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Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Benjamin Grimm Jan 09 2014 11:21 AM

Adam Rubin wrote: Bobby Parnell cleared to pitch New York Mets closer Bobby Parnell, who underwent Sept. 10 surgery in California for a herniated disk in his neck, has been fully cleared for baseball activities. After attending David Wright's wedding, Parnell stayed on the West Coast to be examined by Dr. Robert Watkins, who had performed the procedure. Watkins cleared Parnell for full baseball activities. Parnell is expected to resume closing games for the Mets this season. He converted 22 of 26 chances last season. "He looked terrific -- toned, strong, limber," said one person who recently saw Parnell. Parnell had lost roughly 30 pounds while dealing with the herniated disk.

Ceetar Jan 09 2014 11:34 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

why don't we have pictures of David's wedding, besides the likely Turner one? Good for Bobby. was assumed he'd be fine but good that he's been cleared.

Edgy MD Jan 09 2014 11:44 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Ceetar wrote: why don't we have pictures of David's wedding, besides the likely Turner one? Derek Jeter worked the door. All cameras and phones in the basket, please.

Ashie62 Jan 09 2014 04:16 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Did not realize Parnell had 30 pounds to lose...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 09 2014 04:40 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Beard pounds, mostly.

TransMonk Feb 21 2014 10:58 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Quad injury puts Parnell briefly on sideline By Adam Rubin | ESPNNewYork.com PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. -- Closer Bobby Parnell's next bullpen session will wait further. Parnell, returning from surgery to address a herniated disk in his neck, injured a quadriceps muscle covering first base during a drill Thursday. He was not outdoors with teammates for Friday's morning stretching, but pitching coach Dan Warthen said: "Everyone thinks it's very, very mild. He wanted to throw today." Parnell, trying to be cautious, threw a 35-pitch bullpen session Tuesday. He had been listed to throw again Thursday, but decided to wait an extra day to be safe as he returns from surgery. Now, that will be delayed slightly further.

Ceetar Feb 26 2014 11:49 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

prepare the caskets for.. Niese: arm weakness: back to NY for MRI Calf: Colon issue. Young Jr: Side tightness

Edgy MD Feb 26 2014 01:08 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Zach Wheeler wanted to pitch opening day. He's already, in the space of an hour, gone from number three or four to number one or two.

G-Fafif Feb 26 2014 01:16 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Ceetar wrote: Calf: Colon issue. Tough break for Calf dealing with that bum colon.

Lefty Specialist Feb 26 2014 01:31 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Is it because he ate a calf?

Ashie62 Feb 26 2014 04:40 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Pitchers getting MRI's frighten me. Please be healthy...

Centerfield Feb 27 2014 07:44 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Not nearly as scary as pitchers not getting MRI's. I'm still irritated that the Mets would not give Wheeler a precautionary MRI last season when they shut him down with shoulder soreness. Why not just check it out and be safe? Anyway, I'm off topic. Hoping the best for Jon. The reports made it seem like it's not serious.

G-Fafif Feb 27 2014 10:26 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Niese MRI finds no damage. Cleared to throw.

Ceetar Feb 27 2014 10:28 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

G-Fafif wrote: Niese MRI finds no damage. Cleared to throw. yeah, but so is Harvey. #doomed.

Ashie62 Feb 27 2014 10:46 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

No major structural damage per espn

Benjamin Grimm Feb 27 2014 10:55 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Ceetar wrote: G-Fafif wrote: Niese MRI finds no damage. Cleared to throw. yeah, but so is Harvey. #doomed. And that's the Optimistic fan saying that!

Ceetar Feb 27 2014 11:01 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Ceetar wrote: G-Fafif wrote: Niese MRI finds no damage. Cleared to throw. yeah, but so is Harvey. #doomed. And that's the Optimistic fan saying that! well tongue in cheek, but.. Niese DOES have a partial tear in his shoulder, which has gone a little unreported in this MRI discussion. He's been managing it through medication and such, but it's still there. Or at least, it's supposed to be. (Did the MRI not find it, or not find anything new?)

Benjamin Grimm Feb 27 2014 11:05 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Adam Rubin wrote: Left-hander Jonathon Niese's MRI exam of his shoulder came back clean Thursday and he will resume throwing in a couple of days. Niese, projected to be the Opening Day starter for the Mets, had been sent back to New York for the medical exam after complaining of shoulder pain. "I wanted to keep it quiet. It's just a precautionary thing to make sure it's not worse from last year," Niese told ESPNNewYork.com on Wednesday. "I just want peace of mind." "Clean." Whatever that means exactly, it's better than the alternative. I remember that pitchers were expected to go through a "dead arm" phase. Maybe this is something innocuous. We'll know soon enough, I guess; see if he makes a few exhibition starts and seems okay.

Ceetar Feb 27 2014 11:07 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Adam Rubin wrote: Left-hander Jonathon Niese's MRI exam of his shoulder came back clean Thursday and he will resume throwing in a couple of days. Niese, projected to be the Opening Day starter for the Mets, had been sent back to New York for the medical exam after complaining of shoulder pain. "I wanted to keep it quiet. It's just a precautionary thing to make sure it's not worse from last year," Niese told ESPNNewYork.com on Wednesday. "I just want peace of mind." "Clean." Whatever that means exactly, it's better than the alternative. I remember that pitchers were expected to go through a "dead arm" phase. Maybe this is something innocuous. We'll know soon enough, I guess; see if he makes a few exhibition starts and seems okay. Perhaps given the tear and injury last year, he's justgoing to take a little longer to ramp up from 0 in the Spring.

Edgy MD Mar 27 2014 03:31 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Cory Mazzillioni finishes todays game with the loss and a triceps injury.

Ceetar Mar 28 2014 09:09 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

This is probably why Matt wanted to rehab in NY Jeremy Hefner: Just hanging out with all my friends!

Edgy MD Mar 28 2014 12:16 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Ooooh. Exposed duct work. So cool.

Zvon Mar 28 2014 12:33 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Edgy MD wrote: Cory Mazzillioni finishes todays game with the loss and a triceps injury. I think he may have been overthrowing. In the first he was pounding the zone with some heavy heat and looked pretty awesome. Then in the second he went south.

Ashie62 Mar 28 2014 08:45 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Per the Rubinoos.... Mejia out.... Dice-Met in [url]http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/83344/mejia-has-forearm-bruise-to-get-x-rays

HahnSolo Apr 01 2014 10:11 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Metsblog sez Parnell with tear of MCL in right elbow. Two weeks rest, then begin a throwing program....maybe, hopefully. If that goes ok, he might avoid surgery. ugh. edit with link: [url]http://metsblog.com/metsblog/bobby-parnell-has-tear-of-mcl-in-right-elbow/

Edgy MD Apr 07 2014 02:16 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Black hits DL with a pinched nerve in his neck, with is getting to be a little too fashionable among closer candidates for my tastes. It's, like, the new black!

Benjamin Grimm Apr 07 2014 02:22 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

How much longer before the Mets try to lure Skip Lockwood out of retirement?

Edgy MD Apr 07 2014 02:38 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

If I recall correctly, Lockwood spent a few years himself trying to rehabilitate injures before succumbing to retirement. His contemporary Bob Apodaca sure did. It's the way of things.

Edgy MD Apr 15 2014 07:28 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Any word on the injuries to Lagares and Granderson? Is Chris Young eligible to be activated?

Ceetar Apr 15 2014 07:30 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Edgy MD wrote: Any word on the injuries to Lagares and Granderson? Is Chris Young eligible to be activated? earliest for Young is Friday. 15 days. Haven't heard anything yet, but it's 6:30am there.

TransMonk Apr 15 2014 07:31 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

I don't think there has been any official word yet, but Rubin thinks Lagares may hit the DL (with Captain Kirk coming up from AAA). I don't believe Young is eligible to return until Friday.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 15 2014 07:32 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

I'm guessing Lagares to the DL, Nieuwenhuis to be activated. I'm less sure about Granderson; if he gets DLed, would it be den Dekker? Or Puello, perhaps? More likely den Dekker, I'd think.

Edgy MD Apr 15 2014 07:43 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

You want an outfielder? How about THIS Las Vegas 51? AVG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG OPS .478 10 23 5 11 3 0 0 5 14 4 3 0 0 .556 .609 1.164 Name that man.

Frayed Knot Apr 15 2014 07:44 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

I think they'll "day to day" Granderson and if he can't go by Friday then you activate CYoung and retroactive Grandy's DL. Worst case scenario you're only short a man for two games.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 15 2014 07:46 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Edgy MD wrote: You want an outfielder? How about THIS Las Vegas 51? AVG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG OPS .478 10 23 5 11 3 0 0 5 14 4 3 0 0 .556 .609 1.164 Name that man. Kirk! Bobby?

Edgy MD Apr 15 2014 07:50 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Bobby F. Abreu is the correct answer. Still got those massive guns. Probably still capable of uncorking a throw from the warning track straight into the press booth.

Frayed Knot Apr 15 2014 07:52 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Edgy MD wrote: Probably still capable of uncorking a throw from the warning track straight into the press booth. No way, everyone knows that Bobby Abreu never goes near the warning track.

MFS62 Apr 15 2014 08:15 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Frayed Knot wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Probably still capable of uncorking a throw from the warning track straight into the press booth. No way, everyone knows that Bobby Abreu never goes near the warning track. That made me laugh out loud. Really. Edgy's comment reminded me of a comment about Oscar Gamble. A writer said (I paraphrase) "Its a good thing he has a strong arm, so when he misjudges a fly ball, he can hold the batter at second". Later

Edgy MD Apr 15 2014 08:23 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

"The presence of him being here and the leadership he's always had, it's big for these guys," Backman said. "For a guy who's played in the bigs as long as he has and be down here, other players get to see his work ethic, his approach and that's very important. "I don't foresee him being here long. … What he can bring to the table at this point in his career is a very, very good left-handed bat off the bench in key situations."

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 15 2014 08:34 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

I'm totally on board with Abreu being a LH pinch hitter/emergency outfielder, especially if it helps to trade Ike. And maybe they just demote Ike and see if he can't increase his value there.

Mets Guy in Michigan Apr 15 2014 10:25 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

I forgot we had Abreu over there. What's the downside to bringing him up? Adding him to the 40 man? Taking ABs away from young players with potential? But if you're not going to bring him up with two hurt outfielders, would be never come up?

Edgy MD Apr 15 2014 10:32 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Depends on whether they are adding zero, one, or two to the DL. Need to sort that out. Sometimes, like when two guys get hurt in Phoenix, it's good to have a top farm team in the PCL.

Ceetar Apr 15 2014 11:07 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Edgy MD wrote: Depends on whether they are adding zero, one, or two to the DL. Need to sort that out. Sometimes, like when two guys get hurt in Phoenix, it's good to have a top farm team in the PCL. last word I saw was Nieuwenhuis on the Taxi Squad. Abreu hasn't been good in years and isn't a particularly good defender. Someone's gotta play the outfield in Vegas though.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 15 2014 12:54 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Laggy down/Nuiewy up official

Ashie62 Apr 15 2014 04:07 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Lets hope it is not a one month hammy, the kid is awesome...

Vic Sage Apr 16 2014 09:07 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

If Neiuwy keep this up, does Brown go down when Young comes up? or do they keep both and send down Famiglia or Lannan?

Ceetar Apr 16 2014 09:23 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Vic Sage wrote: If Neiuwy keep this up, does Brown go down when Young comes up? or do they keep both and send down Famiglia or Lannan? You mean if he gets another 3 hits today with a HR? I doubt that's enough of a sample size to really change the plan (unless Granderson is more hurt than it seems I guess) and jump Kirk above Andrew on the depth chart. I think they'd rather have the righty with Davis already on the bench too.

Ashie62 Apr 16 2014 06:49 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Keep Downtown Brown...

G-Fafif May 20 2014 02:05 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Gee will get a rehab start, so he will miss (at least) three. d'Arnaud still feeling concussion symptoms. Germen off rehab assignment but not returning to Mets. Rubin reports from Alderson that flu lingers, has abscess "not sure where".

Ashie62 May 20 2014 06:24 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Rectal?

Frayed Knot May 20 2014 07:22 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

And then there's this: Dodgers Cuban infield prospect Alex Guerrero required plastic surgery Tuesday after his left ear was bitten by Triple-A Albuquerque Isotopes teammate Miguel Olivo during a fight in the dugout. Olivo, IIRC, was always a bit of a dick.

MFS62 May 21 2014 07:19 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

After the incident, was Olivo quoted as saying that his childhood idol was Mike Tyson? Later

Edgy MD May 21 2014 02:07 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

“We don’t condone it, and we don’t think it’s constructive,” Colletti said at Citi Field, where the Dodgers were to play the New York Mets on Tuesday night. “People can have disagreements. When it gets beyond that level, it’s over the limit.” You can't be any clearer about that. Tearing a piece off a teammate with your teeth is something the Dodgers do not condone. Thanks for clearing up any ambiguity about that, Ned. Other organizations may look the other way, but not you guys. When your behavior is closer to cannibalism than not, the Dodgers think it's over the line. Colletti could not be clearer.

Edgy MD May 22 2014 01:27 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Olivo released. This is totally going to suppress his Hall of Fame vote.

sharpie May 22 2014 04:22 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Cecil Fielder likely having neck surgery which will put him out for the resta the season.

Frayed Knot May 22 2014 05:19 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

sharpie wrote: Cecil Fielder likely having neck surgery which will put him out for the resta the season. After barely missing a game for his whole career up to this point -- 157+ games EVERY season for eight years including 162 four times. Bit of a tough break for Rangers, but that's part of the risk dealing for guys with long-term deals that extend through their 30s (just turned 30 last week).

Edgy MD May 22 2014 06:03 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Wow, not bad for a 50-year-old.

Frayed Knot May 23 2014 08:04 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Throw Colorado's Nolan Arenado onto the pile of guys breaking fingers via head-first slides. At least this one wasn't 1st base.

Edgy MD May 24 2014 09:07 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

I'd never heard of Arenado, I think, before our trip to Colorado. He looked like the perfectest ballplayer during that series. And that was a series that included Troy Tulowitzki, also at the top of his game. Crap injury for the Rockies.

Benjamin Grimm May 25 2014 07:44 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Eric Young to the DL with a hamstring injury. Matt den Dekker gets the call.

Edgy MD May 25 2014 08:07 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Sure could've used Young today, or even den Dekker. Tough deal of the cards for Nieuwenhuis. I like to think either he or dD could give us more off the bench than Young, though, and this injury sure clears up any ambiguity of the four-man outfield, just as everybody should have known some injury or another would.

themetfairy May 25 2014 08:11 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

All three little d's will be on the Major League team together!

Benjamin Grimm May 25 2014 08:49 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

They should all be in the starting lineup on the same day, and Mayor deBlasio can throw out the first pitch.

Edgy MD May 25 2014 09:14 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Now that would be a good promotion. "Little d Day."

MFS62 May 26 2014 08:07 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Edgy MD wrote: Now that would be a good promotion. "Little d Day." It wouldn't be a complete "little d" day unless Jeter was playing shortstop. Later

Mets Guy in Michigan May 26 2014 08:57 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

MFS62 wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Now that would be a good promotion. "Little d Day." It wouldn't be a complete "little d" day unless Jeter was playing shortstop. Later Bad ass!

Mets Guy in Michigan May 26 2014 12:27 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Thor to the DL to get his elbow examined. This is not good.

Nymr83 May 26 2014 02:45 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

MFS62 wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Now that would be a good promotion. "Little d Day." It wouldn't be a complete "little d" day unless Jeter was playing shortstop. Later Can we line deGrom's next start up for June 6th? It's right around the corner.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 26 2014 05:19 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Thor to the DL to get his elbow examined. This is not good. What do you mean? We're, like, two TJ surgeries away from the free one, right? #AllAboutValue

Ashie62 May 26 2014 06:20 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Gee had troubling throwing Sunday... Montero and DeGrom are safe for awhile...

metirish May 26 2014 07:38 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Thor to the DL to get his elbow examined. This is not good. NYT with an article saying his injury typically leads to Tommy John.....

Edgy MD May 26 2014 10:43 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Syndergaard tweets that he's synderfine. Hopefully there weren't too many self-immolations.

Vic Sage May 27 2014 10:45 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Syndergaard tweets that he's synderfine. He could also be Synderfull of shit. Players are the last people to trust about stuff like this. I'll believe it when a doctor says he's fine. And even then, i'd want a 2nd opinion.

Edgy MD May 27 2014 10:52 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Of course he could be wrong. I certainly don't say otherwise.

Benjamin Grimm May 27 2014 10:54 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

I'm also Synderskeptical. I guess I'm Synderfatalistic too. It seems like Tommy John surgery is becoming a rite of passage for pitchers. Maybe it's better for Noah to have it now (if it's actually necessary, of course) rather than after his big league career has started.

Vic Sage May 27 2014 10:58 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Of course he could be wrong. I certainly don't say otherwise. And i'm not saying you did, or even that you implied otherwise, so let's please not go there. As for Synderfella, he can not only be wrong, he could be lying. Players apparently lie about their physical condition all the time so as not lose playing time, and to avoid the DL, and to avoid any perception of them as fragile by their team and teammates (or in this case, perhaps the general public). So self-immolation (for those considering it) is still very much on the table until we hear further.

Edgy MD May 27 2014 11:03 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Well, you hate to do that sort of thing pre-maturely, I think, is my point. Early reports indicated his elbow, but latter reports, including his own, seem to point to the forearm, I believe.

Ceetar May 27 2014 03:15 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Thor is fine. #Mets apparently announce Noah Syndergaard's MRI is clean. The "But I think they're lying bastards" undertones of the apparently thrown in there unnecessarily is the an example of the difference between being a reporter and a negative troll.

Nymr83 May 27 2014 03:22 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

If I were a player, particularly one who is apparently so close to the big leagues, i'd be lying the shit out of any and all injuries too, because all it takes is a call-up and then WHAM "my X really hurts, I'm gonna go see Dr. Andrews", because then the entire year on the DL for Tommy John surgery counts towards your major league service time because they cant send you down while on the DL or send you down and then DL you if you claim the injury occured in the majors

Edgy MD Jun 01 2014 04:00 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

den Dekker heading to JFK to fly out LV, Lagares sent to HSS for MRI, den Dekker takes U PDQ.

Frayed Knot Jun 01 2014 07:02 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

"Hey MSG, check out my surgical scar"

Benjamin Grimm Jun 01 2014 07:03 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

His girlfriend has a cuter elbow.

Lefty Specialist Jun 01 2014 07:43 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

He better not experience any setbacks due to Ranger Elbow.

G-Fafif Jun 02 2014 11:54 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Juan officially (as opposed to ceremonially) to DL. den Dekker back from the airport.

themetfairy Jun 05 2014 09:24 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Recovery - Thor was back in the Vegas lineup for the first time since May 21st. Injury - FuckShit!

Frayed Knot Jun 07 2014 12:01 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Gee - threw for the first time off flat ground yesterday. Still 2-3 weeks at best from returning EYJ - "felt tightness" in his hammy during a test run. Will back off for a few days and will require time beyond the original DL stint Syndergaard - will be out "5 to 7 days" with a sprained left (non-throwing) shoulder

Edgy MD Jun 07 2014 01:37 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Johan: Out for season with torn achilles.

Ashie62 Jun 07 2014 07:24 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Lagares now lagging..

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 07 2014 07:43 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Nimmo leaves today's game after getting hit in the wrist... and, as with Syndergaard's shoulder, the Rangers dressing room and (so far) Krazy-Glued Brazilian soccerin' stadiums, it is fracture-free.

Edgy MD Jun 13 2014 07:22 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Eric Young is on rehab assignment, going 2-5 in his first game with St. Lucie. He is eligible for activation and should be back shortly. Lagares, if ready, is eligible to activated in time for Tuesday in St. Louis. More grass for the mower, the way things are going.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 13 2014 07:59 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Grandy is resting his calf and did Mejia get hurt last night too? What a wreck.

Frayed Knot Jun 13 2014 08:00 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Lagares apparently isn't near ready.

Edgy MD Jun 16 2014 01:48 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

But not EY. Eric expected to be activated in time for tonight's game.

Edgy MD Jul 05 2014 07:02 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Niese likely for DL. So much for "Who loses his spot when Gee returns?"

Frayed Knot Jul 05 2014 07:10 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Edgy MD wrote: Niese likely for DL. But for some kind of shoulder injury rather than anything connected to last night's liner off the back. Apparently Niese is not happy about the decision. Buddy Carlyle on the way to NY from Vegas.

Edgy MD Jul 05 2014 08:01 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Cliff Floyd reporting that Goodwin's leave of absence was because he lost a son.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2014 06:38 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Hef on his way to New York to meet up with the team... of physicians at the Hospital for Special Surgery, to examine if his forearm soreness is a setback in his TJ rehab.

Zvon Aug 10 2014 06:46 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Almost casually, less than an hour after Jenrry Mejia blew a save in the Mets 7-6 loss to the Phillies, he revealed that he is pitching through a hernia. [url]http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2014/08/mets_closer_jenrry_mejia_has_hernia_will_pitch_through_it.html

Gwreck Aug 10 2014 09:17 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

This is idiotic. If he needs surgery, get him the surgery. We are not playing for anything in 2014.

Edgy MD Aug 11 2014 05:34 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

I'm playing for something. But sure, get the hernia surgery.

smg58 Aug 11 2014 12:16 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

If it's compromising his pitching in any way, then there's nothing to be gained by waiting.

Edgy MD Aug 11 2014 12:25 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

It depends, I guess, on how compromised. But yeah. I don't believe our season means nothing, or that it means any less nothing than any other season. But I do believe that upgrading Familia into a role with a little more responsibility, and therefore upgrading Black into a role with a little more responsibility, and therefore upgrading Torres into a role with a little more responsibility puts the team into a better position to win, long-term and short-term than to give our most crucial innings to a guy who's cowboying up for the team.

Frayed Knot Aug 11 2014 12:37 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

smg58 wrote: If it's compromising his pitching in any way, then there's nothing to be gained by waiting. But if it's not compromising his pitching then there's nothing to be gained--and plenty of season to be lost--by doing it during the season as opposed to in the off-season.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 11 2014 12:49 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Well, there's the possibility that it's not compromising his pitching, but he's still running the risk of making it a more severe injury.

Edgy MD Aug 11 2014 01:00 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Well, I'd be surprised if delaying treatment on a hernia became a career-threatening injury. I myself am living with a hernia. (All the time, such aggravation.)

Ceetar Aug 11 2014 02:25 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Edgy MD wrote: Well, I'd be surprised if delaying treatment on a hernia became a career-threatening injury. I myself am living with a hernia. (All the time, such aggravation.) and you probably wouldn't have gotten the Phillies out either.

Edgy MD Aug 11 2014 02:30 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Feel pretty confident that I could get Darin Ruf. Injury or not, I own that guy. He had two F's before he met me. Two R's in in "Darrin," too.

Gwreck Aug 11 2014 03:48 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

If the Mets aren't going to make the playoffs (which they're not), the best possible position they can be in is to have as bad a record as possible to get a better draft pick spot for next year. Finishing with one of the ten worst records in the majors would be ideal since it wouldn't cost them a first-round pick [u:2suqgg37]when[/u:2suqgg37] they sign a big free agent this offseason (ie. Jon Lester or Max Scherzer). As for Mejia: I maintain there is no reason to delay the surgery. I really think it's stupid to think about "if" he can pitch despite the hernia. If the Mets were seriously competing for a playoff spot then it might be a different consideration.

Edgy MD Aug 11 2014 06:18 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

If bunting is for losers, tanking is for the birds.

Gwreck Aug 11 2014 06:59 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Tanking is deliberately losing. Of course they're not going to throw the games. Changing the composition of your team so that you lose more games this season is fine if it sets up you for future success. When the Mets traded Carlos Beltran in 2011, it undoubtedly caused them to win fewer games that season. Yet I think everyone can see that as a trade that benefited the team in the long run, even if it caused them to lose more in 2011. Putting Mejia on the DL and getting him his surgery might not help the Mets win in 2014 but a healthy team is more important in 2015. There is of course now also an added benefit to having a crappy record. The Mets aren't going to finish with one of the ten best records (the playoff teams). They probably aren't going to be in the 11-15 range either (contenders). Right now, they look to be in the range of 16-20, and that's the worst place to be.

Ashie62 Aug 11 2014 07:06 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Gut Mejia like a fish.... Familia will do just fine....

Edgy MD Aug 11 2014 08:46 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Gwreck wrote: Right now, they look to be in the range of 16-20, and that's the worst place to be. I feel pretty certain the worst place to be is to be the worst team in the league.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 11 2014 09:17 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Edgy MD wrote: Gwreck wrote: Right now, they look to be in the range of 16-20, and that's the worst place to be. I feel pretty certain the worst place to be is to be the worst team in the league. I believe he meant draft-wise, wisenheimer.

Edgy MD Aug 11 2014 10:08 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

I really don't mean to be wisen. I just simply have to disagree. You can't get caught up in thinking that's the goal. It's empty, Pyrrhic, and diabolically seductive. If you have to shut a player down in the present to protect his future, by all means. If you have to shut him down to weaken your team and improve your draft position, I wouldn't like to sign on with that. The team has spent plenty of years now stockpiling talent. Victory is the scarcer and more precious commodity.

Gwreck Aug 11 2014 10:52 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Edgy MD wrote: If you have to shut a player down in the present to protect his future, by all means. If you have to shut him down to weaken your team and improve your draft position, I wouldn't like to sign on with that. Except shutting down Mejia to have necessary hernia surgery accomplishes both goals. It's not a binary situation. I would guess that shutting him down is more about protecting his health than weakening the team (after all, he's only the closer) but if it has the additional benefit of weakening the team with respect to next year's draft position, so be it. The team has spent plenty of years now stockpiling talent. Victory is the scarcer and more precious commodity. It's August 11 and the Mets are still 6 games under .500. They're not going to make the playoffs in 2014. If they finish with one of the ten worst records this year, they won't lose their first round draft pick when they sign free agent pitchers Max Scherzer or Jon Lester to boost next year's rotation.

Edgy MD Aug 11 2014 11:28 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Gwreck wrote: Except shutting down Mejia to have necessary hernia surgery accomplishes both goals. I don't think it's an established fact at all that it accomplishes the first goal. I think the Mets would jump on it if was that clear. I don't think the second goal is much of a goal at all. Gwreck wrote: They're not going to make the playoffs in 2014. I don't think this is anything like an established fact either. The team is seven and a half off the division and six off the wild card. They'd be a game closer in both if they made any number of subtle decisions just a little bit better on Sunday afternoon. It's unlikey, sure, but unlikelier things happen every season. The Pirates were within reach, a game and half in front of the Mets, two weeks ago. Now they're now the wild card leader.

Frayed Knot Aug 12 2014 06:09 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Or they could make their medical decisions based on, y'know, what the medical people think rather than on where the team currently sits in the standings.

Edgy MD Aug 12 2014 06:10 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

It's really as simple as that, yeah.

Ceetar Aug 12 2014 11:45 AM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Frayed Knot wrote: Or they could make their medical decisions based on, y'know, what the medical people think rather than on where the team currently sits in the standings. but then what would be complain about?

Frayed Knot Aug 12 2014 12:04 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Ceetar wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Or they could make their medical decisions based on, y'know, what the medical people think rather than on where the team currently sits in the standings. but then what would be complain about? That they, who got their medical knowledge via watching reruns of 'House' and/or 'Gray's Anatomy', know better than the actual doctors who, y'know, examined the actual patient.

Ceetar Aug 12 2014 12:37 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Frayed Knot wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Or they could make their medical decisions based on, y'know, what the medical people think rather than on where the team currently sits in the standings. but then what would be complain about? That they, who got their medical knowledge via watching reruns of 'House' and/or 'Gray's Anatomy', know better than the actual doctors who, y'know, examined the actual patient. come now, I watch Gray's Anatomy 'live', not reruns.

Edgy MD Sep 20 2014 09:09 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Quad strain for Dilbert. Gonna guess we've seen the last of him on a field. Forces are aligning to get Satin back into a lineup or two before the season is over.

Frayed Knot Sep 20 2014 09:15 PM Re: Injuries and Recoveries in 2014

Wright - Gone Eveland - Gone Black - Gone Herrera - Gone Lagares - Gone (at least until the final home stand) Kind of odd to lose that many players just in September. I think we're the only team with a thinner bullpen in September than in the five months leading up to it.