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Alex Rodriguez 2014

d'Kong76 Jan 11 2014 09:57 AM

Out for season, gets 162 game suspension.

Frayed Knot Jan 11 2014 10:04 AM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

He pledged to appeal anything over about 100 games or so, and there were stories about how he kept changing legal teams if he wasn't getting the answers he wanted from the previous team - like from guys who were telling him to negotiate for a lesser sentence rather than leave it up to the arbitrator. So it sounds like it's only a matter of time until the lawsuits start flying.

Frayed Knot Jan 11 2014 10:12 AM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

“The number of games sadly comes as no surprise, as the deck has been stacked against me from day one,” Rodriguez said in a statement. “This is one man’s decision, that was not put before a fair and impartial jury, does not involve me having failed a single drug test, is at odds with the facts and is inconsistent with the terms of the Joint Drug Agreement and the Basic Agreement, and relies on testimony and documents that would never have been allowed in any court in the United States because they are false and wholly unreliable. This injustice is MLB’s first step toward abolishing guaranteed contracts in the 2016 bargaining round, instituting lifetime bans for single violations of drug policy, and further insulating its corrupt investigative program from any variety defense by accused players, or any variety of objective review.” Wow! The only thing I can figure he leaves out here is the implication that a grassy knoll was somehow involved.

d'Kong76 Jan 11 2014 10:44 AM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

[fimg=500:1i7xer95]https://si0.twimg.com/profile_background_images/152121055/DUHPOPE.jpg[/fimg:1i7xer95] "I do not bless this decision one bit!"

bmfc1 Jan 11 2014 11:36 AM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

Congratulations to the MFYs which had the benefit of a PED-using Rodriguez and now don't have to pay him (and clear cap space) while he's less effective.

Lefty Specialist Jan 11 2014 11:54 AM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

Hal Steinbrenner, come on down, you just won 25 million dollars.

Frayed Knot Jan 11 2014 01:19 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

Sure, but they still have to replace him in the lineup and at 3B this season. And as much as he's sukked lately as compared to his contract, a faded copy of ARod still projects to give them more than would most replacements. That's a lot of HRs gone without both his bat and Cano's. Looked at another way, they just had to pay him full freight for an injured season in which he got only 150 ABs, and now will be without him for a year in which he's (presumably) healthy. They also still owe him various bonuses -- they just had to pay him some $3 mil this week for stuff unrelated to salary. And of course they still own him and owe him for three seasons beyond this coming one to the tune of some $61 million (again, plus some bonuses) at which point they'll have an even older and rustier version of him, one that will have sat for the better part of two seasons. Where this helps Hal and his accountants is with the luxury tax. If they can sneak under that $189 figure this year it "re-sets" the penalty figure. The Yanx have been over the lux-tax figure for so many years now that they've long been taxed at the 50% level for every dollar they're above. But getting under the cap, even for just one season, re-sets your status so that even if they were to go on another huge spending spree and go back over the limit for 2015 they would only be taxed at the first-offender rate which I believe is more like 15%. That's why they've been so anxious to get under the goal this year because doing so will pay them back (or at least not cost them as much) down the road.

MFS62 Jan 11 2014 05:30 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

He'll probably take it to Federal Court. And, since he never FAILED a drug test, I think he'll win. And when the evidence comes out that MLB bought their "proof", I think anything that followed will be declared "fruit of a poisoned tree"* and the case will be dismissed. Its not against the law to lie to your boss. Later * = cases get thrown out when the charge is based on illegally obtained evidence.

Frayed Knot Jan 11 2014 05:41 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

He'll probably take it to Federal Court. --- He's certainly threatened to do just that And, since he never FAILED a drug test, I think he'll win. --- Highly doubtful from what I've heard. His problem is that this is a binding arbitration process agreed to by both his employer AND his union. The legal eagles who have commented on this topic say that the burden of proof falls on ARod and his team to not just show that the decision is wrong but that the arbiter conducted bad law by reaching it. IOW not only does the decision have to be wrong but the process he used to get there needs to be too. And when the evidence comes out that MLB bought their "proof", I think anything that followed will be declared "fruit of a poisoned tree"* and the case will be dismissed. Its not against the law to lie to your boss. --- Remember that this isn't a court of law, it's an employment ruling. That, and the answer to Part 2 above, represents a HUGE roadblock for him. Also consider that MLB chose to come down with an increased penalty because, they claim, he got caught plus a whole lot more, and an independent arbiter agreed (most of the way anyway).

MFS62 Jan 11 2014 05:44 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

I can hardly wait to see how this plays out. Later

Edgy MD Jan 11 2014 07:46 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

Frayed Knot wrote: They also still owe him various bonuses -- they just had to pay him some $3 mil this week for stuff unrelated to salary. He swept out Hank's garage last weekend.

smg58 Jan 11 2014 08:02 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

I think any thread titled "Alex Rodriguez 2014" should be put in the non-baseball forum.

metsmarathon Jan 11 2014 08:19 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

smg58 wrote: I think any thread titled "Alex Rodriguez 2014" should be put in the non-baseball forum. Bam! I still think its utter bullshit for him to get a day over 50. Did any player who was on that 2003 list ever subsequently test positive a second time? If so, would not that player only face 50 games? Why so much more for alex. If obstructing investigation was a factor, why did memo only get 50? Just about any way youslice it, the punishent is arbitrary, and should be in full violation of the CBA

Edgy MD Jan 11 2014 08:36 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

Sorry, who is Memo?

metirish Jan 11 2014 08:59 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

Interesting article here from Rosenthal about possible future labor strife http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/alex ... itz-011114

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 11 2014 08:59 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

She's the one who made Roy slump, if I recall correctly.

Frayed Knot Jan 12 2014 08:17 AM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

metsmarathon wrote: I still think its utter bullshit for him to get a day over 50. Did any player who was on that 2003 list ever subsequently test positive a second time? If so, would not that player only face 50 games? Why so much more for alex. If obstructing investigation was a factor, why did memo only get 50? Just about any way youslice it, the punishent is arbitrary, and should be in full violation of the CBA That's the thing though, MLB obviously thought they had a good chance to get more or they wouldn't have shot for the outrageous 211 games. I said all along that the worst thing Selig could do was get shot down over this and that any final decision short of say 100 games would have seemed like a victory for ARod's side. Plus there were numerous stories about Rodriguez's legal teams and elements of the union begging him to open talks with MLB with a view towards settling for something in between 50 & 211. And then ultimately the independent arbiter sided much closer to MLB's side then the penalty as written for supposed first-time offenders, so whatever evidence MLB has that adds up in their minds to warrant more than triple the proscribed punishment it must be pretty good. 60 MINUTES is running a piece on this tonight; maybe more info will come out then. btw, it seems that because the penalty is for 162 games rather than 183 days (the legal length of a full baseball season) the Yanx still need to pay ARod a relatively small portion (somewhat over $3 million) of his 2014 salary, an amount which will count against the salary cap figure.

Ceetar Jan 12 2014 08:45 AM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

The Yankees also save a bit of HR milestone markers. (guess that's only $30 total, and unlikely he hits the last markers now) Alex isn't going to quietly disappear this season, even if the suspension is as stands. I am surprised they didn't reduce it a little, beyond the time he played while appealing though. He's sounding a little like Canseco did when insisting steroids were rampant about the contract guarantees for future CBAs but that might have been the players association sticking in a first volley too. Wonder if ESPN is thinking of hiring A-Rod for the season, that'd be kind of amusing.

smg58 Jan 12 2014 09:17 AM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

A-Rod should have figured out that the one thing benefiting him to this point in the court of public opinion is that the full details of the league's case against him have not been made public yet, and the best way to keep that from happening would be to quietly walk away. The league obviously felt that the evidence against A-Rod corresponded to 2+ violations, and ultimately the arbiter agreed with that.

Ashie62 Jan 12 2014 10:42 AM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

Tony Bosch on 60 minutes tonight with texts and claiming he himself injected Arod.

Nymr83 Jan 12 2014 10:54 AM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

Ashie62 wrote: Tony Bosch on 60 minutes tonight with texts and claiming he himself injected Arod. Admitting to additional crimes on National TV, brilliant! Bosch deserves a long jail sentence, the real crime here is that the feds are giving him any kind of pass for cooperating with MLB. If he wants to talk to MLB or even sell them information thats fine, but it shouldnt lessen or delay his criminal punishment.

d'Kong76 Jan 13 2014 11:30 AM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

In case you missed the 60 Minutes piece ... http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-case-of-alex-rodriguez/

Frayed Knot Jan 13 2014 12:00 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

Nymr83 wrote: Bosch deserves a long jail sentence, the real crime here is that the feds are giving him any kind of pass for cooperating with MLB. If he wants to talk to MLB or even sell them information thats fine, but it shouldnt lessen or delay his criminal punishment. That's what disturbed me in the BALCO case too, that the prosecutors seemed more interested in finding the end users than they were in Victor Conte. One generally sees law enforcement trying to use the addicts in order to flip the dealer, not the other way around the way they did with the BALCO case. But of course MLB isn't a law enforcement entity, they are only interested in their little corner of the world and all this, remember, came not out of a criminal investigation but rather a small local newspaper so I'm not really sure what law enforcement's attitude has been toward all this.

Nymr83 Jan 13 2014 10:22 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

Frayed Knot wrote: Nymr83 wrote: Bosch deserves a long jail sentence, the real crime here is that the feds are giving him any kind of pass for cooperating with MLB. If he wants to talk to MLB or even sell them information thats fine, but it shouldnt lessen or delay his criminal punishment. That's what disturbed me in the BALCO case too, that the prosecutors seemed more interested in finding the end users than they were in Victor Conte. One generally sees law enforcement trying to use the addicts in order to flip the dealer, not the other way around the way they did with the BALCO case. But of course MLB isn't a law enforcement entity, they are only interested in their little corner of the world and all this, remember, came not out of a criminal investigation but rather a small local newspaper so I'm not really sure what law enforcement's attitude has been toward all this. Given the things that Bosch has admitted to their attitude should be "lets see how long can we put him away for"

Edgy MD Jan 13 2014 10:25 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

Nobody gets immunity unless/until they give up Jeter.

metirish Jan 14 2014 06:38 AM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

Can't root for anyone here, it's so fucking sordid, full of low life types....and that's just A-Rods legal team.....seriously, his lawyer?

Edgy MD Jan 21 2014 08:16 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

The Yankees should be fine. Isn't this just the sort of situation they signed Drew Henson for?

Mets – Willets Point Jan 22 2014 09:58 AM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

The $22,131,148 the Yankees saved on A-Rod is will be diverted to the $22,142,857 being spent on Tanaka's AAV. We need an independent investigation into the shennigans between MLB and the Yankees.

smg58 Jan 22 2014 11:43 AM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

Mets – Willets Point wrote: The $22,131,148 the Yankees saved on A-Rod is will be diverted to the $22,142,857 being spent on Tanaka's AAV. The Yankees are giving Tanaka an anti-aircraft vehicle? The North Koreans must be a bigger threat than we thought.

MFS62 Jan 22 2014 09:38 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

smg58 wrote: Mets – Willets Point wrote: The $22,131,148 the Yankees saved on A-Rod is will be diverted to the $22,142,857 being spent on Tanaka's AAV. The Yankees are giving Tanaka an anti-aircraft vehicle? The North Koreans must be a bigger threat than we thought. I believe that in A-Rod's case , it stood for "antisocial asshole value". Later

Frayed Knot Feb 07 2014 03:03 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

Rodriguez withdraws his lawsuits vs Selig, MLB & the Players Assoc. Looks like he's resigned to accepting the terms of the suspension.

Ashie62 Feb 07 2014 03:58 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

case closed

d'Kong76 Feb 07 2014 04:51 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

Frayed Knot wrote: Rodriguez withdraws his lawsuits vs Selig, MLB & the Players Assoc. Looks like he's resigned to accepting the terms of the suspension. His lawyers are crying in their double martinis.

Frayed Knot Feb 07 2014 04:54 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

Reportedly he kept firing lawyers and hiring new ones when he wasn't getting the answers he was looking for--the answers presumably being: 'Oh you are so right Alex, everyone IS against you'--so the lawyers that aren't crying in their double martinis over this are probably laughing at him right about now.

d'Kong76 Feb 07 2014 05:00 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

Good! They can laugh with us! Double martinis for everyone!

Nymr83 Feb 07 2014 07:01 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

The evidence that would have been made public by MLB is likely what scared Arod off, though litigation costs might have helped too. I'm glad the Yankees will still be on the hook for him NEXT year when he'll be 40 years old and 18 months removed from his last major league at-bat.

Frayed Knot Feb 07 2014 08:05 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

Nymr83 wrote: ... I'm glad the Yankees will still be on the hook for him NEXT year when he'll be 40 years old and 18 months removed from his last major league at-bat. And on the hook for the season after next ... and the one after THAT.

Ceetar Feb 07 2014 08:30 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

Frayed Knot wrote: Nymr83 wrote: ... I'm glad the Yankees will still be on the hook for him NEXT year when he'll be 40 years old and 18 months removed from his last major league at-bat. And on the hook for the season after next ... and the one after THAT. Fair enough, but on the other hand I think not having Alex might be what keeps the Yankees out of the playoffs this year.

Edgy MD Feb 07 2014 09:33 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

Selig may have exactly zero fans, but he's got a chance to retire on a long winning streak. (Assuming that expanded replay action and home-plate-collision reform don't turn into disasters.)

Edgy MD Feb 12 2014 07:51 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

Alex Rodriguez: 2014 write-in All-Star candidate.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 12 2014 10:44 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

Oh, that's out-fucking-standing.

Edgy MD Feb 13 2014 08:10 AM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

I hate myself for thinking it.

Frayed Knot Feb 16 2014 02:06 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

"If only Aaron Boone had done his cardio" Ten years ago today Alex Rodriguez was dealt from the Rangers to the Yanx (along with bags full of cash) in exchange for Alfonso Soriano and Joquin Arias. Joel Sherman looks back at the deal and how many ways things could have wound up differently, including the part where the Rangers would have had a double play duo of Rabinson Cano & Jose Reyes.

d'Kong76 Feb 16 2014 02:31 PM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

Sureman, Jolie wrote: “He had his eyes on the Mets,” Orza said. “He was going to opt out depending on the situation if he could get to the Mets. It just never goes away.

Nymr83 Feb 17 2014 09:16 AM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

For all Arod has done wrong it is worth remembering that he wanted to WIN and was willing to give up over 30 million dollars to get to a better team. He was also willing to switch positions for the good of the club. Did saint jeter ever do those things?

Ceetar Feb 17 2014 09:21 AM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

Nymr83 wrote: For all Arod has done wrong it is worth remembering that he wanted to WIN and was willing to give up over 30 million dollars to get to a better team. He was also willing to switch positions for the good of the club. Did saint jeter ever do those things? Jeter's ancient and clearly not the best player on his team even now and yet is adamant about his position in the batting order.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 06 2014 09:18 AM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

I'm only vaguely aware of who Chelsea Handler is, and I think she's being more rude than is necessary (even to Alex Rodriguez!) but this was a bit amusing nonetheless: N.Y. Daily News wrote: Alex Rodriguez may have a big fan in a certain WFAN radio host, but when it comes to talk show host and comedian Chelsea Handler, it’s a different story. Handler, a guest on Wednesday’s Howard Stern show told the King of All Media that A-Rod recently approached her, asking, “Chelsea, why do you have to make fun of me all the time?" to which Handler responded, “Get away from me you're disgusting.” She said she followed that up with “You're gross," to which A-Rod responded, “Why am I gross? We got off on the wrong foot. I read all of your books. I'm a big fan.” Handler then said, “I go, 'I don't know why you're a big fan. I think you're a f---ing a--hole.” When asked by Stern why she feels this way, Handler said, “Just the way he conducts himself.” She also called Rodriguez a “buffoon,” before hammering the point home by saying, “He just sleeps around ... He is a pile of s---.” It's safe to say Mike Francesa and Handler will agree to disagree.

Edgy MD Mar 06 2014 09:26 AM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

A conversation between Howard Stern and Chelsea Handler on appropriate self-conduct. America, in a nutshell.

Frayed Knot Nov 05 2014 10:58 AM Re: Alex Rodriguez 2014

"Yankees slugger Alex Rodriguez confirmed in government testimony he took Biogenesis-supplied performance-enhancing drugs over a period from 2010 to 2012, according to a report in the Miami Herald." So wait, this means that all that screaming on Francesa's show last year wasn't truthful? I feel so used.