards DON'T take advantage of Boston miscues - multiple ones in this case.
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 27 2013 09:37 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Nice move putting Lackey in for the inning even if Bogaerts and Ross nearly sabotaged it.
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 27 2013 09:37 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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You can tell by their wooden cleats.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 27 2013 09:47 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Red Sox down in order, and we're on to the bottom of the ninth.
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 27 2013 09:51 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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You're en fuego tonight.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 27 2013 09:51 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Really, it's, like, 70 percent pubic playoff beard.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 27 2013 09:52 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Kolten Wong now available.
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Zvon Oct 27 2013 09:52 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
WOW! Another novel way to end a game! Good series! :)
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Frayed Knot Oct 27 2013 09:52 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
You have GOT to be kidding me!!!
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 27 2013 09:54 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
SWING THE BAT, BELTRAN
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 27 2013 09:57 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Even.
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Frayed Knot Oct 27 2013 09:57 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Looking at that on the replay, it was really a bit of luck for Uehara; he started his pickoff move exactly as Wong took an extra step to lengthen his lead and, as a result, got caught leaning the wrong way on a play where he almost certainly wasn't planning on going anywhere.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 27 2013 10:08 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Show's on, Best Fans in Baseball!
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 27 2013 10:14 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Whoa!
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Frayed Knot Oct 27 2013 10:19 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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I've long found Cardinal fans to be MUCH MORE negative than their constantly-sunny image suggests.
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Zvon Oct 27 2013 10:23 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Yikes!
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 27 2013 10:26 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
#HowGame5WillEnd trending on Twitter. Worth checking out.
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 27 2013 10:36 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Just a followup, the MLB International broadcast was not showing a Cardinals fan when Wong was picked off.
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Frayed Knot Oct 28 2013 06:29 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
So I wonder if any ESPN talking heads have credited Uehara with "a walk-off pick-off" yet.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 28 2013 06:56 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Carpenter Good News: Six strikeouts and just two hits through three!
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 28 2013 07:03 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Another night of the biggest city in America tuned into Piscataway.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 28 2013 07:04 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Um, generous call by Bill Miller on a Lester 3-2 inside cutter cools the Cardinals' simmering stew. On to the fourth.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 28 2013 07:08 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Chris Carpenter's vocal timbre during his in-game dugout interview brings to mind a really, really really boring special edition of the old "Quiet Storm."
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 28 2013 07:16 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
HOLLIDAY! CELEBRA-ATE!
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metirish Oct 28 2013 07:25 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Drew at the plate might yet cost his team...awful slump he's in.
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 28 2013 08:09 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Salt-and-pepper beard with the ground rule double for an RBI!
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 28 2013 08:12 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Stretch time.
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metirish Oct 28 2013 08:12 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
You run Ross there?
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 28 2013 08:14 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Is Mike Matheny going all LaGenius by not relieving Wainwright there?
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Frayed Knot Oct 28 2013 08:14 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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I was thinking NO as the play was developing, mainly because it was Pedroia and Papi coming up and Ross isn't fast. He did get a good jump though and the play was reasonably close despite a strong even if slightly off-line throw, so it's tough to second guess the call too much.
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metirish Oct 28 2013 08:18 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
It was close but the replay showed the throw was bad really, a good throw gets Ross by 20 feet?
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Frayed Knot Oct 28 2013 08:22 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
It's tags like that that make me fear increased replay rules.
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 28 2013 08:28 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
I think replay rules (in all sports) should have time limit. If you can't make a conclusive decision in 30 seconds, the call on the field stands.
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 28 2013 08:29 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
You cannot stop Big Papi.
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d'Kong76 Oct 28 2013 08:30 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
BIGPURPLEPapi is batting like .750 this series. Just saying.
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metirish Oct 28 2013 08:33 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Relax with the Pedro comparisons , Johnny Cueto and the other fella were the next Pedro's too.
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seawolf17 Oct 28 2013 08:38 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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PAPI[/bigpurple]
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 28 2013 08:43 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Koji Uehara is "loose" and "warm," according to old pervert Tim McCarver.
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metirish Oct 28 2013 08:46 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Hughie Hara is lights out
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 28 2013 08:49 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
That was an incredibly quick out. I swear I only saw two pitches.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 28 2013 08:49 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Dude's 38. 38!
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Frayed Knot Oct 28 2013 08:50 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
This game actually has a shot at coming in in under three hours!!
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d'Kong76 Oct 28 2013 09:00 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Books! On to Beantown to finish off the birds-on-the-bat!
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 28 2013 09:01 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Koji Uehara wants ALL the MVPs.
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metirish Oct 28 2013 09:02 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Hard to see them lose now....the closer is just unreal.
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Frayed Knot Oct 28 2013 09:03 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Uehara is fun to watch too: works fast, throws strikes, and a ton of emotion.
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metirish Oct 28 2013 09:04 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
What's his history?
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Frayed Knot Oct 28 2013 09:05 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Funniest part about these interviews: in the pre-game how much shorter Ken Rosenthal is than whoever he interviews, and then Erin Andrews towering over Pedroia.
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 28 2013 09:10 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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And THAT is the unexpected winner of the #HowGame5WillEnd contest!
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Frayed Knot Oct 28 2013 09:15 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Five seasons over here, starting with Baltimore in 2009 where he was a starter. Most recently he was cut by the Rangers at the end of last season and signed by Boston for a one year deal, then was famously their 4th choice for closer this year. Only been closing since July.
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MFS62 Oct 28 2013 09:35 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
One of the announcers (Hersheiser on radio?) said that he has the lowest WHIP in major league history.
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Frayed Knot Oct 29 2013 07:16 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
0.829 for his MLB career - and 0.71 if you take away his 1st season as a starter, the only season where his WHiP was over 1.00
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 29 2013 10:18 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Just an idle thought about the two cardinal birds sitting on the bat on the Cardinals uniform. It occurs to me that it makes sense to have two birds since the Cardinals team name is plural. The other bird teams - the Blue Jays and the Orioles - do not to my knowledge have a logo or uniform design with multiple iterations of their bird.
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G-Fafif Oct 29 2013 11:37 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Roger Angell is blogging the 2013 World Series, for goodness sake.
Sweetie pies!
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G-Fafif Oct 29 2013 11:44 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Angell on Game Three:
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G-Fafif Oct 29 2013 11:49 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Angell on Game Two.
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G-Fafif Oct 29 2013 11:53 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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And Angell on Game One:
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 29 2013 11:56 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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I call dibs on this for my band name.
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dinosaur jesus Oct 29 2013 02:05 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Can someone explain that bit about David Ross's grandfather? Did the old guy just give him a scare, or does he mean something a lot nastier than that?
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Frayed Knot Oct 29 2013 02:19 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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They think about protesting but then see the paychecks their guys bring home and quickly change their minds.
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Lefty Specialist Oct 29 2013 02:20 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Damn, Roger Angell is 93. Looks like he's trying to get all the adjectives and extra commas out of his system before he himself thromboses.
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G-Fafif Oct 30 2013 09:15 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Angell, Game Five.
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 30 2013 12:16 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Sports Illustrated has Koji's story.
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m.e.t.b.o.t. Oct 30 2013 03:00 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
when m.e.t.b.o.t. isn't languishing on a dusty shelf waiting to once again be permitted to perform schaefer voting tabulations, ideally for an entire season for once, or successfully avoiding the grabby hands of increasingly larger male children, m.e.t..b.o.t. occasionally likes to peruse the internet.
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Zvon Oct 30 2013 06:12 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Cardinals see no reason to run hard in the first. Why run hard when they are playing a perfect shift?
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Zvon Oct 30 2013 06:14 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Zvon Oct 30 2013 07:10 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Boom! Love the sound of that ball hitting the green monster. It could all end tonight folks.
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Zvon Oct 30 2013 07:17 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
ooo,choke.
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metirish Oct 30 2013 07:18 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
That was very cool for Farrell to acknowledge McCarver during the in-game interview.
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Zvon Oct 30 2013 07:22 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Twas. Freese froze. How could he not be ready for a fastball there?
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metirish Oct 30 2013 07:26 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Wacha is getting clattered....or whacked I guess.
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Frayed Knot Oct 30 2013 07:27 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
I had an inkling Wacha's bubble was going to burst tonight.
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Zvon Oct 30 2013 07:29 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Didn't want the Cards to win, but did want to see Wacha do well. Be fantastic even. But the Gods Of Baseball declare him pedestrian tonight.
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metirish Oct 30 2013 07:30 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Pedroia doesn't get cheated up there does he?
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d'Kong76 Oct 30 2013 07:31 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Fear the BIGPURPLE Papi
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metirish Oct 30 2013 07:38 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Victorino up again with the bases loaded....curtains
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Zvon Oct 30 2013 07:38 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Damn it's gonna end tonight. Boston finally wins it in Boston. Good story.
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Zvon Oct 30 2013 07:40 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
There is something a lil appealling about seeing St. Lou getting ASSWHUPPED!
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metirish Oct 30 2013 08:01 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
St. Louis needed to get some runs on the board right there....
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metirish Oct 30 2013 08:06 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Elsbury gets caught in a run down.......but runs, and runs and gets back to 1st.....terrible from St. Louis.
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Zvon Oct 30 2013 08:07 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Too bad the best fans in baseball are stuck watching some pretty pathetic play from their team.
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Frayed Knot Oct 30 2013 08:18 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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I wonder if they'll blame it all on Matheny the way they used to blame it all on LaRussa.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 30 2013 08:19 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
In all seriousness, guys, John Lackey is a pretty fucking terrible "feel-good story."
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Frayed Knot Oct 30 2013 08:19 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
1st Otiz K in 10 post-season games ... Wow!!
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Zvon Oct 30 2013 08:25 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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That is somethin' else.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 30 2013 08:42 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
"Lackey might be losing some steam here. Might want to consider taking him out, John."
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Frayed Knot Oct 30 2013 08:47 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Even in the Game 7 2004/ALCS blowout in Yanqui Stadium, the Sox still managed to get themselves into a mini-dicey situation around the 7th inning (IIRC, it was when they brought Pedro in for an honorary inning of relief).
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Zvon Oct 30 2013 09:12 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Can they play that up any more? He did do great but SHAADDUPalready. Why do I get the sense that Buck has like zero sense of humor? He could even make a joke sound serious.
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Frayed Knot Oct 30 2013 09:24 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Dancin' in the streets of Hyannis
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Zvon Oct 30 2013 09:25 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
YAY! Good series, good post season baseball. Gratz to Boston. Baseball's over again :(
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 30 2013 09:26 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
And there was much rejubiliation.
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Zvon Oct 30 2013 09:29 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
These series ending celebrations look so generic anymore. Same as in the vid games. If I was a player on the last out I'd leap into the stands and jump around with the fans. If they won't let the fans to go on the field they should allow the players into the stands. Right after the last out. They all scatter to different sections and celebrate.
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Mets Guy in Michigan Oct 30 2013 09:40 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Looks like the fireworks might have been a mistake...
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Gwreck Oct 30 2013 09:44 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
A quick aside, I thought it telling that the first thing Jimmy Rollins thinks of re: Phillies fans was vandalism and violence.
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Zvon Oct 30 2013 09:46 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
What must it feel like to be a little kid like that and have 40,000 people roar at your every word?
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Zvon Oct 30 2013 09:52 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Ortiz acts surprised when he's handed the keys of the gigantic truck right next to him. lol.
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Zvon Oct 30 2013 09:54 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
The MVP award is getting like receiving an oscar. That's nice.
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Edgy MD Oct 30 2013 10:40 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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G-Fafif Oct 30 2013 11:28 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Congrats to the Willets Family. Sorry about Beltran.
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 30 2013 11:51 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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metirish Oct 31 2013 06:38 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Congrats , certainly worthy champions , Cherington had some big boots to fill and has done an amazing job. Seriously I look at that roster and go wow, they won the World Series. Players I knew nothing about before the Playoffs but now like a lot....Uehara and Xander Bogaerts.
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Frayed Knot Oct 31 2013 07:23 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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After last year's finish and the big trade-off of last summer, lots of folks were underwhelmed with their roster and picked them to finish at or near the bottom of the AL East. And while Cherrington et al have to get the credit for the results, anytime a team leads most of the season and winds up as the last one standing it means a helluva lot went right for them. You don't want to dismiss it as luck but good teams are usually good AND they're lucky. Every one of the starting eight--starting ten really since they platooned in LF and at 3B--missed little or no time. Including: - Napoli, whose 3-year deal was canceled when he failed his physical. They settled instead on a one-year deal for smaller bucks and he both played every day and adapted to 1B well. When injured deals like that don't work out (Moises Alou) the GM is derided as stupid. - Peroia never missed a game. - Drew at SS was another guy available because of past injuries. This year he got 500 PAs - For 2008-2010 Papi (at age 32-34) averaged .257/.356/.498 -- So the Sox signed the 35 y/o to an extension and he goes .311/.401/.571 for 2011-2013 at ages 35, 36 & 37 It's easy to say deals like that are no-brainers after they work but supposing those years were the beginning of the end rather than a temporary lull? - Ellsbury was on the field for twice as many ABs this season compared to last - Iglesies was an all-glove SS hitting .202 in the minors when he was called up, he then hit .330/.376/.409 in Boston while filling in at two positions before getting dealt for Jake Peavy - Four starters made 27 or more starts including Lackey who had missed all of 2012, Only Buchholz among the regulars missed significant time (he made 16 starts) - And the only place where they were really injured bit was in the pen where their 38 y/o fourth choice turned out to be the best closer in MLB once he got the job.
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 31 2013 08:22 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
The flipside is that the 2012 team had a ridiculous numbers of injuries. With the solid core of the team healthy plus the new signings the "experts" should have been able to predict that the Red Sox would bounce back to having a winning record. I had predicted as much myself thinking they would be over .500 and possibly contend for the playoffs. I even won a bet with a friend when I said they'd have a better record than the Yankees. On the other hand I overestimated the improvements of the Blue Jays and Orioles.
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 31 2013 09:07 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Another great cover, from the St. Louis side of the story.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 31 2013 09:27 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Shocked to see St. Louis media be so forthright with news that their club isn't the special-est.
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metirish Oct 31 2013 09:38 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
The whole 1918 angle got annoying , as noted by Wolf on FB......
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 31 2013 11:10 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Crappy offense? #2 in NL in BA, #1 in NL in OBA, #3 in NL in SLG, #2 in NL in OPS.
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Mets – Willets Point Oct 31 2013 11:20 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Wacha plunking Gomes was his first HBP of his career both majors & minors.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 31 2013 01:18 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Uh, yeah. Whoops. Well, they didn't hit with Boston in this series.
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G-Fafif Oct 31 2013 04:47 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Roger, sixth game.
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d'Kong76 Nov 02 2013 08:15 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Edgy MD Nov 02 2013 10:08 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Theamtically, I like and agree with this very much. Outcomes are very humbling, but Bill James' team nonetheless has won three times this decade. But outcomes remain very humbling.
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Mets – Willets Point Nov 02 2013 11:03 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Red Sox parade stops on Boylston Street to honor victims of Boston Marathon bombing: http://www.boston.com/video/viral_page/ ... ame=823527
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Edgy MD Nov 02 2013 12:15 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
With all respect, that's sort of weird way to approach a somber moment.
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Frayed Knot Nov 03 2013 09:03 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Most recent World Series without an American-born black player: 1950 ... 2013
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Mets – Willets Point Nov 03 2013 10:46 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Words used inevitably by someone who is about to be disrespectful.
Perhaps it's less to do with your age and more to do with your innate cynicism about anything that is meaningful to other peopel
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SteveJRogers Nov 03 2013 11:00 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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Expect that to be part of the ammunition for the "baseball is no longer the sport of choice to participate in or watch in that demographic." I don't think that is something that should be dismissed as TV ratings are though.
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Edgy MD Nov 03 2013 05:56 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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You've really got to stop that nonsense and try talking to people online like they're human beings. The guy approached the line to make a solemn presentation like he was a goofy drunk. He was in the midst of a celebration, and that's hard to mix with solemnity but can make for a symbolically awkward image. That's actually how I feel because I care, not because of " innate cynicism about anything that is meaningful to other peopel." Fucking hell, what did I do to deserve THAT?
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Mets – Willets Point Nov 04 2013 07:18 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
It made me weep. I found it very moving.
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Edgy MD Nov 04 2013 07:41 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
I'm glad for that.
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themetfairy Nov 04 2013 08:02 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
As a runner, and during the weekend of the New York City Marathon (which suffered its own problems last year, albeit not the same as the Boston Marathon's), I also found it to be a moving and appropriate gesture.
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Edgy MD Nov 04 2013 09:48 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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The mother of all "Do what the Sox do" articles from Kevin Kernan.
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Frayed Knot Nov 04 2013 10:45 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
It's just that these columns are so predictable.
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Lefty Specialist Nov 04 2013 02:23 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Sure, all that's true, but I watched them win that World Series and I said to myself, "Bobby Valentine will never manage again".
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Edgy MD Nov 04 2013 02:28 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Maybe not. He sure seemed spent by the end, and laid bare to the point where you wouldn't want to be the next GM looking foolish by getting caught up in his orbit, looking like you bought into his BS. But I wouldn't put it past him to do something crazy like manage Italy or Colombia or Sierra Leone or somebody into the finals of the World Baseball Classic.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 04 2013 02:38 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
I thought the broadcasting gig at SNY could provide a tiny path toward redemption, but I don;t think the exposure gave him enough presence. He needs to step that up a little while also keeping one eye on the degree of outrageousness of his remarks. Slowly build it all up and before long look like the obvious choice to succeed Terry.
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Edgy MD Nov 04 2013 02:50 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Yabbut, at 63, and as restless as he always seems to be, I wonder if he has the patience for the long game.
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metirish Nov 04 2013 04:12 PM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
Surely Bobby gets at least some credit for the great purge of asshole players the Sox got rid of?
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Mets – Willets Point Nov 05 2013 08:10 AM Re: Same Old Same Old Same Old: Threading the 2013 World Ser |
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It's kind of my belief that Francona's laissez faire management style contributed to the players playing with their heads up their ass and the dissolution of 2011. Valentine was the man who had to clean that up and received a lot of the ire of the players, media, and fans as a result. At the very least he was the lightning rod that drew everyone's hatred and thus served as a unifying factor.
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