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Chris Young Is a Met

... love, agape.

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... like, appreciation.

10 votes

... neutrality, apathy.

9 votes

... dislike, antipathy.

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... hate, acrimony.

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Edgy MD Dec 08 2013 04:34 PM

The athletic Athletic joins the Mets for one year and $7.25 million. We shouda polled this at the time. Shoulda, but didn't. [fimg=600]http://snymetsminors.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/chrisyoungoaklandathletics.jpg[/fimg] [fimg=600]http://www.google.com/hostednews/getty/media/ALeqM5iwNHmkpoMnVnpOKy9-c8zjv6m_Og[/fimg]

metirish Dec 08 2013 05:32 PM Re: Chris Young Is a Met

I'm going to be optimistic and hope he has a bounce back year.

Edgy MD Dec 08 2013 05:41 PM Re: Chris Young Is a Met

That's two guys the Mets have signed for the outfield who wear their socks high.

Fman99 Dec 08 2013 05:49 PM Re: Chris Young Is a Met

I'm neutral. He hit .200 last year. That's pretty cruddy.

smg58 Dec 08 2013 06:00 PM Re: Chris Young Is a Met

I don't think he came at enough of a discount given his current career trajectory, but one year won't kill us. I guess I want to see how the rest of the market plays out before deciding if the Mets got value, so I'm neutral for the time being.

Zvon Dec 08 2013 06:00 PM Re: Chris Young Is a Met

My feelings are not listed. Like and confused until things shake out a bit further. If the shake out involves Murphy being gone I'll be changing that, possibly to something unprintable.

Edgy MD Dec 08 2013 06:08 PM Re: Chris Young Is a Met

I'm sorry. Did I forget to mention the gun to your head? Because it's, like, this enormous gun. And the guy holding it has big beefy, sweaty arm. His whole body is sweaty, I think he's been up for about 70 hours by jacking up on energy drinks. I'd answer if I was you.

Frayed Knot Dec 08 2013 06:11 PM Re: Chris Young Is a Met

- He should supply power on a team and at a position where we lacked it pretty severely. - the BA is likely to be low but his above average walk rate partially makes up for that. - can play all OF positions (reportedly quite well) including CF which is a biggie. So instead of now needing Lagares to hit better there's a Plan B if he doesn't. Given all that plus the idea that the downside to this deal is so minimal due to the short-term contract, it's hard to dislike the signing too much. Granderson, by contrast, has both the better upside but also a bigger downside as a result of the approx 2X price and, especially, the 4X length of his deal. I am, therefore, going with the mild version of 'Like'. Optimistic? Yeah maybe. But baseball fans are often in the optimism business.

d'Kong76 Dec 08 2013 07:10 PM Re: Chris Young Is a Met

Agape? I'm dying here. Took neutral.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 08 2013 07:19 PM Re: Chris Young Is a Met

My mouth IS a little open, but that might be the tetanus. He walks enough to make his bat worth something, even with the platoon issues and .230ish average. He also adds a bunch of value with the glove and legs, and if he does more than that, he'll be a VERY movable piece/worth extending as the Mets grow into big-boy-contender shoes. Considering what some slightly-less-flawed outfielders are getting/likely getting in this market -- hell, multiple middle-inning relievers have gone for $8M-plus-- 1 year/$7.25 million is VERY amenable.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 08 2013 08:02 PM Re: Chris Young Is a Met

Brings useful skills to the table, and provides the potential to be Byrded in July or August if he goes well and we do not. Like.

Vic Sage Dec 09 2013 11:30 AM Re: Chris Young Is a Met

yup.

batmagadanleadoff Dec 09 2013 11:32 AM Re: Chris Young Is a Met

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Brings useful skills to the table, and provides the potential to be Byrded in July or August if he goes well and we do not. Like. He might hit 40 HR's, too. Or win the MVP. But if I was a betting man, I'd say that the likeliest outcome is that Young'll suck, and so will the Mets.

Vic Sage Dec 09 2013 12:17 PM Re: Chris Young Is a Met

He doesn't have to hit 40 hrs or win an MVP to be valuable. Young has had some OK years, so his age (30, in his prime) and talent level (high) would indicate a greater likelihood of decency (.235/80r/80rbi/20hr/20sb) rather than outright suckitude, barring a significant injury. In fact, I would bet that he has a higher likelihood of making a positive overall contribution to the lineup in 2014 than Lagares does.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 09 2013 03:22 PM Re: Chris Young Is a Met

That's a bold assertion, with a robust, malty aftertaste. Young was really good with the glove in center. Lagares is better there than Young ever was.

Vic Sage Dec 09 2013 09:18 PM Re: Chris Young Is a Met

I said "a positive overall contribution to the lineup", not to the OF defense. As flawed as he is, Young is a better offensive player than Lagares, and good enough defensively to play over him.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 09 2013 09:30 PM Re: Chris Young Is a Met

Hey, I'm thinking Young can start. But what I'm saying is, what you said may not be true. As a matter of fact, it's likely untrue. Lagares' defense-- one season of UZR is hardly conclusive, but Good GOD does he pass the eye test-- is apparently so good, it's a weapon. Like, the value he provided with his glove and legs last year-- while providing NEGATIVE bat value-- was better than anything Young's ever done with the bat/glove/everything, and better than all but two years of Young's career. In 3/4 of a season. Young's a nice roster piece, and worth a semi-regular starting gig, at least. OTOH, if Lagares can provide even slightly better offensive results than he did last year, he's a borderline All-Star, value-wise.

Edgy MD Dec 27 2013 07:24 AM Re: Chris Young Is a Met

I think the value we got from Lagares throwing out runners is highly likely to regress, as it's a contribution that's both situation-dependent and choice-dependent. Young, meanshile, may be a paragon of a new market inefficiency.

Ceetar Dec 27 2013 07:49 AM Re: Chris Young Is a Met

I think the value we got from Lagares throwing out runners is highly likely to regress, as it's a contribution that's both situation-dependent and choice-dependent. Young, meanwhile, may be a paragon of a new market inefficiency. So hard to measure. Does reputation alone now (damn that no gold glove thing) make runners think twice about rounding second? How to you determine if they stayed because they wouldn't have made it, or they stayed because they thought they only wouldn't make it against Juan? Tricky bit of defensive value there. Interesting post though. If Sandy is thinking along those lines, it might help explain his willingness to let Turner go and his dissatisfaction with Tejada (well, his seeming disinclination to think Tejada can be valuable again). Granderson has a 2:1 FB/LD:GB ratio as well. (and 63 bunts)

Vic Sage Dec 27 2013 08:28 AM Re: Chris Young Is a Met

the implication seems to be that the effect is relatively small and outweighed by other factors unless you totally rebuild your lineup to amplify the effect. So I don't think signing 1 or 2 guys either indicates a change in our team's philosophy or a basis for the team's improvement next year. But I would like to think it does show Sandy's effort to gain every possible advantage for our "small market" team.

Ashie62 Dec 27 2013 11:37 AM Re: Chris Young Is a Met

I don't see Chris Young making the Mets any better or any worse..I'm really hoping he is not washed up and 7 million went down the bucket.