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going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

metsmarathon Nov 22 2013 11:33 AM

corresponding to my other quiz, i just pulled the list of the metly pitchers with the top 50 WARs for their metly career, according to baseball reference. i then ranked those top 50 according to WAR per 250 innings pitched, as reported again by baseball reference. some obvious names will be in the list, but some not so obvious names may sneak in as well. so, who is in the top ten? 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10.

Ceetar Nov 22 2013 11:34 AM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

minimum 250IP pitcher or no? cause, Matt Harvey.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 22 2013 11:38 AM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

Is there an innings minimum? Are relievers included? Like my man, Armando, who loses out to the vastly inferior Roger McDowell in every all time Mets poll? Who didn't get his mug on one of the 81 home season tickets in the Mets 50th anniversary season?

metsmarathon Nov 22 2013 11:40 AM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

minimum 4.3 metly-career WAR, because ol' roger mcdowell is the met pitcher with the 50th highest WAR total, at a meager 4.3 WAR. mcdowell is at 2.30 WAR/250IP, good for 43rd on the list. so don't use him, okay, he's not a right answer. matt harvery, on the other hand, is already up to 6.7 WAR, in a meager 237 innings. that's a 7.27 WAR/250IP right there, tops on our list. 1. matt harvey 7.27 WAR/250 IP 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 22 2013 11:41 AM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

I was guessing Armando Benitez, not Roger McDowell.

Edgy MD Nov 22 2013 11:43 AM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

Randy Myers.

Edgy MD Nov 22 2013 11:43 AM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

Don Pedro Martinez.

Edgy MD Nov 22 2013 11:44 AM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

Tom Seaver of the Fresno Seavers.

metsmarathon Nov 22 2013 11:46 AM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

cross-posting about roger mcdowell not meriting a spot on the top 50 mets pitchers on a WAR/250 IP basis. cool. armando benitez is of course eligible for consideration, as he has a total of 9.8 WAR, far in excess of roger mcdowell's meager sum. he's our #2. which is perhaps oddly fitting, depending upon how you view his tenure. 1. matt harvey 7.27 WAR/250 IP 2. armando benitez 7.06 WAR/250 IP 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. [u:q1xjs9rt]incorrect answers:[/u:q1xjs9rt] definitely not roger mcdowell, not that anyone would even think of suggesting him as an answer: #43, 2.30 WAR/250 IP

batmagadanleadoff Nov 22 2013 11:46 AM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

I'm going for the esoteric guesses: Rick Reed.

metsmarathon Nov 22 2013 11:49 AM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz) Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 22 2013 11:50 AM

randy myers just misses. #11, 5.10 WAR/250 IP pedro martinez misses by a little more. #20, 4.16 WAR/250 IP tom seaver? now you're talking! 1. matt harvey 7.27 WAR/250 IP 2. armando benitez 7.06 WAR/250 IP 3. 4. tom seaver 6.25 WAR/250 IP 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. incorrect answers: randy myers: #11, 5.10 WAR/250 IP pedro martinez: #20, 4.16 WAR/250 IP definitely not roger mcdowell, not that anyone would even think of suggesting him as an answer: #43, 2.30 WAR/250 IP

Ceetar Nov 22 2013 11:49 AM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

Mike Hampton

batmagadanleadoff Nov 22 2013 11:50 AM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

metsmarathon wrote: armando benitez is of course eligible for consideration, as he has a total of 9.8 WAR, far in excess of roger mcdowell's meager sum. he's our #2. which is perhaps oddly fitting, depending upon how you view his tenure. I can't believe that there are Mets fans on this great forum who think that Ordonez was a great ugly black uniform Met and Armando wasn't a great ugly black uniform Met .

Edgy MD Nov 22 2013 11:52 AM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

Cone. David Cone. David Cone of the Kansas City Cones.

metsmarathon Nov 22 2013 11:52 AM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

rick reed. so close. #14, 4.64 WAR/250 IP dolphin face, on the other hand, makes the cut, despite fewer innings than harvey. 1. matt harvey 7.27 WAR/250 IP 2. armando benitez 7.06 WAR/250 IP 3. 4. tom seaver 6.25 WAR/250 IP 5. 6. mike hampton 5.41 WAR/250 IP 7. 8. 9. 10.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 22 2013 11:54 AM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

My other main man, Jesse Orosco.

Ceetar Nov 22 2013 11:55 AM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

R.A. Dickey

Edgy MD Nov 22 2013 11:56 AM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

Yeah, OK, so I'll say Gooden.

dinosaur jesus Nov 22 2013 12:06 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

Bret Saberhagen.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 22 2013 12:26 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

Jerry Koosman.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 22 2013 12:30 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

Jon Matlack

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 22 2013 04:31 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

El Sid?

Fman99 Nov 22 2013 08:54 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

Bobby O

metsmarathon Nov 25 2013 09:03 AM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

catching up some more... sorry for going dark over the weekend. david cone - surprisingly, no jesse orosco - yup! r.a. dickey - who needs ligaments, amirite? gooden - if only... saberhagen - was so much better than history remembers him koosman - longevity tends to work against getting on this list matlack - a good guess, but no el sid fernandez - el nope bobby ojeda - not even close 1. matt harvey 7.27 WAR/250 IP 2. armando benitez 7.06 WAR/250 IP 3. 4. tom seaver 6.25 WAR/250 IP 5. brett saberhagen 5.53 WAR/250 IP 6. mike hampton 5.41 WAR/250 IP 7. 8. r.a. dickey 5.23 WAR/250 IP 9. 10. jesse orosco 5.12 WAR/250 IP not in top 10: randy myers: #11, 5.10 WAR/250 IP dwight gooden: #13 4.79 WAR/250 IP rick reed: #14, 4.64 WAR/250 IP john matlack: #15 4.59 WAR/250 IP sid fernandez: #18 4.37 WAR/250 IP pedro martinez: #20, 4.16 WAR/250 IP david cone: #23 4.03 WAR/250 IP jerry koosman: #26 3.88 WAR/250 IP bobby ojeda: #33 3.17 WAR/250 IP roger mcdowell: #43, 2.30 WAR/250 IP

Edgy MD Nov 25 2013 09:12 AM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

Tug McGraw.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 25 2013 09:32 AM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

Franco?

86-Dreamer Nov 26 2013 01:24 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

Viola?

Edgy MD Nov 26 2013 01:33 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

Bross?

86-Dreamer Nov 26 2013 04:34 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

Bearnarth?

metsmarathon Dec 02 2013 02:17 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

mcgraw - ya gotta be kidding! franco - john or julio...? because julio never pitched and john isn't in the top fifteen viola - cello bross - in his ten major league metly innings, terry bross notched just 0.3 WAR. this is nowhere near enough to get him onto the top 50 mets pitchers in terms of WAR generated. but on a per-inning ratio, he'd be better than bret saberhagen, gettint a cool 6 WAR/200 IP. bearnarth - surely this guess is beneath you. in almost 320 innings, larry amassed a mere 0.6 WAR. no. no. this is not good. 1. matt harvey 7.27 WAR/250 IP 2. armando benitez 7.06 WAR/250 IP 3. 4. tom seaver 6.25 WAR/250 IP 5. brett saberhagen 5.53 WAR/250 IP 6. mike hampton 5.41 WAR/250 IP 7. 8. r.a. dickey 5.23 WAR/250 IP 9. 10. jesse orosco 5.12 WAR/250 IP not in top 10: randy myers: #11, 5.10 WAR/250 IP dwight gooden: #13 4.79 WAR/250 IP rick reed: #14, 4.64 WAR/250 IP john matlack: #15 4.59 WAR/250 IP sid fernandez: #18 4.37 WAR/250 IP frank viola: #19 4.28 WAR/200 IP pedro martinez: #20, 4.16 WAR/250 IP tug mcgraw: #22 4.04 WAR/200 IP david cone: #23 4.03 WAR/250 IP john franco: #24 3.99 WAR/200 IP jerry koosman: #26 3.88 WAR/250 IP bobby ojeda: #33 3.17 WAR/250 IP roger mcdowell: #43, 2.30 WAR/250 IP unranked pitchers: terry bross: 6.00 WAR/200 IP bearnarth: 0.38 WAR/200 IP if you'd like a hint i'll happily tell you this. the last remaining hitter never faced any of the three remaining pitchers. the last remaining hitter player with one of the pitchers, but not while they were a met. the other two pitchers are one step removed from playing with the hitter, per bbref's oracle of baseball.

seawolf17 Dec 02 2013 02:30 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

Did you people seriously already forget Johan Santana?

Edgy MD Dec 02 2013 02:39 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

Looper.

metsmarathon Dec 02 2013 02:43 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

santana. i'm really shocked. dude throws a freaking no hitter and you forget how good he was. shame on you all! looper. only amassed 2.3 WAR, but did so in 143 innings. he's not on the list, but rates better than john franco. 1. matt harvey 7.27 WAR/250 IP 2. armando benitez 7.06 WAR/250 IP 3. 4. tom seaver 6.25 WAR/250 IP 5. brett saberhagen 5.53 WAR/250 IP 6. mike hampton 5.41 WAR/250 IP 7. 8. r.a. dickey 5.23 WAR/250 IP 9. 10. jesse orosco 5.12 WAR/250 IP not in top 10: randy myers: #11, 5.10 WAR/250 IP dwight gooden: #13 4.79 WAR/250 IP rick reed: #14, 4.64 WAR/250 IP john matlack: #15 4.59 WAR/250 IP sid fernandez: #18 4.37 WAR/250 IP frank viola: #19 4.28 WAR/200 IP pedro martinez: #20, 4.16 WAR/250 IP tug mcgraw: #22 4.04 WAR/200 IP david cone: #23 4.03 WAR/250 IP john franco: #24 3.99 WAR/200 IP jerry koosman: #26 3.88 WAR/250 IP bobby ojeda: #33 3.17 WAR/250 IP roger mcdowell: #43, 2.30 WAR/250 IP unranked pitchers: terry bross: 6.00 WAR/200 IP braden looper: 4.03 WAR/200 IP bearnarth: 0.38 WAR/200 IP

Edgy MD Dec 02 2013 02:47 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

Well, you didn't even paste him into the list.

metsmarathon Dec 02 2013 02:57 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

i'm merely echoing my disgust. also, i made a math error on some of my unrankies. notably, terry bross should be at 7.5 WAR/250 IP. i'd calculated for 200 IP. how comes he only got ten freaking innings pitched from us, anyways? bearnarth looks a little better, but still, bad. looper was correctly calculated. 1. matt harvey 7.27 WAR/250 IP 2. armando benitez 7.06 WAR/250 IP 3. 4. tom seaver 6.25 WAR/250 IP 5. brett saberhagen 5.53 WAR/250 IP 6. mike hampton 5.41 WAR/250 IP 7. johan santana 5.30 WAR/250 IP 8. r.a. dickey 5.23 WAR/250 IP 9. 10. jesse orosco 5.12 WAR/250 IP not in top 10: randy myers: #11, 5.10 WAR/250 IP dwight gooden: #13 4.79 WAR/250 IP rick reed: #14, 4.64 WAR/250 IP john matlack: #15 4.59 WAR/250 IP sid fernandez: #18 4.37 WAR/250 IP frank viola: #19 4.28 WAR/250 IP pedro martinez: #20, 4.16 WAR/250 IP tug mcgraw: #22 4.04 WAR/200 IP david cone: #23 4.03 WAR/250 IP john franco: #24 3.99 WAR/250 IP jerry koosman: #26 3.88 WAR/250 IP bobby ojeda: #33 3.17 WAR/250 IP roger mcdowell: #43, 2.30 WAR/250 IP unranked pitchers: terry bross: 7.50 WAR/250 IP braden looper: 4.03 WAR/250 IP bearnarth: 0.37 WAR/250 IP

seawolf17 Dec 03 2013 01:55 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

Kenny Greer. 0.1 WAR in 1.0 innings, which means he's at 25.0 WAR/250 IP. But seriously, Jae Seo?

Edgy MD Dec 03 2013 02:12 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

Oooohhhh!

seawolf17 Dec 03 2013 02:16 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

NO. Billy Wagner.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 03 2013 02:19 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

Eff Billy Wagner.

Edgy MD Dec 03 2013 02:24 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

No. Jonathon Niese.

metsmarathon Dec 03 2013 02:27 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

seo just misses at 17th. billy wagner and his alpacas are the third best pitcher in terms of WAR/250 IP. still looking for number nine. still surprised either of these took so long. jae seo before the ninth guy? sheesh! no. not jon niese. 1. matt harvey 7.27 WAR/250 IP 2. armando benitez 7.06 WAR/250 IP 3. billy wagner 6.61 WAR/250 IP 4. tom seaver 6.25 WAR/250 IP 5. brett saberhagen 5.53 WAR/250 IP 6. mike hampton 5.41 WAR/250 IP 7. johan santana 5.30 WAR/250 IP 8. r.a. dickey 5.23 WAR/250 IP 9. 10. jesse orosco 5.12 WAR/250 IP not in top 10: randy myers: #11, 5.10 WAR/250 IP dwight gooden: #13 4.79 WAR/250 IP rick reed: #14, 4.64 WAR/250 IP john matlack: #15 4.59 WAR/250 IP jae seo: #17 4.41 WAR/250 IP sid fernandez: #18 4.37 WAR/250 IP frank viola: #19 4.28 WAR/250 IP pedro martinez: #20, 4.16 WAR/250 IP tug mcgraw: #22 4.04 WAR/200 IP david cone: #23 4.03 WAR/250 IP john franco: #24 3.99 WAR/250 IP jerry koosman: #26 3.88 WAR/250 IP bobby ojeda: #33 3.17 WAR/250 IP roger mcdowell: #43, 2.30 WAR/250 IP jonathon niese: #49 1.63 WAR/250 IP unranked pitchers: terry bross: 7.50 WAR/250 IP braden looper: 4.03 WAR/250 IP larry bearnarth: 0.37 WAR/250 IP

seawolf17 Dec 03 2013 02:28 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

It disappoints me that Doc is so low on this list. He should be in the top 5. Stupid drugs.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 03 2013 07:52 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

Darling? Al Leiter? Al Jackson?

Edgy MD Dec 03 2013 08:04 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

No multiple guessing, bitch. Skip Lockwood.

metsmarathon Dec 03 2013 10:01 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

wait, are you calling al leiter your darling, and asking him if he thinks that al jackson is the answer? that's just weird.

Ceetar Dec 06 2013 12:11 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

Orlando Hernandez? Trying to remember if he had sucky time or just hurty time.

metsmarathon Dec 06 2013 12:44 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

no, sorry, leiter had the right answer. i'm just waiting for him to clarify which one it was. multiple guessing. boo. ruins everybody's fun.

Ceetar Dec 06 2013 12:47 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

metsmarathon wrote: no, sorry, leiter had the right answer. i'm just waiting for him to clarify which one it was. multiple guessing. boo. ruins everybody's fun. yeah, I figured but I didn't want to guess what he already guessed but wanted to move things along just cause. Can we go to d WAR with our metly fielders now?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 06 2013 01:00 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

metsmarathon wrote: no, sorry, leiter had the right answer. i'm just waiting for him to clarify which one it was. multiple guessing. boo. ruins everybody's fun. My namesake.

metsmarathon Dec 06 2013 01:04 PM Re: going to WAR with your metly pitchers (quiz)

hooray! i get to close out a quiz! i didn't think it would take quite so long to name al leiter. the other quiz, well, that's a whole 'nother thing entirely. 1. matt harvey 7.27 WAR/250 IP 2. armando benitez 7.06 WAR/250 IP 3. billy wagner 6.61 WAR/250 IP 4. tom seaver 6.25 WAR/250 IP 5. brett saberhagen 5.53 WAR/250 IP 6. mike hampton 5.41 WAR/250 IP 7. johan santana 5.30 WAR/250 IP 8. r.a. dickey 5.23 WAR/250 IP 9. al leiter 5.15 WAR/250 IP 10. jesse orosco 5.12 WAR/250 IP not in top 10: randy myers: #11, 5.10 WAR/250 IP dwight gooden: #13 4.79 WAR/250 IP rick reed: #14, 4.64 WAR/250 IP john matlack: #15 4.59 WAR/250 IP jae seo: #17 4.41 WAR/250 IP sid fernandez: #18 4.37 WAR/250 IP frank viola: #19 4.28 WAR/250 IP pedro martinez: #20, 4.16 WAR/250 IP tug mcgraw: #22 4.04 WAR/200 IP david cone: #23 4.03 WAR/250 IP john franco: #24 3.99 WAR/250 IP jerry koosman: #26 3.88 WAR/250 IP bobby ojeda: #33 3.17 WAR/250 IP ron darling #38 2.48 WAR/250 IP roger mcdowell: #43, 2.30 WAR/250 IP jonathon niese: #49 1.63 WAR/250 IP unranked pitchers: terry bross: 7.50 WAR/250 IP braden looper: 4.03 WAR/250 IP orlando hernandez: 3.69 WAR/250 IP larry bearnarth: 0.37 WAR/250 IP