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JFK Commemoration
G-Fafif Nov 18 2013 05:56 PM |
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Alive but too young to have truly lived through the trauma of the assassination of the president 50 years ago this Friday, I recall, for the Purple Clover web site, what it was like growing up in the shadow of the Camelot myth.
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Zvon Nov 18 2013 06:51 PM Re: JFK Commemoration |
I remember being unsettled because my usual Saturday morning cartoons were not on TV. All JFK assassination and funeral coverage on, seemed like, all hours of the next few days. I don't know how much I understood (I was 5) but I knew the mood of my home was very somber the entire weekend, and that usually was not the case in my house.
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themetfairy Nov 18 2013 07:54 PM Re: JFK Commemoration |
My high school social studies teachers were obsessed with JFK assassination conspiracy theories; we studied it as a unit several times.
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Frayed Knot Nov 18 2013 09:26 PM Re: JFK Commemoration |
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As were mine - and they were as full of shit then as they would be today. And, look, I like historical retrospectives and Presidential history as much as anyone, but most of this JFK stuff borders on worship and often by those who were too young to have lived through his presidency, or at least were not yet adults at the time. It's nice to pretend that Vietnam and other problems of the later '60s wouldn't have occurred had JFK lived but it's another to act as if it's settled fact. I've also long found the 'Camelot' tag to be somewhat weird. It was never called that at the time and I wish it weren't now. The first mention was a post-assassination interview that Jackie gave to one of the myriad of writers in the Kennedy stable, one where she revealed that the President used to play the then-current soundtrack of the play over and over as if imagining that his reign was like that of Arthur's. Kind of egotistical if you ask me if not outright divorced from reality. Having said all that, Bill Flanagan's piece on CBS's 'Sunday Morning' program yesterday was terrific. I can't find a video clip of it which is a shame because he delivery and presentation of it was spot-on as well, but here's the transcript where he gives his reasoning for why the events in Dallas fifty years ago this week still carry such resonance and does so without deifying the man himself, a move that seems to be almost requisite in most pieces. Those of us who were children when President Kennedy died absorbed the assassination through the effect it had on the grown-ups around us. The shock in the faces of the teachers as they whispered to each other before dismissing school . . . the grief we encountered in adults we met on the way home . . . and most of all, the pained reactions of our parents. Looking back across 50 years, it seems to me that November 22, 1963, marked the moment when the World War II generation stopped thinking of themselves as young. President Kennedy was the face of the vast population who grew up in the Depression, putting their dreams on hold, and then fought the biggest war in history. When those veterans came home they were in a hurry. They got married and had kids. They went to college on the GI Bill. They built the suburbs and the interstate highway system. They were making up for lost time. To my parents and their contemporaries, President Kennedy represented the best of the best. The youngest man ever elected President came into office in a rush to "get the country moving again." An author and a war hero, he was charming, articulate and ironic. He was how the children of the Depression liked to see themselves. My father always said that the day JFK died was the day our country went from optimism to cynicism. His death changed the way his generation saw their country and themselves. They went almost overnight from young upstarts to the old guard, the squares, the Archie Bunkers. Their own kids were so loud and entitled that they told them to get out of the road, the times they are a-changin', don't trust anyone over 30. Within five years of the Kennedy assassination, the World War II generation went from being the embodiment of youth to the Silent Majority. John Updike and John Cheever wrote short stories about fading men and women looking back on lost glories. Frank Sinatra, once the idol of the bobbysoxers, began singing about the "September of My Years," "Last Night When We Were Young," "It Was a Very Good Year." All the disillusioned Don Drapers nodded along. It was as if in that winter between the death of John Kennedy and the coming of the Beatles, a whole generation went from optimistic youth to disappointed middle age. After the assassination, the journalist Mary McGrory said, "We'll never laugh again," and Kennedy aide Daniel Patrick Moynihan famously replied, "Mary, we will laugh again. It's just that we will never be young again." It was a self-fulfilling prophecy. That's why, 50 years later, the death of John F. Kennedy still resonates so powerfully with those of us who were kids at the time. It was the moment when our parents went from believing in all the great things that were going to be, to regretting what might have been.
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G-Fafif Nov 19 2013 07:12 AM Re: JFK Commemoration |
I took a class in college called "The American Presidency" with a very acerbic teacher who promised, practically rubbing his hands with glee, that "we're gonna break some hearts" when we got to his revisionist take on Kennedy (which was basically not much was accomplished during his term and that Johnson's the one who passed the meaningful legislation). I remember Prof. Levy waiting for the wails of protest that never came. Except for a few SOTAs (Students Over Traditional Age), nobody in the class was old enough to remember JFK first-hand or was that invested in his legacy to have their innocence shattered by a lecture.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 19 2013 08:15 AM Re: JFK Commemoration |
I feel like if I encountered Olbermann at yankee Stadium, I'd treat him like Pete Roselle. POW!
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sharpie Nov 19 2013 08:27 AM Re: JFK Commemoration |
I do remember a neighbor girl telling me that President Kennedy had died while waiting for the school bus home that day (I was in kindergarten). I also remember my parents watching the coverage. My mom was devastated.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 19 2013 08:57 AM Re: JFK Commemoration |
That was a good 'Sunday Morning' package.
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Benjamin Grimm Nov 19 2013 09:05 AM Re: JFK Commemoration |
I've been to Dealey Plaza a couple of times. It's like being on the set of a famous movie.
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Ashie62 Nov 19 2013 07:35 PM Re: JFK Commemoration |
I remember, barely, Oswald getting shot as it happened..
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Benjamin Grimm Nov 21 2013 05:45 AM Re: JFK Commemoration |
They're covering all angles for this anniversary. There's an article in the Daily News today about what JFK smelled like.
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metsguyinmichigan Nov 22 2013 12:27 PM Re: JFK Commemoration |
I was alive, but not yet born (April 1964). My wife was born in January, 1964, so her Mom was nearly eight months pregnant. She tells stories of co-workers taking her into a room, sitting her down and gently breaking the news to her, fearing she would get so upset that she'd have a miscarriage.
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Frayed Knot Nov 22 2013 12:48 PM Re: JFK Commemoration |
I liked George Will's column this week in which he says that part of the reason the death holds such a hold on the country is that the early end of his presidency allows almost anyone on either side of the political spectrum to claim Kennedy as their own.
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themetfairy Nov 22 2013 01:23 PM Re: JFK Commemoration |
I was two years old at the time. I have no contemporaneous memory of the assassination or the events surrounding it.
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Edgy MD Nov 22 2013 01:45 PM Re: JFK Commemoration |
Never knew or had forgotten: C.S. Lewis died on the same day.
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batmagadanleadoff Nov 22 2013 01:50 PM Re: JFK Commemoration |
What a great photograph:
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Benjamin Grimm Nov 22 2013 02:17 PM Re: JFK Commemoration |
There's an insert in today's Daily News that's a full (albeit thin) reprint of their November 23, 1963 edition. It has all the Kennedy coverage, of course, but also Moon Mullins, Li'l Abner, Winnie Winkle, Dick Young's Young Ideas and more, including movie ads. What was playing? Jack Lemmon in Under the Yum Yum Tree. James Stewart and Sandra Dee in Take Her She's Mine. Also, How the West Was Won, Cleopatra, and It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World. And theater listings, racing results. It's a keepsake.
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sharpie Nov 22 2013 02:25 PM Re: JFK Commemoration |
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Also Aldous Huxley.
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Benjamin Grimm Nov 22 2013 03:16 PM Re: JFK Commemoration |
Before or after they got the news, I wonder?
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d'Kong76 Nov 22 2013 07:56 PM Re: JFK Commemoration |
I remember it like yesterday...
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Frayed Knot Nov 22 2013 08:47 PM Re: JFK Commemoration |
Some of these 'where were you then?' retrospectives from celebrities would sound a lot less self-serving if they didn't describe the JFK killing as such a tragedy for the country because I agreed with his policies - as if the murder of a President you disagreed with would be less of one.
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MFS62 Nov 22 2013 09:15 PM Re: JFK Commemoration |
I was cutting a History class to play touch football on the lawn on South Campus when we heard what happened.
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Edgy MD Nov 23 2013 08:18 AM Re: JFK Commemoration |
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Ah, added to my shopping list.
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