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Barotolo Colon es un Metro

Me encanta.

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No me importa.

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Odio.

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Edgy MD Dec 11 2013 06:19 PM

Outside in and inside out, you're my Met! Fat and forty, but Lordy, you're my Met! From your feet to your head you knock me dead, you're my Met! I got you covered but baby, you're my Met! [list]In the days of old, when fans were bold They were pious and modest I'm told Can't you see that couldn't be me? I'd have to talk about your yams and your big fat hams![/list:u] It excites me so, because I know you're my Met! Fat and forty, but Lordy, you're my Met! [list]In the days of old, when fans were bold They were pious and modest I'm told Can't you see that couldn't be me? I'd have to talk about your yams and your big fat hams![/list:u] It excites me so, because I know you're my Met! Fat and forty, but Lordy,you're my Met! Fat and forty, but Lordy, Lordy. . . you're my Met!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 11 2013 06:22 PM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

Believe it or not, I like this signing a little. But that feeling is mitigated by the fact that it's two guaranteed years to a person who could tell you what he was eating when President Kennedy was assassinated, and the realization that my blood sugar's a little low, so... I could be biased. I'm middling.

seawolf17 Dec 11 2013 06:30 PM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

If you told me in April that this off-season, the Mets would sign the guy who goes 18-6, 2.65 in 30 starts and a 1.16 WHIP and finishes sixth in the AL Cy Young voting to a two-year, $20M deal for 2014 and 2015, I'd be pretty damn happy. Yet it all seems wrong somehow.

Edgy MD Dec 11 2013 07:22 PM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

I was ready to go two and $23 for him, so I've got to be happy. On the other hand, that's money that could have gone to Dickey. On the first hand though, Synderg'Arnaud.

Centerfield Dec 11 2013 07:32 PM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

I'll state the obvious, the second year hurts. I think we get a good half season out of him during these two years. Hopefully it comes in the second half of 2014 so we can trade him this time next year when we are wondering what to do with all this pitching...

Edgy MD Dec 11 2013 07:35 PM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

He's 189-128 with a 3.94 ERA on his career. The PED thing will hurt him of course, but this is where his pitching could be the difference between the Hall of Fame and being a historical footnote for him.

Frayed Knot Dec 11 2013 07:36 PM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

Maybe I'll be surprised here, but in the end I expect to wish they had put a full-stop on this instead of a Colon.

Fman99 Dec 11 2013 08:14 PM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

I'm hoping that Colon is not subject to an excessive amount of pounding.

Zvon Dec 11 2013 08:32 PM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

We needed a guy who could eat innings. 2 yrs, booooo. But he definitely can surprise me and impress me and make me think more highly of 40 yr old fat pitchers in the future if he wishes. Byrd kinda did that for me with old short fat players. Is part of being busted for drugs in baseball then require the player to be tested regularly?

MFS62 Dec 11 2013 09:20 PM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

Zvon wrote: We needed a guy who could eat innings. Well, the Mets certainly got one. He looks like he eats a lots more stuff than innings. But I don't care, as long as he continues to get batters out. 40 years old? He was my boyhood idol. Me gusta. Later

TransMonk Dec 12 2013 06:39 AM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

I don't like it. One year I would have been OK with...I'm hoping that second year doesn't bite the Mets in the ass. Rubin's piece for ESPN yesterday starts out: The Mets needed someone to offset the loss of Matt Harvey for the 2014 season. Maybe he'll surprise me.

metsmarathon Dec 12 2013 06:47 AM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

i like it. i'm hoping htat hte conract is weighted more heavily towards 2014, if only by a million or two, but i like it nevertheless. there's a really good chance we're going to get a good season out of him, and maybe two. and it's not a long term commitment or anything. and, also, if he's pitching really well, maybe we can spin him to a contender, presuming we are not one of those next year. i was thinking originally, gosh, maybe i'd prefer the mets have gotten arroyo instead of colon. but then i looked at the numbers. it's not worth all that much, but arroyo is projected (on fangraphs) to be about a 0.8/0.9 WAR pitcher next year. colon is projected to be a 2.0/2.4 WAR pitcher. and we might have gotten colon for less than we would end up paying arroyo. we might still need another pitcher, if only to anchor hte bottom of hte rotation, and provide insurance and/or competition to the bevy of young'uns. but colon is better than the #5-type pitcher we all kinda assumed hte mets would get this offseason.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 12 2013 06:54 AM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

I like it. It's a risk, but if you avoid risk entirely you never get anywhere, both in baseball and in life. I do think they need Colon more in 2014 than in 2015 when Harvey is expected back and guys like Syndergaard and de Grom and whoever else all have another year of experience. If Colon is still productive, and the Mets don't need him in 2015, he can be traded. If he's awful, then of course they've blown ten million dollars of their 2015 money, but as I said, risks are unavoidable. Andy Martino last night on Mets Hot Stove said that this makes the Mets a contender, at least for a wild card spot. I'm not sure if I'd go that far, but if it turns out that he's right, then the second year may just be the price that you pay for the first year. And who knows? Maybe he'll be pitching for the Mets in the 2015 World Series.

dgwphotography Dec 12 2013 07:07 AM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

I tried holding my nose. I still didn't like the small of this.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 12 2013 07:28 AM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

I called this one (sort of) back on August 26 LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: seawolf17 wrote: He signed with the Angels a few weeks ago. Oh. Who's next on the depth chart? Bartolo Colon? Jerry Koosman? Laugh it up, fuzzball-- Bartolo Colon is 14-5, 2.97, and an All-Star this year. I can't find Koos' stats. Has he been out of circulation or something?

Benjamin Grimm Dec 12 2013 07:31 AM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

I just looked up Colon's stats. For some reason I thought he was a long-time Montreal Expo, but he only was with them in 2002. I couldn't have named any of the other teams that he had played for. I guess I'm far from an expert on Bartolo Colon.

Lefty Specialist Dec 12 2013 07:33 AM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

My fear.

TransMonk Dec 12 2013 08:07 AM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

LOL!

Mets Guy in Michigan Dec 12 2013 08:11 AM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

Wasn't Hawkins in or near his 40s and just signed a two-year-deal with the Rockies? I was a little surprised the Mets did this, and it's a little scary. But I think if we get 10 or 12 wins, a respectable ERA and a bunch of innings, the money doesn't seem excessive.

Edgy MD Dec 12 2013 08:14 AM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

I'm a Colonist. I'm a Colonial. I'm a Bartolian.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 12 2013 08:38 AM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

no me gusta

Vic Sage Dec 12 2013 08:46 AM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

Relax folks; it's 2 years, not 10. It's $10m/yr, not $24m. A contract like this really shouldn't prevent a NYC franchise with a new park and its own network from doing whatever else it needs to do to improve itself, so i'm not sure why it's scary (i know why; that's rhetorical). Colon has had a pretty good career and is coming off an all-star season. He didn't cost us anything but money. Sure, he's fat, he's old, has a history of PEDs... and could blow up tomorrow, but so could Wheeler (see Harvey, Matt). If that happens, you move on. Or rather a competently managed franchise moves on. Do i think Colon makes us a pennant contender in 2014? Uh, no. No i don't; not without Harvey, some better BP arms, a SS, and fewer dead spots in the lineup. But with him and Granderson, and maybe some progress from youngsters Wheeler, D'Arnaud and Lagares, we can win at least as many as we lose, making the watching of games next year a better bet.

Ceetar Dec 12 2013 09:07 AM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Andy Martino last night on Mets Hot Stove said that this makes the Mets a contender, at least for a wild card spot. I'm not sure if I'd go that far, but if it turns out that he's right, then the second year may just be the price that you pay for the first year. And who knows? Maybe he'll be pitching for the Mets in the 2015 World Series. It helps, but the thing that makes this team into a contender is more about Wheeler being awesome and the pitching staying healthy, coupled with some or all of Tejada rebounding, Ike rebounding for a full season, d'Arnaud being better than average, and such.

themetfairy Dec 12 2013 09:07 AM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

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d'Kong76 Dec 12 2013 09:53 AM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

Took don't care ... one year would be nicer but I guess that's just the nature of the business these days. He did have a good season to negotiate on/with. I guess he's the fattest Met ever ... that's something!

Edgy MD Dec 12 2013 09:57 AM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

I'm gonna stick with Mo Vaughn on that one.

Ceetar Dec 12 2013 09:58 AM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

Edgy MD wrote: I'm gonna stick with Mo Vaughn on that one. Watching Mo Vaughn run the bases is when my wife first started enjoying going to Mets games.

Centerfield Dec 12 2013 09:59 AM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

Andy Martino last night on Mets Hot Stove said that this makes the Mets a contender, at least for a wild card spot. I'm not sure if I'd go that far, but if it turns out that he's right, then the second year may just be the price that you pay for the first year. And who knows? Maybe he'll be pitching for the Mets in the 2015 World Series. It helps, but the thing that makes this team into a contender is more about Wheeler being awesome and the pitching staying healthy, coupled with some or all of Tejada rebounding, Ike rebounding for a full season, d'Arnaud being better than average, and such. New rules for this season: 1. No getting hurt 2. Everyone must play to full, or exceed, potential 3. Get lucky

d'Kong76 Dec 12 2013 10:00 AM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

Forgot about MO!

Ceetar Dec 12 2013 10:10 AM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

Centerfield wrote: New rules for this season: 1. No getting hurt 2. Everyone must play to full, or exceed, potential 3. Get lucky One can hope right? Really that's the case for every team, the Mets just need more of it at the present time.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 12 2013 11:47 AM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

It's only partly for on-field reasons, but the more I think about this, the more I smile.

Lefty Specialist Dec 12 2013 12:33 PM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

4. Everyone else in the division must get hurt or play below their capabilities. Even then I'm not convinced.

Ceetar Dec 12 2013 12:40 PM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

Lefty Specialist wrote: 4. Everyone else in the division must get hurt or play below their capabilities. Even then I'm not convinced. well not everyone, the Mets are probably better than the Marlins and Phillies already.

Ashie62 Dec 12 2013 12:44 PM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 12 2013 12:46 PM

He has done very well since the use of regenerative medicine, stem cell stuff, on his arm. I will take this over Bronson Arroyo..

Edgy MD Dec 12 2013 12:45 PM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

I'm not sure what folks are asking for, but your team is a contender. Yeah, plenty has to go right. That's always true.

smg58 Dec 12 2013 09:49 PM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

Like I said in the other thread, he has ace upside, and I think that justifies the risks.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 12 2013 09:55 PM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

See, the thing is, he probably won't be an ace-- his ERA had a little bit more than a little luck in there (career-high strand rate, low HR/FB rate). But he'll-- barring significant time missed with injuries, or choking on his toilet-break meal-- likely give us somewhere between 140 and 180 innings of 6-7 inning starts and an ERA in the mid-to-high 3s. And if he gives us that and ANYTHING in the second year, then he's earned the contract value and then some.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 14 2013 07:17 PM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

It's official. Mets press release wrote: The New York Mets today announced the club has signed righthanded pitcher Bartolo Colon to a two-year contract. Colon, 40, is a three-time All-Star, including last season and the 2005 American League Cy Young winner. He has won double-digit games 10 times during his 16-year major league career with the Cleveland Indians, Montreal Expos, Chicago White Sox, Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, Boston Red Sox, New York Yankees and Oakland Athletics. The 5-11, 265-pounder made 30 starts in 2013 and finished second in the AL in wins (18), ERA (2.65) and walks per nine innings (1.37). He was tied for the major league lead with three shutouts and was tied for third in the AL with three complete games. He worked 6.0 or more innings in 24 of his 30 starts, going 18-1 in those games. He surrendered two or fewer runs 20 times while issuing one or no walks 23 times. Colon finished sixth in the AL Cy Young voting.

Edgy MD Jan 20 2014 03:08 PM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

John Dewan sings of Bartolo. Colon may be the most fascinating case. In his prime, Colon was an elite pitcher with tremendous stuff. Now, he is in his 40s and averages less than 90 mph on his fastball. However, rather than shy away from his diminished fastball, Colon has relied on the pitch more and more. In 2013, he threw it 86 percent of the time. Despite the frequency and slowness of the pitch, Colon enjoyed the best ERA of his career.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 23 2014 10:55 PM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

... and now he's hitting.

Lefty Specialist Feb 24 2014 06:38 AM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

Yeah, now that he's in the National League, he'll have 'plate appearances' that aren't 'all you can eat'.

Frayed Knot Feb 24 2014 06:50 AM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

Lefty Specialist wrote: Yeah, now that he's in the National League, he'll have 'plate appearances' that aren't 'all you can eat'. Because when Bartolo sits down to a meal, the previously covered plate appears rather quickly.

Edgy MD Feb 24 2014 07:07 AM Re: Barotolo Colon es un Metro

Nice Synderfoorm.